What was a reason for God to sacrifice His Son?

[Picaro]

The person in verse 7 is the same person in verse 8. Read the Scriptures as they are written, not through the watchtower lens. Jesus is Jehovah.

The Watchtower is a cult with many false prophecies over the years. Ask your leaders who translated the New World Translation and I guarantee you they will not give you the names. Do your own research. They were 4 men, and only one of them had any knowledge of Hebrew and Greek. The NWT isn't a credible translation. Do the research.
Jehovah's Witnesses

The supposed scholars of Jesus day--taught-- It was impossible for Jesus and his apostles to be real teachers, they did not attend their schools of men. Jesus real teachers do not need the schools of men, the holy spirit gives them truth at the proper time. As set up by God and his son. I know 100% they are the teachers Jesus appointed.

who were the "supposed scholars of 'jesus day" ? Can you identify any of those 'supposed scholars' who evaluated 'jesus
and his apostles'? Please try to be, at least, a little specific.
Eg---the "supposed scholars were........." and "this is what
_________said about Jesus..." I am sure that you understand
that by the time Jesus was living-----most adult jewish males were
literate. I would GUESS that Jesus was literate

The only group on earth who ( were) Gods chosen)-- Israel. The Pharisees, saducees, most assuredly the scribes as well. God was trying to turn them around back to him--They rejected him and his Messiah--They were cut off-Matthew 23:37-39)
Jesus was Gods son, Was he literate.
The Israelite spiritual leaders, kept-EVERY written Law--They unfortunately took them to far. They had false reasoning concerning the messiah--They thought Jesus was coming then when he did, but thought a mighty king was coming to fight the romans and rid them of their rule. A mere carpenters son shows up telling them they are making many errors concerning the Laws of God and that he brought a new covenant-Love instead of written Law. They hated him and tried to kill him a few x. Those were Gods chosen scholars of the day.
It shows how powerful satan is--Jesus said satan rules this world( system of things)--No wonder the bible teaches---Beware if you think you are standing strong.

Actually only the Jews who promote the Covenant matter; the rest aren't 'chosen'. The people who are 'chosen' were chosen by grace, not race, or intelligence, or any other reason. Those that stop promoting the Covenants were either punished or abandoned, and the history make that very clear, as does the OT and NT itself; your are seriously mistaken if you think Gentiles can't be Jewish, and count, and it's a matter of race.

And, Jesus was very much an 'old school' Rabbi, all about returning to the original intent and Mosaic teachings, and brought with a new Covenant, since most of the Jews running the temples and the politics had long abandoned the Covenants and focused on themselves as a 'Master Race' and assigned themselves privileges and offices based on their genealogies, not their religion. The last 'prophet' sent was Malachi, some 300 years before the Christian era. The Pharisees rose to power in that time span, and other schools, like Hillel's, came along as reformers as well.

And no, the 'Israelites' were a separate Jewish tribe from that of Judah, and no, the spiritual leaders of the Temple were not keeping the law, they were merely indulging in 'legalisms', quit a different thing than keeping the spirit of Moses and their covenant. They turned it into a profit center and class status for themselves.

Try again-----you forgot---I accurately stated that as a child I did not
experience any religious indoctrination----other than protestant sunday
school. I know all about the idiot shit driven into the heads of innocent
Christian children. "THE PHARISEES rose to power" ???
yeah? right there in Roman occupied Judea? The Roman appointed
high priests --(sadducees) of the temple were "indulging in legalisms"----
and the term "Pharisee" means mean rotten inhumane bastard" Best of all---
"HILLEL WAS A REFORMER" Nope---Hillel was a Talmudist--- He had
some opposition-----but in issues you could not possibly grasp. At the time
of Jesus for DA JEWS who rejected the filth of YOUR UNIVERSE----ie
the roman world----HILLEL was DA MAN-----the PHARISEE man---just
as he was for Jesus. It's not your fault---you are the product of your
"culture" which has defined "Pharisee" as evil-----because the roman
emperor and the gladiator masters DESPISED THEM (and crucified the
Pharisee Jesus) -----Well---OF COURSE da joooos were desperate
to kill Jesus-----but somehow----MAGICALLY----could not manage to kill
a mild man who slept in their midst... so DA JOOOS forced the romans to
do it and the romans GRACIOUSLY complied because the joooos
CHEERED "kill him kill him"---------how is santa doing with his magic
reindeer? You read this stuff and managed to BELIEVE IT? You
are clueless.
Jesus "returned to the original"------sunday Sabbath for GLADIATOR
CIRCUS TIME. Tell me now about the issue of POSITION which was
GRABBED by the Pharisees--- Tell me about the RULING PHARISEES
at the time of jesus -------wallowing in wealth in the temple-----like your
sunday school bitch told you

lol more rubbish; it probalby deludes morons who have an even shallower knowledge, though, just by posting a lot of it to make it look like something.

 

[Picaro]

The person in verse 7 is the same person in verse 8. Read the Scriptures as they are written, not through the watchtower lens. Jesus is Jehovah.

The Watchtower is a cult with many false prophecies over the years. Ask your leaders who translated the New World Translation and I guarantee you they will not give you the names. Do your own research. They were 4 men, and only one of them had any knowledge of Hebrew and Greek. The NWT isn't a credible translation. Do the research.
Jehovah's Witnesses

The supposed scholars of Jesus day--taught-- It was impossible for Jesus and his apostles to be real teachers, they did not attend their schools of men. Jesus real teachers do not need the schools of men, the holy spirit gives them truth at the proper time. As set up by God and his son. I know 100% they are the teachers Jesus appointed.

who were the "supposed scholars of 'jesus day" ? Can you identify any of those 'supposed scholars' who evaluated 'jesus
and his apostles'? Please try to be, at least, a little specific.
Eg---the "supposed scholars were........." and "this is what
_________said about Jesus..." I am sure that you understand
that by the time Jesus was living-----most adult jewish males were
literate. I would GUESS that Jesus was literate

The only group on earth who ( were) Gods chosen)-- Israel. The Pharisees, saducees, most assuredly the scribes as well. God was trying to turn them around back to him--They rejected him and his Messiah--They were cut off-Matthew 23:37-39)
Jesus was Gods son, Was he literate.
The Israelite spiritual leaders, kept-EVERY written Law--They unfortunately took them to far. They had false reasoning concerning the messiah--They thought Jesus was coming then when he did, but thought a mighty king was coming to fight the romans and rid them of their rule. A mere carpenters son shows up telling them they are making many errors concerning the Laws of God and that he brought a new covenant-Love instead of written Law. They hated him and tried to kill him a few x. Those were Gods chosen scholars of the day.
It shows how powerful satan is--Jesus said satan rules this world( system of things)--No wonder the bible teaches---Beware if you think you are standing strong.

Actually only the Jews who promote the Covenant matter; the rest aren't 'chosen'. The people who are 'chosen' were chosen by grace, not race, or intelligence, or any other reason. Those that stop promoting the Covenants were either punished or abandoned, and the history make that very clear, as does the OT and NT itself; your are seriously mistaken if you think Gentiles can't be Jewish, and count, and it's a matter of race.

And, Jesus was very much an 'old school' Rabbi, all about returning to the original intent and Mosaic teachings, and brought with a new Covenant, since most of the Jews running the temples and the politics had long abandoned the Covenants and focused on themselves as a 'Master Race' and assigned themselves privileges and offices based on their genealogies, not their religion. The last 'prophet' sent was Malachi, some 300 years before the Christian era. The Pharisees rose to power in that time span, and other schools, like Hillel's, came along as reformers as well.

And no, the 'Israelites' were a separate Jewish tribe from that of Judah, and no, the spiritual leaders of the Temple were not keeping the law, they were merely indulging in 'legalisms', quit a different thing than keeping the spirit of Moses and their covenant. They turned it into a profit center and class status for themselves.

Did you miss this truth? Matthew 23:37-39--Israelite religion-cut off of being Gods chosen until they do verse 39 -they will not. Over 1950 years they have outright refused. The Pharisees in Jesus day saw the new religion begin-Acts 24:5--Revelation occurring right now-Jesus speaks to 7 congregations.

Again, you don't know who the 'Israelites' were, and it's obvious. they were a specific tribe, and the term is not a reference to all members of Jewish tribes. You really need to study more and not rely on simplisitc childrens' stories.

 

[kjw47]

The supposed scholars of Jesus day--taught-- It was impossible for Jesus and his apostles to be real teachers, they did not attend their schools of men. Jesus real teachers do not need the schools of men, the holy spirit gives them truth at the proper time. As set up by God and his son. I know 100% they are the teachers Jesus appointed.

who were the "supposed scholars of 'jesus day" ? Can you identify any of those 'supposed scholars' who evaluated 'jesus
and his apostles'? Please try to be, at least, a little specific.
Eg---the "supposed scholars were........." and "this is what
_________said about Jesus..." I am sure that you understand
that by the time Jesus was living-----most adult jewish males were
literate. I would GUESS that Jesus was literate

The only group on earth who ( were) Gods chosen)-- Israel. The Pharisees, saducees, most assuredly the scribes as well. God was trying to turn them around back to him--They rejected him and his Messiah--They were cut off-Matthew 23:37-39)
Jesus was Gods son, Was he literate.
The Israelite spiritual leaders, kept-EVERY written Law--They unfortunately took them to far. They had false reasoning concerning the messiah--They thought Jesus was coming then when he did, but thought a mighty king was coming to fight the romans and rid them of their rule. A mere carpenters son shows up telling them they are making many errors concerning the Laws of God and that he brought a new covenant-Love instead of written Law. They hated him and tried to kill him a few x. Those were Gods chosen scholars of the day.
It shows how powerful satan is--Jesus said satan rules this world( system of things)--No wonder the bible teaches---Beware if you think you are standing strong.

Actually only the Jews who promote the Covenant matter; the rest aren't 'chosen'. The people who are 'chosen' were chosen by grace, not race, or intelligence, or any other reason. Those that stop promoting the Covenants were either punished or abandoned, and the history make that very clear, as does the OT and NT itself; your are seriously mistaken if you think Gentiles can't be Jewish, and count, and it's a matter of race.

And, Jesus was very much an 'old school' Rabbi, all about returning to the original intent and Mosaic teachings, and brought with a new Covenant, since most of the Jews running the temples and the politics had long abandoned the Covenants and focused on themselves as a 'Master Race' and assigned themselves privileges and offices based on their genealogies, not their religion. The last 'prophet' sent was Malachi, some 300 years before the Christian era. The Pharisees rose to power in that time span, and other schools, like Hillel's, came along as reformers as well.

And no, the 'Israelites' were a separate Jewish tribe from that of Judah, and no, the spiritual leaders of the Temple were not keeping the law, they were merely indulging in 'legalisms', quit a different thing than keeping the spirit of Moses and their covenant. They turned it into a profit center and class status for themselves.

Did you miss this truth? Matthew 23:37-39--Israelite religion-cut off of being Gods chosen until they do verse 39 -they will not. Over 1950 years they have outright refused. The Pharisees in Jesus day saw the new religion begin-Acts 24:5--Revelation occurring right now-Jesus speaks to 7 congregations.

Again, you don't know who the 'Israelites' were, and it's obvious. they were a specific tribe, and the term is not a reference to all members of Jewish tribes. You really need to study more and not rely on simplisitc childrens' stories.

There were 12 tribes of Israel

 

[irosie91]

The person in verse 7 is the same person in verse 8. Read the Scriptures as they are written, not through the watchtower lens. Jesus is Jehovah.

The Watchtower is a cult with many false prophecies over the years. Ask your leaders who translated the New World Translation and I guarantee you they will not give you the names. Do your own research. They were 4 men, and only one of them had any knowledge of Hebrew and Greek. The NWT isn't a credible translation. Do the research.
Jehovah's Witnesses

The supposed scholars of Jesus day--taught-- It was impossible for Jesus and his apostles to be real teachers, they did not attend their schools of men. Jesus real teachers do not need the schools of men, the holy spirit gives them truth at the proper time. As set up by God and his son. I know 100% they are the teachers Jesus appointed.

who were the "supposed scholars of 'jesus day" ? Can you identify any of those 'supposed scholars' who evaluated 'jesus
and his apostles'? Please try to be, at least, a little specific.
Eg---the "supposed scholars were........." and "this is what
_________said about Jesus..." I am sure that you understand
that by the time Jesus was living-----most adult jewish males were
literate. I would GUESS that Jesus was literate

The only group on earth who ( were) Gods chosen)-- Israel. The Pharisees, saducees, most assuredly the scribes as well. God was trying to turn them around back to him--They rejected him and his Messiah--They were cut off-Matthew 23:37-39)
Jesus was Gods son, Was he literate.
The Israelite spiritual leaders, kept-EVERY written Law--They unfortunately took them to far. They had false reasoning concerning the messiah--They thought Jesus was coming then when he did, but thought a mighty king was coming to fight the romans and rid them of their rule. A mere carpenters son shows up telling them they are making many errors concerning the Laws of God and that he brought a new covenant-Love instead of written Law. They hated him and tried to kill him a few x. Those were Gods chosen scholars of the day.
It shows how powerful satan is--Jesus said satan rules this world( system of things)--No wonder the bible teaches---Beware if you think you are standing strong.

Actually only the Jews who promote the Covenant matter; the rest aren't 'chosen'. The people who are 'chosen' were chosen by grace, not race, or intelligence, or any other reason. Those that stop promoting the Covenants were either punished or abandoned, and the history make that very clear, as does the OT and NT itself; your are seriously mistaken if you think Gentiles can't be Jewish, and count, and it's a matter of race.

And, Jesus was very much an 'old school' Rabbi, all about returning to the original intent and Mosaic teachings, and brought with a new Covenant, since most of the Jews running the temples and the politics had long abandoned the Covenants and focused on themselves as a 'Master Race' and assigned themselves privileges and offices based on their genealogies, not their religion. The last 'prophet' sent was Malachi, some 300 years before the Christian era. The Pharisees rose to power in that time span, and other schools, like Hillel's, came along as reformers as well.

And no, the 'Israelites' were a separate Jewish tribe from that of Judah, and no, the spiritual leaders of the Temple were not keeping the law, they were merely indulging in 'legalisms', quit a different thing than keeping the spirit of Moses and their covenant. They turned it into a profit center and class status for themselves.

Did you miss this truth? Matthew 23:37-39--Israelite religion-cut off of being Gods chosen until they do verse 39 -they will not. Over 1950 years they have outright refused. The Pharisees in Jesus day saw the new religion begin-Acts 24:5--Revelation occurring right now-Jesus speaks to 7 congregations.

OH Matthew, the shill for ROME said so. and the next citation is the
mushroom charged book of the ANNONYMOUS JOHN-----the BOOK OF
REVULSIONS.... and then of all things "ACTS" ---written more than a half
century after jesus died------by people who did not even speak Hebrew or
or Aramaic-------- QUOTING *) allah only knows who-------as to what
""JESUS SAID"" of the now scattered and DESPISES Pharisees "said"

try using your head. You are quoting the agenda of constantine

 

[irosie91]

The supposed scholars of Jesus day--taught-- It was impossible for Jesus and his apostles to be real teachers, they did not attend their schools of men. Jesus real teachers do not need the schools of men, the holy spirit gives them truth at the proper time. As set up by God and his son. I know 100% they are the teachers Jesus appointed.

who were the "supposed scholars of 'jesus day" ? Can you identify any of those 'supposed scholars' who evaluated 'jesus
and his apostles'? Please try to be, at least, a little specific.
Eg---the "supposed scholars were........." and "this is what
_________said about Jesus..." I am sure that you understand
that by the time Jesus was living-----most adult jewish males were
literate. I would GUESS that Jesus was literate

The only group on earth who ( were) Gods chosen)-- Israel. The Pharisees, saducees, most assuredly the scribes as well. God was trying to turn them around back to him--They rejected him and his Messiah--They were cut off-Matthew 23:37-39)
Jesus was Gods son, Was he literate.
The Israelite spiritual leaders, kept-EVERY written Law--They unfortunately took them to far. They had false reasoning concerning the messiah--They thought Jesus was coming then when he did, but thought a mighty king was coming to fight the romans and rid them of their rule. A mere carpenters son shows up telling them they are making many errors concerning the Laws of God and that he brought a new covenant-Love instead of written Law. They hated him and tried to kill him a few x. Those were Gods chosen scholars of the day.
It shows how powerful satan is--Jesus said satan rules this world( system of things)--No wonder the bible teaches---Beware if you think you are standing strong.

Actually only the Jews who promote the Covenant matter; the rest aren't 'chosen'. The people who are 'chosen' were chosen by grace, not race, or intelligence, or any other reason. Those that stop promoting the Covenants were either punished or abandoned, and the history make that very clear, as does the OT and NT itself; your are seriously mistaken if you think Gentiles can't be Jewish, and count, and it's a matter of race.

And, Jesus was very much an 'old school' Rabbi, all about returning to the original intent and Mosaic teachings, and brought with a new Covenant, since most of the Jews running the temples and the politics had long abandoned the Covenants and focused on themselves as a 'Master Race' and assigned themselves privileges and offices based on their genealogies, not their religion. The last 'prophet' sent was Malachi, some 300 years before the Christian era. The Pharisees rose to power in that time span, and other schools, like Hillel's, came along as reformers as well.

And no, the 'Israelites' were a separate Jewish tribe from that of Judah, and no, the spiritual leaders of the Temple were not keeping the law, they were merely indulging in 'legalisms', quit a different thing than keeping the spirit of Moses and their covenant. They turned it into a profit center and class status for themselves.

Try again-----you forgot---I accurately stated that as a child I did not
experience any religious indoctrination----other than protestant sunday
school. I know all about the idiot shit driven into the heads of innocent
Christian children. "THE PHARISEES rose to power" ???
yeah? right there in Roman occupied Judea? The Roman appointed
high priests --(sadducees) of the temple were "indulging in legalisms"----
and the term "Pharisee" means mean rotten inhumane bastard" Best of all---
"HILLEL WAS A REFORMER" Nope---Hillel was a Talmudist--- He had
some opposition-----but in issues you could not possibly grasp. At the time
of Jesus for DA JEWS who rejected the filth of YOUR UNIVERSE----ie
the roman world----HILLEL was DA MAN-----the PHARISEE man---just
as he was for Jesus. It's not your fault---you are the product of your
"culture" which has defined "Pharisee" as evil-----because the roman
emperor and the gladiator masters DESPISED THEM (and crucified the
Pharisee Jesus) -----Well---OF COURSE da joooos were desperate
to kill Jesus-----but somehow----MAGICALLY----could not manage to kill
a mild man who slept in their midst... so DA JOOOS forced the romans to
do it and the romans GRACIOUSLY complied because the joooos
CHEERED "kill him kill him"---------how is santa doing with his magic
reindeer? You read this stuff and managed to BELIEVE IT? You
are clueless.
Jesus "returned to the original"------sunday Sabbath for GLADIATOR
CIRCUS TIME. Tell me now about the issue of POSITION which was
GRABBED by the Pharisees--- Tell me about the RULING PHARISEES
at the time of jesus -------wallowing in wealth in the temple-----like your
sunday school bitch told you

lol more rubbish; it probalby deludes morons who have an even shallower knowledge, though, just by posting a lot of it to make it look like something.

is that the best you can do PIC?

 

[BS Filter]

Those verses say nothing about your irrational false claim that people will live forever on earth one day...


That is not the good news of Gods kingdom, That is a delusion of the deranged.

Jesus himself mentioned one can get eternal life by knowing his Father as the only true God and knowing Jesus-- John 17:1-6,26-- That name= YHWH(Jehovah)
Not wise to call Jesus the liar in your darkness.
The bible teaches those things about Gods kingdom, in every translation on earth--You must have forgot to read the bible.

What Jesus said equating eternal life with knowing God has absolutely nothing with what you are saying that in the future people will never get sick, feel pain, or die physical deaths and will live on earth forever.

Thats pure rubbish. Even Jesus, like all human beings must, died a physical death.

I am not calling Jesus a liar.

I am calling you a liar.

The Ot made many promises about Gods kingdom on the earth. It says they will never say I am sick--A lion lays with a lamb=harmony amongst all creatures--A child will play on a cobra hole and no harm will come to him. Food will overflow the mountains--meaning enough for all always. Its just as my post said--Gods kingdom is a cure all-- God created mortals to know only good. The 3 rebels in Eden caused this system, it is almost done.

Well, all of those promises had contingencies and expectations attached to them and those who failed to hold up their end of the deal broke the deal, period, so we can dispense with the fiction that all Jews are 'special' and all Jews have to be born Jews, for one; Xians are as Jewish as any other as far as the covenants, old and new, go.

The real Christians serve the God of Israel= a single being God named-YHWH( Jehovah) and accept Jesus as the one sent forth by God-The Messiah.

The real Christians believe their Bible is the Word of God, not the Watchtower. The Watchtower has proven to be a false prophet. All I need for salvation is faith in Jesus Christ. That's what Jesus Said. That's what Paul said. That's what Peter said. That's what James said. That's what John said. They are right, not the Watchtower.

 

[kjw47]

The supposed scholars of Jesus day--taught-- It was impossible for Jesus and his apostles to be real teachers, they did not attend their schools of men. Jesus real teachers do not need the schools of men, the holy spirit gives them truth at the proper time. As set up by God and his son. I know 100% they are the teachers Jesus appointed.

who were the "supposed scholars of 'jesus day" ? Can you identify any of those 'supposed scholars' who evaluated 'jesus
and his apostles'? Please try to be, at least, a little specific.
Eg---the "supposed scholars were........." and "this is what
_________said about Jesus..." I am sure that you understand
that by the time Jesus was living-----most adult jewish males were
literate. I would GUESS that Jesus was literate

The only group on earth who ( were) Gods chosen)-- Israel. The Pharisees, saducees, most assuredly the scribes as well. God was trying to turn them around back to him--They rejected him and his Messiah--They were cut off-Matthew 23:37-39)
Jesus was Gods son, Was he literate.
The Israelite spiritual leaders, kept-EVERY written Law--They unfortunately took them to far. They had false reasoning concerning the messiah--They thought Jesus was coming then when he did, but thought a mighty king was coming to fight the romans and rid them of their rule. A mere carpenters son shows up telling them they are making many errors concerning the Laws of God and that he brought a new covenant-Love instead of written Law. They hated him and tried to kill him a few x. Those were Gods chosen scholars of the day.
It shows how powerful satan is--Jesus said satan rules this world( system of things)--No wonder the bible teaches---Beware if you think you are standing strong.

Actually only the Jews who promote the Covenant matter; the rest aren't 'chosen'. The people who are 'chosen' were chosen by grace, not race, or intelligence, or any other reason. Those that stop promoting the Covenants were either punished or abandoned, and the history make that very clear, as does the OT and NT itself; your are seriously mistaken if you think Gentiles can't be Jewish, and count, and it's a matter of race.

And, Jesus was very much an 'old school' Rabbi, all about returning to the original intent and Mosaic teachings, and brought with a new Covenant, since most of the Jews running the temples and the politics had long abandoned the Covenants and focused on themselves as a 'Master Race' and assigned themselves privileges and offices based on their genealogies, not their religion. The last 'prophet' sent was Malachi, some 300 years before the Christian era. The Pharisees rose to power in that time span, and other schools, like Hillel's, came along as reformers as well.

And no, the 'Israelites' were a separate Jewish tribe from that of Judah, and no, the spiritual leaders of the Temple were not keeping the law, they were merely indulging in 'legalisms', quit a different thing than keeping the spirit of Moses and their covenant. They turned it into a profit center and class status for themselves.

Did you miss this truth? Matthew 23:37-39--Israelite religion-cut off of being Gods chosen until they do verse 39 -they will not. Over 1950 years they have outright refused. The Pharisees in Jesus day saw the new religion begin-Acts 24:5--Revelation occurring right now-Jesus speaks to 7 congregations.

OH Matthew, the shill for ROME said so. and the next citation is the
mushroom charged book of the ANNONYMOUS JOHN-----the BOOK OF
REVULSIONS.... and then of all things "ACTS" ---written more than a half
century after jesus died------by people who did not even speak Hebrew or
or Aramaic-------- QUOTING *) allah only knows who-------as to what
""JESUS SAID"" of the now scattered and DESPISES Pharisees "said"

try using your head. You are quoting the agenda of constantine

Have no fear Rosie--My teachers corrected the errors in translation.

 

[kjw47]

Jesus himself mentioned one can get eternal life by knowing his Father as the only true God and knowing Jesus-- John 17:1-6,26-- That name= YHWH(Jehovah)
Not wise to call Jesus the liar in your darkness.
The bible teaches those things about Gods kingdom, in every translation on earth--You must have forgot to read the bible.

What Jesus said equating eternal life with knowing God has absolutely nothing with what you are saying that in the future people will never get sick, feel pain, or die physical deaths and will live on earth forever.

Thats pure rubbish. Even Jesus, like all human beings must, died a physical death.

I am not calling Jesus a liar.

I am calling you a liar.

The Ot made many promises about Gods kingdom on the earth. It says they will never say I am sick--A lion lays with a lamb=harmony amongst all creatures--A child will play on a cobra hole and no harm will come to him. Food will overflow the mountains--meaning enough for all always. Its just as my post said--Gods kingdom is a cure all-- God created mortals to know only good. The 3 rebels in Eden caused this system, it is almost done.

Well, all of those promises had contingencies and expectations attached to them and those who failed to hold up their end of the deal broke the deal, period, so we can dispense with the fiction that all Jews are 'special' and all Jews have to be born Jews, for one; Xians are as Jewish as any other as far as the covenants, old and new, go.

The real Christians serve the God of Israel= a single being God named-YHWH( Jehovah) and accept Jesus as the one sent forth by God-The Messiah.

The real Christians believe their Bible is the Word of God, not the Watchtower. The Watchtower has proven to be a false prophet. All I need for salvation is faith in Jesus Christ. That's what Jesus Said. That's what Paul said. That's what Peter said. That's what James said. That's what John said. They are right, not the Watchtower.

All the errors were corrected--so by refusing to forgive anothefrs past--God will fail to forgive your past--that's how that works--Do you still wish to live in 100 year old errors or forgive ones who have corrected? Its 2018---its NOW that counts.
Just like in your youth you lived to sin-- should God look at that still if you repented? No--same goes with the JW teachings.
Yu see all other religions failed to heed Gods warning---Beware if you think you are standing strong.

 

[irosie91]

who were the "supposed scholars of 'jesus day" ? Can you identify any of those 'supposed scholars' who evaluated 'jesus
and his apostles'? Please try to be, at least, a little specific.
Eg---the "supposed scholars were........." and "this is what
_________said about Jesus..." I am sure that you understand
that by the time Jesus was living-----most adult jewish males were
literate. I would GUESS that Jesus was literate

The only group on earth who ( were) Gods chosen)-- Israel. The Pharisees, saducees, most assuredly the scribes as well. God was trying to turn them around back to him--They rejected him and his Messiah--They were cut off-Matthew 23:37-39)
Jesus was Gods son, Was he literate.
The Israelite spiritual leaders, kept-EVERY written Law--They unfortunately took them to far. They had false reasoning concerning the messiah--They thought Jesus was coming then when he did, but thought a mighty king was coming to fight the romans and rid them of their rule. A mere carpenters son shows up telling them they are making many errors concerning the Laws of God and that he brought a new covenant-Love instead of written Law. They hated him and tried to kill him a few x. Those were Gods chosen scholars of the day.
It shows how powerful satan is--Jesus said satan rules this world( system of things)--No wonder the bible teaches---Beware if you think you are standing strong.

Actually only the Jews who promote the Covenant matter; the rest aren't 'chosen'. The people who are 'chosen' were chosen by grace, not race, or intelligence, or any other reason. Those that stop promoting the Covenants were either punished or abandoned, and the history make that very clear, as does the OT and NT itself; your are seriously mistaken if you think Gentiles can't be Jewish, and count, and it's a matter of race.

And, Jesus was very much an 'old school' Rabbi, all about returning to the original intent and Mosaic teachings, and brought with a new Covenant, since most of the Jews running the temples and the politics had long abandoned the Covenants and focused on themselves as a 'Master Race' and assigned themselves privileges and offices based on their genealogies, not their religion. The last 'prophet' sent was Malachi, some 300 years before the Christian era. The Pharisees rose to power in that time span, and other schools, like Hillel's, came along as reformers as well.

And no, the 'Israelites' were a separate Jewish tribe from that of Judah, and no, the spiritual leaders of the Temple were not keeping the law, they were merely indulging in 'legalisms', quit a different thing than keeping the spirit of Moses and their covenant. They turned it into a profit center and class status for themselves.

Did you miss this truth? Matthew 23:37-39--Israelite religion-cut off of being Gods chosen until they do verse 39 -they will not. Over 1950 years they have outright refused. The Pharisees in Jesus day saw the new religion begin-Acts 24:5--Revelation occurring right now-Jesus speaks to 7 congregations.

OH Matthew, the shill for ROME said so. and the next citation is the
mushroom charged book of the ANNONYMOUS JOHN-----the BOOK OF
REVULSIONS.... and then of all things "ACTS" ---written more than a half
century after jesus died------by people who did not even speak Hebrew or
or Aramaic-------- QUOTING *) allah only knows who-------as to what
""JESUS SAID"" of the now scattered and DESPISES Pharisees "said"

try using your head. You are quoting the agenda of constantine

Have no fear Rosie--My teachers corrected the errors in translation.

what errors in translation?-----from what language to what language?

 

[hobelim]

Ok..Thanks. I wasn't mistaken. You guys are blubbering about something else having been diverted by Satan with specious falsehoods and superstitious archaic lore.

The death that will be no more is the death associated with setting aside the law of God, as it says in rev. 22:3

"No longer will there be any curse."

The earth will remain exactly as it has always been. People will live and die, except without the type of confusion that leads you expect in your unrestrained imagination that people will one day live forever on earth.

The wolf laying down with the lamb is a metaphor for nations coexisting in peace. The prophecy is not and never was about nature itself changing one bit.

You are wrong. Deut 30:19-- John 17:3

Those verses say nothing about your irrational false claim that people will live forever on earth one day...


That is not the good news of Gods kingdom, That is a delusion of the deranged.

Jesus himself mentioned one can get eternal life by knowing his Father as the only true God and knowing Jesus-- John 17:1-6,26-- That name= YHWH(Jehovah)
Not wise to call Jesus the liar in your darkness.
The bible teaches those things about Gods kingdom, in every translation on earth--You must have forgot to read the bible.

What Jesus said equating eternal life with knowing God has absolutely nothing with what you are saying that in the future people will never get sick, feel pain, or die physical deaths and will live on earth forever.

Thats pure rubbish. Even Jesus, like all human beings must, died a physical death.

I am not calling Jesus a liar.

I am calling you a liar.

The Ot made many promises about Gods kingdom on the earth. It says they will never say I am sick--A lion lays with a lamb=harmony amongst all creatures--A child will play on a cobra hole and no harm will come to him. Food will overflow the mountains--meaning enough for all always. Its just as my post said--Gods kingdom is a cure all-- God created mortals to know only good. The 3 rebels in Eden caused this system, it is almost done.

The lion laying down with the lamb is a metaphor for nations coexisting in peace. The subject of the prophecy in scripture about harmony amongst all creatures on earth is harmony among all people on earth. lions lambs sheep goats wolves cattle, dogs swine dingbats brown nosed dorks etc,.The prophecy is not and never was about nature itself changing one bit. Its about the nature of man being transformed.

When it says that death will be no more it is the death associated with defying the law of God, the law given as a light to the nations as a way to establish lasting peace on earth.

People will still live and die, the crippling sicknesses of the mind and associated pain from all of the confusion consequent to setting aside the instruction of the law is the suffering and "the death" that will be no more.

Remember what Moses said? "I have given you a choice between life and death, a choice between a blessing or a curse."



"And there will no longer be any curse" revelation 22:3


thats the good news. thats how Jesus removed the burden of the law - by teaching the only right way to understand and conform to the laws demands that fulfills the promise of eternal life and entry into Gods kingdom while still on earth,.

There is no waiting for Gods kingdom to come. Nebuchadnezzar raised his eyes after seven years living like a dumb beast without enough sense to get out of the rain and saw the kingdom of God in power over the affairs of men thousands of years ago.

You just have to stop living like a dumb animal. then you too will see the kingdom of God has already come and is already in full force and has been for a very very very long time.

 

[irosie91]

[

You are wrong. Deut 30:19-- John 17:3

Those verses say nothing about your irrational false claim that people will live forever on earth one day...


That is not the good news of Gods kingdom, That is a delusion of the deranged.

Jesus himself mentioned one can get eternal life by knowing his Father as the only true God and knowing Jesus-- John 17:1-6,26-- That name= YHWH(Jehovah)
Not wise to call Jesus the liar in your darkness.
The bible teaches those things about Gods kingdom, in every translation on earth--You must have forgot to read the bible.

What Jesus said equating eternal life with knowing God has absolutely nothing with what you are saying that in the future people will never get sick, feel pain, or die physical deaths and will live on earth forever.

Thats pure rubbish. Even Jesus, like all human beings must, died a physical death.

I am not calling Jesus a liar.

I am calling you a liar.

The Ot made many promises about Gods kingdom on the earth. It says they will never say I am sick--A lion lays with a lamb=harmony amongst all creatures--A child will play on a cobra hole and no harm will come to him. Food will overflow the mountains--meaning enough for all always. Its just as my post said--Gods kingdom is a cure all-- God created mortals to know only good. The 3 rebels in Eden caused this system, it is almost done.

The lion laying down with the lamb is a metaphor for nations coexisting in peace. The subject of the prophecy in scripture about harmony amongst all creatures on earth is harmony among all people on earth. lions lambs sheep goats dingbats brown nosed dorks etc,.The prophecy is not and never was about nature itself changing one bit. Its about the nature of man being transformed.

When it says that death will be no more it is the death associated with defying the law of God, the law given as a light to the nations as a way to establish lasting peace on earth.

People will still live and die, the crippling sicknesses of the mind and associated pain from all of the confusion consequent to setting aside the instruction of the law is the suffering and "the death" that will be no more.

Remember what Moses said? "I have given you a choice between life and death, a choice between a blessing or a curse."



"And there will no longer be any curse" revelation 22:3


thats the good news. thats how Jesus removed the burden of the law - by teaching the only right way to understand and conform to the laws demands that fulfills the promise of eternal life and entry into Gods kingdom while still on earth,.

your conclusion makes no sense HOBIE-------how does the prophecy of
Isaiah ----which refers to the "golden age ushered in by the 'messiah'
constitute Jesus 'removing the burden of the law' ??? Isaiah did not
abolish "the law"------neither did Jesus. As to "burden of the law"----that
is a roman construct------based on the Roman love of their foreskins and
pig dinners and irritation over washing one's hands before supper

 

[hobelim]

[

Those verses say nothing about your irrational false claim that people will live forever on earth one day...


That is not the good news of Gods kingdom, That is a delusion of the deranged.

Jesus himself mentioned one can get eternal life by knowing his Father as the only true God and knowing Jesus-- John 17:1-6,26-- That name= YHWH(Jehovah)
Not wise to call Jesus the liar in your darkness.
The bible teaches those things about Gods kingdom, in every translation on earth--You must have forgot to read the bible.

What Jesus said equating eternal life with knowing God has absolutely nothing with what you are saying that in the future people will never get sick, feel pain, or die physical deaths and will live on earth forever.

Thats pure rubbish. Even Jesus, like all human beings must, died a physical death.

I am not calling Jesus a liar.

I am calling you a liar.

The Ot made many promises about Gods kingdom on the earth. It says they will never say I am sick--A lion lays with a lamb=harmony amongst all creatures--A child will play on a cobra hole and no harm will come to him. Food will overflow the mountains--meaning enough for all always. Its just as my post said--Gods kingdom is a cure all-- God created mortals to know only good. The 3 rebels in Eden caused this system, it is almost done.

The lion laying down with the lamb is a metaphor for nations coexisting in peace. The subject of the prophecy in scripture about harmony amongst all creatures on earth is harmony among all people on earth. lions lambs sheep goats dingbats brown nosed dorks etc,.The prophecy is not and never was about nature itself changing one bit. Its about the nature of man being transformed.

When it says that death will be no more it is the death associated with defying the law of God, the law given as a light to the nations as a way to establish lasting peace on earth.

People will still live and die, the crippling sicknesses of the mind and associated pain from all of the confusion consequent to setting aside the instruction of the law is the suffering and "the death" that will be no more.

Remember what Moses said? "I have given you a choice between life and death, a choice between a blessing or a curse."



"And there will no longer be any curse" revelation 22:3


thats the good news. thats how Jesus removed the burden of the law - by teaching the only right way to understand and conform to the laws demands that fulfills the promise of eternal life and entry into Gods kingdom while still on earth,.

your conclusion makes no sense HOBIE-------how does the prophecy of
Isaiah ----which refers to the "golden age ushered in by the 'messiah'
constitute Jesus 'removing the burden of the law' ??? Isaiah did not
abolish "the law"------neither did Jesus. As to "burden of the law"----that
is a roman construct------based on the Roman love of their foreskins and
pig dinners and irritation over washing one's hands before supper

The burden of the law is the death consequent for failure to comply with it. Even complying with the law in the wrong way results in the same burden as not even trying to comply at all, death.

thats the good news rosie. thats how Jesus removed the burden of the law - by teaching the only right way to understand and conform to the laws demands that fulfills the promise of eternal life and entry into Gods kingdom while still on earth,.

There is no waiting for Gods kingdom to come. Nebuchadnezzar raised his eyes after seven years living like a dumb beast without enough sense to get out of the rain and saw the kingdom of God in power over the affairs of men thousands of years ago.

You just have to stop living like a dumb animal. then you too will see the kingdom of God has already come and is already in full force and has been for a very very very long time.

 

[irosie91]

[

Jesus himself mentioned one can get eternal life by knowing his Father as the only true God and knowing Jesus-- John 17:1-6,26-- That name= YHWH(Jehovah)
Not wise to call Jesus the liar in your darkness.
The bible teaches those things about Gods kingdom, in every translation on earth--You must have forgot to read the bible.

What Jesus said equating eternal life with knowing God has absolutely nothing with what you are saying that in the future people will never get sick, feel pain, or die physical deaths and will live on earth forever.

Thats pure rubbish. Even Jesus, like all human beings must, died a physical death.

I am not calling Jesus a liar.

I am calling you a liar.

The Ot made many promises about Gods kingdom on the earth. It says they will never say I am sick--A lion lays with a lamb=harmony amongst all creatures--A child will play on a cobra hole and no harm will come to him. Food will overflow the mountains--meaning enough for all always. Its just as my post said--Gods kingdom is a cure all-- God created mortals to know only good. The 3 rebels in Eden caused this system, it is almost done.

The lion laying down with the lamb is a metaphor for nations coexisting in peace. The subject of the prophecy in scripture about harmony amongst all creatures on earth is harmony among all people on earth. lions lambs sheep goats dingbats brown nosed dorks etc,.The prophecy is not and never was about nature itself changing one bit. Its about the nature of man being transformed.

When it says that death will be no more it is the death associated with defying the law of God, the law given as a light to the nations as a way to establish lasting peace on earth.

People will still live and die, the crippling sicknesses of the mind and associated pain from all of the confusion consequent to setting aside the instruction of the law is the suffering and "the death" that will be no more.

Remember what Moses said? "I have given you a choice between life and death, a choice between a blessing or a curse."



"And there will no longer be any curse" revelation 22:3


thats the good news. thats how Jesus removed the burden of the law - by teaching the only right way to understand and conform to the laws demands that fulfills the promise of eternal life and entry into Gods kingdom while still on earth,.

your conclusion makes no sense HOBIE-------how does the prophecy of
Isaiah ----which refers to the "golden age ushered in by the 'messiah'
constitute Jesus 'removing the burden of the law' ??? Isaiah did not
abolish "the law"------neither did Jesus. As to "burden of the law"----that
is a roman construct------based on the Roman love of their foreskins and
pig dinners and irritation over washing one's hands before supper

The burden of the law is the death consequent for failure to comply with it. Even complying with the law in the wrong way results in the same burden as not even trying to comply at all, death.

Jesus removed the burden of the law, death, by teaching and demonstrating the only right way to understand and conform to the will of God that fulfills the promise of eternal life..

you are confused by the term "death" as used in the poetry AND LAWs
of the OT. In most cases it has nothing to do with Judicial execution.

 

[hobelim]

[

What Jesus said equating eternal life with knowing God has absolutely nothing with what you are saying that in the future people will never get sick, feel pain, or die physical deaths and will live on earth forever.

Thats pure rubbish. Even Jesus, like all human beings must, died a physical death.

I am not calling Jesus a liar.

I am calling you a liar.

The Ot made many promises about Gods kingdom on the earth. It says they will never say I am sick--A lion lays with a lamb=harmony amongst all creatures--A child will play on a cobra hole and no harm will come to him. Food will overflow the mountains--meaning enough for all always. Its just as my post said--Gods kingdom is a cure all-- God created mortals to know only good. The 3 rebels in Eden caused this system, it is almost done.

The lion laying down with the lamb is a metaphor for nations coexisting in peace. The subject of the prophecy in scripture about harmony amongst all creatures on earth is harmony among all people on earth. lions lambs sheep goats dingbats brown nosed dorks etc,.The prophecy is not and never was about nature itself changing one bit. Its about the nature of man being transformed.

When it says that death will be no more it is the death associated with defying the law of God, the law given as a light to the nations as a way to establish lasting peace on earth.

People will still live and die, the crippling sicknesses of the mind and associated pain from all of the confusion consequent to setting aside the instruction of the law is the suffering and "the death" that will be no more.

Remember what Moses said? "I have given you a choice between life and death, a choice between a blessing or a curse."



"And there will no longer be any curse" revelation 22:3


thats the good news. thats how Jesus removed the burden of the law - by teaching the only right way to understand and conform to the laws demands that fulfills the promise of eternal life and entry into Gods kingdom while still on earth,.

your conclusion makes no sense HOBIE-------how does the prophecy of
Isaiah ----which refers to the "golden age ushered in by the 'messiah'
constitute Jesus 'removing the burden of the law' ??? Isaiah did not
abolish "the law"------neither did Jesus. As to "burden of the law"----that
is a roman construct------based on the Roman love of their foreskins and
pig dinners and irritation over washing one's hands before supper

The burden of the law is the death consequent for failure to comply with it. Even complying with the law in the wrong way results in the same burden as not even trying to comply at all, death.

Jesus removed the burden of the law, death, by teaching and demonstrating the only right way to understand and conform to the will of God that fulfills the promise of eternal life..

you are confused by the term "death" as used in the poetry AND LAWs
of the OT. In most cases it has nothing to do with Judicial execution.

If you thought that I was speaking about judicial execution, you are the one who is confused.

 

[irosie91]

[

The Ot made many promises about Gods kingdom on the earth. It says they will never say I am sick--A lion lays with a lamb=harmony amongst all creatures--A child will play on a cobra hole and no harm will come to him. Food will overflow the mountains--meaning enough for all always. Its just as my post said--Gods kingdom is a cure all-- God created mortals to know only good. The 3 rebels in Eden caused this system, it is almost done.

The lion laying down with the lamb is a metaphor for nations coexisting in peace. The subject of the prophecy in scripture about harmony amongst all creatures on earth is harmony among all people on earth. lions lambs sheep goats dingbats brown nosed dorks etc,.The prophecy is not and never was about nature itself changing one bit. Its about the nature of man being transformed.

When it says that death will be no more it is the death associated with defying the law of God, the law given as a light to the nations as a way to establish lasting peace on earth.

People will still live and die, the crippling sicknesses of the mind and associated pain from all of the confusion consequent to setting aside the instruction of the law is the suffering and "the death" that will be no more.

Remember what Moses said? "I have given you a choice between life and death, a choice between a blessing or a curse."



"And there will no longer be any curse" revelation 22:3


thats the good news. thats how Jesus removed the burden of the law - by teaching the only right way to understand and conform to the laws demands that fulfills the promise of eternal life and entry into Gods kingdom while still on earth,.

your conclusion makes no sense HOBIE-------how does the prophecy of
Isaiah ----which refers to the "golden age ushered in by the 'messiah'
constitute Jesus 'removing the burden of the law' ??? Isaiah did not
abolish "the law"------neither did Jesus. As to "burden of the law"----that
is a roman construct------based on the Roman love of their foreskins and
pig dinners and irritation over washing one's hands before supper

The burden of the law is the death consequent for failure to comply with it. Even complying with the law in the wrong way results in the same burden as not even trying to comply at all, death.

Jesus removed the burden of the law, death, by teaching and demonstrating the only right way to understand and conform to the will of God that fulfills the promise of eternal life..

you are confused by the term "death" as used in the poetry AND LAWs
of the OT. In most cases it has nothing to do with Judicial execution.

If you thought that I was speaking about judicial execution, you are the one who is confused.

you did use the term "death" -----which---AS YOU KNOW---seems in the
minds of lots of people as mass executions for minor flaws in practice of
ritual. So what burden did Jesus magically obliterate?

 

[hobelim]

[

The lion laying down with the lamb is a metaphor for nations coexisting in peace. The subject of the prophecy in scripture about harmony amongst all creatures on earth is harmony among all people on earth. lions lambs sheep goats dingbats brown nosed dorks etc,.The prophecy is not and never was about nature itself changing one bit. Its about the nature of man being transformed.

When it says that death will be no more it is the death associated with defying the law of God, the law given as a light to the nations as a way to establish lasting peace on earth.

People will still live and die, the crippling sicknesses of the mind and associated pain from all of the confusion consequent to setting aside the instruction of the law is the suffering and "the death" that will be no more.

Remember what Moses said? "I have given you a choice between life and death, a choice between a blessing or a curse."



"And there will no longer be any curse" revelation 22:3


thats the good news. thats how Jesus removed the burden of the law - by teaching the only right way to understand and conform to the laws demands that fulfills the promise of eternal life and entry into Gods kingdom while still on earth,.

your conclusion makes no sense HOBIE-------how does the prophecy of
Isaiah ----which refers to the "golden age ushered in by the 'messiah'
constitute Jesus 'removing the burden of the law' ??? Isaiah did not
abolish "the law"------neither did Jesus. As to "burden of the law"----that
is a roman construct------based on the Roman love of their foreskins and
pig dinners and irritation over washing one's hands before supper

The burden of the law is the death consequent for failure to comply with it. Even complying with the law in the wrong way results in the same burden as not even trying to comply at all, death.

Jesus removed the burden of the law, death, by teaching and demonstrating the only right way to understand and conform to the will of God that fulfills the promise of eternal life..

you are confused by the term "death" as used in the poetry AND LAWs
of the OT. In most cases it has nothing to do with Judicial execution.

If you thought that I was speaking about judicial execution, you are the one who is confused.

you did use the term "death" -----which---AS YOU KNOW---seems in the
minds of lots of people as mass executions for minor flaws in practice of
ritual. So what burden did Jesus magically obliterate?

Jesus removed the burden of the law - by teaching the only right way to understand and conform to the laws demands that fulfills the promise of eternal life and entry into Gods kingdom while still on earth.


That Jesus ascended into heaven the realm of eternal life implies that he started off in the realm of the dead, worrying about washing hands and what to eat and wear and how to correctly tie a box on the head.

 

[irosie91]

[
your conclusion makes no sense HOBIE-------how does the prophecy of
Isaiah ----which refers to the "golden age ushered in by the 'messiah'
constitute Jesus 'removing the burden of the law' ??? Isaiah did not
abolish "the law"------neither did Jesus. As to "burden of the law"----that
is a roman construct------based on the Roman love of their foreskins and
pig dinners and irritation over washing one's hands before supper

The burden of the law is the death consequent for failure to comply with it. Even complying with the law in the wrong way results in the same burden as not even trying to comply at all, death.

Jesus removed the burden of the law, death, by teaching and demonstrating the only right way to understand and conform to the will of God that fulfills the promise of eternal life..

you are confused by the term "death" as used in the poetry AND LAWs
of the OT. In most cases it has nothing to do with Judicial execution.

If you thought that I was speaking about judicial execution, you are the one who is confused.

you did use the term "death" -----which---AS YOU KNOW---seems in the
minds of lots of people as mass executions for minor flaws in practice of
ritual. So what burden did Jesus magically obliterate?

Jesus removed the burden of the law - by teaching the only right way to understand and conform to the laws demands that fulfills the promise of eternal life and entry into Gods kingdom while still on earth.


That Jesus ascended into heaven the realm of eternal life implies that he started off in the realm of the dead, worrying about washing hands and what to eat and wear and how to correctly tie a box on the head.

you are desperate. Jesus WORRIED about washing his hands ? GOOD!!! In my profession---renewal of license REQUIRES special
lessons in HAND WASHING--------I live in the realm of the dead. The lessons
include such concepts as 'WORRY ABOUT COLLEAGUES THAT DO NOT
WASH THEIR HANDS'. I used to love to watch my dad get dressed in
the morning-------the manner in which he TIED HIS TIE-----fascinated me----
then he placed a tie clip and was VERY careful to place it so that there is a little tiny hump over the clip ----involving the top leaf-----SNAZZY. -------I can do some knots that ordinary people like you do not know------it is very
important and can sometimes SAVE A LIFE.

For the record------take care to wash your hands and make sure that there
arer fresh towels in the bathroom

 

[BS Filter]

What Jesus said equating eternal life with knowing God has absolutely nothing with what you are saying that in the future people will never get sick, feel pain, or die physical deaths and will live on earth forever.

Thats pure rubbish. Even Jesus, like all human beings must, died a physical death.

I am not calling Jesus a liar.

I am calling you a liar.

The Ot made many promises about Gods kingdom on the earth. It says they will never say I am sick--A lion lays with a lamb=harmony amongst all creatures--A child will play on a cobra hole and no harm will come to him. Food will overflow the mountains--meaning enough for all always. Its just as my post said--Gods kingdom is a cure all-- God created mortals to know only good. The 3 rebels in Eden caused this system, it is almost done.

Well, all of those promises had contingencies and expectations attached to them and those who failed to hold up their end of the deal broke the deal, period, so we can dispense with the fiction that all Jews are 'special' and all Jews have to be born Jews, for one; Xians are as Jewish as any other as far as the covenants, old and new, go.

The real Christians serve the God of Israel= a single being God named-YHWH( Jehovah) and accept Jesus as the one sent forth by God-The Messiah.

The real Christians believe their Bible is the Word of God, not the Watchtower. The Watchtower has proven to be a false prophet. All I need for salvation is faith in Jesus Christ. That's what Jesus Said. That's what Paul said. That's what Peter said. That's what James said. That's what John said. They are right, not the Watchtower.

All the errors were corrected--so by refusing to forgive anothefrs past--God will fail to forgive your past--that's how that works--Do you still wish to live in 100 year old errors or forgive ones who have corrected? Its 2018---its NOW that counts.
Just like in your youth you lived to sin-- should God look at that still if you repented? No--same goes with the JW teachings.
Yu see all other religions failed to heed Gods warning---Beware if you think you are standing strong.

You don't get it, and because you don't get it is the proof you and the Watchtower can't be taken seriously. The bible states that when you call yourself a prophet of God, you don't make mistakes. The BIBLE says one mistake when you claim to be a prophet of God makes you a false prophet. In the Old Testament they would have been killed. Jesus said there would be many false prophets. The Watchtower and Mormonism, just to name a few. I forgive them, but that doesn't mean I listen to them. Forgiveness has nothing to do with it. There is no right religion. Religion will not save me. Only Jesus. I have ALL my faith in Jesus, not men or an organization or denomination. Examine yourself. When you tell me that it's Jesus in Revelation chapter one verse 7 and then it's Jehovah in verse 8 you exposed your indoctrination. It's the same person. Jesus is Jehovah, but you can't see it because you're indoctrinated. Anyone just reading the scriptures can see it's the same person. No one left and no one else entered the picture. As soon as you start reading the bible you put on your Watchtower glasses and see everything through their lens. I'm sure you've been told many times by others that all you need is Jesus and not the Watchtower. It's true. You're following a false prophet. Pray to the One True Living God to open your eyes and He will.

 

[irosie91]

[QUOTE="BS Filter, post: 19788232



The bible states that when you call yourself a prophet of God, you don't make mistakes. The BIBLE says one mistake when you claim to be a prophet of God makes you a false prophet. In the Old Testament they would have been killed.

what does "in the old testament, they would have been killed" mean?

 

[hobelim]

The burden of the law is the death consequent for failure to comply with it. Even complying with the law in the wrong way results in the same burden as not even trying to comply at all, death.

Jesus removed the burden of the law, death, by teaching and demonstrating the only right way to understand and conform to the will of God that fulfills the promise of eternal life..

you are confused by the term "death" as used in the poetry AND LAWs
of the OT. In most cases it has nothing to do with Judicial execution.

If you thought that I was speaking about judicial execution, you are the one who is confused.

you did use the term "death" -----which---AS YOU KNOW---seems in the
minds of lots of people as mass executions for minor flaws in practice of
ritual. So what burden did Jesus magically obliterate?

Jesus removed the burden of the law - by teaching the only right way to understand and conform to the laws demands that fulfills the promise of eternal life and entry into Gods kingdom while still on earth.


That Jesus ascended into heaven the realm of eternal life implies that he started off in the realm of the dead, worrying about washing hands and what to eat and wear and how to correctly tie a box on the head.

you are desperate. Jesus WORRIED about washing his hands ? GOOD!!! In my profession---renewal of license REQUIRES special
lessons in HAND WASHING--------I live in the realm of the dead. The lessons
include such concepts as 'WORRY ABOUT COLLEAGUES THAT DO NOT
WASH THEIR HANDS'. I used to love to watch my dad get dressed in
the morning-------the manner in which he TIED HIS TIE-----fascinated me----
then he placed a tie clip and was VERY careful to place it so that there is a little tiny hump over the clip ----involving the top leaf-----SNAZZY. -------I can do some knots that ordinary people like you do not know------it is very
important and can sometimes SAVE A LIFE.

For the record------take care to wash your hands and make sure that there
arer fresh towels in the bathroom

Yeah, Jesus was probably raised to think that the concern of God was about what you eat and what you wear and how to correctly tie a box to your head according to the instructions in the talmud, what Jesus called the traditions of men, until he realized that those traditions were silly at best and miss the point and teaching of the law completely which rendered it null and void.


Reminds me of a joke...

Two guys in the bathroom. One walks away without washing his hands. The other says to him, "didn't your mother teach you to wash your hands after going to the bathroom?"

He replied, " my mother taught me not to piss or shit in my hands."



The subject of washing your hands clean in scripture is not about washing body parts.

Now there's some kosher food for you to eat. Be warned though, do not touch it until you wash your hands you filthy animal.