What's your best guess? (origin of all existence)

[G.T.]

This is one of my favorite topics, right beside time travel and the prospect of discovering Alien life.

A distinction: if you're cross-examining peoples' guesses, please be sure to remember they're calling them a guess and not a knowledge claim.

If I HAD to guess, and a gun was to my head - I would guess that existence is eternal, it was never "created" or "came" to be, but always was.

We talk a lot about time. Without time, the term "beginning" serves no purpose. What if time is simply a byproduct of Space - and something in "existence" created space, but existence itself isnt aged, as age is a function of time. I'm not even sure the human brain is capable of conceptualizing existence without the 4th dimension.

All crazy interesting stuff.....and it makes politics lame as fuck, to me.

 

[aaronleland]

Huh?

 

[G.T.]

Huh?

I wasnt talking about the casual sex outside of a diner which pre-determines in some way if Aaron Leland would be born a male, or a Llama.

 

[TNHarley]

A supreme being and it always existing is my main two. Obviously, i doubt man made "Creators" but not the idea itself. My reasons why are another thread.
Could we be an alien experiment? I think its just as possible as any other guess. Then again, we could be the first intelligent life in the universe. I dont think too many people even consider that..

 

[hobelim]

This is one of my favorite topics, right beside time travel and the prospect of discovering Alien life.

A distinction: if you're cross-examining peoples' guesses, please be sure to remember they're calling them a guess and not a knowledge claim.

If I HAD to guess, and a gun was to my head - I would guess that existence is eternal, it was never "created" or "came" to be, but always was.

We talk a lot about time. Without time, the term "beginning" serves no purpose. What if time is simply a byproduct of Space - and something in "existence" created space, but existence itself isnt aged, as age is a function of time. I'm not even sure the human brain is capable of conceptualizing existence without the 4th dimension.

All crazy interesting stuff.....and it makes politics lame as fuck, to me.

I heard that we don't even know what 96% of the universe even is..

If that's true our perception of actual reality is extremely limited.

I would suspect existence has something to do with what we can't see and know nothing about.

 

[G.T.]

A supreme being and it always existing is my main two. Obviously, i doubt man made "Creators" but not the idea itself. My reasons why are another thread.
Could we be an alien experiment? I think its just as possible as any other guess. Then again, we could be the first intelligent life in the universe. I dont think too many people even consider that..

I agree with all of this...except the part of us being the 1st intelligent life........seems improbable just because of the age and size.



1 thing I've seperated in my thoughts - is existence itself versus the existence of THIS universe....

So, if Aliens made us ~ or, if we're in some Computer model......the answer of where ultimate "existence" came from is left unanswered.


As to a super being, thats one of the many possibilities and it faces the same limitations as any other......like how "itself" came to be.

 

[G.T.]

This is one of my favorite topics, right beside time travel and the prospect of discovering Alien life.

A distinction: if you're cross-examining peoples' guesses, please be sure to remember they're calling them a guess and not a knowledge claim.

If I HAD to guess, and a gun was to my head - I would guess that existence is eternal, it was never "created" or "came" to be, but always was.

We talk a lot about time. Without time, the term "beginning" serves no purpose. What if time is simply a byproduct of Space - and something in "existence" created space, but existence itself isnt aged, as age is a function of time. I'm not even sure the human brain is capable of conceptualizing existence without the 4th dimension.

All crazy interesting stuff.....and it makes politics lame as fuck, to me.

I heard that we don't even know what 96% of the universe even is..

If that's true our perception of actual reality is extremely limited.

I would suspect existence has something to do with what we can't see and know nothing about.

Thats another cool one, is that there are dimensions all around us that we can't even perceive.

 

[hobelim]

A supreme being and it always existing is my main two. Obviously, i doubt man made "Creators" but not the idea itself. My reasons why are another thread.
Could we be an alien experiment? I think its just as possible as any other guess. Then again, we could be the first intelligent life in the universe. I dont think too many people even consider that..

if what was described in the bible as encounters with angelic beings happened today people would report having made contact with aliens.

 

[G.T.]

A supreme being and it always existing is my main two. Obviously, i doubt man made "Creators" but not the idea itself. My reasons why are another thread.
Could we be an alien experiment? I think its just as possible as any other guess. Then again, we could be the first intelligent life in the universe. I dont think too many people even consider that..

if what was described in the bible as encounters with angelic beings happened today people would report having made contact with aliens.

If intelligent Aliens didnt exist in LARGE numbers all throughout the Universe, I'd be seriously surprised. I think if I was forced to, I would bet my life on it.

 

[Marion Morrison]

pineapple

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

A supreme being and it always existing is my main two. Obviously, i doubt man made "Creators" but not the idea itself. My reasons why are another thread.
Could we be an alien experiment? I think its just as possible as any other guess. Then again, we could be the first intelligent life in the universe. I dont think too many people even consider that..

if what was described in the bible as encounters with angelic beings happened today people would report having made contact with aliens.

Carl Sagan, "The Demon-Haunted World".

 

[forkup]

This is one of my favorite topics, right beside time travel and the prospect of discovering Alien life.

A distinction: if you're cross-examining peoples' guesses, please be sure to remember they're calling them a guess and not a knowledge claim.

If I HAD to guess, and a gun was to my head - I would guess that existence is eternal, it was never "created" or "came" to be, but always was.

We talk a lot about time. Without time, the term "beginning" serves no purpose. What if time is simply a byproduct of Space - and something in "existence" created space, but existence itself isnt aged, as age is a function of time. I'm not even sure the human brain is capable of conceptualizing existence without the 4th dimension.

All crazy interesting stuff.....and it makes politics lame as fuck, to me.

Chance. Pure chance. If you give something enough tries anything and everything no matter how unlikely will occur, this includes existence.

 

[G.T.]

This is one of my favorite topics, right beside time travel and the prospect of discovering Alien life.

A distinction: if you're cross-examining peoples' guesses, please be sure to remember they're calling them a guess and not a knowledge claim.

If I HAD to guess, and a gun was to my head - I would guess that existence is eternal, it was never "created" or "came" to be, but always was.

We talk a lot about time. Without time, the term "beginning" serves no purpose. What if time is simply a byproduct of Space - and something in "existence" created space, but existence itself isnt aged, as age is a function of time. I'm not even sure the human brain is capable of conceptualizing existence without the 4th dimension.

All crazy interesting stuff.....and it makes politics lame as fuck, to me.

Chance. Pure chance. If you give something enough tries anything and everything no matter how unlikely will occur, this includes existence.

What does giving existence tries entail? Can you flesh that out...

 

[ZZ PUPPS]

GT is obviously the byproduct of a relationship between an intelligent alien and a cantaloupe.

 

[deltex1]

Time is a human concern. No concern of God.

 

[G.T.]

GT is obviously the byproduct of a relationship between an intelligent alien and a cantaloupe.

Awesome, poopz.

 

[G.T.]

Time is a human concern. No concern of God.

How would you guess God came to exist...

 

[Hossfly]

Time is a human concern. No concern of God.

 

[forkup]

This is one of my favorite topics, right beside time travel and the prospect of discovering Alien life.

A distinction: if you're cross-examining peoples' guesses, please be sure to remember they're calling them a guess and not a knowledge claim.

If I HAD to guess, and a gun was to my head - I would guess that existence is eternal, it was never "created" or "came" to be, but always was.

We talk a lot about time. Without time, the term "beginning" serves no purpose. What if time is simply a byproduct of Space - and something in "existence" created space, but existence itself isnt aged, as age is a function of time. I'm not even sure the human brain is capable of conceptualizing existence without the 4th dimension.

All crazy interesting stuff.....and it makes politics lame as fuck, to me.

Chance. Pure chance. If you give something enough tries anything and everything no matter how unlikely will occur, this includes existence.

What does giving existence tries entail? Can you flesh that out...

Well look at it as abiogenesis which at the moment is the best way to explain our existence. At some point we didn't exist until after a LOT of time non living matter came together to form a self replicating molecule. After that natural selection took over. Now imagine this happening on an infinite timescale and on the scale of a universe.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Current physics holds that the universe came into existence out of nothing. Most people think this means there was just empty space. No there was not even empty space, you have to take the absolute meaning of nothing as in at the edge of the universe now there is nothing on the other side, there is no other side. It is an expanding bubble that creates space itself. Mathmatics support a universe appearing out of nothing.

Time only measures change. Imagine the universe as empty. No matter, no stars, no planets. And you were immortal and could sit for billions of years from any viewpoint and watch. Nothing at all would happen and you wouldn't know time had passed. Nothing changed. 'Travel' to the future or the past (an imaginary time travel), you'd see exactly the same thing either way.

The one thing that is to be noted is, if space is expanding that means new space is continually created. The universe gets larger so the empty space itself is increading in size. I think this likely has a connection to the dark energy and dark matter that physicists are now exploring. Space itself is a medium. Like water to a fish.