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Five years from now a commercial....."if you received the Covid vaccine you may be entitled to compensation".....
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Nice speculation, please name one mrna vaccine that has been fully tested and approved by the FDA--and not emergency approval. Please link it.Times for development, FDA approval, and manufacturing will be far faster than traditional vaccines which generally took years.
Both patients and medical professionals are urged to submit VAERS reports. This is raw data and there is no attempt to render any conclusion and there is no cause and effect reports. Anyone can enter a VAERS report or download data. If you submit one, you will get an acknowledgement of receipt. If the CDC or FDA needs more information, they will contact you but they will not release personal information. This database is intended to be used by the CDC , FDA, vaccine manufactures, and medical researchers. Typically, researchers will use the data in looking for correlations and trends which may lead to further study. There are legal penalties for knowing submitted a false report. In essence. the value of VAERS is to provide researchers data for further study.That’s not accurate VAERS data only shows deaths after vaccination regardless of cause, so if a person with cancer was vaccinated and then died of cancer that death would be counted in the VAERS data, that caveat is published on the VAERS website.We know the positive info.Nope, I'd be willing to take the covid vaccine if I could have access to all the negative information and data that has been suppressed, and compare it to all the positive information
The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are 90+% effective at stopping COVID completely, and if you do get it, it will be very mild.
Nobody has died from getting a COVID vaccine. 600,000 in the USA have died from COVID, and that's a lowball estimate. Many of the survivors have permanent complications
Seems like a no-brainer.
Over 6000 have died from complications from the shots reported on VAERS. 16,000 in europe have died due to complications from the shots. Keep that head in the sand.
That's a rather stupid question because you know that this is the first major human epidemic that mRNA vaccines have been used. mRNA vaccines have been developed for lab use and animal trials and shown to be effective and safe against, the Covid family of viruses, Zika virus, rabies virus and others. The first naked mRNA, given intravenously clinical trials were conducted in 2002. Clinical trials involving tens of thousands of people in a number of countries began last year. Each phase of the clinical trials confirmed that mRNA vaccines have a high level of efficiency and safety. With a billion does of mRNA vaccines given worldwide, the results have been the same as the clinical trials, save and effective.
Nice speculation, please name one mrna vaccine that has been fully tested and approved by the FDA--and not emergency approval. Please link it.Times for development, FDA approval, and manufacturing will be far faster than traditional vaccines which generally took years.
In other words--It is experimental, Your inept attempt at deflection is noted. BTW, because you have no answer for a question regarding a product that you have been promoting nonstop does not make the question stupid--it makes you a lemming for failing to question an experimental vaccine.because you know that this is the first major human epidemic that mRNA vaccines have been used.
Good synopsis, Thanks for the information, that’s how was basically looking at the VAERS data.Both patients and medical professionals are urged to submit VAERS reports. This is raw data and there is no attempt to render any conclusion and there is no cause and effect reports. Anyone can enter a VAERS report or download data. If you submit one, you will get an acknowledgement of receipt. If the CDC or FDA needs more information, they will contact you but they will not release personal information. This database is intended to be used by the CDC , FDA, vaccine manufactures, and medical researchers. Typically, researchers will use the data in looking for correlations and trends which may lead to further study. There are legal penalties for knowing submitted a false report. In essence. the value of VAERS is to provide researchers data for further study.That’s not accurate VAERS data only shows deaths after vaccination regardless of cause, so if a person with cancer was vaccinated and then died of cancer that death would be counted in the VAERS data, that caveat is published on the VAERS website.We know the positive info.Nope, I'd be willing to take the covid vaccine if I could have access to all the negative information and data that has been suppressed, and compare it to all the positive information
The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are 90+% effective at stopping COVID completely, and if you do get it, it will be very mild.
Nobody has died from getting a COVID vaccine. 600,000 in the USA have died from COVID, and that's a lowball estimate. Many of the survivors have permanent complications
Seems like a no-brainer.
Over 6000 have died from complications from the shots reported on VAERS. 16,000 in europe have died due to complications from the shots. Keep that head in the sand.
That's a rather stupid question because you know that this is the first major human epidemic that mRNA vaccines have been used. mRNA vaccines have been developed for lab use and animal trials and shown to be effective and safe against, the Covid family of viruses, Zika virus, rabies virus and others. The first naked mRNA, given intravenously clinical trials were conducted in 2002. Clinical trials involving tens of thousands of people in a number of countries began last year. Each phase of the clinical trials confirmed that mRNA vaccines have a high level of efficiency and safety. With a billion does of mRNA vaccines given worldwide, the results have been the same as the clinical trials, save and effective.
Nice speculation, please name one mrna vaccine that has been fully tested and approved by the FDA--and not emergency approval. Please link it.Times for development, FDA approval, and manufacturing will be far faster than traditional vaccines which generally took years.
But if you're not sold on mRNA vaccines there is always Johnson & Johnson which uses disabled adenovirus to deliver the instructions. These type of vaccines have been around for a long time. However, neither their safety nor effectiveness record is quit as good as the mRNA vaccines.
What are Adenovirus-Based Vaccines?
Adenoviruses are excellent vectors for delivering target antigens to mammalian hosts because of their capability in the immune system.www.news-medical.net
And after proper vetting, I might change my opinion. Until then, Flopper can be the guinea pig.That's a rather stupid question because you know that this is the first major human epidemic that mRNA vaccines have been used. mRNA vaccines have been developed for lab use and animal trials and shown to be effective and safe against, the Covid family of viruses, Zika virus, rabies virus and others. The first naked mRNA, given intravenously clinical trials were conducted in 2002. Clinical trials involving tens of thousands of people in a number of countries began last year. Each phase of the clinical trials confirmed that mRNA vaccines have a high level of efficiency and safety. With a billion does of mRNA vaccines given worldwide, the results have been the same as the clinical trials, save and effective.
Nice speculation, please name one mrna vaccine that has been fully tested and approved by the FDA--and not emergency approval. Please link it.Times for development, FDA approval, and manufacturing will be far faster than traditional vaccines which generally took years.
But if you're not sold on mRNA vaccines there is always Johnson & Johnson which uses disabled adenovirus to deliver the instructions. These type of vaccines have been around for a long time. However, neither their safety nor effectiveness record is quit as good as the mRNA vaccines.
What are Adenovirus-Based Vaccines?
Adenoviruses are excellent vectors for delivering target antigens to mammalian hosts because of their capability in the immune system.www.news-medical.net
Time will tell if these new mRNA technologies are safe or not. We don't know yet other than the initial administration and what's happening in this current experimental phase. We'll know a lot more in 7-8 years.
When I started this thread, I was mostly interested in having having access to all the supprressed negative information, but I think I'd have to add that I'd also need to see all the actual statistical date in an unmanipulated format.Interesting, huh, how a covid death is reported as covid and now many who are dying from the vaccine are reported as covid deaths.
Are you a virologist? Didn't think so. A virologist would at least know the difference between "irradiate" and "eradicate." Run along now, social media is calling you.Unless you are a virologist
Yes you will have a lot more data on the vaccines in 7 or 8 years but what would you do with it. In 7 or 8 years, there won't be any reason to take vaccine in the US. Fearing long term side effects is only reason to wait that long. We know what the short effects are with more than billion does given.That's a rather stupid question because you know that this is the first major human epidemic that mRNA vaccines have been used. mRNA vaccines have been developed for lab use and animal trials and shown to be effective and safe against, the Covid family of viruses, Zika virus, rabies virus and others. The first naked mRNA, given intravenously clinical trials were conducted in 2002. Clinical trials involving tens of thousands of people in a number of countries began last year. Each phase of the clinical trials confirmed that mRNA vaccines have a high level of efficiency and safety. With a billion does of mRNA vaccines given worldwide, the results have been the same as the clinical trials, save and effective.
Nice speculation, please name one mrna vaccine that has been fully tested and approved by the FDA--and not emergency approval. Please link it.Times for development, FDA approval, and manufacturing will be far faster than traditional vaccines which generally took years.
But if you're not sold on mRNA vaccines there is always Johnson & Johnson which uses disabled adenovirus to deliver the instructions. These type of vaccines have been around for a long time. However, neither their safety nor effectiveness record is quit as good as the mRNA vaccines.
What are Adenovirus-Based Vaccines?
Adenoviruses are excellent vectors for delivering target antigens to mammalian hosts because of their capability in the immune system.www.news-medical.net
Time will tell if these new mRNA technologies are safe or not. We don't know yet other than the initial administration and what's happening in this current experimental phase. We'll know a lot more in 7-8 years.
is experimental, Your inept
After over 300 million does in the US and about billion worldwide it's experimental?In other words--It is experimental, Your inept attempt at deflection is noted. BTW, because you have no answer for a question regarding a product that you have been promoting nonstop does not make the question stupid--it makes you a lemming for failing to question an experimental vaccine.because you know that this is the first major human epidemic that mRNA vaccines have been used.
How many bucks? Yeah, experimental. There have been no--your words--long term studies done on humans, so yeah Einstein, it is experimental. And it has not been without serious side effects. BTW, when you pull stats out of your ass--it is best to link them. Please link the 300M and the 1B stat to a reputable source or STFU, you are no expert.After over 300 million does
Actually they haven't positively linked serious side effects to the vaccinations. Side effects happen at the same rate as placebo within statistical error. That is because the instances of each is so small, as to make cause and effect difficult to prove.How many bucks? Yeah, experimental. There have been no--your words--long term studies done on humans, so yeah Einstein, it is experimental. And it has not been without serious side effects.
Five years from now a commercial....."if you received the Covid vaccine you may be entitled to compensation".....
I'd be willing to take the covid vaccine if I could have access to all the negative information and data that has been suppressed, and compare it to all the positive information that is available. If I still felt like it was a wise choice after seeing all the information that has been kept from me, I'd get the shot.
What would it take to get YOU to take the shot?
So you're going to sit down & study data, probably thousands of pages of it to decide whether or not you'll take the vaccine? Yea, ok. You're full of shit.In order for me to voluntarily take the vaccine, I still would need to view all the suppressed information and data about the vaccines, compare it to the positive data, and make an informed decision based on all that. The denial of censorship from you or any other commies does not change what it would take for me to voluntarily take the vaccine. If anything, the subjective opinions and attitudes of people like you make me even more suspicious of the vaccine.Negative information and data suppression?
Every tiny little negative reaction is screeched from the rooftops at the maximum volume the antivaxers can muster. There is no suppressed data
You won't find studies of long term side effects of vaccines because there is nothing to study.How many bucks? Yeah, experimental. There have been no--your words--long term studies done on humans, so yeah Einstein, it is experimental. And it has not been without serious side effects. BTW, when you pull stats out of your ass--it is best to link them. Please link the 300M and the 1B stat to a reputable source or STFU, you are no expert.How many bucks? Yeah, experimental. There have been no--your words--long term studies done on humans, so yeah Einstein, it is experimental. And it has not been without serious side effects. BTW, when you pull stats out of your ass--it is best to link them. Please link the 300M and the 1B stat to a reputable source or STFU, you are no expert.After over 300 million does
After over 300 million does
Right--they DON'T KNOW, neither do you. You run your mouth like you are an expert--please explain your credentials. Otherwise, you're just a mouth spouting shit.You won't find studies of long term side effects of vaccines
I'd be willing to take the covid vaccine if I could have access to all the negative information and data that has been suppressed, and compare it to all the positive information that is available. If I still felt like it was a wise choice after seeing all the information that has been kept from me, I'd get the shot.
What would it take to get YOU to take the shot?
At this point, like most of the decisions in modern life that people think are so damned important, there is a zero likelihood of getting any objective data about COVID or the various vaccines that isn't painted, one way or the other, with political agenda.
So, in the absence of objective data, I will make a decision based on what usually works for me.
I'm not getting the shot, just because it pisses people off.
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