What The Hell Does A Normal American Need An Army Assault Weapon For.....Target Practice?

Interesting enough, 26 of the infamous 'Kumbaya Circle' protesting Dems in the House were GUN OWNERS! (These are the people the DHS and Obama claim are the REAL threats to America....I would agree with him on these people.)


It isn't really that interesting......it is a common feature of gun grabbers that they want guns for themselves and their minions...but want to take they away from the serfs.........they are in congress...they will be exempt from any gun law they create...
 
Last weekend, I hung out with a friend who is a target shooter. He uses a single bolt action rifle. I asked him if an AR-15 would be a good gun to use for that. He laughed and said, "No. You can shoot things with it, but it's not a gun a target shooter would choose."


You're friend is an idiot.

More likely, your story is a fabrication.

Hmmm...your refutation seems unsupported by the remarks I see on the first pages here:
Now I know that if one has a target of any sort to shoot, what one needs is a ranged weapon. The AR-15 is a ranged firearm, so I'm sure one can shoot it at a target or in target shooting competitions.

Also, I'm not at all pretending to know anything about actual gun use. I'm relying on someone I know very well and trust very much, with things vastly more important to me than the minutia of guns and shooting. As he said, and I trust his opinion because I have to as I don't know anything about target shooting and he shoots for relaxation and fun much as I sail and cook for the same reasons, he doesn't think an AR-15 is a target shooter's weapon of choice. The content I see a the links above suggest to me he's right...That's not to say no target shooters will use an AR-15 to do so. In fact, I'd wager people do.

Note:
My meaning for "target shooter/ing" is perhaps errant. For me, it means some sort of precision shooting that's done in a competitive setting against other shooters and aiming at targets 700+ yards distant. It could well be I'm being "sloppy" with my terms. If so, and most especially if that slovenliness has misled you as to my meaning/intent, I'm sorry.
 
This idea of the NRA governing the types of weapons available in gun shops is rank bull shit! Why is it that we're the only industrialized nation in the world which feels the necessity of a ordinary citizen to go armed with a military style killing machine?
You will need an assault carbine of your own in order to defend yourself against all your neighbors when SHTF and during Armageddon because THEY all already have their own AR-15 or AK-47 or clone thereof.

The genie is out of the bottle.

The genie is not going back in.
 
This idea of the NRA governing the types of weapons available in gun shops is rank bull shit! Why is it that we're the only industrialized nation in the world which feels the necessity of a ordinary citizen to go armed with a military style killing machine?

What's wrong with target practice? The enemy is already inside the gate thanks to obama, and a hillary prezidency wlll guarantee much greater numbers coming here in the future. Be prepared or be a victim.
 
The Springfield 30-06 has a powerful kick but not as much as the Remington 7mm mag.
The M1 Garand will take your thumbnail off in a heartbeat. An AR-15, or similar rifle/carbine is very easy to shoot, which reportedly is why they are so popular.

My wife will not doubt be mightily poed but I think I can get a very reliable carbine with a red dot scope and frangible ammunition for around $750. For an old fart with bad knees and arthritis in his hands and feet, that might fit the home defense role better than anything else. I could buy a new handgun and just put it under my bed, but she'd probably notice a carbine. LOL

I asked my friend to show me the gun he had for home protection. He did and it was a .410 shot gun loaded with birdshot. OMG I said, we are not going to be attacked by a bird.

It is very unlikely you will be attacked at all.
But why would anyone voluntarily leave it to chance that they won't be victim to a home invasion?


The gun grabber leaders don't....Bloomberg has armed bodyguards, obama has armed body guards, hilary has armed body guards.......all of the gun grabbers with money have armed bodyguards...it is just you they want to disarm....
Bloomberg engaged in a series of straw purchases of self defence weapons. The Obama fascist movement glorified his illegal actions.
 
This idea of the NRA governing the types of weapons available in gun shops is rank bull shit! Why is it that we're the only industrialized nation in the world which feels the necessity of a ordinary citizen to go armed with a military style killing machine?

Gophers and prairie dogs, they can snap ur ankle like a toothpick !
 
Make perfect sense....

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Thank goodness that Chicago outlawed firearms. It certainly kept this woman very safe. Thanks to the Chicago ban she did not get shot at all. Not once. She was merely stabbed to death.

Family of Murder Victim Furious After Video of Subway Stabbing Goes Viral

Evidently you've never heard about the stupid bastard who brought a knife to a gun fight.
Evidently, you think it's funny to mock women who are brutally murdered because you advocate to disarm them and make them victims. Perhaps you want to disarm so badly because you desire to rape or otherwise attack them?

I can get good pussy where you couldn't borrow a mess of meal......make no mistake about it.
 
I can get good pussy where you couldn't borrow a mess of meal......make no mistake about it.
Now you are off topic.

Guns and pussy have nothing in common.

Your gun can keep your dick alive longer at times.

But if you want honey then you need money.

And if you want to keep your dick alive on this violent planet then you will need a carbine and a pistol and a sling strap and a holster and lots of ammo for when SHTF for you.
 
Thank goodness that Chicago outlawed firearms. It certainly kept this woman very safe. Thanks to the Chicago ban she did not get shot at all. Not once. She was merely stabbed to death.

Family of Murder Victim Furious After Video of Subway Stabbing Goes Viral


Hey......anti-gunners call that stabbing/throat slashing a win/win......the killer didn't use a gun and the woman he murdered didn't use a gun either.........it was a success for gun control all the way around.......

And so you guys know.....according to Illinois concealed carry law....you have to unload your weapon and put it in a container to take it on public transportation...so even if a concealed carry permit holder was on the train.......that woman would have been dead long before he could have accessed the weapon....

I have no problem with the 2nd amendment.......I have no problem with hand guns, shotguns, hunting rifles, etc. Anybody who thinks a normal U S citizen has any need for an automatic rifle capable of military combat has their right wing head so far up their ass that they'll never smell fresh air again. The folks who wrote the 2nd amendment had no knowledge of any weapon more advanced than a single shot musket with a 10-15 second reload time. GET REAL!!!!


Yeah....we have pretty much looked past fully automatic rifles......and would almost be willing to give up on those...but then you guys come after AR-15s, and mislabel them so you can get them banned too......
And the founders had no idea about the computer you are using....so what you are saying by your logic is that because of the damage computer crime causes...through sex trafficking, allowing terrorists to murder people by allowing them to recruit, move money and plan their attacks, and cyber bullying, and identity theft an the theft of state secrets.....you are saying that only the police and military need computers....right? According to your hair brained logic...right?

So far I haven't killed or maimed anyone with my PC!!
 
Thank goodness that Chicago outlawed firearms. It certainly kept this woman very safe. Thanks to the Chicago ban she did not get shot at all. Not once. She was merely stabbed to death.

Family of Murder Victim Furious After Video of Subway Stabbing Goes Viral


Hey......anti-gunners call that stabbing/throat slashing a win/win......the killer didn't use a gun and the woman he murdered didn't use a gun either.........it was a success for gun control all the way around.......

And so you guys know.....according to Illinois concealed carry law....you have to unload your weapon and put it in a container to take it on public transportation...so even if a concealed carry permit holder was on the train.......that woman would have been dead long before he could have accessed the weapon....

I have no problem with the 2nd amendment.......I have no problem with hand guns, shotguns, hunting rifles, etc. Anybody who thinks a normal U S citizen has any need for an automatic rifle capable of military combat has their right wing head so far up their ass that they'll never smell fresh air again. The folks who wrote the 2nd amendment had no knowledge of any weapon more advanced than a single shot musket with a 10-15 second reload time. GET REAL!!!!


Yeah....we have pretty much looked past fully automatic rifles......and would almost be willing to give up on those...but then you guys come after AR-15s, and mislabel them so you can get them banned too......
And the founders had no idea about the computer you are using....so what you are saying by your logic is that because of the damage computer crime causes...through sex trafficking, allowing terrorists to murder people by allowing them to recruit, move money and plan their attacks, and cyber bullying, and identity theft an the theft of state secrets.....you are saying that only the police and military need computers....right? According to your hair brained logic...right?

So far I haven't killed or maimed anyone with my PC!!
And so far the vast majority of gun owners haven't killed anyone with their weapons
 
Thank goodness that Chicago outlawed firearms. It certainly kept this woman very safe. Thanks to the Chicago ban she did not get shot at all. Not once. She was merely stabbed to death.

Family of Murder Victim Furious After Video of Subway Stabbing Goes Viral


Hey......anti-gunners call that stabbing/throat slashing a win/win......the killer didn't use a gun and the woman he murdered didn't use a gun either.........it was a success for gun control all the way around.......

And so you guys know.....according to Illinois concealed carry law....you have to unload your weapon and put it in a container to take it on public transportation...so even if a concealed carry permit holder was on the train.......that woman would have been dead long before he could have accessed the weapon....

I have no problem with the 2nd amendment.......I have no problem with hand guns, shotguns, hunting rifles, etc. Anybody who thinks a normal U S citizen has any need for an automatic rifle capable of military combat has their right wing head so far up their ass that they'll never smell fresh air again. The folks who wrote the 2nd amendment had no knowledge of any weapon more advanced than a single shot musket with a 10-15 second reload time. GET REAL!!!!


Yeah....we have pretty much looked past fully automatic rifles......and would almost be willing to give up on those...but then you guys come after AR-15s, and mislabel them so you can get them banned too......
And the founders had no idea about the computer you are using....so what you are saying by your logic is that because of the damage computer crime causes...through sex trafficking, allowing terrorists to murder people by allowing them to recruit, move money and plan their attacks, and cyber bullying, and identity theft an the theft of state secrets.....you are saying that only the police and military need computers....right? According to your hair brained logic...right?

So far I haven't killed or maimed anyone with my PC!!


Terrorists do it.....sex traffickers do it.......computers harm as many people as guns do......so we need background checks to stop them...right?
 
Thank goodness that Chicago outlawed firearms. It certainly kept this woman very safe. Thanks to the Chicago ban she did not get shot at all. Not once. She was merely stabbed to death.

Family of Murder Victim Furious After Video of Subway Stabbing Goes Viral


Hey......anti-gunners call that stabbing/throat slashing a win/win......the killer didn't use a gun and the woman he murdered didn't use a gun either.........it was a success for gun control all the way around.......

And so you guys know.....according to Illinois concealed carry law....you have to unload your weapon and put it in a container to take it on public transportation...so even if a concealed carry permit holder was on the train.......that woman would have been dead long before he could have accessed the weapon....

I have no problem with the 2nd amendment.......I have no problem with hand guns, shotguns, hunting rifles, etc. Anybody who thinks a normal U S citizen has any need for an automatic rifle capable of military combat has their right wing head so far up their ass that they'll never smell fresh air again. The folks who wrote the 2nd amendment had no knowledge of any weapon more advanced than a single shot musket with a 10-15 second reload time. GET REAL!!!!


Yeah....we have pretty much looked past fully automatic rifles......and would almost be willing to give up on those...but then you guys come after AR-15s, and mislabel them so you can get them banned too......
And the founders had no idea about the computer you are using....so what you are saying by your logic is that because of the damage computer crime causes...through sex trafficking, allowing terrorists to murder people by allowing them to recruit, move money and plan their attacks, and cyber bullying, and identity theft an the theft of state secrets.....you are saying that only the police and military need computers....right? According to your hair brained logic...right?

So far I haven't killed or maimed anyone with my PC!!
And so far the vast majority of gun owners haven't killed anyone with their weapons


Excellent point.......357,000,000 guns in private hands...... in 2014.... 8,124 gun murders committed by people who are 90% of the time convicted felons who are using guns illegally which they aren't even allowed to buy own or carry.......

So.......it isn't even close....normal, law abiding gun owners aren't using their guns to commit crime or murder...not even a 50-50 ratio.
 
Yes, so many things can be deadly to fragile human beings. Still, nothing else is like that power to just squeeze that little trigger and have a lethal chunk of metal unleashed up to a kilometer or more away. And that nice, loud bang! Almost a shame to muffle it with some danged 'silencer'.
 
Yes, so many things can be deadly to fragile human beings. Still, nothing else is like that power to just squeeze that little trigger and have a lethal chunk of metal unleashed up to a kilometer or more away. And that nice, loud bang! Almost a shame to muffle it with some danged 'silencer'.


Yes....when you are attacked by a younger, stronger, more aggressive thug...who has spent his life abusing other human beings without remorse or sympathy for his victims.....it is nice to know that women and the elderly have a tool that will allow them to survive the attack......especially if the violent monster is armed with a knife, club or just his hands...or his own, illegally acquired and carried gun.....or if he has brought one or more criminal friends with him.......

It is nice to know that finally, in the entire history of man, the weak can finally fight off the strong.....
 
Yes, so many things can be deadly to fragile human beings. Still, nothing else is like that power to just squeeze that little trigger and have a lethal chunk of metal unleashed up to a kilometer or more away. And that nice, loud bang! Almost a shame to muffle it with some danged 'silencer'.
What are you babbling about? Any gun shot in a house will be deafening, maybe permanent hearing loss. Outside not as bad but possibly damaging as well. But yes, firing projectiles is the purpose.
 
Yes, so many things can be deadly to fragile human beings. Still, nothing else is like that power to just squeeze that little trigger and have a lethal chunk of metal unleashed up to a kilometer or more away. And that nice, loud bang! Almost a shame to muffle it with some danged 'silencer'.


Yes....when you are attacked by a younger, stronger, more aggressive thug...who has spent his life abusing other human beings without remorse or sympathy for his victims.....it is nice to know that women and the elderly have a tool that will allow them to survive the attack......especially if the violent monster is armed with a knife, club or just his hands...or his own, illegally acquired and carried gun.....or if he has brought one or more criminal friends with him.......

It is nice to know that finally, in the entire history of man, the weak can finally fight off the strong.....

You dumbass!!! Your scenario is so far from the reality of statistics that it makes you appear to be a fool.
 
This idea of the NRA governing the types of weapons available in gun shops is rank bull shit! Why is it that we're the only industrialized nation in the world which feels the necessity of a ordinary citizen to go armed with a military style killing machine?


The NRA is DC's pimp and elected republicans the cheap whores.
I am surprised the moron didn't call US racist, but I am sure it isn't far from now.

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LMAO!! That Bush comment is a no brainer. Ask the families of the 4500 dead young Americans who had to go in and find Saddam Hussein so the Bush family's "Vengeance" could be completed. The only motivation Bush had to get Saddam was because he tried to assassinate Bush's daddy in Qatar circa 1993.

The entire Republican party never got over that. This letter they wrote to Clinton proves it:

December 18, 1998

The Honorable William J. Clinton
President of the United States
Washington, DC

Dear Mr. President,

We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy toward Iraq is not succeeding, and that we may soon face a threat in the Middle East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War. In your upcoming State of the Union Address, you have an opportunity to chart a clear and determined course for meeting this threat. We urge you to seize that opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests of the U.S. and our friends and allies around the world.
That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Hussein's regime from power. We stand ready to offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor. The policy of containment of Saddam Hussein has been steadily eroding over the past several months. As recent events have demonstrated, we can no longer depend on our partners in the Gulf War coalition to continue to uphold the sanctions or to punish Saddam when he blocks or evades UN inspections. Our ability to ensure that Saddam Hussein is not
producing weapons of mass destruction, therefore, has substantially diminished. Even if full inspections were eventually to resume, which now seems highly unlikely, experience has shown that it is difficult if not impossible to monitor Iraq's chemical and biological weapons production. The lengthy period during which the inspectors will have been unable to enter many Iraqi facilities has made it even less likely that they will be able to uncover all of Saddam's secrets. As a result, in the not-too-distant future we will be unable to determine with any reasonable level of confidence whether Iraq does or does not possess
such weapons. Such uncertainty will, by itself, have a seriously destabilizing effect on the entire Middle East. It hardly needs to be added that if Saddam does acquire the capability to deliver weapons of mass destruction, as he is almost certain to do if we continue along the present course, the safety of American troops in the region, of our friends and allies like Israel and the moderate Arab states, and a significant portion of the world's supply of oil will all be put at hazard. As you have rightly declared, Mr. President, the security of the world in the first part of the 21st century will be determined largely by how we handle this threat. Given the magnitude of the threat, the current policy, which depends for its success upon the
steadfastness of our coalition partners and upon the cooperation of Saddam Hussein, is dangerously inadequate. The only acceptable strategy is one that eliminates the possibility that Iraq will be able to use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction. In the near term, this means a willingness to undertake military action as diplomacy is clearly failing. In the long term, it means removing Saddam Hussein and his regime from power.
That now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy. We urge you to articulate this aim, and to turn your Administration's attention to implementing a strategy for removing Saddam's regime from power. This will require a full complement of diplomatic, political and
military efforts. Although we are fully aware of the dangers and difficulties in implementing this policy, we believe the dangers of failing to do so are far greater. We believe the U.S. has the authority under existing UN resolutions to take the necessary steps, including military steps, to protect our vital interests in the Gulf. In any case, American policy cannot continue to be crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity in the UN Security Council. We urge you to act decisively. If you act now to end the threat of weapons of mass destruction against the U.S. or its allies, you will be acting in the most fundamental national security interests of the country. If we accept a course of weakness and drift, we put our interests and our future at
risk.

Sincerely,

Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitag William J. Bennett
Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky
Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad
William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W.Rodman
Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber
Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick

What you libidiots fail to understand is that Republicans can be liberals too. Liberals love to get the US in wars, just look at the history of the liberals.
Woodrow Wilson ran on the NO US involvement in WWI and after his re election he got US involved.
FDR got US involved with the War in Germany after Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.
Truman got US involved in the Forgotten War.
Kennedy got US involved in the Vietnam War. Johnson escalated the war for his Texas Democrat war machine.
Bush Senior invaded Iraq when Saddam invaded Kuwait.
Clinton wagged the dog, in Bosnia when he got caught with a Cuban in Monica.
Bush Junior went to war with Iraq when Osama Obama bombed NY.
Obama's Clinton bombed Libya, just because she could do it.

You liberals love war, how else can they reduce the population other than aborting liberal fetus's. Thank you for that, otherwise there would be many more liberals in America today.
 
Yes, so many things can be deadly to fragile human beings. Still, nothing else is like that power to just squeeze that little trigger and have a lethal chunk of metal unleashed up to a kilometer or more away. And that nice, loud bang! Almost a shame to muffle it with some danged 'silencer'.


Yes....when you are attacked by a younger, stronger, more aggressive thug...who has spent his life abusing other human beings without remorse or sympathy for his victims.....it is nice to know that women and the elderly have a tool that will allow them to survive the attack......especially if the violent monster is armed with a knife, club or just his hands...or his own, illegally acquired and carried gun.....or if he has brought one or more criminal friends with him.......

It is nice to know that finally, in the entire history of man, the weak can finally fight off the strong.....

You dumbass!!! Your scenario is so far from the reality of statistics that it makes you appear to be a fool.
Huh? What was so far from reality? It happens.
 

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