i assume roberts and obama can force us to buy an electric car. if we dont, we pay a 10000 dollar tax.
This is such a great point. The government can literally force us to buy anything now. Pretty scary actually.
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i assume roberts and obama can force us to buy an electric car. if we dont, we pay a 10000 dollar tax.
Any thoughts on that?
Since the Fed can now force us to buy hc ins, there's no end of things that can be mandated, for our own good.
I'm thinking life ins. Those evul grave diggers demand thousands of dollars just to dig a hole and put your loved one in it.
Forcing everone to get it, and giving it free to the poor will lower the cost of premiums and make certain no one ever has to pony up for any of the costs of dying.
plus all those evul life insurance companies = about $14 trillion dollar industry, so we should put more government regs on them.
This is a sad sad day for freedom.
you know... it strikes me that if the mandate were that you buy a gun, you wouldn't be complaining.
just saying.
now THAT'S sad...
Nothing- it's 2014, or pay 1% of your income.. Do you have insurance now? NO CHANGE>
That's of course if your employer doesn't drop it.
i assume roberts and obama can force us to buy an electric car. if we dont, we pay a 10000 dollar tax.
This is such a great point. The government can literally force us to buy anything now. Pretty scary actually.
That's idiotic. THere is no way all these costs can be deferred without a massive tax increase on earners.Any thoughts on that?
Since the Fed can now force us to buy hc ins, there's no end of things that can be mandated, for our own good.
I'm thinking life ins. Those evul grave diggers demand thousands of dollars just to dig a hole and put your loved one in it.
Forcing everone to get it, and giving it free to the poor will lower the cost of premiums and make certain no one ever has to pony up for any of the costs of dying.
plus all those evul life insurance companies = about $14 trillion dollar industry, so we should put more government regs on them.
This is a sad sad day for freedom.
you know... it strikes me that if the mandate were that you buy a gun, you wouldn't be complaining.
just saying.
now THAT'S sad...
Well I didn't like funding useless wars.. yet we didn't see so many complaints for 8+ years...
No.. it's not the same thing.
Yes it is.
Originally: if you don't purchase health insurance you will be fined (penalty).
After today's ruling: if you don't purchase health insurance you will be taxed.
What's different?
Being FORCED to buy insurance and paying a tax if you don't are not the same. No one is holding a gun to your head.
And of all the things to protest paying for... there are a lot more protest-worthy things, things we can blame Obama for as well.
Take your affordable guaranteed health care and like it, fools. Get a doctor and get your shytte together.
Nothing- it's 2014, or pay 1% of your income.. Do you have insurance now? NO CHANGE>
That's of course if your employer doesn't drop it.
What is preventing any employer from dropping health insurance for it's employees currently?
Nothing- it's 2014, or pay 1% of your income.. Do you have insurance now? NO CHANGE>
That's of course if your employer doesn't drop it.
What is preventing any employer from dropping health insurance for it's employees currently?
Goods, services, and actions are taxed.
Today we learned that we can be taxed for NON-action.
lunacy
Goods, services, and actions are taxed.
Today we learned that we can be taxed for NON-action.
lunacy
It is lunacy. But it's lunacy we already have a lot of. We need to understand that. For example, there are tax incentives that let you deduct from your taxes owed for making energy-efficient home improvements. The people who don't make these investments pay higher taxes than those who don't. They are taxed for their non-action. How is this any different?
Don't get me wrong - I'm not advocating for this practice. I think it's all bullshit. But we need to understand that we've been conned for a long time, thinking that we're getting little 'bonuses' for playing along and doing what the government (or rather, their lobbyists) want us to do. When it's equally valid to recognize that the people who aren't jumping through these hoops are being punished with higher taxes.
That's of course if your employer doesn't drop it.
What is preventing any employer from dropping health insurance for it's employees currently?
Employees going postal?
Take your affordable guaranteed health care and like it, fools. Get a doctor and get your shytte together.
You're in luck. Your chronic retardery is classed as a pre-existing condition, and you can't be denied coverage for it.
No cure for it, though...
Goods, services, and actions are taxed.
Today we learned that we can be taxed for NON-action.
lunacy
It is lunacy. But it's lunacy we already have a lot of. We need to understand that. For example, there are tax incentives that let you deduct from your taxes owed for making energy-efficient home improvements. The people who don't make these investments pay higher taxes than those who don't. They are taxed for their non-action. How is this any different?
Don't get me wrong - I'm not advocating for this practice. I think it's all bullshit. But we need to understand that we've been conned for a long time, thinking that we're getting little 'bonuses' for playing along and doing what the government (or rather, their lobbyists) want us to do. When it's equally valid to recognize that the people who aren't jumping through these hoops are being punished with higher taxes.
Goods, services, and actions are taxed.
Today we learned that we can be taxed for NON-action.
lunacy
It is lunacy. But it's lunacy we already have a lot of. We need to understand that. For example, there are tax incentives that let you deduct from your taxes owed for making energy-efficient home improvements. The people who don't make these investments pay higher taxes than those who don't. They are taxed for their non-action. How is this any different?
Don't get me wrong - I'm not advocating for this practice. I think it's all bullshit. But we need to understand that we've been conned for a long time, thinking that we're getting little 'bonuses' for playing along and doing what the government (or rather, their lobbyists) want us to do. When it's equally valid to recognize that the people who aren't jumping through these hoops are being punished with higher taxes.
I wonder if you think that all taxes are bad and should be abolished.
We are "mandated" to pay taxes. What do our taxes buy us?What will we be "mandated" to buy next?
Franklin Delano Roosevelt once remarked that Taxes, after all, are dues that we pay for the privileges of membership in an organized society. And Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. expressed a similar sentiment when he said that I like to pay taxes. With them I buy civilization."
Government is Good - Taxes are Good
What our taxes pay for | The Christian Century
It is lunacy. But it's lunacy we already have a lot of. We need to understand that. For example, there are tax incentives that let you deduct from your taxes owed for making energy-efficient home improvements. The people who don't make these investments pay higher taxes than those who don't. They are taxed for their non-action. How is this any different?
Don't get me wrong - I'm not advocating for this practice. I think it's all bullshit. But we need to understand that we've been conned for a long time, thinking that we're getting little 'bonuses' for playing along and doing what the government (or rather, their lobbyists) want us to do. When it's equally valid to recognize that the people who aren't jumping through these hoops are being punished with higher taxes.
I wonder if you think that all taxes are bad and should be abolished.
No.
I wonder if you think that all taxes are bad and should be abolished.
No.
To elaborate, I have no problem with taxes that are applied equally to generate the revenue required for government to function. My complaint is with tax policies that are formulated to manipulate us in ways that would be clearly unconstitutional if implemented as straightforward laws. If, for example, Congress passed a law that everyone was required to buy energy-efficient water heaters, and that those who didn't would be fined, I think most of us would recognize that as an unconstitutional law. Yet the tax incentives "rewarding" the purchase of energy-efficient water heaters are functionally equivalent.
I'm not sure how this makes sense... or how buying water heaters is analogous to a tax that provides the necessary revenue needed for a more expansive and equitable healthcare system.