Which comes first: Irrefutable proof...or an investigation toward that proof?

The right wingers' (aka, Trump lovers) mantra has been the same for several months now......"Where's the proof of Trump's wrong doings"???

Never stopping to "think" (for many right wingers to think, would be a novel undertaking) that FIRST there is exhausting and thorough investigations and SECOND, the offering of irrefutable proof that would either clear or condemn Trump.....

So, my dear right wingers, which comes first?

Your point is right on. Many Trump supporters are having a knee jerk reaction to the allegations, and an investigation is merited. However let me make another point- this behavioral reaction is not the lone purview of the Trump supporters. It was also demonstrated in spades by the Hillary supporters during the investigation of her private server.

If you recall, Comey declined to prosecute Hillary because he couldn't prove intent, only gross negligence, even though intent was not part of the statute.

Subsection (f) of the pertinent statute (the Espionage Act, codified at Section 793 of Title 18, U.S. Code) makes it a felony to mishandle classified information “through gross negligence” — i.e., proving Clinton was sloppy or careless (or “extremely careless,” to use Comey’s own description) could have been sufficient. But beyond that, Clinton willfully set up a private network for the systematic handling of her State Department-related communications, in violation of federal record-keeping requirements of which she was well aware, and under circumstances in which she (a former senator who served for years on the intelligence Armed Services committee) was a sophisticated longtime consumer of classified information. She was keenly aware that her responsibilities as secretary of state would heavily involve classified information — whether it was “marked” classified or “born classified” because of the subject matter.

We shall see if the current justice department is as lenient with the orange clown as the last one was with the bulldyke.
 
The right wingers' (aka, Trump lovers) mantra has been the same for several months now......"Where's the proof of Trump's wrong doings"???

Never stopping to "think" (for many right wingers to think, would be a novel undertaking) that FIRST there is exhausting and thorough investigations and SECOND, the offering of irrefutable proof that would either clear or condemn Trump.....

So, my dear right wingers, which comes first?


You are a phony trying to keep a totally disreputable narrative going.

Since when is there an investigation into a crime that has not occurred? In other words-----------> you either have a crime, or you don't! If you are trying to PREVENT a crime, you are now suggesting Trump is plotting to do something in the future, lol. (is that your next narrative?)

And then, we must assume logically if Trump is NOT under investigation as ALL your people now say, they don't even suspect he did anything.

Therefore, this thread FAILS by facts in evidence, and human logic, and is not even a good attempt at keeping a phony narrative going-)
 
What comes first?

Probable cause.

Heck, reasonable suspicion would be nice. You don't even have that much
 
If you recall, Comey declined to prosecute Hillary because he couldn't prove intent, only gross negligence, even though intent was not part of the statute.

Although I mostly agree, bear in mind that its the DOJ that ultimately prosecutes, not the FBI.
 
The right wingers' (aka, Trump lovers) mantra has been the same for several months now......"Where's the proof of Trump's wrong doings"???

Never stopping to "think" (for many right wingers to think, would be a novel undertaking) that FIRST there is exhausting and thorough investigations and SECOND, the offering of irrefutable proof that would either clear or condemn Trump.....

So, my dear right wingers, which comes first?

So this is your back up plan? We know now that Trump is not guilty of anything nor is he under investigation for anything. So this is your plan to keep all of this nonsense alive until the next election?
 
If you recall, Comey declined to prosecute Hillary because he couldn't prove intent, only gross negligence, even though intent was not part of the statute.

Although I mostly agree, bear in mind that its the DOJ that ultimately prosecutes, not the FBI.

DOJ would have prosecuted with a recommendation from the FBI, or there would have been political hell to pay.
 
If you recall, Comey declined to prosecute Hillary because he couldn't prove intent, only gross negligence, even though intent was not part of the statute.

Although I mostly agree, bear in mind that its the DOJ that ultimately prosecutes, not the FBI.

DOJ would have prosecuted with a recommendation from the FBI, or there would have been political hell to pay.

There was hell to pay w/o it, people knew that "no intent" was BS
 
Even though this thread is about the various investigations of the Trumpster's KeyStone Kops administration, right wingers will bring up Clinton as their usual deflection.....

Can any of you right wingers state exactly WHAT secrets have placed this nation in danger because of Clinton's private server????
 
The right wingers' (aka, Trump lovers) mantra has been the same for several months now......"Where's the proof of Trump's wrong doings"???

Never stopping to "think" (for many right wingers to think, would be a novel undertaking) that FIRST there is exhausting and thorough investigations and SECOND, the offering of irrefutable proof that would either clear or condemn Trump.....

So, my dear right wingers, which comes first?







Which comes first? A brain or the ability to think critically with it? Face it natty, if there were anything....anything at all it would be front page news and EVERYWHERE. So. Where is it?
Be patient grasshopper. The right spent years investigating without finding a single bit of actionable evidence. We don't want to just ignore the precedent they set, now do we?







No, if the shrilary had not had access to a compliant, friendly DOJ she would have been indicted. That is very clear. Never forget, cupcake, that comey laid out the felonious actions that she did. He just chose to not do his job properly. There actually IS evidence of crimes on her part. Not on trumps.

Yes, I know that's what Hannity told you, and if you repeat it a few hundred more times, it might magically become true.
 
As their hopes swirl down the drain...priceless

So glad you're entertained. The time line on investigations is usually measured in years, at least it has been lately. I hope you continue to enjoy it as much as I do over the next several years.

What is the time line on witch hunts?

This is no "investigation" after all.

You grasp that today was a SERIOUS blow to you Salem folk, right?

This has barely scratched the surface of this investigation. It's about Russia's efforts to damage our elections, and about a half dozen of Trump's closest advisers have already been fired, or at least recused themselves from their jobs because they got caught lying about their connections to Putin. There is a lot more ground to cover. Sit back and get comfortable.
 
If you don't have irrefutable proof why should you bother looking?

How about even a hint of evidence?

Anything?

Ah, but you have hatred, and that's more than enough for you fascists.

So, how will you recover from the disaster that was the Comey testimony? How CAN the witch hunt recover?
How about we start with the party who benefitted from the crime meeting with the leading suspect?

How about we start with a hint of evidence?

Anything? Anything at all?

You really think this baseless witch hunt will help you Nazis in 2018?
Evidence?
We have evidence of secret meetings between the Trump camp and the Russians

Why don't we start there?
 
If you don't have irrefutable proof why should you bother looking?

How about even a hint of evidence?

Anything?

Ah, but you have hatred, and that's more than enough for you fascists.

So, how will you recover from the disaster that was the Comey testimony? How CAN the witch hunt recover?
How about we start with the party who benefitted from the crime meeting with the leading suspect?

How about we start with a hint of evidence?

Anything? Anything at all?

You really think this baseless witch hunt will help you Nazis in 2018?
Evidence?
We have evidence of secret meetings between the Trump camp and the Russians

Why don't we start there?

Oh no, secret meetings....that's it throw him in jail.
 
Here is some evidence.

Trump ate borscht!! RUSSIA!!!!!
Trump's bar serves a lot of "Moscow Mules" at Mar-o-Lago!! RUSSIA!!!!
Trump's favorite Beatles song? Back in the USSR!! RUSSIA!!!!

This shit is too fucking easy......Trump is obviously a Russian agent!

:rofl:
 
If you don't have irrefutable proof why should you bother looking?

How about even a hint of evidence?

Anything?

Ah, but you have hatred, and that's more than enough for you fascists.

So, how will you recover from the disaster that was the Comey testimony? How CAN the witch hunt recover?
How about we start with the party who benefitted from the crime meeting with the leading suspect?

How about we start with a hint of evidence?

Anything? Anything at all?

You really think this baseless witch hunt will help you Nazis in 2018?
Evidence?
We have evidence of secret meetings between the Trump camp and the Russians

Why don't we start there?

Oh no, secret meetings....that's it throw him in jail.
What else do you call meetings with foreign governments that you fail to report on your security forms?
 
Here is some evidence.

Trump ate borscht!! RUSSIA!!!!!
Trump's bar serves a lot of "Moscow Mules" at Mar-o-Lago!! RUSSIA!!!!
Trump's favorite Beatles song? Back in the USSR!! RUSSIA!!!!

This shit is too fucking easy......Trump is a Russian agent!

Russia helped Trump get elected
Trump offered policy concessions
Trumo representatives secretly met with the Russians
 
Here is some evidence.

Trump ate borscht!! RUSSIA!!!!!
Trump's bar serves a lot of "Moscow Mules" at Mar-o-Lago!! RUSSIA!!!!
Trump's favorite Beatles song? Back in the USSR!! RUSSIA!!!!

This shit is too fucking easy......Trump is a Russian agent!

Russia helped Trump get elected
Trump offered policy concessions
Trumo representatives secretly met with the Russians

Sure he did.

He also said the word NYET once!! RUSSIA!!!!
 
How about even a hint of evidence?

Anything?

Ah, but you have hatred, and that's more than enough for you fascists.

So, how will you recover from the disaster that was the Comey testimony? How CAN the witch hunt recover?
How about we start with the party who benefitted from the crime meeting with the leading suspect?

How about we start with a hint of evidence?

Anything? Anything at all?

You really think this baseless witch hunt will help you Nazis in 2018?
Evidence?
We have evidence of secret meetings between the Trump camp and the Russians

Why don't we start there?

Oh no, secret meetings....that's it throw him in jail.
What else do you call meetings with foreign governments that you fail to report on your security forms?

Sigh, another brain surgeon, Obama changed the rules to keep forms private.
 

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