Where do you want to put The Wall?

The Wall should go on which side of the Rio Grande?

  • Mexico side = watch them dam it and then tear down the wall

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Neither works but ignore the treaty and geography and build anyway

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    8
  • Poll closed .
Herr drumpf has said he wants to take land away from Americans as well as Mexicans. Some Americans agree, though not the ones who would lose their homes!

Then there's the cost - Quoted at $4million per mile or more. No problem though, cuz Mexico is paying. Right? The president of the US promised that. Many many many many many many many times. All lies and coincidentally, the same number of times he lied about Mexico paying for it. He also said he loves debt and that's the truth of this - just charge it to our elderly and our descendants.

Many of the most ignorant will say foolish things like "round them up and deport them". Obviously, they don't think that rash statement through. Those same people will also say they are against driver's licenses or other ways of actually tracking undocumented/illegals. Go figure.

So, now that we've covered that, let's get to location, location, location ...

No, the Rio Grande aka Rio Bravo does not belong only to the US. Nor does it belong wholly to Mexico. There are treaties to consider and no, the US does not get to just steal the river, even though drumpf will likely say otherwise.

Almost 1900 miles long, the river flows through three US states and two countries. Its still the third largest US river but has been dammed and polluted until most of what it once was is gone. It is sometimes dry and sometimes floods. There are times when Mexico does not share and times when the US does not.

There's actually a lot of moving parts to this question so ===

Happy reading ... What do you think?

Rio Grande/Rio Bravo

http://www.ibwc.state.gov/CRP/riogrande.htm

Rio Grande - Wikipedia

The wall: Building a continuous US-Mexico barrier would be a tall order

I'd like to jam the entirety of it right into your colon.

Gosh, Marion Morrison, you reacted exactly like your avatar would have. He was a drunk, a womanizer, a woman and child abuser and like you, a coward.

Well, at least you can take comfort in not being the only ignorant RWNJ who didn't have the integrity or courage to actually address the issue.
 
It's those guilty wealthy white elitists that live in a galaxy far far away from illegal aliens that hire them at the expense of American workers, THEY are the ones empowering illegals. It's not about fair and open imigration anymore, it's more about entitled assholes dictating
I got illegals living all around me, a thousand miles from the border. Twenty years down the road, after all malarkey, we don't NEED a wall. What we really need is businesses and libs/repcons to stop legitimizing hiring illegals and people making this something it isn't. Nobody is above the law, especially those that hire them. But it seems they are dominating the issue.


Wrong again.

You might want to look at who is hiring illegals and from which countries.

And ICE is complicit.
I went to an INS office back in the early 90's, complaining about all the illegals and the lack of enforcement of immigration laws THEN. I was told that Regan back in the 80's had pretty much emasculated immigration enforcement .Because it was GOOD FOR BUSINESS. Here I am in my pretty pink skirt looking all pretty being all naive and believing the government represents us all . But I realized it;'s about who makes the money here.That is all a Democratic Republic IS. Those that bitch the most or have money. The rest of us have nothing.
 
Herr drumpf has said he wants to take land away from Americans as well as Mexicans. Some Americans agree, though not the ones who would lose their homes!

Then there's the cost - Quoted at $4million per mile or more. No problem though, cuz Mexico is paying. Right? The president of the US promised that. Many many many many many many many times. All lies and coincidentally, the same number of times he lied about Mexico paying for it. He also said he loves debt and that's the truth of this - just charge it to our elderly and our descendants.

Many of the most ignorant will say foolish things like "round them up and deport them". Obviously, they don't think that rash statement through. Those same people will also say they are against driver's licenses or other ways of actually tracking undocumented/illegals. Go figure.

So, now that we've covered that, let's get to location, location, location ...

No, the Rio Grande aka Rio Bravo does not belong only to the US. Nor does it belong wholly to Mexico. There are treaties to consider and no, the US does not get to just steal the river, even though drumpf will likely say otherwise.

Almost 1900 miles long, the river flows through three US states and two countries. Its still the third largest US river but has been dammed and polluted until most of what it once was is gone. It is sometimes dry and sometimes floods. There are times when Mexico does not share and times when the US does not.

There's actually a lot of moving parts to this question so ===

Happy reading ... What do you think?

Rio Grande/Rio Bravo

http://www.ibwc.state.gov/CRP/riogrande.htm

Rio Grande - Wikipedia

The wall: Building a continuous US-Mexico barrier would be a tall order
The right wing prefers to "ditch capitalism" for their socialism on a national basis, whenever possible.
 
It's those guilty wealthy white elitists that live in a galaxy far far away from illegal aliens that hire them at the expense of American workers, THEY are the ones empowering illegals. It's not about fair and open imigration anymore, it's more about entitled assholes dictating
I got illegals living all around me, a thousand miles from the border. Twenty years down the road, after all malarkey, we don't NEED a wall. What we really need is businesses and libs/repcons to stop legitimizing hiring illegals and people making this something it isn't. Nobody is above the law, especially those that hire them. But it seems they are dominating the issue.


Wrong again.

You might want to look at who is hiring illegals and from which countries.

And ICE is complicit.
I went to an INS office back in the early 90's, complaining about all the illegals and the lack of enforcement of immigration laws THEN. I was told that Regan back in the 80's had pretty much emasculated immigration enforcement .Because it was GOOD FOR BUSINESS. Here I am in my pretty pink skirt looking all pretty being all naive and believing the government represents us all . But I realized it;'s about who makes the money here.That is all a Democratic Republic IS. Those that bitch the most or have money. The rest of us have nothing.
first degrees should go, first.
 
It's those guilty wealthy white elitists that live in a galaxy far far away from illegal aliens that hire them at the expense of American workers, THEY are the ones empowering illegals. It's not about fair and open imigration anymore, it's more about entitled assholes dictating
I got illegals living all around me, a thousand miles from the border. Twenty years down the road, after all malarkey, we don't NEED a wall. What we really need is businesses and libs/repcons to stop legitimizing hiring illegals and people making this something it isn't. Nobody is above the law, especially those that hire them. But it seems they are dominating the issue.


Wrong again.

You might want to look at who is hiring illegals and from which countries.

And ICE is complicit.
I went to an INS office back in the early 90's, complaining about all the illegals and the lack of enforcement of immigration laws THEN. I was told that Regan back in the 80's had pretty much emasculated immigration enforcement .Because it was GOOD FOR BUSINESS. Here I am in my pretty pink skirt looking all pretty being all naive and believing the government represents us all . But I realized it;'s about who makes the money here.That is all a Democratic Republic IS. Those that bitch the most or have money. The rest of us have nothing.
first degrees should go, first.
If all those that like illegals, they need to actually live with them, 24/7. Cheek to jowl. For a years. Not this pandering game sympathizing/empathizing and and all that. ACTUALLY live with the illegal Mexicans. You do that, then come back here ten years hence, we will see were all that liberal bullshit open minded tolerance goes. Try that as an experiment. I doubt you can do it.
 
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There is no need for a physical wall any longer, and Trump should understand this now. It is a matter of stopping the draw here from within, and the making good on existing immigration laws, deport criminals, and shore up the border with technology, gaurd towers strategically placed, man power given the ability to do their jobs, and arrest American's who stand in the way of any of this. Americans standing in the way of this nation applying immigration law will be arrested. Enough is enough.


This is the second time (in my memory) and were a disaster, just as the first time was.

Feds ready to build virtual fence along Arizona-Mexico border

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It's those guilty wealthy white elitists that live in a galaxy far far away from illegal aliens that hire them at the expense of American workers, THEY are the ones empowering illegals. It's not about fair and open imigration anymore, it's more about entitled assholes dictating
I got illegals living all around me, a thousand miles from the border. Twenty years down the road, after all malarkey, we don't NEED a wall. What we really need is businesses and libs/repcons to stop legitimizing hiring illegals and people making this something it isn't. Nobody is above the law, especially those that hire them. But it seems they are dominating the issue.


Wrong again.

You might want to look at who is hiring illegals and from which countries.

And ICE is complicit.
I went to an INS office back in the early 90's, complaining about all the illegals and the lack of enforcement of immigration laws THEN. I was told that Regan back in the 80's had pretty much emasculated immigration enforcement .Because it was GOOD FOR BUSINESS. Here I am in my pretty pink skirt looking all pretty being all naive and believing the government represents us all . But I realized it;'s about who makes the money here.That is all a Democratic Republic IS. Those that bitch the most or have money. The rest of us have nothing.


The 90s?

And yet, in an earlier post (32), you said "Twenty years down the road, after all malarkey, we don't NEED a wall."

The ones who advertise in Mexico and transport them up here "have the money".

Could it be you're starting to understand?
 
It's those guilty wealthy white elitists that live in a galaxy far far away from illegal aliens that hire them at the expense of American workers, THEY are the ones empowering illegals. It's not about fair and open imigration anymore, it's more about entitled assholes dictating
I got illegals living all around me, a thousand miles from the border. Twenty years down the road, after all malarkey, we don't NEED a wall. What we really need is businesses and libs/repcons to stop legitimizing hiring illegals and people making this something it isn't. Nobody is above the law, especially those that hire them. But it seems they are dominating the issue.


Wrong again.

You might want to look at who is hiring illegals and from which countries.

And ICE is complicit.
I went to an INS office back in the early 90's, complaining about all the illegals and the lack of enforcement of immigration laws THEN. I was told that Regan back in the 80's had pretty much emasculated immigration enforcement .Because it was GOOD FOR BUSINESS. Here I am in my pretty pink skirt looking all pretty being all naive and believing the government represents us all . But I realized it;'s about who makes the money here.That is all a Democratic Republic IS. Those that bitch the most or have money. The rest of us have nothing.
first degrees should go, first.
If all those that like illegals, they need to actually live with them, 24/7. Cheek to jowl. For a years. Not this pandering game sympathizing/empathizing and and all that. ACTUALLY live with the illegal Mexicans. You do that, then come back here ten years hence, we will see were all that liberal bullshit open minded tolerance goes. Try that as an experiment. I doubt you can do it.


I did. For more than 25 years.

I would trade them for the hateful RWNJ pooting lovers any day.

They love the US. RWNJs do not.

Back to the OP - which side of the river?
 
It's those guilty wealthy white elitists that live in a galaxy far far away from illegal aliens that hire them at the expense of American workers, THEY are the ones empowering illegals. It's not about fair and open imigration anymore, it's more about entitled assholes dictating
I got illegals living all around me, a thousand miles from the border. Twenty years down the road, after all malarkey, we don't NEED a wall. What we really need is businesses and libs/repcons to stop legitimizing hiring illegals and people making this something it isn't. Nobody is above the law, especially those that hire them. But it seems they are dominating the issue.


Wrong again.

You might want to look at who is hiring illegals and from which countries.

And ICE is complicit.
I went to an INS office back in the early 90's, complaining about all the illegals and the lack of enforcement of immigration laws THEN. I was told that Regan back in the 80's had pretty much emasculated immigration enforcement .Because it was GOOD FOR BUSINESS. Here I am in my pretty pink skirt looking all pretty being all naive and believing the government represents us all . But I realized it;'s about who makes the money here.That is all a Democratic Republic IS. Those that bitch the most or have money. The rest of us have nothing.
first degrees should go, first.
If all those that like illegals, they need to actually live with them, 24/7. Cheek to jowl. For a years. Not this pandering game sympathizing/empathizing and and all that. ACTUALLY live with the illegal Mexicans. You do that, then come back here ten years hence, we will see were all that liberal bullshit open minded tolerance goes. Try that as an experiment. I doubt you can do it.
nothing but propaganda and rhetoric? first degrees should go, first.
 
How much does it cost to immigrate legally? I know a few Europeans that fled communism and they paid the price, lawyers and such. Mexicans aren't fleeing communism or death. Mexicans live next door, they think creeping and sneaking is the same as fleeing? I don't think so. Don't kid your self. "Mexican" so called immigrants aren't fleeing death squads, they are economic refugees. Don't we already have enough POOR that need jobs here already?
 
Herr drumpf has said he wants to take land away from Americans as well as Mexicans. Some Americans agree, though not the ones who would lose their homes!

Then there's the cost - Quoted at $4million per mile or more. No problem though, cuz Mexico is paying. Right? The president of the US promised that. Many many many many many many many times. All lies and coincidentally, the same number of times he lied about Mexico paying for it. He also said he loves debt and that's the truth of this - just charge it to our elderly and our descendants.

Many of the most ignorant will say foolish things like "round them up and deport them". Obviously, they don't think that rash statement through. Those same people will also say they are against driver's licenses or other ways of actually tracking undocumented/illegals. Go figure.

So, now that we've covered that, let's get to location, location, location ...

No, the Rio Grande aka Rio Bravo does not belong only to the US. Nor does it belong wholly to Mexico. There are treaties to consider and no, the US does not get to just steal the river, even though drumpf will likely say otherwise.

Almost 1900 miles long, the river flows through three US states and two countries. Its still the third largest US river but has been dammed and polluted until most of what it once was is gone. It is sometimes dry and sometimes floods. There are times when Mexico does not share and times when the US does not.

There's actually a lot of moving parts to this question so ===

Happy reading ... What do you think?

Rio Grande/Rio Bravo

http://www.ibwc.state.gov/CRP/riogrande.htm

Rio Grande - Wikipedia

The wall: Building a continuous US-Mexico barrier would be a tall order

1. It's not taking land away if the 12-30 MILLION Mexican Nationals living and working "undocumented/illegally" in the US claim that land for their legal residency.

2. And instead of "just building a wall"
why not build entire city complexes and campus development
for military bases and teaching hospitals, factory jobs and educational and social services:

Earned Amnesty

This can be a WIN WIN situation.
Why not create jobs and work opportunities under a collaborative plan that both immigrant workers/families, businesses and church charities, AND law enforcement/govt would support?
 
1. If they live their illegally is it technically legal for them to own property. Like if Trump says the rule for everyone is that is you are caught living here illegally you immediately will be deported. That's the flaw in that argument for usage it's easy to prove that it's illegal to have property if the baseline is its illegal to even be on our soil no matter where you reside.
 
Herr drumpf has said he wants to take land away from Americans as well as Mexicans. Some Americans agree, though not the ones who would lose their homes!

Then there's the cost - Quoted at $4million per mile or more. No problem though, cuz Mexico is paying. Right? The president of the US promised that. Many many many many many many many times. All lies and coincidentally, the same number of times he lied about Mexico paying for it. He also said he loves debt and that's the truth of this - just charge it to our elderly and our descendants.

Many of the most ignorant will say foolish things like "round them up and deport them". Obviously, they don't think that rash statement through. Those same people will also say they are against driver's licenses or other ways of actually tracking undocumented/illegals. Go figure.

So, now that we've covered that, let's get to location, location, location ...

No, the Rio Grande aka Rio Bravo does not belong only to the US. Nor does it belong wholly to Mexico. There are treaties to consider and no, the US does not get to just steal the river, even though drumpf will likely say otherwise.

Almost 1900 miles long, the river flows through three US states and two countries. Its still the third largest US river but has been dammed and polluted until most of what it once was is gone. It is sometimes dry and sometimes floods. There are times when Mexico does not share and times when the US does not.

There's actually a lot of moving parts to this question so ===

Happy reading ... What do you think?

Rio Grande/Rio Bravo

http://www.ibwc.state.gov/CRP/riogrande.htm

Rio Grande - Wikipedia

The wall: Building a continuous US-Mexico barrier would be a tall order
Like most moronic rightwing schemes, the notion of a ‘wall’ is predicated on fear, ignorance, hate, and stupidity – and zero facts.



While the lib scheme of allowing unrestricted Third World immigration benefits them politically at the cost of massive harm to America and Americans.
 
. Two different kinds of things even though spelled and pronounced the same. One is literal, and the other is metaphorically speaking. Both can have teeth, but the most powerful one is the multi-layered approach that includes the same strategies of winning a war. There needs to be a meeting of the minds, and Trump should do what he does best, and that is to evaluate, investigate, rationalize, create a strategy based upon the knowledge aquirred from it all, and get the job done. Enough of the call's by people wanting for Trump to make a fool of himself, and therefore costing us millions upon millions we or Mexico don't need to spend. A better result would be to do the right thing, and then focus on more important things like lowering the dam retirement age to 58, and then 62 for full benefits to kick in. Make social security solvent. Do away with the dam inheritance tax or death tax as was promised, and start making America great again. Quit wasting this countries money already.. Enough is enough.


Sorry, the time for a calm discussion on the best way to address the problem, was squandered on race baiting and demagoguery.

NOw we need to do everything and do it now.

NO TALK, ACTION.
. Pride comes before the fall, and we are smarter than that. Allowing the liberals to bait Trump or anyone into making fools of themselves should be avoided. Time to show them how dam smart this nation is going to become again. Fox news host need to be highly on alert for being set up by liberals acting as if they are becoming level headed, when they are just trying to make them look like fools in every way that they can.


You are the one being proud, who thinks that THIS TIME we can have a real nuanced discussion on the issue, when every other time it is demagogued to DEATH by the vile race baiting leftists.
 
How much does it cost to immigrate legally? I know a few Europeans that fled communism and they paid the price, lawyers and such. Mexicans aren't fleeing communism or death. Mexicans live next door, they think creeping and sneaking is the same as fleeing? I don't think so. Don't kid your self. "Mexican" so called immigrants aren't fleeing death squads, they are economic refugees. Don't we already have enough POOR that need jobs here already?
It is our public policies that are causing many of the problems of Latin America.
 

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