What the national polls say about a 2020 Trump vs. Biden race.

[U2Edge]

Total BS

The 2020 election is just like the 2016

Same states in play


Trump won 5 states and the election by going for the workers

The same thing again

This time the proof is there more jobs

Vietnam signs a deal worth 15 billion worth of American goods while trump was in Vietnam

His jobs programs will be kicking in stronger and stronger each month

He will win easily 2020

Especially when Barr starts investigations into the democrat crimes

Well, where is the polling data that support your conclusions? There is none at this time. Trump has the lowest average approval rating of any sitting President in history after two years in office. Presidential approval ratings are a strong predictor of whether a President will be re-elected. You typically need a 50% approval rating in the GALLUP poll to be re-elected President although a few a Presidents of made it with just 48% approval. Trump is currently at 44% approval. No President has EVER been re-elected President when their disapproval numbers are higher than their approval numbers.

The unemployment figures have not benefited Trump at all. Every GALLUP poll conducted over the past two years has shown that the majority of Americans disapprove of the job Trump is doing.

Early polling shows 2016 is not going to be like 2020. Biden is essentially tied with Trump in the latest polling in Texas and Arizona. Trump could lose Texas in 2020 based on the latest polls. If Trump loses Texas in 2020, he will lose the election in an embarrassing landslide.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Interesting. A good rebuttal would be a poll showing Trump beating Biden in 2020. I've not seen any yet.

/——/ A year and a half away from the 2008 election Obama wasn’t even on the radar. So stop with the meaningless polls.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Total BS

The 2020 election is just like the 2016

Same states in play


Trump won 5 states and the election by going for the workers

The same thing again

This time the proof is there more jobs

Vietnam signs a deal worth 15 billion worth of American goods while trump was in Vietnam

His jobs programs will be kicking in stronger and stronger each month

He will win easily 2020

Especially when Barr starts investigations into the democrat crimes

Well, where is the polling data that support your conclusions? There is none at this time. Trump has the lowest average approval rating of any sitting President in history after two years in office. Presidential approval ratings are a strong predictor of whether a President will be re-elected. You typically need a 50% approval rating in the GALLUP poll to be re-elected President although a few a Presidents of made it with just 48% approval. Trump is currently at 44% approval. No President has EVER been re-elected President when their disapproval numbers are higher than their approval numbers.

The unemployment figures have not benefited Trump at all. Every GALLUP poll conducted over the past two years has shown that the majority of Americans disapprove of the job Trump is doing.

Early polling shows 2016 is not going to be like 2020. Biden is essentially tied with Trump in the latest polling in Texas and Arizona. Trump could lose Texas in 2020 based on the latest polls. If Trump loses Texas in 2020, he will lose the election in an embarrassing landslide.

The data is the mid term
Elections


The 5 states that will decide


Florida the state with both state wide races. Governor and long term dem senator Nelson

The repubs won both state wide races

This was when trumps approval was less than today and his approval when he won 2016 is less than today

Proving he will win easily with the electoral college

Each month gives trump better support in those 5 worker states

Pa with the steel industry coming back strong will also go for trump again


The democrats has no way to win

They are boxed in

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Again

This is easy

Trump is losing votes from New York and California and increasing votes in the industrial us

This is done by giving more to workers

So trump now has the 2020 race locked up

Each month that goes by he gets stronger in those worker states and weaker in California and New York

But that gives him a certain WIN !!

 

[U2Edge]

Interesting. A good rebuttal would be a poll showing Trump beating Biden in 2020. I've not seen any yet.

/——/ A year and a half away from the 2008 election Obama wasn’t even on the radar. So stop with the meaningless polls.

Obama was very much on the radar at that time. He started his campaign in February 2007.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Then why is Trump only ahead by 1 point over Biden in the great state of Texas in the latest polling there? In Michigan, Trump is behind Biden by 13 points. Nationally he is behind Biden by 10 points. I don't see any polling by anyone that shows Trump in a good position. All the polls show that he is in serious trouble.

Is this a serious question? These are the same polls that said Hillary was going to win in a landslide and that TRUMP had no path to the presidency.

October 25, 2016...NYTimes gave Hillary 93% chance of winning the election.
2016 Election Forecast: Who Will Be President?

She won by 3 million votes. A FLUKE in the electoral college allowed Trump to eek out a tiny victory. It was an unlikely result, but sometimes unlikely things happen. Very unlikely to happen in 2020.

No she didn't.

In America we count the votes of citizens, not illegals that Democrats encourage to vote.


illegals get driver's licenses that say no voting.....

Really?

I say Democrat's who work the polls ignore that blue bar and simply look at the name on the driver's license.

And guess what?

"It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California
If you take California out of the popular vote equation, then Trump wins the rest of the country by 1.4 million votes.
.... if you look at every other measure, Trump was the clear and decisive winner in this election."
It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California


Think California is loaded with illegal alien voters??????

You betcha'!!!!





California has the largest number of illegal immigrants in the United States, with an estimated 2.4 million unauthorized immigrants making up about 6.3 percent of the state's total population, according to the Pew Research Center.Sep 14, 2015

iIllegal Immigration Statistics in California - Newsmax.com
www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/illegal-immigration-California/2015/09/14/.../691462/





You do know that Obama told illegals to vote....don't you?

I wish this were true, because then Trumps chances of winning in 2020 would be even lower.

1. Everything I post is true. 100% You couldn't find anything in my post that isn't correct.

2. How, you dunce, does this translate into Trump having a lesser chance of winning against the socialists.

I'll assume that you are a government school grad.




Just a reminder, and something to think about if you decide to vote:

1. Obama told illegal aliens to go and vote, saying "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


2. After promising that Iran would never get nuclear weapons, Obama guaranteed them nukes.

October 7 2008, in the second presidential debate: "We cannot allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. It would be a game-changer in the region. Not only would it threaten Israel, our strongest ally in the region and one of our strongest allies in the world, but it would also create a possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of terrorists. And so it's unacceptable. And I will do everything that's required to prevent it. And we will never take military options off the table"




The first is an attack on America, the second, on all of Western Civilization.

 

[PoliticalChic]

90% of Hillary Clintons votes came from just 5 places. Los Angelos, Chicago, New York City, New Orleans. and your Ass.

She only won 15% of The Geographical US.

To win a National Election, you cannot just appeal to such a narrow concentrated Demographic.

The Electoral College was designed to defeat that, and make sure that a President appealed to the widest possible cross section of The Country.

Trump won 85% of all the counties in THE US, and that is exactly how The Electoral College was supposed to Work.

I think he wins by an even wider margin now as any concerns about his ability to do the job have no merit, and scare tactics by The Left are going to fall on deaf ears.

Carry on with your propaganda campaign. You go girl.

People just aren't going to listen this time. It had some traction back in 2016...but you dimwits have painted yourself in a corner having accomplished nothing but division, calls for impeachment, your subpoena cannon, and your Nothing Burger waste of $40 Million Dollars on Moscow Mueller.

The Democrats did win back the House Of Representatives which The Donald is not happy about. I support the electoral college for some the reasons you mentioned. Having said that, the winner of the popular vote is still more than 90% of the time also the winner of the electoral college. No sitting President has ever been re-elected without winning the popular vote.

The polling to date on Trump VS. Biden does not look good for Trump at all. Trump has the lowest average approval rating of any President in history after over two years in office. His average after two years is 40%. The next lowest average was Truman at 45% and he declined to run for a second election after his first victory in 1948.

I'm waiting for the next Trump VS. Biden matchup poll to be released. Will see if Trump's position improves at all.

October 25, 2016...NYTimes gave Hillary 93% chance of winning the election.
2016 Election Forecast: Who Will Be President?



Your candidate:
Joe Biden: ‘I’ve Never Been Gainfully Employed In My Life’
Joe Biden: ‘I’ve Never Been Gainfully Employed In My Life’ | Breitbart

There's nothing like putting a free-loader in charge of the economy, huh?
http://api.addthis.com/oexchange/0....’ve+Never+Been+Gainfully+Employed+In+My+Life’

 

[PoliticalChic]

Its easy to say Trump will win. But show some unbiased evidence that indicates he can win in 2020. Like his approval rating or polling data. Just claiming that he will "kick your ass" is meaningless and irrelevant.

Also, let me remind you that the Republicans just lost the House Of Representatives. It belongs to the Democrats now. By January 2021, Democrats may have the White House and both houses of Congress. It will be fun watching the Trump supporters explain how that happened.

Here is some unbiased evidence that indicates that Trump can win in 2020. The Las Vegas betting odds. If you are so confident he will lose, put your money where your mouth is and win some cash. p.s. Trump also has history on his side. Its difficult to beat an incumbent president.
Cohen Testimony Has Zero Effect on 2020 Presidential Odds

Agreed that the GOP lost the House in 2018. We can disagree on the reasons why. IMHO it was because the MSM scared off (40) incumbent GOP congressmen. Another reason is that the dems put up good candidates in toss-up districts like Connor Lamb in Pittsburgh. Then Nancy and AOC whine when they vote to tell ICE when illegals try to buy guns. Primary them in 2020 and lose the House when the leftists try to promote their agenda.

In 2020 Barr'ing anything unusual, the GOP wins the presidency, keeps the Senate, and has a good shot at taking the House back. So we're looking at 2020 very differently. When the voters see the dem's agenda they will never vote for a dem. Here are the dem policies I'm tracking for 2020:
1. Open borders, tear down the southern border fence/wall
2. Sanctuary cities & states
3. Free college
4. Single Payer Healthcare, aka rationed healthcare
5. Eliminate ICE and DHS, turn the US into the EU, with muslim "no go zones"
6. Promote Globalism, whatever Wall Street wants Wall Street gets, see K-Street Cash
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements, e.g tax breaks to move factories overseas
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property
10. Let NK develop nukes and ICBM delivery systems, have no one capable of dealing with NK
11. Raise taxes, especially on corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Max food stamps instead of good paying jobs
13. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
14. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
15. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
16. No new pipelines
17. No offshore drilling
18. No privacy as tech giants like google and facebook work with dems to promote liberalism
19. Colleges only allow liberal speakers and professors who indoctrinate kids to be liberals or flunk out
20. The dems' "Central Committee" appoints super-delegates to subvert real voters in primaries
21. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
22. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
23. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
24. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump and paid for the phony Steele Dossier
25. Sell US secrets like Wen Ho Lee sold nuke secrets to China, and Obama/Hillary sold uranium to the Russians via the UraniumOne scam
26. Have the Black Panthers or antifa guard urban polling stations with clubs to keep conservative voters away, guarantee those 300,000 to 0 results
27. Do not allow conservative blacks on TV, keep those urban plantations 100% democrat.
28. Allow the aclu, and BLM to protect criminals and put blue lives in danger.
29. Hire bimbos to swear that they were sexually assaulted by the GOP candidates.
30. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud, and promote "vote harvesting" to steal elections
31. Democrats refuse to provide funding for border walls/security, which DHS says is desperately needed.
32. Democrats want to give $Trillions to Mexico and Central America for a Marshal Plan, but won't help US citizens living in tent cities
33. Impose gun control, outlaw private gun sales, outlaw AR style rifles, restrict sales of bullets, etc.
34. "Green New Deal" Impose a "carbon tax" to punish anyone who works, heats their home, flies, or has a car
35. Anti-business democrat socialists caused Amazon to flee NYC taking 25,000 good paying jobs to VA
36. REPARATIONS to blacks to pay for slavery, $trillions owed by US voters
37. Trump has Navarro and Lightheiser managing economic & Trade Policy, to bring back good jobs the dems have no one
38. Promote or excuse the murder of newborns, i.e. "infantacide"

Best case scenario for Trump is that he loses by only one or two states in the electoral college. The worst case scenario is that he only wins a total of 12 states and 64 electoral votes. If Texas and Arizona flip blue in 2020, this could be the outcome.

Trump may get slaughtered in 2020 and win only the following states:

South Carolina
Mississippi
Alabama
Oklahoma
Kansas
Nebraska
South Dakota
North Dakota
Wyoming
Idaho
Utah
Alaska

That's only 64 electoral votes.

I see an unqualified opinion, but nothing to back it up. So lets just say we'll see in 2020. Remember how Hillary had a 95% probability of winning in 2016?

She won by 3 million votes. The polls were right. A fluke of the electoral college is how Trump pulled out a victory. Its rare that it happens. No sitting President has been re-elected without winning the Popular vote.

As I showed.....she did no such thing.


How many illegal aliens reside in the USofA?

It's something else you're clueless about.

 

[U2Edge]

Total BS

The 2020 election is just like the 2016

Same states in play


Trump won 5 states and the election by going for the workers

The same thing again

This time the proof is there more jobs

Vietnam signs a deal worth 15 billion worth of American goods while trump was in Vietnam

His jobs programs will be kicking in stronger and stronger each month

He will win easily 2020

Especially when Barr starts investigations into the democrat crimes

Well, where is the polling data that support your conclusions? There is none at this time. Trump has the lowest average approval rating of any sitting President in history after two years in office. Presidential approval ratings are a strong predictor of whether a President will be re-elected. You typically need a 50% approval rating in the GALLUP poll to be re-elected President although a few a Presidents of made it with just 48% approval. Trump is currently at 44% approval. No President has EVER been re-elected President when their disapproval numbers are higher than their approval numbers.

The unemployment figures have not benefited Trump at all. Every GALLUP poll conducted over the past two years has shown that the majority of Americans disapprove of the job Trump is doing.

Early polling shows 2016 is not going to be like 2020. Biden is essentially tied with Trump in the latest polling in Texas and Arizona. Trump could lose Texas in 2020 based on the latest polls. If Trump loses Texas in 2020, he will lose the election in an embarrassing landslide.

The data is the mid term
Elections


The 5 states that will decide


Florida the state with both state wide races. Governor and long term dem senator Nelson

The repubs won both state wide races

This was when trumps approval was less than today and his approval when he won 2016 is less than today

Proving he will win easily with the electoral college

Each month gives trump better support in those 5 worker states

Pa with the steel industry coming back strong will also go for trump again


The democrats has no way to win

They are boxed in

Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin won't be supporting Trump in 2020. Trump was lucky to win those states in 2016 and only won them because Democrats neglected the states because they were apart of the famous Blue Wall and would not break under any conditions. H

01. Hillary never even went to Wisconsin during the campaign. She lost the state by a tiny margin of 23,000 votes, less than 1 percentage point. Trump got only 1,405,284 votes in Wisconsin which is less than Romney got in 2012 with 1,407,966. Romney lost Wisconsin by over 200,000 votes and 7 percentage points. Trump did worse than Romney but won because the Democrats neglected to get out the vote in Wisconsin. There was no special surge of support for Trump in Wisconsin or Democrats crossing over to vote for Trump in significant margins. Trump won Wisconsin because too many Democrats stayed at home on election night do to the lack of campaigning in the state by Hillary Clintons team.

02. In Michigan Trump only won by 10,700 votes, or 2/10s of a percentage point. Again, Democrats stayed home do to the smaller amount of campaign money spent in the state by Hillary's team. Trump won the state with only 2,279,543 votes, the lowest number of votes for the victor in Michigan since the year 2000. Again, no surge of support for the Republican candidate in Michigan in 2016. The victory came because too many Democrats stayed home on election night due to lack of spending and attention in the State by Hillary Clintons team. In the latest polling in Michigan, Biden is ahead of Trump by 13 points.

03. Donald Trump won Pennsylvania by only 44,000 votes in 2016. Donald Trump got 2,970,000 votes. The lowest vote total for a winner of the state since 2004. The margin of victory was less than one percentage point. Again, Democrats neglected the state in terms of funding. This won't happen in 2020. Pennsylvania had voted for the Democratic candidate in each of the six prior elections before 2016. Donald Trump won Pennsylvania by the 2nd smallest margin in Pennsylvania history. You have to go back to the 1840 election to find a smaller margin of victory in Pennsylvania.


Trump can't win the election in 2020 without the above three states. He was very lucky to have won them in 2016 and he barely won them, primarily due to Democratic party neglect in funding in those states.

 

[U2Edge]

Its easy to say Trump will win. But show some unbiased evidence that indicates he can win in 2020. Like his approval rating or polling data. Just claiming that he will "kick your ass" is meaningless and irrelevant.

Also, let me remind you that the Republicans just lost the House Of Representatives. It belongs to the Democrats now. By January 2021, Democrats may have the White House and both houses of Congress. It will be fun watching the Trump supporters explain how that happened.

Here is some unbiased evidence that indicates that Trump can win in 2020. The Las Vegas betting odds. If you are so confident he will lose, put your money where your mouth is and win some cash. p.s. Trump also has history on his side. Its difficult to beat an incumbent president.
Cohen Testimony Has Zero Effect on 2020 Presidential Odds

Agreed that the GOP lost the House in 2018. We can disagree on the reasons why. IMHO it was because the MSM scared off (40) incumbent GOP congressmen. Another reason is that the dems put up good candidates in toss-up districts like Connor Lamb in Pittsburgh. Then Nancy and AOC whine when they vote to tell ICE when illegals try to buy guns. Primary them in 2020 and lose the House when the leftists try to promote their agenda.

In 2020 Barr'ing anything unusual, the GOP wins the presidency, keeps the Senate, and has a good shot at taking the House back. So we're looking at 2020 very differently. When the voters see the dem's agenda they will never vote for a dem. Here are the dem policies I'm tracking for 2020:
1. Open borders, tear down the southern border fence/wall
2. Sanctuary cities & states
3. Free college
4. Single Payer Healthcare, aka rationed healthcare
5. Eliminate ICE and DHS, turn the US into the EU, with muslim "no go zones"
6. Promote Globalism, whatever Wall Street wants Wall Street gets, see K-Street Cash
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements, e.g tax breaks to move factories overseas
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property
10. Let NK develop nukes and ICBM delivery systems, have no one capable of dealing with NK
11. Raise taxes, especially on corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Max food stamps instead of good paying jobs
13. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
14. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
15. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
16. No new pipelines
17. No offshore drilling
18. No privacy as tech giants like google and facebook work with dems to promote liberalism
19. Colleges only allow liberal speakers and professors who indoctrinate kids to be liberals or flunk out
20. The dems' "Central Committee" appoints super-delegates to subvert real voters in primaries
21. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
22. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
23. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
24. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump and paid for the phony Steele Dossier
25. Sell US secrets like Wen Ho Lee sold nuke secrets to China, and Obama/Hillary sold uranium to the Russians via the UraniumOne scam
26. Have the Black Panthers or antifa guard urban polling stations with clubs to keep conservative voters away, guarantee those 300,000 to 0 results
27. Do not allow conservative blacks on TV, keep those urban plantations 100% democrat.
28. Allow the aclu, and BLM to protect criminals and put blue lives in danger.
29. Hire bimbos to swear that they were sexually assaulted by the GOP candidates.
30. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud, and promote "vote harvesting" to steal elections
31. Democrats refuse to provide funding for border walls/security, which DHS says is desperately needed.
32. Democrats want to give $Trillions to Mexico and Central America for a Marshal Plan, but won't help US citizens living in tent cities
33. Impose gun control, outlaw private gun sales, outlaw AR style rifles, restrict sales of bullets, etc.
34. "Green New Deal" Impose a "carbon tax" to punish anyone who works, heats their home, flies, or has a car
35. Anti-business democrat socialists caused Amazon to flee NYC taking 25,000 good paying jobs to VA
36. REPARATIONS to blacks to pay for slavery, $trillions owed by US voters
37. Trump has Navarro and Lightheiser managing economic & Trade Policy, to bring back good jobs the dems have no one
38. Promote or excuse the murder of newborns, i.e. "infantacide"

Best case scenario for Trump is that he loses by only one or two states in the electoral college. The worst case scenario is that he only wins a total of 12 states and 64 electoral votes. If Texas and Arizona flip blue in 2020, this could be the outcome.

Trump may get slaughtered in 2020 and win only the following states:

South Carolina
Mississippi
Alabama
Oklahoma
Kansas
Nebraska
South Dakota
North Dakota
Wyoming
Idaho
Utah
Alaska

That's only 64 electoral votes.

I see an unqualified opinion, but nothing to back it up. So lets just say we'll see in 2020. Remember how Hillary had a 95% probability of winning in 2016?

She won by 3 million votes. The polls were right. A fluke of the electoral college is how Trump pulled out a victory. Its rare that it happens. No sitting President has been re-elected without winning the Popular vote.

As I showed.....she did no such thing.


How many illegal aliens reside in the USofA?

It's something else you're clueless about.

Doesn't matter who they are because they will be voting again in 2020 and this time in even higher numbers AGAINST Trump.

 

[U2Edge]

90% of Hillary Clintons votes came from just 5 places. Los Angelos, Chicago, New York City, New Orleans. and your Ass.

She only won 15% of The Geographical US.

To win a National Election, you cannot just appeal to such a narrow concentrated Demographic.

The Electoral College was designed to defeat that, and make sure that a President appealed to the widest possible cross section of The Country.

Trump won 85% of all the counties in THE US, and that is exactly how The Electoral College was supposed to Work.

I think he wins by an even wider margin now as any concerns about his ability to do the job have no merit, and scare tactics by The Left are going to fall on deaf ears.

Carry on with your propaganda campaign. You go girl.

People just aren't going to listen this time. It had some traction back in 2016...but you dimwits have painted yourself in a corner having accomplished nothing but division, calls for impeachment, your subpoena cannon, and your Nothing Burger waste of $40 Million Dollars on Moscow Mueller.

The Democrats did win back the House Of Representatives which The Donald is not happy about. I support the electoral college for some the reasons you mentioned. Having said that, the winner of the popular vote is still more than 90% of the time also the winner of the electoral college. No sitting President has ever been re-elected without winning the popular vote.

The polling to date on Trump VS. Biden does not look good for Trump at all. Trump has the lowest average approval rating of any President in history after over two years in office. His average after two years is 40%. The next lowest average was Truman at 45% and he declined to run for a second election after his first victory in 1948.

I'm waiting for the next Trump VS. Biden matchup poll to be released. Will see if Trump's position improves at all.

October 25, 2016...NYTimes gave Hillary 93% chance of winning the election.
2016 Election Forecast: Who Will Be President?



Your candidate:
Joe Biden: ‘I’ve Never Been Gainfully Employed In My Life’
Joe Biden: ‘I’ve Never Been Gainfully Employed In My Life’ | Breitbart

There's nothing like putting a free-loader in charge of the economy, huh?

Biden's worked far harder in his life than Trump. Biden has served the nation most of his life. Trump inherited his money, and squandered much of it. Trump was never a good businessman. His real talent is in being a talk show host, a shock jock. His mouth and the crazy that comes out of it is where his talent lies. He should have been like Rush Limbaugh or Howard Stern. Business, economics, policy analysis, and politics are not where his talents lie.

Bring up Hillary and the 2016 election all you like. It won't save Trump from defeat in 2020.

 

[U2Edge]

Again

This is easy

Trump is losing votes from New York and California and increasing votes in the industrial us

This is done by giving more to workers

So trump now has the 2020 race locked up

Each month that goes by he gets stronger in those worker states and weaker in California and New York

But that gives him a certain WIN !!

Well, the polls don't show that. He is down by 13 points against BIDEN in the latest poll in Michigan. I seriously doubt even Rasmussen would show Trump ahead of Biden in Michigan right now.

Trumps total votes in Wisconsin WERE LESS THAN MITT ROMNEYS IN 2012. THERE WAS NO INCREASE IN SUPPORT FOR THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEY IN 2016 in WISCONSIN.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Interesting. A good rebuttal would be a poll showing Trump beating Biden in 2020. I've not seen any yet.

/——/ A year and a half away from the 2008 election Obama wasn’t even on the radar. So stop with the meaningless polls.

Obama was very much on the radar at that time. He started his campaign in February 2007.

/---/ Hildabeast was the assumed nominee - just waiting for her coronation and then kicked to the curb by an unknown.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Here is some unbiased evidence that indicates that Trump can win in 2020. The Las Vegas betting odds. If you are so confident he will lose, put your money where your mouth is and win some cash. p.s. Trump also has history on his side. Its difficult to beat an incumbent president.
Cohen Testimony Has Zero Effect on 2020 Presidential Odds

Agreed that the GOP lost the House in 2018. We can disagree on the reasons why. IMHO it was because the MSM scared off (40) incumbent GOP congressmen. Another reason is that the dems put up good candidates in toss-up districts like Connor Lamb in Pittsburgh. Then Nancy and AOC whine when they vote to tell ICE when illegals try to buy guns. Primary them in 2020 and lose the House when the leftists try to promote their agenda.

In 2020 Barr'ing anything unusual, the GOP wins the presidency, keeps the Senate, and has a good shot at taking the House back. So we're looking at 2020 very differently. When the voters see the dem's agenda they will never vote for a dem. Here are the dem policies I'm tracking for 2020:
1. Open borders, tear down the southern border fence/wall
2. Sanctuary cities & states
3. Free college
4. Single Payer Healthcare, aka rationed healthcare
5. Eliminate ICE and DHS, turn the US into the EU, with muslim "no go zones"
6. Promote Globalism, whatever Wall Street wants Wall Street gets, see K-Street Cash
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements, e.g tax breaks to move factories overseas
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property
10. Let NK develop nukes and ICBM delivery systems, have no one capable of dealing with NK
11. Raise taxes, especially on corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Max food stamps instead of good paying jobs
13. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
14. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
15. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
16. No new pipelines
17. No offshore drilling
18. No privacy as tech giants like google and facebook work with dems to promote liberalism
19. Colleges only allow liberal speakers and professors who indoctrinate kids to be liberals or flunk out
20. The dems' "Central Committee" appoints super-delegates to subvert real voters in primaries
21. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
22. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
23. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
24. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump and paid for the phony Steele Dossier
25. Sell US secrets like Wen Ho Lee sold nuke secrets to China, and Obama/Hillary sold uranium to the Russians via the UraniumOne scam
26. Have the Black Panthers or antifa guard urban polling stations with clubs to keep conservative voters away, guarantee those 300,000 to 0 results
27. Do not allow conservative blacks on TV, keep those urban plantations 100% democrat.
28. Allow the aclu, and BLM to protect criminals and put blue lives in danger.
29. Hire bimbos to swear that they were sexually assaulted by the GOP candidates.
30. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud, and promote "vote harvesting" to steal elections
31. Democrats refuse to provide funding for border walls/security, which DHS says is desperately needed.
32. Democrats want to give $Trillions to Mexico and Central America for a Marshal Plan, but won't help US citizens living in tent cities
33. Impose gun control, outlaw private gun sales, outlaw AR style rifles, restrict sales of bullets, etc.
34. "Green New Deal" Impose a "carbon tax" to punish anyone who works, heats their home, flies, or has a car
35. Anti-business democrat socialists caused Amazon to flee NYC taking 25,000 good paying jobs to VA
36. REPARATIONS to blacks to pay for slavery, $trillions owed by US voters
37. Trump has Navarro and Lightheiser managing economic & Trade Policy, to bring back good jobs the dems have no one
38. Promote or excuse the murder of newborns, i.e. "infantacide"

Best case scenario for Trump is that he loses by only one or two states in the electoral college. The worst case scenario is that he only wins a total of 12 states and 64 electoral votes. If Texas and Arizona flip blue in 2020, this could be the outcome.

Trump may get slaughtered in 2020 and win only the following states:

South Carolina
Mississippi
Alabama
Oklahoma
Kansas
Nebraska
South Dakota
North Dakota
Wyoming
Idaho
Utah
Alaska

That's only 64 electoral votes.

I see an unqualified opinion, but nothing to back it up. So lets just say we'll see in 2020. Remember how Hillary had a 95% probability of winning in 2016?

She won by 3 million votes. The polls were right. A fluke of the electoral college is how Trump pulled out a victory. Its rare that it happens. No sitting President has been re-elected without winning the Popular vote.

As I showed.....she did no such thing.


How many illegal aliens reside in the USofA?

It's something else you're clueless about.

Doesn't matter who they are because they will be voting again in 2020 and this time in even higher numbers AGAINST Trump.

I need to get you on record: just fine with you that illegal aliens vote in our elections.



You are the perfect example of why America-hating Democrats/Liberals need be exiles, and government schools revamped, the Leftist agents removed.


Please keep posting.

 

[PoliticalChic]

90% of Hillary Clintons votes came from just 5 places. Los Angelos, Chicago, New York City, New Orleans. and your Ass.

She only won 15% of The Geographical US.

To win a National Election, you cannot just appeal to such a narrow concentrated Demographic.

The Electoral College was designed to defeat that, and make sure that a President appealed to the widest possible cross section of The Country.

Trump won 85% of all the counties in THE US, and that is exactly how The Electoral College was supposed to Work.

I think he wins by an even wider margin now as any concerns about his ability to do the job have no merit, and scare tactics by The Left are going to fall on deaf ears.

Carry on with your propaganda campaign. You go girl.

People just aren't going to listen this time. It had some traction back in 2016...but you dimwits have painted yourself in a corner having accomplished nothing but division, calls for impeachment, your subpoena cannon, and your Nothing Burger waste of $40 Million Dollars on Moscow Mueller.

The Democrats did win back the House Of Representatives which The Donald is not happy about. I support the electoral college for some the reasons you mentioned. Having said that, the winner of the popular vote is still more than 90% of the time also the winner of the electoral college. No sitting President has ever been re-elected without winning the popular vote.

The polling to date on Trump VS. Biden does not look good for Trump at all. Trump has the lowest average approval rating of any President in history after over two years in office. His average after two years is 40%. The next lowest average was Truman at 45% and he declined to run for a second election after his first victory in 1948.

I'm waiting for the next Trump VS. Biden matchup poll to be released. Will see if Trump's position improves at all.

October 25, 2016...NYTimes gave Hillary 93% chance of winning the election.
2016 Election Forecast: Who Will Be President?



Your candidate:
Joe Biden: ‘I’ve Never Been Gainfully Employed In My Life’
Joe Biden: ‘I’ve Never Been Gainfully Employed In My Life’ | Breitbart

There's nothing like putting a free-loader in charge of the economy, huh?

Biden's worked far harder in his life than Trump. Biden has served the nation most of his life. Trump inherited his money, and squandered much of it. Trump was never a good businessman. His real talent is in being a talk show host, a shock jock. His mouth and the crazy that comes out of it is where his talent lies. He should have been like Rush Limbaugh or Howard Stern. Business, economics, policy analysis, and politics are not where his talents lie.

Bring up Hillary and the 2016 election all you like. It won't save Trump from defeat in 2020.

"Biden's worked far harder in his life than Trump."

Here's the prob for Liberals....when you're a part of the 'masses'.....sometimes the 'm' is silent.

 

[Likkmee]

tWump is too good at debates. Biden would look like Jeb going against Kaptin Orange on stage

 

[kyzr]

Here is some unbiased evidence that indicates that Trump can win in 2020. The Las Vegas betting odds. If you are so confident he will lose, put your money where your mouth is and win some cash. p.s. Trump also has history on his side. Its difficult to beat an incumbent president.
Cohen Testimony Has Zero Effect on 2020 Presidential Odds

Agreed that the GOP lost the House in 2018. We can disagree on the reasons why. IMHO it was because the MSM scared off (40) incumbent GOP congressmen. Another reason is that the dems put up good candidates in toss-up districts like Connor Lamb in Pittsburgh. Then Nancy and AOC whine when they vote to tell ICE when illegals try to buy guns. Primary them in 2020 and lose the House when the leftists try to promote their agenda.

In 2020 Barr'ing anything unusual, the GOP wins the presidency, keeps the Senate, and has a good shot at taking the House back. So we're looking at 2020 very differently. When the voters see the dem's agenda they will never vote for a dem. Here are the dem policies I'm tracking for 2020:
1. Open borders, tear down the southern border fence/wall
2. Sanctuary cities & states
3. Free college
4. Single Payer Healthcare, aka rationed healthcare
5. Eliminate ICE and DHS, turn the US into the EU, with muslim "no go zones"
6. Promote Globalism, whatever Wall Street wants Wall Street gets, see K-Street Cash
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements, e.g tax breaks to move factories overseas
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property
10. Let NK develop nukes and ICBM delivery systems, have no one capable of dealing with NK
11. Raise taxes, especially on corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Max food stamps instead of good paying jobs
13. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
14. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
15. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
16. No new pipelines
17. No offshore drilling
18. No privacy as tech giants like google and facebook work with dems to promote liberalism
19. Colleges only allow liberal speakers and professors who indoctrinate kids to be liberals or flunk out
20. The dems' "Central Committee" appoints super-delegates to subvert real voters in primaries
21. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
22. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
23. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
24. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump and paid for the phony Steele Dossier
25. Sell US secrets like Wen Ho Lee sold nuke secrets to China, and Obama/Hillary sold uranium to the Russians via the UraniumOne scam
26. Have the Black Panthers or antifa guard urban polling stations with clubs to keep conservative voters away, guarantee those 300,000 to 0 results
27. Do not allow conservative blacks on TV, keep those urban plantations 100% democrat.
28. Allow the aclu, and BLM to protect criminals and put blue lives in danger.
29. Hire bimbos to swear that they were sexually assaulted by the GOP candidates.
30. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud, and promote "vote harvesting" to steal elections
31. Democrats refuse to provide funding for border walls/security, which DHS says is desperately needed.
32. Democrats want to give $Trillions to Mexico and Central America for a Marshal Plan, but won't help US citizens living in tent cities
33. Impose gun control, outlaw private gun sales, outlaw AR style rifles, restrict sales of bullets, etc.
34. "Green New Deal" Impose a "carbon tax" to punish anyone who works, heats their home, flies, or has a car
35. Anti-business democrat socialists caused Amazon to flee NYC taking 25,000 good paying jobs to VA
36. REPARATIONS to blacks to pay for slavery, $trillions owed by US voters
37. Trump has Navarro and Lightheiser managing economic & Trade Policy, to bring back good jobs the dems have no one
38. Promote or excuse the murder of newborns, i.e. "infantacide"

Best case scenario for Trump is that he loses by only one or two states in the electoral college. The worst case scenario is that he only wins a total of 12 states and 64 electoral votes. If Texas and Arizona flip blue in 2020, this could be the outcome.

Trump may get slaughtered in 2020 and win only the following states:

South Carolina
Mississippi
Alabama
Oklahoma
Kansas
Nebraska
South Dakota
North Dakota
Wyoming
Idaho
Utah
Alaska

That's only 64 electoral votes.

I see an unqualified opinion, but nothing to back it up. So lets just say we'll see in 2020. Remember how Hillary had a 95% probability of winning in 2016?

She won by 3 million votes. The polls were right. A fluke of the electoral college is how Trump pulled out a victory. Its rare that it happens. No sitting President has been re-elected without winning the Popular vote.

Stop with that bullshit. HILLARY LOST TO TRUMP. There is no "popular vote" there is only the Electoral College.
Watch the video and see how the MSM went thru all the states and said that there was no way Trump could win the election.
The MSM/CNN said in the video that Hillary had a 95% probability of winning the election. Its the election that matters not the popular vote. The polls were all wrong.

01. The National Polls are predicting the popular vote.

02. Over 90% of the time, the winner of the popular vote wins the electoral college. There have been 58 Presidential elections. In only 5 of those elections, did the popular vote winner, fail to win the electoral college. Its a rare fluke when the popular vote winner is not the winner of the electoral college.

03. The National Polls predicted Hillary Clinton would win the popular vote.

04. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote proving that the polls were correct.

05. Trump's victory in the electoral college was a rare fluke and it was a victory by very tiny margins in three states that the Hillary Campaign had neglected in terms of visits and funding.

06. One news organization predicted Hillary has a 95% chance of winning is not representative of all polling organizations and all elections before that time or since that time. The prediction also was NOT 100% chance of winning either.

07. The national polls correctly predicted the popular vote in 2016. No sitting President has ever been re-elected without winning the popular vote.

08. There is such a thing as rare win under unlikely conditions based on probability. That is exactly what happened in 2016. Trump was lucky. You can be lucky once, but it would not be rational to believe that 2016 shows or proves that Trump is going to win in 2020. The razor thin margin of victory and how improbable the victory was in 2016 makes it extremely unlikely that situation will repeat itself in 2020.

09. Trump will not be re-elected President in 2020 without winning the popular vote. The average of his approval ratings the past two years and the early polling match ups against Biden done by multiple polling agencies, all show that Trumps chances in 2020 are even less likely than they were in 2016.

1. We aren't talking about national polls, my video shows how the MSM predicted THE 2016 ELECTION (not national polls)
2. irrelevant
3. irrelevant (the popular vote does not elect the president)
4. Wrong. The MSM polls in my video predicted Hillary would win the election (the pop vote is irrelevant)
5. A win is a win baby, come on 2020
6. The majority of polls predicted that Hillary would win the election, i.e. the EC, they were wrong for whatever reasons
7. the 2016 pop vote is irrelevant, 2020 will be decided by the EC, NOT the popular vote
8. Agreed. Trump barely won in 2016 in spite of the FBI, DOJ, and MSM's coordinated efforts. He and we were very lucky. Since you cite history, don't incumbent presidents usually win re-election? I think they do.
Trump will likely win reelection in 2020
9. Stop with that popular vote bullshit. CA and NY can "harvest" all the votes they want and the EC negates their efforts.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Again

This is easy

Trump is losing votes from New York and California and increasing votes in the industrial us

This is done by giving more to workers

So trump now has the 2020 race locked up

Each month that goes by he gets stronger in those worker states and weaker in California and New York

But that gives him a certain WIN !!

Well, the polls don't show that. He is down by 13 points against BIDEN in the latest poll in Michigan. I seriously doubt even Rasmussen would show Trump ahead of Biden in Michigan right now.

Trumps total votes in Wisconsin WERE LESS THAN MITT ROMNEYS IN 2012. THERE WAS NO INCREASE IN SUPPORT FOR THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEY IN 2016 in WISCONSIN.

Again fraud polls


Weighing the 18 yr old turn out wrong. Just to try to influence the voters for the dems

Did not work in 2016 with the mich polls way off

And will not work in 2020

After a bruising fight with sanders voters. The sanders voters will not turn out in cold mich

And with each month trumps job plan will kick in more and more for mich

And now the investigations of the real crooks the democrats will begin by Barr

Again. Trump will increase in the industrial states and decrease in California and New York

This makes a certain win by trump

 

[TomParks]

I hope Bernie wins the nomination to rub Hillary’s nose in shit

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Sanders white women voters going against bidens black women voters


In the general election the loser group will not turn out for the general election then trump will win in a landslide