What will low income people do for healthcare if they lose their Obamacare?

[tigerred59]

Will these over paid congressional leaders be apart of the 24 million that will lose coverage?

 

[TooTall]

Unfuckin beleivable.....The GOP is now saying the democrats are just trying to scare people......TWO WORDS FOR THESE MOTHERFUCKERS.....DEATH PANELS!!

Now exactly how many died under ACA?

Nobody has died that had ACA for the last 7 years. Not one single person.

 

[Political Junky]

Private health care has never worked anywhere in the world.

 

[Steelfoot]

Listen up, Scubs. Here's the bottom line.

You know what the scuzzy, parasitic underclass rabble can do to pay for their medical needs? The loathsome prole vermin can get their nasty bloodsucker hands out of our pockets and pull their own weight.

The party's over for the freeloading shitbags. They can man up and take care of themselves for a change -- or they can fucking ROT! And we don't care which.

God, how we hate the odious maggots of the filthy Marxist welfare state!

Are we clear on this? You better be.

America for REAL Americans!

Know what we mean?

 

[TooTall]

Private health care has never worked anywhere in the world.

It has worked quite well for me all of my life.

 

[Political Junky]

Private health care has never worked anywhere in the world.

It has worked quite well for me all of my life.

As long as you're content to pay double what it would be in a country with single payer.

 

[Penelope]

Listen up, Scubs. Here's the bottom line.

You know what the scuzzy, parasitic underclass rabble can do to pay for their medical needs? The loathsome prole vermin can get their nasty bloodsucker hands out of our pockets and pull their own weight.

The party's over for the freeloading shitbags. They can man up and take care of themselves for a change -- or they can fucking ROT! And we don't care which.

God, how we hate the odious maggots of the filthy Marxist welfare state!

Are we clear on this? You better be.

America for REAL Americans!

Know what we mean?

Raise the min wage to 20 an hour.

 

[Claudette]

That 48 (average) percent that doesn't pay taxes.....does that include minors? What's the percentage of the workforce who pays taxes? And if we can't pay for everyone to get healthcare maybe we could stop subsidizing large corporations. Maybe we could also stop overspending for the military. Instead of bitching about how much we spend, let's spend wisely in worthwhile stuff.

I agree on the tax loopholes. Change the law and get rid of them.

I don't agree with single payer.

I'm not interested in paying for someone elses health care any more than I'm interested in paying their mortgage, car payment or feeding them.

People need to take care of themselves and do what it takes job wise to do so. They aren't my responsibility and I sure as shit won't make them mine.

You are probably another freeloader. Do you have insurance??

I take your smiley face as no you do not have insurance. I was right, just another freeloader, us taxpayers pay for.

Oh I do indeed have insurance through my employer. Oh and I do pay for it and my costs have gone up by 60% the last two years because of the ACA.

Sounds like you're the freeloader.

Under Ryan-TrumpCare......you had better hope you or family members never get cancer or long term illnesses you will be shit out of luck!!!!

No I won't because I don't belong to the ACA or the new system.

Maybe you, but not me.

 

[Penelope]

I agree on the tax loopholes. Change the law and get rid of them.

I don't agree with single payer.

I'm not interested in paying for someone elses health care any more than I'm interested in paying their mortgage, car payment or feeding them.

People need to take care of themselves and do what it takes job wise to do so. They aren't my responsibility and I sure as shit won't make them mine.

You are probably another freeloader. Do you have insurance??

I take your smiley face as no you do not have insurance. I was right, just another freeloader, us taxpayers pay for.

Oh I do indeed have insurance through my employer. Oh and I do pay for it and my costs have gone up by 60% the last two years because of the ACA.

Sounds like you're the freeloader.

Under Ryan-TrumpCare......you had better hope you or family members never get cancer or long term illnesses you will be shit out of luck!!!!

No I won't because I don't belong to the ACA or the new system.

Maybe you, but not me.

So no insurance or Medicare?

 

[Penelope]

Private health care has never worked anywhere in the world.

It has worked quite well for me all of my life.

For my zip code, on the Exchange, a 60 year old male, earning $28k gross a year, for the lowest priced Silver Policy, receives $11,800 in subsidies and pays $130 a month in premium out of his own pocket, and this male would also receive cost sharing reductions, of another $2100 in govt assistance for out of pocket/ and deductible expenses. So the insurance policy for him in my zip code on the Exchange, at 60 years old is $13,360 a year plus $2700 deductible/out of pocket of which $2100 is given in extra assistance....with NO SUBSIDIES, thE price of the policy with out of pocket is $16000 A YEAR.

The GOP would help this 60 year old man with an alleged tax credit, but when he owes no federal income tax, will he still get this $4k credit, and even if they gave the credit of $4k to him, he STILL COULD NOT AFFORD TO BUY HEALTH CARE INSURANCE because he would not have the additional $12,000 for the premium costs and out of pocket expense.

This man would be forced to go without health care insurance.

There is no reason for anyone to go without insurance now, unless they are freeloaders.

What's the Maximum Income for Getting Premium Assistance?

 

[Penelope]

My mind is made up. Medicaid for all.

There's no contradiction. Insurance companies are meant to guarantee payment so that the scenario I presented above doesn't happen. But when insurance companies are more interested in finding ways to not pay bills on behalf of their customers, that is unacceptable, too. The consumer loses out in both situations. A catastrophic illness or accident can ruin someone financially.

My mind says you're an idiot.

You want the Govt. to be in charge of health care for three hundred million American??

The Govt. that has never done anything cheaply or well in its entire history??

The Govt. that turns into mountains of red tape, paperwork and long waits??

If that you're idea than you are one serious dumbass.

You've bought into some propaganda. Medicaid is a cost-effective program. Furthermore, other countries have utilized universal healthcare. Making healthcare a right, not a privilege, makes sense, and is good for everyone. And no amount of foot-stomping or name-calling is going to change that.

Medicaid has never been, nor will it ever be, cost effective. Its the producers paying for those that don't pay for themselves.

We now have between 47 and 49 percent of the people in this country who pay no Fed taxes whatsoever. The Fed, tax payer dollars that pay for it all.

What happens when it reaches 50 percent or higher.

Where hell do you think the money will come from to pay for everyone's health care when there are more takers than producers?? Those paying taxes will pay more while the others just suck off the system.

The less producers, the less money to pay for that health care you think is so great.

That 48 (average) percent that doesn't pay taxes.....does that include minors? What's the percentage of the workforce who pays taxes? And if we can't pay for everyone to get healthcare maybe we could stop subsidizing large corporations. Maybe we could also stop overspending for the military. Instead of bitching about how much we spend, let's spend wisely in worthwhile stuff.

I agree on the tax loopholes. Change the law and get rid of them.

I don't agree with single payer.

I'm not interested in paying for someone elses health care any more than I'm interested in paying their mortgage, car payment or feeding them.

People need to take care of themselves and do what it takes job wise to do so. They aren't my responsibility and I sure as shit won't make them mine.

Then you should be very pro the mandate.

 

[Claudette]

You are probably another freeloader. Do you have insurance??

I take your smiley face as no you do not have insurance. I was right, just another freeloader, us taxpayers pay for.

Oh I do indeed have insurance through my employer. Oh and I do pay for it and my costs have gone up by 60% the last two years because of the ACA.

Sounds like you're the freeloader.

Under Ryan-TrumpCare......you had better hope you or family members never get cancer or long term illnesses you will be shit out of luck!!!!

No I won't because I don't belong to the ACA or the new system.

Maybe you, but not me.

So no insurance or Medicare?

Of course I have insurance through my employer. Costs have gone up by sixty percent the last two years because of that POS the ACA.

I qualify for Medicare this year and will see what I want to do later.

 

[Claudette]

My mind says you're an idiot.

You want the Govt. to be in charge of health care for three hundred million American??

The Govt. that has never done anything cheaply or well in its entire history??

The Govt. that turns into mountains of red tape, paperwork and long waits??

If that you're idea than you are one serious dumbass.

You've bought into some propaganda. Medicaid is a cost-effective program. Furthermore, other countries have utilized universal healthcare. Making healthcare a right, not a privilege, makes sense, and is good for everyone. And no amount of foot-stomping or name-calling is going to change that.

Medicaid has never been, nor will it ever be, cost effective. Its the producers paying for those that don't pay for themselves.

We now have between 47 and 49 percent of the people in this country who pay no Fed taxes whatsoever. The Fed, tax payer dollars that pay for it all.

What happens when it reaches 50 percent or higher.

Where hell do you think the money will come from to pay for everyone's health care when there are more takers than producers?? Those paying taxes will pay more while the others just suck off the system.

The less producers, the less money to pay for that health care you think is so great.

That 48 (average) percent that doesn't pay taxes.....does that include minors? What's the percentage of the workforce who pays taxes? And if we can't pay for everyone to get healthcare maybe we could stop subsidizing large corporations. Maybe we could also stop overspending for the military. Instead of bitching about how much we spend, let's spend wisely in worthwhile stuff.

I agree on the tax loopholes. Change the law and get rid of them.

I don't agree with single payer.

I'm not interested in paying for someone elses health care any more than I'm interested in paying their mortgage, car payment or feeding them.

People need to take care of themselves and do what it takes job wise to do so. They aren't my responsibility and I sure as shit won't make them mine.

Then you should be very pro the mandate.

Nope. I see no reason for the Govt. to demand that I purchase a product. I see no reason for the taxpayers to bankroll anyone's healthcare needs.

 

[Penelope]

I take your smiley face as no you do not have insurance. I was right, just another freeloader, us taxpayers pay for.

Oh I do indeed have insurance through my employer. Oh and I do pay for it and my costs have gone up by 60% the last two years because of the ACA.

Sounds like you're the freeloader.

Under Ryan-TrumpCare......you had better hope you or family members never get cancer or long term illnesses you will be shit out of luck!!!!

No I won't because I don't belong to the ACA or the new system.

Maybe you, but not me.

So no insurance or Medicare?

Of course I have insurance through my employer. Costs have gone up by sixty percent the last two years because of that POS the ACA.

I qualify for Medicare this year and will see what I want to do later.

I doubt it , read this:

What's the Maximum Income for Getting Premium Assistance?

 

[Esmeralda]

What will the poor do when everyone in America is as poor as they are? Move on to another Country?

^^^This is the most stupid comment possible.

 

[theHawk]

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Or they could get a job. They could choose to buy coverage instead of the newest iPhone or spinners for their SUV.

 

[RealDave]

The 24 million uninsured are mostly poor democrat immigrant families who should of never been let into the country.

24 million will affect a lot of red state voters.....make no mistake!!!! Get ready for the GOP over reach and lost of GOP house seats in 2018.

Is that the same CBO that predicted 24 million would be signed up on the exchanges and there were less than 12 million that did? I think they should take another year, since the Democrats in the Senate will block it any way and let Obamacare stay in force.

Yup.


The very same CBO that scored the Obama Stimulus at $825 billion, and actually came our to $1.2 trillion
Stimulus with interest: $1.2 trillion - Jan. 27, 2009

Since when do spending bills include intererst.

I laugh at you morons who complain about the Stimulus Bill.

If YOUR party had not nearly KILLED America, we would not have needed a satimulus bull.
If you want to see massive debt from a healthcare related bill, look at the Part D expansion the Republicans did that adds hundreds of billions to the national debt.

Tells us how much interest has piled up because of that.

 

[RealDave]

Here is a suggestion to answer the question.

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Or they could get a job. They could choose to buy coverage instead of the newest iPhone or spinners for their SUV.

Wow, This was really stupid when that Republican leader said it & you repeating it makes you that stupid. If only they cancelled their cell phone, they could afford $12k a year for insurance.

 

[theHawk]

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Or they could get a job. They could choose to buy coverage instead of the newest iPhone or spinners for their SUV.

Wow, This was really stupid when that Republican leader said it & you repeating it makes you that stupid. If only they cancelled their cell phone, they could afford $12k a year for insurance.

You can always volunteer to pick up that $12K unpaid tab for some welfare leech. Of course you won't.

 

[RealDave]

Tithing was REQUIRED giving, not giving out of generosity.

Are you requesting a lesson in politics and religion?

My pleasure.


1. Let's go forward with the point, and underscore that the Bible, rather than authorizing taking from some and giving to others, via governmental intimidation or incarceration, prescribes a very different solution.

A form of giving..."tithing".... "is not for the poor! It is for specific individuals who could not provide for themselves because of specific circumstances. This “welfare” was for the Levites, because they did not own any land; for foreigners who temporarily needed aid while in the nation; for the fatherless, who were too young to provide for themselves and did not have family to take care of them; and for widows who likewise were too old to work or had no family to support them.



2. ...tithe was not given to able-bodied men and women who were capable of working. For able-bodied people, God’s welfare system is—work. How different from modern social welfare programs!

In fact, the Bible is clear that people should be rewarded by what they contribute to society.

The Bible is specific about what God expects of able-bodied members of society. In 2 Thessalonians 3:10, Paul said, “If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat”



3. The Bible is filled with many such admonitions to work and provide for your family.“But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel” (1 Timothy 5:8)." Is God a Socialist?




So....redistribution is not charity a la the Bible....it is theft

And the welfare system endorsed by scripture is .....personal responsibility, and earning.



Bet you're glad you brought it up, huh?

You sure like to twist and turn things written in the Bible, much like the Snake in the Garden!

Certainly you are AWARE that there were different Tithing(s) required during different periods throughout the year...like the wealthier farmer required to leave 1/10 of his crop in the field so that the poor and hungry could eat from it....

The people on the exchange DO WORK FOR A LIVING, so your bull crud on talents, and "working" is the welfare of the Bible, has NOTHING to do with the topic of this thread Miss Spinmeister!


so tell us PC, who are you in this parable of Christ Judging the Nations?

Matthew 25:31-46New International Version (NIV)
The Sheep and the Goats
31 “When the Son of Man comesA)">(A) in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne.B)">(B) 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separateC)">(C) the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.D)">(D) 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdomE)">(E) prepared for you since the creation of the world.F)">(F) 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in,G)">(G) 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me,H)">(H) I was sick and you looked after me,I)">(I) I was in prison and you came to visit me.’J)">(J)

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’K)">(K)

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me,L)">(L) you who are cursed, into the eternal fireM)">(M) prepared for the devil and his angels.N)">(N) 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’O)">(O)

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.P)">(P)”Q)">(Q)

Hebrews 13:2New International Version (NIV)
2 Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers,A)">(A) for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it.B)">(B)

This is really a bottom-of-the-barrel post from you.

You're trying to equate hospitality to stealing from earners for the purpose of buying votes for Democrats????


Pleeeeeezzzzzz don't play dumb.

You do not have insurance do you or you are on your parents. I hope they do not allow people like you to go to the ER, they should have a name there of free loaders like you who try to use the ER like a doctors office because you have no assets to lose. Are you insured. Answer yes or no?

I'm independently wealthy.
Ever since I learned to spin straw into gold, those little inconveniences no longer held any interest for me.

I'm twenty foot tall & invented a machine that turens horseshit into gold bars.

You live in a 25 year old movbile home ion the trailer psark & wait for your monthly food stamps to arrive so yopu cabn sell them