Where The Money Scott Walker Is Cutting From Universities Is Going

[Socialist]

Shall we take this as an admission that you lack an education?

I don't care how you take it, you're an idiot. My point (and I'm not surprised you missed it) is that most people find that the "education" they received is inadequate and end up having to get a REAL education (the kind you pay for with your own money) before they can find work in their chosen field. But since your chosen field is probably collecting welfare, you wouldn't know about that.

Please back up your claims with some kind of link.

Why bother? I'm not trying to convince you of something everyone already knows.

So, you are spewing bullshit without evidence? Who would of thought?

Nah, he's right. Everyone in the real working world knows this.

There's a reason why US pay-for-service colleges routinely out perform higher education colleges from around the world.

There's a reason why the private colleges routinely out perform the public university schools.

There's a reason why private k-12 schools out perform free public schools.

"Routinely out perform" On what scale? Mind giving evidence?
Yeah, "pay for service" so only cater to those who can afford it, fuck the rest.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I don't see how anyone could defend nut jobs like Scott Walker..
Where The Money Scott Walker Is Cutting From Universities Is Going ThinkProgress

MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN — On Thursday, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker unveiled the latest plan for building a new $500 million basketball stadium for the Milwaukee Bucks, half of which would be paid for with taxpayer money, and half by the team’s current and former owners. Because stadium projects — including Milwaukee’s own Miller Park — have been known to run significantly over budget, the public contribution would be capped at $250 million.

This is exactly the amount that Governor Walker and his allies in the legislature plan to cut from the University of Wisconsin system.

Flanked by posters reading “Cheaper To Keep Them,” Governor Walker argued that building a new stadium is more responsible than repairing the old one, or potentially losing the NBA team to another city.

“The price of ‘no’ has a cost, and we believe it’s at least $419 million dollars over the next 20 years,” said Walker, as he explained that under his new plan, $80 million dollars in stadium funding would come from all Wisconsin taxpayers, and the remaining $170 million from “a variety of sources at the local level.”

“For every dollar the state invests, it’s three dollars in return,” claimed Walker. “By every measure, it truly protects the taxpayers. It’s not only important to Milwaukee, but it’s also something I can say is a good for lawmakers anywhere in the state.”

But many Wisconsinites, including economics professor Michael Rosen at Milwaukee Area Technical College, vehemently disagree.

“You could do more for the local economy by taking a plane over the city of Milwaukee and dropping $500 million dollars down. That would generate more economic activity than building a stadium,” he told ThinkProgress. “People have a fixed entertainment budget. So if they go see the Bucks and spend $60 or $80 on a ticket, that’s money they’re not using to go to the theater or movies or out to eat. It’s not new money, it’s just redistributed. That’s why stadiums have no positive impact on economic growth.” He also noted that most Bucks player don’t live year-round in Milwaukee, so “millions of dollars in their salaries will leak out of the community.”

Milwaukee workers say they’ll oppose any Bucks stadium deal that doesn’t guarantee good wages and local hiring.

CREDIT: ALICE OLLSTEIN

All week, as rumors of the plan negotiated behind closed doors leaked to the public, residents voiced their frustrations.

“It’s just wrong,” Denise Brown, who lives in Ozaukee County just outside Milwaukee, told ThinkProgress. “They could have taken that same money and left it in the University of Wisconsin, where my son got a good education. And if they wanted to help the neighborhood, it could have benefitted a lot more from a job-producing factory than this future piece of blight.”

Many Republicans oppose the plan as well, and have called for it to be stripped out of the state budget and receive a stand-alone vote. The Koch Brothers’ group Americans for Prosperity’s Wisconsin chapter called the proposal a “bad deal for Wisconsin taxpayers,” noting: “Government shouldn’t be in the business of financing private sports stadiums.”

Milwaukee’s arch-conservative sheriff David Clarke called the plan “snake oil” and “corporate welfare.”

Others are more conflicted, citing threats from the NBA to pack up and leave if they don’t get a new stadium by 2017.

“It’s controversial but it’s going to get done,” said Milwaukee native Keith Bailey, who organized faith outreach for President Obama’s 2008 campaign. “We can’t lose the Bucks. We love our Bucks.”

County Supervisor Supreme Moore Omokunde, who represents the Milwaukee neighborhood where the stadium will be located, told ThinkProgress he and his district have had no say in the deal. “I have not been involved in any of the negotiations. My voice has not been heard,” he said. “I’m a Bucks fan. As a son of Milwaukee, I would welcome a good deal. But the current deal we have is not a good deal. We cannot build a stadium on the backs of poor people and people of color.”

On Thursday, joined by dozens of local workers and activists, Omokunde announced a set of demands aimed at making sure that if the stadium deal does pass the legislature, his community would see a benefit both during the construction process and in the years to come.

Economics teacher and Milwaukee resident Luz Sosa laid out the coalition’s priorities. “We need a legal, binding document for the Bucks owners to pledge to hire local people from our communities and pay them a living wage — $15 dollars an hour minimum — and give them the right to unionize,” she said.

Many present at the event, including Rosen, argued that though an area deal may be inevitable, there are much better uses of public dollars.

“This deal was cut by people who were born with silver spoons in their mouths,” he said. “They don’t know what it means to live in inner city districts. They don’t have contact with people like the students I teach every day from Milwaukee’s poorest neighborhoods, who are working two jobs and can’t get their heads above water. Our elected officials need to better look out for the people of this community, who need parks, who need social services and health care. But all of those things have had no priority. The only priority seems to be making this deal.”

The state legislature has to pass a budget, with or without the stadium funding, by the end of June.

That stadium will generate more $$ than the kids with degrees in Women's Studies & other such nonsense. Good for Walker.

 

[OldUSAFSniper]

Not sure whether I'd vote for him or not, but sounds to me like Governor Walker has got all of his stuff in the right basket. Good job Scott! And if it pisses off another Socialist/Liberal, then two pats on the back as well.

 

[Socialist]

Not sure whether I'd vote for him or not, but sounds to me like Governor Walker has got all of his stuff in the right basket. Good job Scott! And if it pisses off another Socialist/Liberal, then two pats on the back as well.

Dear god... you truly are insane. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/23/business/wisconsins-legacy-for-unions.html?_r=0

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'm not sure if you're trying to make a joke, or you're being serious. How the hell is cutting education for a new stadium the right thing to do?

You go off the rails with your initial lie. Walker isn't cutting education.

SINCE you start with a lie as your foundation, all that follows is meaningless.

 

[Socialist]

I'm not sure if you're trying to make a joke, or you're being serious. How the hell is cutting education for a new stadium the right thing to do?

You go off the rails with your initial lie. Walker isn't cutting education.

SINCE you start with a lie as your foundation, all that follows is meaningless.

"This is exactly the amount that Governor Walker and his allies in the legislature plan to cut from the University of Wisconsin system." Try again idiot.

 

[Dreadnaught1968]

There have been numerous polls in Wisconsin showing a large body of support. It varies from poll to poll, but they all show general support.

Therein lies the problem. If the polls showed mass dis-interest, we wouldn't be talking about this at all.

Walker is a politician. That's what he is. He wouldn't be doing this if he didn't believe there were political points to be scored.

All politicians do what is in the public best interest, when they can do while scoring political points. But if there are no political points to be scored, they do whatever the public wants, even if it's not in the publics best interest. This is a perfect example.

This is what happens in a democracy, and that's why we were never supposed to be a democracy.

Hope you like the outcome.

Link one of these polls they seem to be elusive. This should really be voted on.

They seem to be elusive? Are you a joke? All I did was punch into google "Wisconsin stadium poll" and I got a half dozen different polls.

Beside, I'm not even in support. I wish the public was completely against stadiums. Stadiums are a massive waste of money. They produce nothing, consume tons, and are of no real benefit to the public.

Then a link will be easy to find.

New poll says voters may be more willing to fund Bucks arena Sports - WISN Home

Here you go.

Thank you. It's interesting the other mentioned poll has more people against it. But it is really something that should be voted on.

The big difference between the two polls is how much information is provided to those being polled.

B.J. Martino of The Tarrance Group, said their numbers differed from the MU poll because Marquette's question was "only focused on one specific aspect - borrowing money - and not providing voters a complete picture of the proposal."

Give those being polled more information and the results swing the other way.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Dear god... you truly are insane. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/23/business/wisconsins-legacy-for-unions.html?_r=0

Public employee unions are a conflict of interest by definition, and criminally corrupt

 

[Staidhup]

Yep unions did have their place in history, however, in today's economy a well trained productive employee requires managers to invest in employee benefits to retain their work force. With that said, unions, punitive government regulations, and the second highest corporate tax rate ushered in the largest export of jobs ever seen. So just for a minute consider if you were the target and sole focus for all blame and evil wouldn't you move your business? Socialism doesn't work, never has, with nothing to show for itself in the advancement in the standard of living. Socialism enslaves its citizens as wards of the state for the financial benefit of the ruling politburo.

 

[Uncensored2008]

That stadium will generate more $$ than the kids with degrees in Women's Studies & other such nonsense. Good for Walker.

The OP used the Soros funded hate site "ThinkProgess" as a source. Using Stormfront, ThinkProgress, or DailyKOS (or the worst of all, Alternet) shows that a post should not be given any credence at all.

Leftists lie - it is there basic nature.

{
Michael Poliakoff, a vice president of policy at the American Council of Trustees and Alumni, a nonprofit focused on academic excellence and accountability, said Mr. Walker was pursuing an important strategy to cut costs in higher education. “I strongly believe that teaching productivity does need to be increased, and the fact is there are places where it has been done very successfully,” he said. “Even a marginal 10% increase in teacher productivity means an enormous boost for student access, it means more courses are available, and it straightens out a lot of bottlenecks.”

Mr. Walker’s plan comes as he looks to bring spending in line with a slowdown in revenue growth following recent tax cuts he backed, which have left Wisconsin with a projected operating deficit.}

Wisconsin GOP Gov. Walker Takes Aim at College Outlays Professors - WSJ

Walker is FREEZING TUITION. The greedy administrators and professors want more, more, more, and students are denied a quality education because of the greed of the socialist bastards.

 

[Brain357]

Yep unions did have their place in history, however, in today's economy a well trained productive employee requires managers to invest in employee benefits to retain their work force. With that said, unions, punitive government regulations, and the second highest corporate tax rate ushered in the largest export of jobs ever seen. So just for a minute consider if you were the target and sole focus for all blame and evil wouldn't you move your business? Socialism doesn't work, never has, with nothing to show for itself in the advancement in the standard of living. Socialism enslaves its citizens as wards of the state for the financial benefit of the ruling politburo.

What country with a strong middle class doesn't have unions?

 

[Brain357]

That stadium will generate more $$ than the kids with degrees in Women's Studies & other such nonsense. Good for Walker.

The OP used the Soros funded hate site "ThinkProgess" as a source. Using Stormfront, ThinkProgress, or DailyKOS (or the worst of all, Alternet) shows that a post should not be given any credence at all.

Leftists lie - it is there basic nature.

{
Michael Poliakoff, a vice president of policy at the American Council of Trustees and Alumni, a nonprofit focused on academic excellence and accountability, said Mr. Walker was pursuing an important strategy to cut costs in higher education. “I strongly believe that teaching productivity does need to be increased, and the fact is there are places where it has been done very successfully,” he said. “Even a marginal 10% increase in teacher productivity means an enormous boost for student access, it means more courses are available, and it straightens out a lot of bottlenecks.”

Mr. Walker’s plan comes as he looks to bring spending in line with a slowdown in revenue growth following recent tax cuts he backed, which have left Wisconsin with a projected operating deficit.}

Wisconsin GOP Gov. Walker Takes Aim at College Outlays Professors - WSJ

Walker is FREEZING TUITION. The greedy administrators and professors want more, more, more, and students are denied a quality education because of the greed of the socialist bastards.

Mr. Walker’s plan comes as he looks to bring spending in line with a slowdown in revenue growth following recent tax cuts he backed, which have left Wisconsin with a projected operating deficit.}

 

[kwc57]

I don't see how anyone could defend nut jobs like Scott Walker..
Where The Money Scott Walker Is Cutting From Universities Is Going ThinkProgress

MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN — On Thursday, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker unveiled the latest plan for building a new $500 million basketball stadium for the Milwaukee Bucks, half of which would be paid for with taxpayer money, and half by the team’s current and former owners. Because stadium projects — including Milwaukee’s own Miller Park — have been known to run significantly over budget, the public contribution would be capped at $250 million.

This is exactly the amount that Governor Walker and his allies in the legislature plan to cut from the University of Wisconsin system.

Flanked by posters reading “Cheaper To Keep Them,” Governor Walker argued that building a new stadium is more responsible than repairing the old one, or potentially losing the NBA team to another city.

“The price of ‘no’ has a cost, and we believe it’s at least $419 million dollars over the next 20 years,” said Walker, as he explained that under his new plan, $80 million dollars in stadium funding would come from all Wisconsin taxpayers, and the remaining $170 million from “a variety of sources at the local level.”

“For every dollar the state invests, it’s three dollars in return,” claimed Walker. “By every measure, it truly protects the taxpayers. It’s not only important to Milwaukee, but it’s also something I can say is a good for lawmakers anywhere in the state.”

But many Wisconsinites, including economics professor Michael Rosen at Milwaukee Area Technical College, vehemently disagree.

“You could do more for the local economy by taking a plane over the city of Milwaukee and dropping $500 million dollars down. That would generate more economic activity than building a stadium,” he told ThinkProgress. “People have a fixed entertainment budget. So if they go see the Bucks and spend $60 or $80 on a ticket, that’s money they’re not using to go to the theater or movies or out to eat. It’s not new money, it’s just redistributed. That’s why stadiums have no positive impact on economic growth.” He also noted that most Bucks player don’t live year-round in Milwaukee, so “millions of dollars in their salaries will leak out of the community.”

Milwaukee workers say they’ll oppose any Bucks stadium deal that doesn’t guarantee good wages and local hiring.

CREDIT: ALICE OLLSTEIN

All week, as rumors of the plan negotiated behind closed doors leaked to the public, residents voiced their frustrations.

“It’s just wrong,” Denise Brown, who lives in Ozaukee County just outside Milwaukee, told ThinkProgress. “They could have taken that same money and left it in the University of Wisconsin, where my son got a good education. And if they wanted to help the neighborhood, it could have benefitted a lot more from a job-producing factory than this future piece of blight.”

Many Republicans oppose the plan as well, and have called for it to be stripped out of the state budget and receive a stand-alone vote. The Koch Brothers’ group Americans for Prosperity’s Wisconsin chapter called the proposal a “bad deal for Wisconsin taxpayers,” noting: “Government shouldn’t be in the business of financing private sports stadiums.”

Milwaukee’s arch-conservative sheriff David Clarke called the plan “snake oil” and “corporate welfare.”

Others are more conflicted, citing threats from the NBA to pack up and leave if they don’t get a new stadium by 2017.

“It’s controversial but it’s going to get done,” said Milwaukee native Keith Bailey, who organized faith outreach for President Obama’s 2008 campaign. “We can’t lose the Bucks. We love our Bucks.”

County Supervisor Supreme Moore Omokunde, who represents the Milwaukee neighborhood where the stadium will be located, told ThinkProgress he and his district have had no say in the deal. “I have not been involved in any of the negotiations. My voice has not been heard,” he said. “I’m a Bucks fan. As a son of Milwaukee, I would welcome a good deal. But the current deal we have is not a good deal. We cannot build a stadium on the backs of poor people and people of color.”

On Thursday, joined by dozens of local workers and activists, Omokunde announced a set of demands aimed at making sure that if the stadium deal does pass the legislature, his community would see a benefit both during the construction process and in the years to come.

Economics teacher and Milwaukee resident Luz Sosa laid out the coalition’s priorities. “We need a legal, binding document for the Bucks owners to pledge to hire local people from our communities and pay them a living wage — $15 dollars an hour minimum — and give them the right to unionize,” she said.

Many present at the event, including Rosen, argued that though an area deal may be inevitable, there are much better uses of public dollars.

“This deal was cut by people who were born with silver spoons in their mouths,” he said. “They don’t know what it means to live in inner city districts. They don’t have contact with people like the students I teach every day from Milwaukee’s poorest neighborhoods, who are working two jobs and can’t get their heads above water. Our elected officials need to better look out for the people of this community, who need parks, who need social services and health care. But all of those things have had no priority. The only priority seems to be making this deal.”

The state legislature has to pass a budget, with or without the stadium funding, by the end of June.

Well gosh, Socialist Bernie Sanders wants to make college "free".......so why would they need money???

 

[Votto]

Sounds like Walker is doing the right thing.

yeah... buying a stadium for a billionaire sports team owner. The right thing to do.

The right wing truly, only cares about the rich, the care for working families? Fuck em.

You mean like HIllary and the Clinton Foundation?

Yep, they all suck.

Walker could at least funnel the money into a phony charity first.

 

[Uncensored2008]

"This is exactly the amount that Governor Walker and his allies in the legislature plan to cut from the University of Wisconsin system." Try again idiot.

Again. you are lying.

Walker is FREEZING TUITION and denying the baseline INCREASE of the State Universities by 13%.

You greedy socialists want to fleece students and their parents by raising tuition AGAIN when the majority of tenured professors put less than 20 hours a MONTH in teaching. Walker is simply demanding that the teachers actually teach for a change. Or fire the greedy fuckers and have the grad students teach the courses - since they are teaching them anyway.

{
“Maybe it’s time for faculty and staff to start thinking about teaching more classes and doing more work,” he said Wednesday, according to the Wisconsin State Journal. “This authority frees up the UW administration to make those sorts of requests, which I think are needed not only here but across the country.”

Walker said that he has been told by dozens of UW officials and alumni that reduced state oversight would allow huge efficiency gains. His reforms would allow UW to set its own compensation and tenure policies, and would also exempt the system from onerous state purchasing rules. Now, Walker argues, school officials will have the chance to improve themselves, while also having nobody else to shift the blame towards for their shortcomings.}

Walker University Profs Need To Work Harder The Daily Caller

 

[Votto]

I don't see how anyone could defend nut jobs like Scott Walker..
Where The Money Scott Walker Is Cutting From Universities Is Going ThinkProgress

MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN — On Thursday, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker unveiled the latest plan for building a new $500 million basketball stadium for the Milwaukee Bucks, half of which would be paid for with taxpayer money, and half by the team’s current and former owners. Because stadium projects — including Milwaukee’s own Miller Park — have been known to run significantly over budget, the public contribution would be capped at $250 million.

This is exactly the amount that Governor Walker and his allies in the legislature plan to cut from the University of Wisconsin system.

Flanked by posters reading “Cheaper To Keep Them,” Governor Walker argued that building a new stadium is more responsible than repairing the old one, or potentially losing the NBA team to another city.

“The price of ‘no’ has a cost, and we believe it’s at least $419 million dollars over the next 20 years,” said Walker, as he explained that under his new plan, $80 million dollars in stadium funding would come from all Wisconsin taxpayers, and the remaining $170 million from “a variety of sources at the local level.”

“For every dollar the state invests, it’s three dollars in return,” claimed Walker. “By every measure, it truly protects the taxpayers. It’s not only important to Milwaukee, but it’s also something I can say is a good for lawmakers anywhere in the state.”

But many Wisconsinites, including economics professor Michael Rosen at Milwaukee Area Technical College, vehemently disagree.

“You could do more for the local economy by taking a plane over the city of Milwaukee and dropping $500 million dollars down. That would generate more economic activity than building a stadium,” he told ThinkProgress. “People have a fixed entertainment budget. So if they go see the Bucks and spend $60 or $80 on a ticket, that’s money they’re not using to go to the theater or movies or out to eat. It’s not new money, it’s just redistributed. That’s why stadiums have no positive impact on economic growth.” He also noted that most Bucks player don’t live year-round in Milwaukee, so “millions of dollars in their salaries will leak out of the community.”

Milwaukee workers say they’ll oppose any Bucks stadium deal that doesn’t guarantee good wages and local hiring.

CREDIT: ALICE OLLSTEIN

All week, as rumors of the plan negotiated behind closed doors leaked to the public, residents voiced their frustrations.

“It’s just wrong,” Denise Brown, who lives in Ozaukee County just outside Milwaukee, told ThinkProgress. “They could have taken that same money and left it in the University of Wisconsin, where my son got a good education. And if they wanted to help the neighborhood, it could have benefitted a lot more from a job-producing factory than this future piece of blight.”

Many Republicans oppose the plan as well, and have called for it to be stripped out of the state budget and receive a stand-alone vote. The Koch Brothers’ group Americans for Prosperity’s Wisconsin chapter called the proposal a “bad deal for Wisconsin taxpayers,” noting: “Government shouldn’t be in the business of financing private sports stadiums.”

Milwaukee’s arch-conservative sheriff David Clarke called the plan “snake oil” and “corporate welfare.”

Others are more conflicted, citing threats from the NBA to pack up and leave if they don’t get a new stadium by 2017.

“It’s controversial but it’s going to get done,” said Milwaukee native Keith Bailey, who organized faith outreach for President Obama’s 2008 campaign. “We can’t lose the Bucks. We love our Bucks.”

County Supervisor Supreme Moore Omokunde, who represents the Milwaukee neighborhood where the stadium will be located, told ThinkProgress he and his district have had no say in the deal. “I have not been involved in any of the negotiations. My voice has not been heard,” he said. “I’m a Bucks fan. As a son of Milwaukee, I would welcome a good deal. But the current deal we have is not a good deal. We cannot build a stadium on the backs of poor people and people of color.”

On Thursday, joined by dozens of local workers and activists, Omokunde announced a set of demands aimed at making sure that if the stadium deal does pass the legislature, his community would see a benefit both during the construction process and in the years to come.

Economics teacher and Milwaukee resident Luz Sosa laid out the coalition’s priorities. “We need a legal, binding document for the Bucks owners to pledge to hire local people from our communities and pay them a living wage — $15 dollars an hour minimum — and give them the right to unionize,” she said.

Many present at the event, including Rosen, argued that though an area deal may be inevitable, there are much better uses of public dollars.

“This deal was cut by people who were born with silver spoons in their mouths,” he said. “They don’t know what it means to live in inner city districts. They don’t have contact with people like the students I teach every day from Milwaukee’s poorest neighborhoods, who are working two jobs and can’t get their heads above water. Our elected officials need to better look out for the people of this community, who need parks, who need social services and health care. But all of those things have had no priority. The only priority seems to be making this deal.”

The state legislature has to pass a budget, with or without the stadium funding, by the end of June.

Well gosh, Socialist Bernie Sanders wants to make college "free".......so why would they need money???

Is that before or after he rapes the female students?

 

[Votto]

"This is exactly the amount that Governor Walker and his allies in the legislature plan to cut from the University of Wisconsin system." Try again idiot.

Again. you are lying.

Walker is FREEZING TUITION and denying the baseline INCREASE of the State Universities by 13%.

You greedy socialists want to fleece students and their parents by raising tuition AGAIN when the majority of tenured professors put less than 20 hours a MONTH in teaching. Walker is simply demanding that the teachers actually teach for a change. Or fire the greedy fuckers and have the grad students teach the courses - since they are teaching them anyway.

{
“Maybe it’s time for faculty and staff to start thinking about teaching more classes and doing more work,” he said Wednesday, according to the Wisconsin State Journal. “This authority frees up the UW administration to make those sorts of requests, which I think are needed not only here but across the country.”

Walker said that he has been told by dozens of UW officials and alumni that reduced state oversight would allow huge efficiency gains. His reforms would allow UW to set its own compensation and tenure policies, and would also exempt the system from onerous state purchasing rules. Now, Walker argues, school officials will have the chance to improve themselves, while also having nobody else to shift the blame towards for their shortcomings.}

Walker University Profs Need To Work Harder The Daily Caller

Actually government and higher education have a symbiotic relationship.

Those in government keep reducing interest rates on college loans so students can afford ever increasing tuition rates and higher amounts of debt that will enslave them for the rest of their lives. In return, higher education produces a bunch of left winged socialists who keep voting for the powers that enslave them.

It's bad enough having a task master, but imagine being so ignorant that you vote for him ever few years. Eventually you just turn into Detroit I reckon.

 

[kwc57]

The cost of public university doubled under W. Glad Pubs still have their heads up their ass....Getting just a little too obvious these days...seeing a landslide in this on year election.

Let's explore that a little. Why did the cost go up? Student loans. Increase student lending and the universities see a new teat on the cash cow. They increase tuition because the government will fund it with student loans. There is a direct correlation to student loans and increased spending by universities. It's like Uncle Sugar gave them his credit card for the weekend.

 

[Votto]

The cost of public university doubled under W. Glad Pubs still have their heads up their ass....Getting just a little too obvious these days...seeing a landslide in this on year election.

Let's explore that a little. Why did the cost go up? Student loans. Increase student lending and the universities see a new teat on the cash cow. They increase tuition because the government will fund it with student loans. There is a direct correlation to student loans and increased spending by universities. It's like Uncle Sugar gave them his credit card for the weekend.

The bubble will soon burst.

You can only lower interest rates on student loans so low. In addition, students who do graduate are having trouble finding jobs in this piss poor economy.

Eventually people will figure out that going to college is a bad idea and the party will be over.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yep unions did have their place in history, however, in today's economy a well trained productive employee requires managers to invest in employee benefits to retain their work force. With that said, unions, punitive government regulations, and the second highest corporate tax rate ushered in the largest export of jobs ever seen. So just for a minute consider if you were the target and sole focus for all blame and evil wouldn't you move your business? Socialism doesn't work, never has, with nothing to show for itself in the advancement in the standard of living. Socialism enslaves its citizens as wards of the state for the financial benefit of the ruling politburo.

Unions are fine, and the natural offset to corporations.

PUBLIC EMPLOYEE unions are not.

This is why;

In a corporation, you have owners and a board of directors who are seeking to maximize their investment by demanding ever greater results from management. Management has pressure to demand more of the labor force. The corporation is itself a collective unit of owners. Individual workers are helpless against the collective owners. Unions offer the ability of the employees to bargain as a single unit (in real unions, not the Mafia controlled monopoly of the AFL/CIO) From a market perspective, unions are vital to create equilibrium by counter-balancing the collective ownership.

BUT government has no owners, collective or otherwise. There is no pressure for greater productivity and the entire situation is a farce. Politicians who rely on votes decide the compensation and conditions in government jobs. Public employee unions provide votes to democrat politicians in return for increased wages and benefits, a direct pay to play scheme. Unions ensure corrupt democrats are elected, and democrats raid the public treasury on behalf of the union.

It is corruption in action. It is corrupt by design and cannot be otherwise.

{
All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations. The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives in Congress. Accordingly, administrative officials and employees alike are governed and guided, and in many instances restricted, by laws which establish policies, procedures, or rules in personnel matters.

Particularly, I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the functions of any organization of Government employees. Upon employees in the Federal service rests the obligation to serve the whole people, whose interests and welfare require orderliness and continuity in the conduct of Government activities.} - Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Franklin D. Roosevelt Letter on the Resolution of Federation of Federal Employees Against Strikes in Federal Service