What real lynching looks like..

[JakeStarkey]

Your all Democrats you're all racist nothing is changed and Democrat Party. the difference now being they have white racist and black racist in their party

You are a loon. You will not be allowed to revise history here without having it shoved up your a**.

You can't even prove your history you f****** moron

It has been over and over. Conservative reactionaries killed blacks in the South to main white supremacy. Conservative reactionaries nationally still resent and resist minority equality.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Thanatos, do you deny Conservative reactionaries killed blacks in the South to main white supremacy. Conservative reactionaries nationally still resent and resist minority equality?

If you do, then you have no cred with normal everyday Americans of all parties who know their history.

 

[Esmeralda]

Lynch mobs denied people justice and denied people their very lives.

To get very over simplified, lynch mobs = very bad.

But I believe we all already knew this.

So, what point is served by making sure we hear it again?

Are there a LOT of lynchings going on today?

And one we can name is George Zimmerman.

Thank you for making Sallow's point so clear for him.

Yes indeed, so she did. Sallow's point is that people today are now throwing the word lynching around carelessly. That they do indicates they don't realize the impact such behavior had on our culture and what a horrifying act it is. One thing about history that we should all remember is expressed in the quotation by George Santayana: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

It isn't as if Sallow doesn't realize most people here know about the lynchings that took place in the past in America, though many may not be so aware that women were lynched as well as men: I'm sure he knews you all know about lynching. However, one thing be aware of is that young people should be educated to be aware of that part of America's history as well as other parts of our history. For example, German and Austrian students learn about Holocaust so their future generations never do that kind of thing or go in that direction again. I think it is important for Americans to remember and be in touch with their racist past so they don't do those kinds of things again. To treat the subject lightly, for example comparing a real lynching to what has happened to Zimmerman, is regressive.

 

[Pogo]

shattered John F Kennedy and Lyndon B Johnson both voted down civil rights. it wasn't until Lyndon B Johnson had no other choice but the sign it into law. of course he said it was to get those n****** voting Democrat

Another bogus quote.

You're really not worth my time to explain this but the fact is, there are political marriages of convenience undertaken by those in search of power between factions that have little in common. Such a framework was the Democratic Party in the South, in contrast to the Democratic Party everywhere else, prior to the 1960s. For historical reasons the South was effectively dominated by one party, so if you wanted to be elected dogcatcher you had to be a Democrat; it was simply part of Southern Culture. I know this firsthand as I'm related to a lot of them.

When the national base of the party called for equal rights as befits Liberalism (notably at the 1948 convention), they were met with strong opposition from this Southern faction, who while Democrats in name, were never Liberals. So strong was this opposition that they literally walked out of the convention and ran their own presidential candidate, Strom Thurmond (a relative of mine). This is what Trent Lott was referring to in his famous gaffe at Uncle Strom's birthday party.

In '64 when LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act, he noted "We (meaning the Democratic Party) have lost the South for a generation" (a term he understated). If there's any doubt as to what these dynamics were, the Congressional vote in that Act demonstrated that the schism between North and South was far more influential than that between Republican and Democrat:

The original House version:

Southern Democrats: 7 yes, 87 no (7–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)

Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)​

The Senate version:

Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%)
Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%)
Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%)​

("Southern" defined as the 11 states of the former Confederacy)

With this dramatic stroke, the Republican Party saw the opportunity to make the inroads it had not been able to make for decades, articulated here by Kevin Phillips:

>> From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that...but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats. << (full story here)

And so it was; Thurmond turned Republican, to be followed by Jesse Helms, Trent Lott, Richard Shelby, and a cast of thousands of former "Democrats", to the point where the South was still a one-party culture, but with a new name. Again, the name of the party was the variable, the conservative lifeblood was the constant. Same people, new party.

That doesn't mean "Republicans are racist" any more than it meant "Democrats were racist". But it does mean there's a bloc of racists who will side with any party that gives them the power they want.

This is not new. It's history. Nor was it the first massive party switch, many of those Southern Democrats of the first half of the 20th century having switched from being Republicans in the 19th.

To ignore this history puts you squarely in the swamp that simplistic label-think like "party A represents X and always did" gets you into.

 

[JakeStarkey]

For decades in W Flordia, and Louisiana, and East Texas our Republican family had to contest the overwhelming number of racist black hating whites that left the Democrats to become GOP. They felt betrayed by Johnson and the Democrats who passed the Civil Rights and Voting Acts.

Very few engaged in active violence after changing parties, but they remained buttholes and their children did too. However, the third generation and now their children are saying "whoa" and wiping the family buttholes clean.

The bad old racists will all be 99% gone within 15 years.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Throwing the "word" around too carelessly for the politically correct sensibilities of the left?

The irresponsible and careless use of such terms is objectionable whenever the OTHER side engages in that verbal behavior, apparently.

a lynching is an extrajudicial murder by a mob, whether or not the weapon of choice is a rope.

-- according to one commentator. Sherrod Critic: She Used &#8216;Lynching&#8217; To Gin Up Democratic Voters | TPMDC

BUT, let's be real. The word "lynch" has ALSO been used as a metaphor for almost any extrajudicial mob action, not even limited anymore to just acts of violence.

When Justice Thomas was getting maligned viciously by scumbags like Sen. Teddy "glub glub" Kennedy during the Thomas confirmation hearings, the future Associate Justice suggested that he was being subjected to a high tech lynching. He clearly was NOT claiming actual mob murder, rope or not. He was not even suggesting actual violence. It was a metaphor.

And the left does NOT get to dictate when a metaphor can be properly used.

 

[Sallow]

who exodus of the Democrat Party because you guys still had KKK Byrd.... name them you lying f***

Seriously..you really need to research this.

You don't have a clue what you are talking about.

In other words you can't name them

Storm Thurmond.

That help?

 

[Esmeralda]

Throwing the "word" around too carelessly for the politically correct sensibilities of the left?

The irresponsible and careless use of such terms is objectionable whenever the OTHER side engages in that verbal behavior, apparently.

a lynching is an extrajudicial murder by a mob, whether or not the weapon of choice is a rope.

-- according to one commentator. Sherrod Critic: She Used ‘Lynching’ To Gin Up Democratic Voters | TPMDC

BUT, let's be real. The word "lynch" has ALSO been used as a metaphor for almost any extrajudicial mob action, not even limited anymore to just acts of violence.

When Justice Thomas was getting maligned viciously by scumbags like Sen. Teddy "glub glub" Kennedy during the Thomas confirmation hearings, the future Associate Justice suggested that he was being subjected to a high tech lynching. He clearly was NOT claiming actual mob murder, rope or not. He was not even suggesting actual violence. It was a metaphor.And the left does NOT get to dictate when a metaphor can be properly used.

Yes, but clearly he used that specific metaphor for a reason as lynching in American history is clearly linked to black men in America. Also, he qualified it with the term 'high tech.'

Essentially, he wasn't throwing the term around carelessly: he was using it in a very specific and pointed way as a very salient metaphor.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Seriously..you really need to research this.

You don't have a clue what you are talking about.

In other words you can't name them

Storm Thurmond.

That help?

Jesse Helms, Trent Lott, Richard Shelby, and a cast of thousands of former "Democrats",

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Throwing the "word" around too carelessly for the politically correct sensibilities of the left?

The irresponsible and careless use of such terms is objectionable whenever the OTHER side engages in that verbal behavior, apparently.

a lynching is an extrajudicial murder by a mob, whether or not the weapon of choice is a rope.

-- according to one commentator. Sherrod Critic: She Used ‘Lynching’ To Gin Up Democratic Voters | TPMDC

BUT, let's be real. The word "lynch" has ALSO been used as a metaphor for almost any extrajudicial mob action, not even limited anymore to just acts of violence.

When Justice Thomas was getting maligned viciously by scumbags like Sen. Teddy "glub glub" Kennedy during the Thomas confirmation hearings, the future Associate Justice suggested that he was being subjected to a high tech lynching. He clearly was NOT claiming actual mob murder, rope or not. He was not even suggesting actual violence. It was a metaphor.And the left does NOT get to dictate when a metaphor can be properly used.

Yes, but clearly he used that specific metaphor for a reason as lynching in American history is clearly linked to black men in America. Also, he qualified it with the term 'high tech.'

Essentially, he wasn't throwing the term around carelessly: he was using it in a very specific and pointed way as a very salient metaphor.

"[A] very specific and pointed way as a very salient metaphor" protesting the racism of the scumbags like Teddy "glub glub" Kennedy.

But still, a metaphor it was.

And it is a metaphor that can be used despite the protests of the leftists who think they get to dictate what 'turns of phrase' others may use.

Last night the Padres murdered the Yankees.

Yeah. Just a metaphor. Nobody actually died. But the 7 - 2 score was (metaphorically) a shellacking. That too is just a metaphor.

 

[Stephanie]

Not hateful at all.

And I didn't become a cop..because in the end when I asked myself if I could shoot someone? I couldn't. That really wouldn't work out.

On the other hand..you've posted stuff that puts on display that if lynching were still legal, you'd be at walmart purchasing books on knots and ropes.

I'll bet you could if you we're having your head pounded against a concrete sidewalk

No?

Guess we will never actually know.

This thread is about Lynching.

Keep up.

which is what you liberals are doing with Zimmerman...Just because it's with the blessing of the race baiters like Sharpton, Jackson and Obama you feel you are acting for JUSTICE...he was found NOT GUITY in a court of OUR LAWS....but this witch hunt by you who are in plain clothes today, not sheets with your face covered has been no different than wanting him hanging him from a tree..YOU all should be damn proud of yourselves..you've become a modern day version of the KKK

 

[Pogo]

In other words you can't name them

Storm Thurmond.

That help?

Jesse Helms, Trent Lott, Richard Shelby, and a cast of thousands of former "Democrats",

Case study: Charles Pickering (fmr. federal judge) - switched from Dem to Rep in 1964:


>> Active in the early 1960s in the Democratic Party, Pickering switched affiliation in 1964 to the Mississippi Republican Party. He said at the time that "the people of [Mississippi] were heaped with humiliation and embarrassment at the Democratic Convention" in Atlantic City, New Jersey, after the national party seated two civil rights activists from the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party with the all-white delegation that Pickering had supported. Along with other disaffected Democrats, Pickering played a key role in building the Republican Party in Mississippi in the ensuing years. << (Wiki, with reference)

Pickering was nominated to the 5th Circuit by George W. Bush (twice) and opposed by Democrats partially on racial history.

Case study: Albert Watson (switched from Dem to Rep in 1965)

>> In 1962, Watson first ran for South Carolina's 2nd congressional district seat. Five-term incumbent John J. Riley had died in office in 1962, and his wife Corinne Boyd Riley, had served out the remainder of her husband's term.[2] Watson secured the Democratic nomination and then faced Floyd Spence, a fellow state representative from neighboring Lexington County who had turned Republican a few months earlier. The ensuing general election was far closer than expected, with Watson winning by only five percentage points, with crucial support from his mentor, U.S. Senator Strom Thurmond. In 1964, Watson was reelected without opposition. However, the House Democratic Caucus stripped Watson, along with Congressman John Bell Williams of Mississippi, of his seniority for supporting Barry Goldwater. Watson then resigned from Congress on February 1, 1965, and sought his former position as a Republican in a special election held on June 15, 1965. Watson won the special election with 69 percent of the vote to become the first Republican to represent South Carolina in the House since 1896, and the first to win an undisputed House election in the state since Reconstruction. He was comfortably reelected in 1966 and 1968. Watson's opposition to civil rights legislation exceeded that of most other Southern Republicans, but was normal for Southern Democrats. << (Wiki)

 

[Yurt]

Throwing the "word" around too carelessly for the politically correct sensibilities of the left?

The irresponsible and careless use of such terms is objectionable whenever the OTHER side engages in that verbal behavior, apparently.

a lynching is an extrajudicial murder by a mob, whether or not the weapon of choice is a rope.

-- according to one commentator. Sherrod Critic: She Used ‘Lynching’ To Gin Up Democratic Voters | TPMDC

BUT, let's be real. The word "lynch" has ALSO been used as a metaphor for almost any extrajudicial mob action, not even limited anymore to just acts of violence.

When Justice Thomas was getting maligned viciously by scumbags like Sen. Teddy "glub glub" Kennedy during the Thomas confirmation hearings, the future Associate Justice suggested that he was being subjected to a high tech lynching. He clearly was NOT claiming actual mob murder, rope or not. He was not even suggesting actual violence. It was a metaphor.And the left does NOT get to dictate when a metaphor can be properly used.

Yes, but clearly he used that specific metaphor for a reason as lynching in American history is clearly linked to black men in America. Also, he qualified it with the term 'high tech.'

Essentially, he wasn't throwing the term around carelessly: he was using it in a very specific and pointed way as a very salient metaphor.

note the two liberals who thanked this post

 

[Ringel05]

Throwing the "word" around too carelessly for the politically correct sensibilities of the left?

The irresponsible and careless use of such terms is objectionable whenever the OTHER side engages in that verbal behavior, apparently.

a lynching is an extrajudicial murder by a mob, whether or not the weapon of choice is a rope.

-- according to one commentator. Sherrod Critic: She Used ‘Lynching’ To Gin Up Democratic Voters | TPMDC

BUT, let's be real. The word "lynch" has ALSO been used as a metaphor for almost any extrajudicial mob action, not even limited anymore to just acts of violence.

When Justice Thomas was getting maligned viciously by scumbags like Sen. Teddy "glub glub" Kennedy during the Thomas confirmation hearings, the future Associate Justice suggested that he was being subjected to a high tech lynching. He clearly was NOT claiming actual mob murder, rope or not. He was not even suggesting actual violence. It was a metaphor.And the left does NOT get to dictate when a metaphor can be properly used.

Yes, but clearly he used that specific metaphor for a reason as lynching in American history is clearly linked to black men in America. Also, he qualified it with the term 'high tech.'

Essentially, he wasn't throwing the term around carelessly: he was using it in a very specific and pointed way as a very salient metaphor.

The modern idea (historical context) of lynching is almost always associated with blacks and slavery but that is only one aspect mostly associated with the late 19th and early 20th century. The largest mass lynching occurred in Louisiana in 1891 when 11 Italian immigrants were hanged, in the west most of those lynched were white. The term "lynching" is also associated with extra-judicial shooting and burning at the stake hence has been around longer than most people associate so no it is not clearly linked to black men in America except by those who don't have a complete historical perspective...... Or an agenda........

 

[Sunshine]

Throwing the "word" around too carelessly for the politically correct sensibilities of the left?

The irresponsible and careless use of such terms is objectionable whenever the OTHER side engages in that verbal behavior, apparently.

-- according to one commentator. Sherrod Critic: She Used &#8216;Lynching&#8217; To Gin Up Democratic Voters | TPMDC

BUT, let's be real. The word "lynch" has ALSO been used as a metaphor for almost any extrajudicial mob action, not even limited anymore to just acts of violence.

When Justice Thomas was getting maligned viciously by scumbags like Sen. Teddy "glub glub" Kennedy during the Thomas confirmation hearings, the future Associate Justice suggested that he was being subjected to a high tech lynching. He clearly was NOT claiming actual mob murder, rope or not. He was not even suggesting actual violence. It was a metaphor.And the left does NOT get to dictate when a metaphor can be properly used.

Yes, but clearly he used that specific metaphor for a reason as lynching in American history is clearly linked to black men in America. Also, he qualified it with the term 'high tech.'

Essentially, he wasn't throwing the term around carelessly: he was using it in a very specific and pointed way as a very salient metaphor.

The modern idea (historical context) of lynching is almost always associated with blacks and slavery but that is only one aspect mostly associated with the late 19th and early 20th century. The largest mass lynching occurred in Louisiana in 1891 when 11 Italian immigrants were hanged, in the west most of those lynched were white. The term "lynching" is also associated with extra-judicial shooting and burning at the stake hence has been around longer than most people associate so no it is not clearly linked to black men in America except by those who don't have a complete historical perspective...... Or an agenda........

The lynching of whites was common in the 'old west.' You don't hear about it because whites have the ability to move and have not cabbaged onto those lynchings for political gain.

 

[Sallow]

Yes, but clearly he used that specific metaphor for a reason as lynching in American history is clearly linked to black men in America. Also, he qualified it with the term 'high tech.'

Essentially, he wasn't throwing the term around carelessly: he was using it in a very specific and pointed way as a very salient metaphor.

The modern idea (historical context) of lynching is almost always associated with blacks and slavery but that is only one aspect mostly associated with the late 19th and early 20th century. The largest mass lynching occurred in Louisiana in 1891 when 11 Italian immigrants were hanged, in the west most of those lynched were white. The term "lynching" is also associated with extra-judicial shooting and burning at the stake hence has been around longer than most people associate so no it is not clearly linked to black men in America except by those who don't have a complete historical perspective...... Or an agenda........

The lynching of whites was common in the 'old west.' You don't hear about it because whites have the ability to move and have not cabbaged onto those lynchings for political gain.

Actually..that's not it.

Whites consider that the "good ol days" and want to return to it.

 

[Ernie S.]

Throwing the "word" around too carelessly for the politically correct sensibilities of the left?

The irresponsible and careless use of such terms is objectionable whenever the OTHER side engages in that verbal behavior, apparently.

a lynching is an extrajudicial murder by a mob, whether or not the weapon of choice is a rope.

-- according to one commentator. Sherrod Critic: She Used ‘Lynching’ To Gin Up Democratic Voters | TPMDC

BUT, let's be real. The word "lynch" has ALSO been used as a metaphor for almost any extrajudicial mob action, not even limited anymore to just acts of violence.

When Justice Thomas was getting maligned viciously by scumbags like Sen. Teddy "glub glub" Kennedy during the Thomas confirmation hearings, the future Associate Justice suggested that he was being subjected to a high tech lynching. He clearly was NOT claiming actual mob murder, rope or not. He was not even suggesting actual violence. It was a metaphor.And the left does NOT get to dictate when a metaphor can be properly used.

Yes, but clearly he used that specific metaphor for a reason as lynching in American history is clearly linked to black men in America. Also, he qualified it with the term 'high tech.'

Essentially, he wasn't throwing the term around carelessly: he was using it in a very specific and pointed way as a very salient metaphor.

Lynchings between 1882 and 1968 took the lives of 3,446 blacks and 1,297 whites,
Since 1968, 300,000 blacks have died at the hand of other blacks. Get real, here!

 

[Yurt]

The modern idea (historical context) of lynching is almost always associated with blacks and slavery but that is only one aspect mostly associated with the late 19th and early 20th century. The largest mass lynching occurred in Louisiana in 1891 when 11 Italian immigrants were hanged, in the west most of those lynched were white. The term "lynching" is also associated with extra-judicial shooting and burning at the stake hence has been around longer than most people associate so no it is not clearly linked to black men in America except by those who don't have a complete historical perspective...... Or an agenda........

The lynching of whites was common in the 'old west.' You don't hear about it because whites have the ability to move and have not cabbaged onto those lynchings for political gain.

Actually..that's not it.

Whites consider that the "good ol days" and want to return to it.

many do, but not for the reasons you're dishonestly insinuating...

 

[Esmeralda]

Throwing the "word" around too carelessly for the politically correct sensibilities of the left?

The irresponsible and careless use of such terms is objectionable whenever the OTHER side engages in that verbal behavior, apparently.

-- according to one commentator. Sherrod Critic: She Used &#8216;Lynching&#8217; To Gin Up Democratic Voters | TPMDC

BUT, let's be real. The word "lynch" has ALSO been used as a metaphor for almost any extrajudicial mob action, not even limited anymore to just acts of violence.

When Justice Thomas was getting maligned viciously by scumbags like Sen. Teddy "glub glub" Kennedy during the Thomas confirmation hearings, the future Associate Justice suggested that he was being subjected to a high tech lynching. He clearly was NOT claiming actual mob murder, rope or not. He was not even suggesting actual violence. It was a metaphor.And the left does NOT get to dictate when a metaphor can be properly used.

Yes, but clearly he used that specific metaphor for a reason as lynching in American history is clearly linked to black men in America. Also, he qualified it with the term 'high tech.'

Essentially, he wasn't throwing the term around carelessly: he was using it in a very specific and pointed way as a very salient metaphor.

Lynchings between 1882 and 1968 took the lives of 3,446 blacks and 1,297 whites,
Since 1968, 300,000 blacks have died at the hand of other blacks. Get real, here!

I think the point here is that lynching in American history, though it did also take place in the old west, is associated with racism and took place mostly in the South as a way of terrorizing black people: it was, essentially, a terrorist act. It is completely irrelevant, imo, to the crime statistics of current day culture. It has to do with racism, or terrorizing a certain segment of society based on race. That is really the historical point that should not be forgotten and which is why I compared it to Germans and Austrians remaining aware of the events of the Holocaust. It isn't about the violence of that time; probably as many people were killed in the war as were killed in the camps: it is about the reason why people were killed in the Holocaust. I haven't forgotten the Old West and the violence of that period: I regularly bring it up in discussions about gun control. We should not forget history. I'm not just focusing on one area of our history.

 

[Sunshine]

Throwing the "word" around too carelessly for the politically correct sensibilities of the left?

The irresponsible and careless use of such terms is objectionable whenever the OTHER side engages in that verbal behavior, apparently.

a lynching is an extrajudicial murder by a mob, whether or not the weapon of choice is a rope.

-- according to one commentator. Sherrod Critic: She Used &#8216;Lynching&#8217; To Gin Up Democratic Voters | TPMDC

BUT, let's be real. The word "lynch" has ALSO been used as a metaphor for almost any extrajudicial mob action, not even limited anymore to just acts of violence.

When Justice Thomas was getting maligned viciously by scumbags like Sen. Teddy "glub glub" Kennedy during the Thomas confirmation hearings, the future Associate Justice suggested that he was being subjected to a high tech lynching. He clearly was NOT claiming actual mob murder, rope or not. He was not even suggesting actual violence. It was a metaphor.

And the left does NOT get to dictate when a metaphor can be properly used.

Destroying someone is tantamount to murder. I recall the Falwell v. Hustler case. I had that one in first year law school. Larry Flynt said he was trying to 'destroy' Falwell. Our prof said, 'you can get a judgment against someone for kicking your dog, but there is nothing you can do when a member of the press sets out to destroy your life.' I think I have never seen that as clearly as I have with the Zimmerman case. That was a cyber lynching.