Which of Your Rights Will They Go After....

Wrong.

"Over a Third of Democrats Would Repeal Second Amendment

More than a third of the Democratic party would do away with the Second Amendment, a survey by The Economist and YouGov revealed."
Repeal the Second Amendment? Almost Half of Democrats Say Yes | National Review

I know many Democrats. None want to "do away" with the second amendment. What Democrats and any rational person wants is responsible gun regulations. NOT, "Learn CPR" as the answer to school shooting which Republicans embrace.


1. The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data.'

2. Licensed gun owners are, by far, the most law abiding of our citizens.
  1. Example: “Of the 51,078 permits that have been issued by the state since the law took effect in 2007, 44 permit holders have been charged with a crime while using a firearm through late October, according to records provided by the Kansas Attorney General’s Office.”
  2. Few crimes committed by concealed-carry permit holders in Kansas
  3. http://www.kansas.com/2012/11/17/2572467/few-crimes-committed-by-concealed.html ( .00086%)
3. The answer to the elimination of the sort of mass murders as per Florida:
a. Forbid 'gun free zones' by law
b. Restrict the use and prescribing of psychotropic drugs.
c. Forbid any Democrats from having a position of power in government.

The true answer to eliminating mass shooting is to limit private ownership of guns in the US to handguns with a maximum 5 round magazines. Single action hunting rifles, single action shotguns. Anyone caught with any larger gun or magazine should receive life in prison without parole. Done.

The truest answer to eliminating gun violence in general is to never let leftists be in charge of ANYTHING. Done.

The truest answer to eliminating gun violence is to raise wages and give people some hope. The fact is if you are 18, the chance of your ever retiring is not good if you don't have the full benefit social security, a fully vested IRA or KEOGH, and $320,000.00 in cash.

So, you're saying the Vegas shooter, that owned at least one apartment complex, which gave him more than $500,000 in annual income, and made $5-6 million in profits from its sale just needed some hope?
 
I own two Glocks. Nobody wants to take those away.

If I had a small penis I'd be concerned about my AR-15's and machine guns.

Sure someone wants to take them. I had a brand new one stolen a few months ago. It was a NIB Glock Mod. 19, 9mm, serial number XGH330.

Thieves want your guns; the Democrats want them... mostly they want to destroy them.

The issue was gun regulations but since you want to play......You should be ashamed for not securing your weapon. As far as I'm concerned, if your gun is used in the commission of a crime, you should go to jail.

You know if the mall didn't tell you weapons weren't allowed, my weapon would have been under my control. Once you've locked the weapon in the trunk of your car, you've done due diligence. But, you were too ignorant to get the facts.
 
I know many Democrats. None want to "do away" with the second amendment. What Democrats and any rational person wants is responsible gun regulations. NOT, "Learn CPR" as the answer to school shooting which Republicans embrace.


1. The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data.'

2. Licensed gun owners are, by far, the most law abiding of our citizens.
  1. Example: “Of the 51,078 permits that have been issued by the state since the law took effect in 2007, 44 permit holders have been charged with a crime while using a firearm through late October, according to records provided by the Kansas Attorney General’s Office.”
  2. Few crimes committed by concealed-carry permit holders in Kansas
  3. http://www.kansas.com/2012/11/17/2572467/few-crimes-committed-by-concealed.html ( .00086%)
3. The answer to the elimination of the sort of mass murders as per Florida:
a. Forbid 'gun free zones' by law
b. Restrict the use and prescribing of psychotropic drugs.
c. Forbid any Democrats from having a position of power in government.

The true answer to eliminating mass shooting is to limit private ownership of guns in the US to handguns with a maximum 5 round magazines. Single action hunting rifles, single action shotguns. Anyone caught with any larger gun or magazine should receive life in prison without parole. Done.

The truest answer to eliminating gun violence in general is to never let leftists be in charge of ANYTHING. Done.

The truest answer to eliminating gun violence is to raise wages and give people some hope. The fact is if you are 18, the chance of your ever retiring is not good if you don't have the full benefit social security, a fully vested IRA or KEOGH, and $320,000.00 in cash.

So, you're saying the Vegas shooter, that owned at least one apartment complex, which gave him more than $500,000 in annual income, and made $5-6 million in profits from its sale just needed some hope?

Try to keep up. The issue I was answering was school shootings.

FYI Paddocks net assets were at least 10 times what you listed. What would have stopped Paddock would have been a ban on AR-15's plus an NCIC information share with States so his mass purchase would have been detected.
 
Both parties are attacking our rights by creating and taking advantage of different kinds of outrage. I hope people notice before it's too late.
Both parties?

What rights are Democrats ‘attacking’ – it’s certainly not ‘gun rights’; none of the firearm regulatory measures advocated for by Democrats have been struck down by the Supreme Court. Those proposed measures are perfectly Constitutional and consistent with Second Amendment jurisprudence.

Those measures might be unwarranted and unwise, likely not to achieve the desired goal of reducing gun crime and violence, but Democrats are not ‘attacking’ the rights enshrined in the Second Amendment.
 
Right now, Conservatives are attacking

A free press
The right to vote
The 14th amendment

Well, given the passage of various laws concerning abortion, they also have already attacked the right to privacy, the right to physical sovereignty, and the right to freedom of choice of religion. They even dictate to doctors what they must say to their patients and force people to attend religious-indoctrination "counseling." "Conservatives" are capable of just about anything.
 
When any 'gun control' law is met with...'the law won't help' , then there is no legislative solution

Cyclical logic , it's what's for dinner!


~S~

You are presuming that the only laws that will help are gun control laws. You can reduce gun violence with preventative measures that do not include gun control.


Well that would mean more Gub'mit , think on it...~S~

My ideas would shrink the size, power and scope of government. It's time that government be held accountable to the same degree that they hold us accountable for. Think about it. When Nickolas Cruz was not pursued by the FBI, those agents got to say oooops we're sorry. If you were working a job and your negligence led to the deaths of 17 people, what would happen to you?


Grand, then let's add in all the numbskulls that knew 9/11 was coming, and dropped the ball too Humorme

and that's just a start.......how many times has the Gub'Mit gone broke?

We've a better chance of seeing slick willy bring hillary to full climax on CNN than actually achieving any real world clarity and accountability from the Gub'Mit


That one 'party' is constantly trying to insist it of the other should be a clue they're playin' us for fools

~S~

Numbskulls you say? Let me tell you something:

In the late 1990s, a major corporation was experimenting with microchips and the bar code. Then, in the winter of 1998, a man went to a Town Hall meeting put on by United States Congressman, John Linder. At the time, I believe that someone recorded the meeting though I don't know how to come up with the video.

This man told of how major corporations were experimenting with bar codes and microchips. Linder laughed; had much the same attitude that you do. Linder thought he was going to"play along" and allow this constituent make an ass of himself. So, when the guy said that the purpose of the project was to put your Socialist Surveillance Number ...ooops, "Social Security Number" along with your Zip plus four on a microchip in order to create a National ID Card, Linder faked being amused and pretended to be holding back laughter.

Polls back then were against National ID by a margin of 87 to 9 percent with the balance of America undecided. So, Linder was watching the crowd act like you do. It'll never happen. Linder gets brave. He asks the man why anyone would want to invest in National ID when more Americans were against it than any political idea going.

Then this man said, within five years, a major terrorist attack would be attempted on U.S. soil. That would usher in a period of where the people would beg for a POLICE STATE and that would be followed by a demand for National ID. Linder accused that man of "dabbling in too many Internet rumors and conspiracy theories." But this guy wasn't on the Internet. What he knew came from sources where he worked.

Forty three months later 9 / 11 happened. On 2 October 2001 the so - called "Patriot Act" was passed. Now, here is what YOU believe:

In less than five weeks, both Houses of Congress researched, wrote, shepardized, and discussed many pages of legislation. They then went back researched, shepardized it until 342 pages of could be presented to the president and most of it able to pass constitutional muster. Bull FREAKING crap! That is impossible. Those same people then came back and passed a National ID Bill with... guess what???? It used the SSN as its unique identifier. It's funny how accurately all of that was predicted. And I know that story to be true because I was the man who said it. But, you already knew that.

How many times has the government gone broke? If you sell all the assets in America TWICE, you could not pay the federal deficit. There is a statistic in the credit industry: If you owe more than six months of your salary in consumer debt (like credit cards) the statistical probability is that you are 97 percent likely to die before that debt is paid off... and we owe more than TWO Americas already. America isn't going broke - they've been broke.

You might want to win the gun control debate on the basis of a popularity contest, but if you check the record, the things you have tried to make fun of was accurately predicted - and not by the shills the left sends in to pretend to be patriots and damn sure not by crackpots.

The left don't want your guns - they only wanted your fully automatic weapons. The right caved. The left don't want your guns, they only want those semi auto imports. The right caved. The left don't want your guns. They only wanted those WWII Garands and carbines sold through the government to civilians via the Civilian Marksmanship program to stop. The right caved. The right caved to the Assault Weapons ban; they compromised by allowing the unconstitutional Lautenberg Amendment. The right caved on the issue of background checks with the Brady Bill (a slap in the face to the Fourth Amendment) the gun lobby is SILENT on bump stocks - the way it's presented is wholly unconstitutional as it is ex post facto (ex post facto laws prohibited by the Constitution.)

In all of that, the left has not compromised with the right one damn time on gun control... then again the Republicans have not introduced legislation that would reduce gun violence without gun control AND they have ignored proposals from the outside that could accomplish that.

I'll tell you what: Don't pee down my neck and tell me it's raining and I won't have to respond with walls of text.

Interesting, and yes i've followed.

so we are essentially a police state , feigning freedom

sad reality....

~S~
 
Wrong.

"Over a Third of Democrats Would Repeal Second Amendment

More than a third of the Democratic party would do away with the Second Amendment, a survey by The Economist and YouGov revealed."
Repeal the Second Amendment? Almost Half of Democrats Say Yes | National Review

I know many Democrats. None want to "do away" with the second amendment. What Democrats and any rational person wants is responsible gun regulations. NOT, "Learn CPR" as the answer to school shooting which Republicans embrace.


1. The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data.'

2. Licensed gun owners are, by far, the most law abiding of our citizens.
  1. Example: “Of the 51,078 permits that have been issued by the state since the law took effect in 2007, 44 permit holders have been charged with a crime while using a firearm through late October, according to records provided by the Kansas Attorney General’s Office.”
  2. Few crimes committed by concealed-carry permit holders in Kansas
  3. http://www.kansas.com/2012/11/17/2572467/few-crimes-committed-by-concealed.html ( .00086%)
3. The answer to the elimination of the sort of mass murders as per Florida:
a. Forbid 'gun free zones' by law
b. Restrict the use and prescribing of psychotropic drugs.
c. Forbid any Democrats from having a position of power in government.

The true answer to eliminating mass shooting is to limit private ownership of guns in the US to handguns with a maximum 5 round magazines. Single action hunting rifles, single action shotguns. Anyone caught with any larger gun or magazine should receive life in prison without parole. Done.

The truest answer to eliminating gun violence in general is to never let leftists be in charge of ANYTHING. Done.

The truest answer to eliminating gun violence is to raise wages and give people some hope. The fact is if you are 18, the chance of your ever retiring is not good if you don't have the full benefit social security, a fully vested IRA or KEOGH, and $320,000.00 in cash.


every American should watch this>>

~S~
 
.....first.

1. Based on the recent massacre, and the full-court press by the Left, ....
"Over a Third of Democrats Would Repeal Second Amendment
More than a third of the Democratic party would do away with the Second Amendment, a survey by The Economist and YouGov revealed."
Repeal the Second Amendment? Almost Half of Democrats Say Yes | National Review

....one might think that your right to bear arms is first on their list.


Nay, nay......not so.




2. First on the list for Communists, Fascists.....and Liberals......is Free Speech.

Case in point, CNN news-speaker, and grad of..."Yale University, where he obtained an undergraduate degree, and Fordham University where he obtained his Juris Doctor (J.D.). He is a licensed attorney.
He currently works at CNN,[1][2] and has previously been the ABC Newschief law and justice correspondent and the co-anchor for ABC's 20/20."
Chris Cuomo - Wikipedia


One smart Liberal, huh?


3. With all that supposed education, Liberal Democrat Cuomo said this:

X4EG59d88IfGK0Si7TFrd-9HAqvhHr8hPYAwr_3mwN5EN6HXb4fXkJcNBWXQztyUSyzPJpvztabLt9jigBnwVEdeyDvFu9ne-JSsFpoyW538TzPbF50QUSsWMDnsZRjLOtUbycc


"Chris Cuomo is a law-school graduate. He was once the chief law and justice correspondent for ABC News. He is a host of a show on a network that bills itself as “the most trusted name in news.” Given all that, he really ought to know better.

Chris Cuomo is a law-school graduate. He was once the chief law and justice correspondent for ABC News. He is a host of a show on a network that bills itself as “the most trusted name in news.” Given all that, he really ought to know better.


Cuomo’s tweet, and his stubborn campaign to defend it in the wake of a merciless assault from the Twitterverse, errs in two ways. First, it’s ludicrous to state that “reading” the Constitution will reveal that hate speech is “excluded from protection.” There is no such language anywhere in the Constitution."
Chris Cuomo Won’t Walk Back His Ignorant Tweet About Hate Speech





Again???

"it’s ludicrous to state that “reading” the Constitution will reveal that hate speech is “excluded from protection.” There is no such language anywhere in the Constitution."


Here....Fredo Cuomo:



Fredo….I’m not stupid like everybody says….I’m smart.





For the Founders, for Conservatives, for classical liberals.....and for Americans....there is no such thing as
"hate speech."

There is only speech.

And the Liberals are about chipping away at what you can say.


First?


Your right to privacy is already gone, been gone.

Your 2nd is already gone. We have 'permission' to own approved arms.

the first is gone, you can get arrested for speaking out with anger.


the next will be the right to assemble. It's clear the left will become more violent twards people that they just disagree with and their leaders will allow escalation.

we know this is true b/c we see it now.
 
.....first.

1. Based on the recent massacre, and the full-court press by the Left, ....
"Over a Third of Democrats Would Repeal Second Amendment
More than a third of the Democratic party would do away with the Second Amendment, a survey by The Economist and YouGov revealed."
Repeal the Second Amendment? Almost Half of Democrats Say Yes | National Review

....one might think that your right to bear arms is first on their list.


Nay, nay......not so.




2. First on the list for Communists, Fascists.....and Liberals......is Free Speech.

Case in point, CNN news-speaker, and grad of..."Yale University, where he obtained an undergraduate degree, and Fordham University where he obtained his Juris Doctor (J.D.). He is a licensed attorney.
He currently works at CNN,[1][2] and has previously been the ABC Newschief law and justice correspondent and the co-anchor for ABC's 20/20."
Chris Cuomo - Wikipedia


One smart Liberal, huh?


3. With all that supposed education, Liberal Democrat Cuomo said this:

X4EG59d88IfGK0Si7TFrd-9HAqvhHr8hPYAwr_3mwN5EN6HXb4fXkJcNBWXQztyUSyzPJpvztabLt9jigBnwVEdeyDvFu9ne-JSsFpoyW538TzPbF50QUSsWMDnsZRjLOtUbycc


"Chris Cuomo is a law-school graduate. He was once the chief law and justice correspondent for ABC News. He is a host of a show on a network that bills itself as “the most trusted name in news.” Given all that, he really ought to know better.

Chris Cuomo is a law-school graduate. He was once the chief law and justice correspondent for ABC News. He is a host of a show on a network that bills itself as “the most trusted name in news.” Given all that, he really ought to know better.


Cuomo’s tweet, and his stubborn campaign to defend it in the wake of a merciless assault from the Twitterverse, errs in two ways. First, it’s ludicrous to state that “reading” the Constitution will reveal that hate speech is “excluded from protection.” There is no such language anywhere in the Constitution."
Chris Cuomo Won’t Walk Back His Ignorant Tweet About Hate Speech





Again???

"it’s ludicrous to state that “reading” the Constitution will reveal that hate speech is “excluded from protection.” There is no such language anywhere in the Constitution."


Here....Fredo Cuomo:



Fredo….I’m not stupid like everybody says….I’m smart.





For the Founders, for Conservatives, for classical liberals.....and for Americans....there is no such thing as
"hate speech."

There is only speech.

And the Liberals are about chipping away at what you can say.



Maybe we will get lucky and Chris (cocaine) Cuomo will get the Fredo boat ride?
 
The following is indisputable:


a. "The [Obama] Justice Department already has sued school districts in Florida, South Carolina and Mississippi for implementing allegedly racist disciplinary policies."

Nikolas Cruz was white.

SOrry, you lose, Mail Order Bride From Hell.
damn, joe proved he is a racist real early today.

way to go joe
 
I own two Glocks. Nobody wants to take those away.

If I had a small penis I'd be concerned about my AR-15's and machine guns.


Wrong.

"Over a Third of Democrats Would Repeal Second Amendment

More than a third of the Democratic party would do away with the Second Amendment, a survey by The Economist and YouGov revealed."
Repeal the Second Amendment? Almost Half of Democrats Say Yes | National Review

I know many Democrats. None want to "do away" with the second amendment. What Democrats and any rational person wants is responsible gun regulations. NOT, "Learn CPR" as the answer to school shooting which Republicans embrace.


1. The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data.'

2. Licensed gun owners are, by far, the most law abiding of our citizens.
  1. Example: “Of the 51,078 permits that have been issued by the state since the law took effect in 2007, 44 permit holders have been charged with a crime while using a firearm through late October, according to records provided by the Kansas Attorney General’s Office.”
  2. Few crimes committed by concealed-carry permit holders in Kansas
  3. http://www.kansas.com/2012/11/17/2572467/few-crimes-committed-by-concealed.html ( .00086%)
3. The answer to the elimination of the sort of mass murders as per Florida:
a. Forbid 'gun free zones' by law
b. Restrict the use and prescribing of psychotropic drugs.
c. Forbid any Democrats from having a position of power in government.

The true answer to eliminating mass shooting is to limit private ownership of guns in the US to handguns with a maximum 5 round magazines. Single action hunting rifles, single action shotguns. Anyone caught with any larger gun or magazine should receive life in prison without parole. Done.


No, you dunce.....those who have passed the requirements and have a license are the least ....LEAST...likely to engage in criminal activity..


This:

1. “Of the 51,078 permits that have been issued by the state since the law took effect in 2007, 44 permit holders have been charged with a crime while using a firearm through late October, according to records provided by the Kansas Attorney General’s Office.”
Few crimes committed by concealed-carry permit holders in Kansas
http://www.kansas.com/2012/11/17/2572467/few-crimes-committed-by-concealed.html ( .00086%)



Keep your greedy paws out of the gun ownership of these good Americans.
 
The following is indisputable:


a. "The [Obama] Justice Department already has sued school districts in Florida, South Carolina and Mississippi for implementing allegedly racist disciplinary policies."

Nikolas Cruz was white.

SOrry, you lose, Mail Order Bride From Hell.


Nikolas Cruz was covered by the Obama no-arrest police, as his name made him eligible as a 'minority.'

"U.S. Civil Rights Commissioners: Obama-Era School Leniency Policy Brings ‘Fear’ and ‘Danger’
Two members of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights say the Obama-era school leniency policy that discourages reports of threatening behavior by minority students to law enforcement is dangerous.

“Many schools that have adopted lenient disciplinary policies – i.e., defining offenses down so that blacks and Hispanics aren’t suspended or expelled at significantly higher rates than whites and Asians—have seen marked increases in the number and severity of offenses,” attorney Peter Kirsanow, a Republican member of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, tells Breitbart News. “St. Paul is just one example, but numerous districts across the country have reported spikes in violence against teachers and students, as well as other forms of disruptive behavior.”
U.S. Civil Rights Commissioners: Obama-Era School Leniency Policy Brings 'Fear' and 'Danger' | Breitbart




It wasn't the NRA that made the school massacre possible...it was Obama's Promise Program,Liberal policy that made certain that the killer had no criminal record that would have barred him from obtaining the guns.

When will you learn that I am never wrong?


Now....back under your rock.
 
When any 'gun control' law is met with...'the law won't help' , then there is no legislative solution

Cyclical logic , it's what's for dinner!


~S~

You are presuming that the only laws that will help are gun control laws. You can reduce gun violence with preventative measures that do not include gun control.


Well that would mean more Gub'mit , think on it...~S~

My ideas would shrink the size, power and scope of government. It's time that government be held accountable to the same degree that they hold us accountable for. Think about it. When Nickolas Cruz was not pursued by the FBI, those agents got to say oooops we're sorry. If you were working a job and your negligence led to the deaths of 17 people, what would happen to you?



"When Nickolas Cruz was not pursued by the FBI..."


Let's be clear.....the FBI was restricted by Obama policies.

a. "The [Obama] Justice Department already has sued school districts in Florida, South Carolina and Mississippi for implementing allegedly racist disciplinary policies."
Holder's Anti-Discipline Push May Threaten Students | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD


b. "The Obama-era Departments of Education and Justice – under education secretary Arne Duncan and Attorney General Eric Holder –issued school guidelines in 2014 that claimed students of color are “disproportionately impacted” by suspensions and expulsions, a situation they said leads to a “school-to-prison pipeline” that discriminates against minority and low-income students.

According to the Obama administration’s 2014 “Dear Colleague” guidance, any school district whose disciplinary measures showed “disparate impact” – meaning a disproportionately greater number of minority students are affected – is open to investigation by [Obama] the Departments of Justice and Education, regardless of whether the behavior leading to the discipline is unacceptable."
Broward County Likely ‘Inspiration’ for Obama School Discipline Policy to Report Fewer Arrests, Suspensions | Breitbart


c. "Cruz assaulted students, cursed out teachers, kicked in classroom doors, started fist fights, threw chairs, threatened to kill other students, mutilated small animals, pulled a rifle on his mother, drank gasoline and cut himself, among other "red flags."
Threatening to kill someone is a felony. In addition to locking Cruz away for a while, having a felony record would have prevented him from purchasing a gun.
Cruz was never arrested. He wasn't referred to law enforcement. He wasn't even expelled."

The School-To-Mass-Murder Pipeline


d. Obama warned schools not to discipline school children, no matter their actions, if they were members of an authorized minority....meaning, the group voted Democrat.
As a result, Nikolas Cruz was given a pass....multiple passes.....and that unblemished record allowed him to avoid being identified as a possible homicidal maniac.



e. Liberals are responsible for
creating Gun Free Zones
prescribing psychotropic medicines to children
and for the moronic idea behind the "school-to-prison pipeline" policy that allowed Nikolas Cruz to remain free and obtain a weapon.


f. This primitive, stone-age thinking was made official Broward County policy in a Nov. 5, 2013, agreement titled "Collaborative Agreement on School Discipline."

The first "whereas" clause of the agreement states that "the use of arrests and referrals to the criminal justice system may decrease a student's chance of graduation, entering higher education, joining the military and getting a job."

The agreement's third "whereas” clause specifically cites "students of color" as victims of the old, racist policy of treating criminal behavior criminally.'"
The School-To-Mass-Murder Pipeline



g. "The new policy resulted from an Obama administration effort begun in 2011 to keep students in school and improve racial outcomes (timeline here)..."
https://www.realclearinvestigations...cipline_policy_and_the_parkland_shooting.html





Gun control folks regularly bring up background checks.

Why?

Obama’s Promise Program resulted in Nikolas Cruz not having an arrest record…..nothing that a background check would reveal.

So…..he could buy weapons legally.


Obama, Liberal policies that favor criminals, was responsible for the massacre....Democrat policies.



Now.....what will happen to the one responsible for 17 deaths....Obama?

At the end of the day, Nickolas Cruz... just like Adam Lanza, the Columbine shooters, Dylan Roof, etc., etc. could have been detected and dealt with early on - and maybe a lot of lives could be saved.

But, the left don't care about saving lives. It's only about gun control.


"It's only about gun control."

Make that 'gun confiscation' and I'm on board with your statement.
 

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