When tolerance is tested

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The op hates freedom and wants to paint millions of people as undeserving of freedom and rights. Sick.

I hate freedom? Explain how. Did anyone read the post or did they just cherrypick it?

Aaaaand this is why I don't post here more often than I do...

You voted for Trump, who made clear his hatred of immigrants and Muslims, who promised to appoint justices to the Supreme Court hostile to the equal protection rights of gay Americans and the privacy rights of women – clearly you wouldn’t have voted for someone unless you agreed with and supported his hateful agenda hostile to the freedom of all the American people.

 

[TemplarKormac]

And Trump is in fact a threat to the rights and protected liberties of gay and transgender Americans

Interesting... so why would he employ them at his business if he were a threat to their rights and protected liberties?

 

[TemplarKormac]

The op hates freedom and wants to paint millions of people as undeserving of freedom and rights. Sick.

I hate freedom? Explain how. Did anyone read the post or did they just cherrypick it?

Aaaaand this is why I don't post here more often than I do...

You voted for Trump, who made clear his hatred of immigrants and Muslims, who promised to appoint justices to the Supreme Court hostile to the equal protection rights of gay Americans and the privacy rights of women – clearly you wouldn’t have voted for someone unless you agreed with and supported his hateful agenda hostile to the freedom of all the American people.

Oh wow, and you just got through lecturing me about not using stereotypes. You hypocrite.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Roy Moore believes gay sex should be criminalized, and yet you can be almost certain the Republican senate will agree to seat him if he wins that election.

That is my message to gays who choose to be Republicans. You're defined to a great degree by who your friends are.

And that is why you can never be taken seriously on the issue of tolerance and acceptance. When you define and classify people, you aren't tolerating them, you are alienating them. That which goes against the very premise and platform of your liberal beliefs. Yet it is equality in ridicule, not in rights or opinion.

You defeated your own argument. Congratulations.

 

[aaronleland]

Being heterosexual

How are we supposed to take your thread seriously when you're blatantly lying in the first post?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Being heterosexual

How are we supposed to take your thread seriously when you're blatantly lying in the first post?

Lol Aaron.

 

[Seawytch]

A true test of tolerance comes when the LGBT community has someone within that community who is a Republican. What some of them seem to forget is that they are fighting for the same rights, but from the other side of the aisle. It's one thing to say "you're wrong, and here's why" whilst laying out a principled argument, it is another to completely marginalize and vilify them for supporting someone you deem as a "threat" to your rights.

Hmph, at least try to be objective. Don't just play the part, just freaking do it. It's not hard. I'm a Christian with gay friends, is being gay against my faith? Well, yes, it is, but am I going to shove that down someone else's throat? No, a friend is a friend no matter who they choose to go to bed with. Being heterosexual, it's quite frankly none of my concern. God made us all.

I just wish sometimes the LGBT community wouldn't let it's fringe elements define who they are. Because there are some truly fine people out there who are gay. It's good to fight for your rights, but it's wrong to fight each other. If you want to be tolerated or better yet accepted in society, start by practicing those things amongst yourselves. All the hatred that gay people deal with, they shouldn't be directing it against one another.

But who am I to lecture? I'll leave this to you to ponder in the days leading up to Thanksgiving Holiday. Yes, THANKSGIVING. Christmas is a month and half away. Sheesh.

Later...

The LGBT community doesn't let the fringe elements define who they are. People like you use the fringe elements to define the LGBT community,

in order to rationalize your own hatred and bigotry.

^^That^^

You make this easy for me.

If the fringe does not define you, as someone who is gay (you told me once before), then why can't the baker, florist, cakemaker or photographer serve who he please without the fringe making threats against him and ruining his livelihood? What about that Pizzaria in Indiana? Where are you when members of a brutal Islamic cult ruthlessly execute gay people?

If the fringe doesn't define you, why aren't you speaking out against these things? Why aren't members of the gay community out there trying to bridge the divide instead of widening it like you and Carbine are?

You're all over the place? What does one have to do with the other?

No group should be defined by their anomalous fringe elements.

If there is a PA law where you operate a business, don't violate it.

Any other topics you want to discuss that are unrelated?

 

[TemplarKormac]

No group should be defined by their anomalous fringe elements.

So, what about Christians? Gun owners? Republicans in general? Trump voters? Do you believe that principle applies to them as well?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Who are you again to dictate to millions of Americans what they can do in their lives? If they wish to be gay. Good for them. I hope they enjoy the cock in the ass.

 

[Slyhunter]

Roy Moore believes gay sex should be criminalized, and yet you can be almost certain the Republican senate will agree to seat him if he wins that election.

That is my message to gays who choose to be Republicans. You're defined to a great degree by who your friends are.

They have no choice but to seat him. Should they not then they violate that States right at picking it's own representative.

 

[Slyhunter]

If someone wants to open a Red Neck store and sell only to Red Necks it should be his right to do so. Freedom of Association. If your not a Red Neck and you want to buy something from his store that nobody else sells, open your own fucking store and sell it.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You're all over the place? What does one have to do with the other?

No, I'm not.

When anyone expresses a contrary opinion against homosexuality, it is most often the fringe element that responds er, retaliates. However, when radical Islamic terrorists execute homosexuals and there are actual theocracies out in the middle east who make homosexuality a punishable offense, it seems as if they are nowhere to be found.

 

[Lastamender]

A true test of tolerance comes when the LGBT community has someone within that community who is a Republican. What some of them seem to forget is that they are fighting for the same rights, but from the other side of the aisle. It's one thing to say "you're wrong, and here's why" whilst laying out a principled argument, it is another to completely marginalize and vilify them for supporting someone you deem as a "threat" to your rights.

Hmph, at least try to be objective. Don't just play the part, just freaking do it. It's not hard. I'm a Christian with gay friends, is being gay against my faith? Well, yes, it is, but am I going to shove that down someone else's throat? No, a friend is a friend no matter who they choose to go to bed with. Being heterosexual, it's quite frankly none of my concern. God made us all.

I just wish sometimes the LGBT community wouldn't let it's fringe elements define who they are. Because there are some truly fine people out there who are gay. It's good to fight for your rights, but it's wrong to fight each other. If you want to be tolerated or better yet accepted in society, start by practicing those things amongst yourselves. All the hatred that gay people deal with, they shouldn't be directing it against one another.

But who am I to lecture? I'll leave this to you to ponder in the days leading up to Thanksgiving Holiday. Yes, THANKSGIVING. Christmas is a month and half away. Sheesh.

Later...

The LGBT community doesn't let the fringe elements define who they are. People like you use the fringe elements to define the LGBT community,

in order to rationalize your own hatred and bigotry.

The LGBT is a fringe group.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Who are you again to dictate to millions of Americans what they can do in their lives? If they wish to be gay. Good for them. I hope they enjoy the cock in the ass.

Ahem, did you even read the thread? Or did you come with your pre packaged responses? I am not saying anything of the sort. Where in this thread did I say anything about dictating the lives of others, let alone homosexuals?

 

[Seawytch]

You're all over the place? What does one have to do with the other?

No, I'm not.

When anyone expresses a contrary opinion against homosexuality, it is most often the fringe element that responds er, retaliates. However, when radical Islamic terrorists execute homosexuals and there are actual theocracies out in the middle east who make homosexuality a punishable offense, it seems as if they are nowhere to be found.

Christ! You've jumped from painting groups based on fringe elements to bakers violating PA laws and now you've leaped to Islamic extremists in other fucking countries? Seriously dude, pick a subject and try formulating a coherent thought on it.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You're all over the place? What does one have to do with the other?

No, I'm not.

When anyone expresses a contrary opinion against homosexuality, it is most often the fringe element that responds er, retaliates. However, when radical Islamic terrorists execute homosexuals and there are actual theocracies out in the middle east who make homosexuality a punishable offense, it seems as if they are nowhere to be found.

Christ! You've jumped from painting groups based on fringe elements to bakers violating PA laws and now you've leaped to Islamic extremists in other fucking countries? Seriously dude, pick a subject and try formulating a coherent thought on it.

Seems to me like you're dodging. If you don't have a valid argument, just say so. It's okay once in a while to say "I can't handle the truth."

 

[Slyhunter]

Fringe groups trying to force Bakeries to cook gay cakes, or show up in middle of Catholic service to chant and interrupt service. Or have one of their outlandish gay day parades with they all dress up like freaks and prance around in public. It is these people who make gay folks look bad.

Fringe groups thinking any mention of a person being gay should be outlawed in public. Ostracizing gay folk because they party at a gay club with other people like themselves. Wanting to outlaw porn, like Hannity does, and legislate morality into law code makes Christians look bad. And definitely Muslims.


Cartoons should not teach that gay is acceptable. They shouldn't mention anything sexual at all one way or the other. Broadcasting gay material on public TV where christian children can see it is wrong. It's not thinking about the parents of those Christian children. It doesn't need to be on every channel. Allow a channel or two to be parental free Children friendly television.

 

[Seawytch]

You're all over the place? What does one have to do with the other?

No, I'm not.

When anyone expresses a contrary opinion against homosexuality, it is most often the fringe element that responds er, retaliates. However, when radical Islamic terrorists execute homosexuals and there are actual theocracies out in the middle east who make homosexuality a punishable offense, it seems as if they are nowhere to be found.

Christ! You've jumped from painting groups based on fringe elements to bakers violating PA laws and now you've leaped to Islamic extremists in other fucking countries? Seriously dude, pick a subject and try formulating a coherent thought on it.

Seems to me like you're dodging. If you don't have a valid argument, just say so. It's okay once in a while to say "I can't handle the truth."

Come up with a single cogent thought first. Pin something down. Which of the three topics you brought up do you want to discuss?

Do you want to discuss fringe elements in a group? That is a broad topic as there are fringe elements in every group.

Do you want to discuss public accommodation laws? Okay, but it has been done to death and gone round and round, but if you like smacking dead equines, go ahead.

Or do you want to discuss Islamic Extremism in other countries?

Pick one, we can see where it goes.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

A true test of tolerance comes when the LGBT community has someone within that community who is a Republican. What some of them seem to forget is that they are fighting for the same rights, but from the other side of the aisle. It's one thing to say "you're wrong, and here's why" whilst laying out a principled argument, it is another to completely marginalize and vilify them for supporting someone you deem as a "threat" to your rights.

Hmph, at least try to be objective. Don't just play the part, just freaking do it. It's not hard. I'm a Christian with gay friends, is being gay against my faith? Well, yes, it is, but am I going to shove that down someone else's throat? No, a friend is a friend no matter who they choose to go to bed with. Being heterosexual, it's quite frankly none of my concern. God made us all.

I just wish sometimes the LGBT community wouldn't let it's fringe elements define who they are. Because there are some truly fine people out there who are gay. It's good to fight for your rights, but it's wrong to fight each other. If you want to be tolerated or better yet accepted in society, start by practicing those things amongst yourselves. All the hatred that gay people deal with, they shouldn't be directing it against one another.

But who am I to lecture? I'll leave this to you to ponder in the days leading up to Thanksgiving Holiday. Yes, THANKSGIVING. Christmas is a month and half away. Sheesh.

Later...

The LGBT community doesn't let the fringe elements define who they are. People like you use the fringe elements to define the LGBT community,

in order to rationalize your own hatred and bigotry.

Lesbians and gays have always been on the fringe. That has nothing to do with hatred and bigotry. It actually is antithetical to Darwinism and natural selection. Of course I do have problems with the lack of transitional fossils in stratum but thats another topic.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Roy Moore believes gay sex should be criminalized, and yet you can be almost certain the Republican senate will agree to seat him if he wins that election.

That is my message to gays who choose to be Republicans. You're defined to a great degree by who your friends are.

And that is why you can never be taken seriously on the issue of tolerance and acceptance. When you define and classify people, you aren't tolerating them, you are alienating them. That which goes against the very premise and platform of your liberal beliefs. Yet it is equality in ridicule, not in rights or opinion.

You defeated your own argument. Congratulations.

1. Do you dispute that Roy Moore believes gay sex should be criminalized?
2. Do you dispute that Roy Moore is a Republican?
3. Do you dispute the likelihood that the Senate will vote to seat him if he wins the election?