Whatever your opinion of Obama, he is better than Clinton or Sanders would have been

[shockedcanadian]

Watched the final speech by Obama. It was a positive one and respectful. I have to remind myself the economy he inherited and how worrisome it was for the global economy and how he turned it around and brought faith back in the economy. I have my issues with him on certain policies, but I never questioned his concern for the American people, the ways in which he believed he could assist long term simply differ than those who believe in economic conservative policies in particular.

I try and be objective, and I believe neither Sanders or Clinton would have been better than Obama was. The alt-left of the party had it's talons in the Democratic party and was pushing it in some very unAmerican territory. Sanders embraced it openly, Clinton would have tried to resist but would have been forced to capitulate to these far left "progressives".

If Trump keeps his promises, especially his ambitions to create jobs and take a more Conservative, almost Libertarian approach to the economy; he has a chance of leaving a great legacy. He has an open road really. He is not beholden to many, he has built his own great business and a successful brand. In short, he didn't need the job of president, he wants to do what is best regardless of either side. His open minded approach and lack of a rigid ideology as far as I am concerned is a powerful quality to possess.

Ultimately, each president contributes to the selection of the next. Obama was an outsider in many respects and he was elected to replace the direction Bush had pushed America. As such, Trump, the ultimate Outsider has been chosen to replace what didnt work before him.

 

[Auld Phart]

Depends on how you look at it.


odds are, neither Clinton nor Sanders could have won a second term

 

[ptbw forever]

Watched the final speech by Obama. It was a positive one and respectful. I have to remind myself the economy he inherited and how worrisome it was for the global economy and how he turned it around and brought faith back in the economy. I have my issues with him on certain policies, but I never questioned his concern for the American people, the ways in which he believed he could assist long term simply differ than those who believe in economic conservative policies in particular.

I try and be objective, and I believe neither Sanders or Clinton would have been better than Obama was. The alt-left of the party had it's talons in the Democratic party and was pushing it in some very unAmerican territory. Sanders embraced it openly, Clinton would have tried to resist but would have been forced to capitulate to these far left "progressives".

If Trump keeps his promises, especially his ambitions to create jobs and take a more Conservative, almost Libertarian approach to the economy; he has a chance of leaving a great legacy. He has an open road really. He is not beholden to many, he has built his own great business and a successful brand. In short, he didn't need the job of president, he wants to do what is best regardless of either side. His open minded approach and lack of a rigid ideology as far as I am concerned is a powerful quality to possess.

Ultimately, each president contributes to the selection of the next. Obama was an outsider in many respects and he was elected to replace the direction Bush had pushed America. As such, Trump, the ultimate Outsider has been chosen to replace what didnt work before him.

Obama is a manifestation of the "alt-left".

At least Sanders is somewhat principled in his craziness.

 

[Pogo]

Watched the final speech by Obama. It was a positive one and respectful. I have to remind myself the economy he inherited and how worrisome it was for the global economy and how he turned it around and brought faith back in the economy. I have my issues with him on certain policies, but I never questioned his concern for the American people, the ways in which he believed he could assist long term simply differ than those who believe in economic conservative policies in particular.

I try and be objective, and I believe neither Sanders or Clinton would have been better than Obama was. The alt-left of the party had it's talons in the Democratic party and was pushing it in some very unAmerican territory. Sanders embraced it openly, Clinton would have tried to resist but would have been forced to capitulate to these far left "progressives".

If Trump keeps his promises, especially his ambitions to create jobs and take a more Conservative, almost Libertarian approach to the economy; he has a chance of leaving a great legacy. He has an open road really. He is not beholden to many, he has built his own great business and a successful brand. In short, he didn't need the job of president, he wants to do what is best regardless of either side. His open minded approach and lack of a rigid ideology as far as I am concerned is a powerful quality to possess.

Ultimately, each president contributes to the selection of the next. Obama was an outsider in many respects and he was elected to replace the direction Bush had pushed America. As such, Trump, the ultimate Outsider has been chosen to replace what didnt work before him.

Whelp --- you can't say what the road not taken would have led to as regards Clinton/Sanders. We'll never know. Fair thoughts on O'bama, especially on the economy, which we conveniently forget was really in the crapper eight years ago.

As for Rump, you are correct that he didn't need the job --- and in fact has never in his life actually held one, spending seventy years shirking all responsibility. The only reason he ran I'm convinced is sheer ego gratification --- the attention a campaign provides. I don't believe he expected to actually win the office, and now is in over his head with no real plan, since his objective has already run its course. So what actually comes of it is a complete crapshoot and left to chance. I don't believe his motivation is any deeper than the navel-gazing narcissism that he's spent his entire life immersed in, nor do I see any reason to suspect he'll suddenly pull a 180 on it.

 

[emilynghiem]

Sanders would have been more unifying than Obama, but couldn't get elected as a self proclaimed socialist. Clinton was the best bet to get elected but is so elitist as to undercut and throw colleagues under the bus to get ahead.

What's interesting to see, can the Greens Democrats and Libertarians left out of the loop manage to pull together their numbers and resources. If so we might see some Real unifying leadership come out of that crowd.

Up to this point Weve been rewarding the meaner bully who can undercut the competition.

What if we start rewarding credit for leadership to those who can best unite and collaborate on inclusive solutions


Why dont we start voting for people who build win win situations that benefit everyone equally . instead of rewarding the bigger meaner bully?

 

[BluesLegend]

Millions were fooled by Hillary's act, she in no way resembles the fabricated image she portrayed. She has a great many mental problems and scars, she absolutely would have been worse than Obama.