Who are the GOP Intellectuals, if any?

[MaggieMae]

Since intellectuals are elitist and possibly Communists

There are no intellectuals in the Republican party

Nor should there be. Conservatism is an ideal and a philosophy more than it is an intellectual proposition. It's about Belief as much as Logic. Therefore intellectualism is largely antithetical to the very idea of Conservatism.

Liberalism is also an ideal and a philosophy. Liberalism and conservatism have been at odds since time immemorial, but intellectuals from both camps recognize that you can't shove "beliefs" down the throats of believers in the opposite, and so they eventually find peaceful, common ground and create laws of the land accordingly. Sooner or later even non-intellectuals accept this, and we have brief interludes of unity (although they get more rare as time marches on).

 

[Dot Com]

Soggy is such a Far RW reactionary fringer he wouldn't recognize a true RW Intellectual if they bitchslapped him in the face.


lol

A true intellectual period.

lol no argument here.

 

[MaggieMae]

Charles Krauthammer, Victor Davis Hanson, Newt Gingrich, George Will, William Kristol, William Bennett, Chester Finn, Michael Ledeen, Peggy Noonan, Richard Perle, Peter Robinson, Peter Wallison, John Cogan, Murray Weidenbaum, , Doug Bandow, Peter Wehner, Michael Horowitz, Paul Wolfowitz, William Niskanen, Christopher DeMuth, Terry Eastland, Thomas Sowell, David Brooks

Very strange list. Two of the engineers of the Iraq war, Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz? Both of them have faded into oblivion.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Soggy is such a Far RW reactionary fringer he wouldn't recognize a true RW Intellectual if they bitchslapped him in the face.


lol

A true intellectual period.

Yeah, you, Marc, Dot Bomb and Wry have a real Algonquin Round Table going on here.

Lighten up... you guys are as regular as they come.

 

[Trajan]

Since intellectuals are elitist and possibly Communists

There are no intellectuals in the Republican party

Nor should there be. Conservatism is an ideal and a philosophy more than it is an intellectual proposition. It's about Belief as much as Logic. Therefore intellectualism is largely antithetical to the very idea of Conservatism.

Liberalism is also an ideal and a philosophy. Liberalism and conservatism have been at odds since time immemorial, but intellectuals from both camps recognize that you can't shove "beliefs" down the throats of believers in the opposite, and so they eventually find peaceful, common ground and create laws of the land accordingly. Sooner or later even non-intellectuals accept this, and we have brief interludes of unity (although they get more rare as time marches on).

uhm what? do you know who hobbes or locke were? today's ' liberalism' have moved a lot further away from its inception and roots than say conservatism has moved from Buckley's.

 

[MaggieMae]

In my humble opinion, you can take any politician....any politician at all, their intelligence is at best the cream of the crap and no more. If any of them had any real life intelligence we wouldn't be anywhere near 14 trillion in debt, and not a clue on how to fix it. I don't know what's with this oneupsmanship of a thread.

For the last decade, the creeping debt was not a number one priority. Now that it is, the folks in Washington are only concerned with the blame game and trying to pull the rug out from under each other. I hope someone wakes me up when those guys get serious about FIXING the problems instead of grandstanding their way into the winner's circle.

I think the only serious chance there is this year of seeing any concrete plan where the opposite sides don't JUST SAY NO will be the results of the bipartisan "Gang of Six" which has been quietly working behind the scenes to try to implement many of the Bowles-Simpson debt commission recommendations. The six are Kent Conrad (D-ND), Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) Mark Warner (D-VA.), Tom Coburn (R-OK), Mike Crapo (R-ID) and Saxby Chambliss (R-GA).

 

[MaggieMae]

Who was the last ivory tower egghead we had running the nation? Wilson IIRC? President of Princeton? Totaled this nation something fierce, dragged us into WW1, had thousands of political prisoners and citizenship leagues running roughshod over political opposition.

Harding won on the "Return to Normalcy" theme.

Seems we have a theme going here with intellectuals in power. But you libs keep checking P-BO for colon polyps with your tongue.

The smartest, most experienced man or woman in the world would have a hard time trying to please a diverse country of 308 million people, all with special wants and critiques of how government should and should not be run. Trying to sort that all out is why government expanded so much in the last 100 years by every single president up to and including the present one. Republicans think they can do better and convince the public; when they can't, they get voted out. Democrats say AHA, see? We can do it better, but they can't either, so they get voted out. And round and round it goes.

 

[MaggieMae]

Too much government sponsored education is a bad thing.

All you have to do is look at the track record to know that.

You've been told only one side of the story because the corporate elites who own your party want subsidies & bailouts without the reciprocal tax burden of maintaining the institutional advantages of a great civilization (which advantages include world class public education, the very thing lacking in the 3rd world).

During the Cold War, the government invested heavily into the California state schools, as well Stanford & MIT and various institutions across the country. These institutions not only provided ground breaking research (handed to corporations by corrupt politicians), but they educated one of the most powerful and productive groups of people in world history: the postwar middle class. It was our great GOVERNMENT FUNDED educational institutions that Reagan bragged about to the world when he claimed moral superiority over the Soviets, whose poor citizens didn't have access to a great public education.

How dare you scorn things like the GI Bill, which gave our brave soldiers an opportunity to become educated at some of our greatest PUBLIC universities. (public because they were the most affordable, and most GI Bill friendly)

Many of the men who died in WWII fighting for your freedom enjoyed world class high school educations that less advanced countries don't provide. Many our brave fighters were proud of their country for its ability to educate the hard working poor, many of whom could not afford private universities.

You have been so terribly drugged by movement conservatism, which is owned by corporations who don't want the tax burden of creating a thriving public sector that benefits the POOR hard workers who built the Hoover Dam or fought for this country's freedom.

Psst: Before the GOP lied to a generation of morons, the relationship between Big Government and Education created things of value far in excess of today's private sector heroes, who play hedge fund casino capitalism with the nation's future... (and they convince you it's freedom). Study the Cold War relationship between Government & Stanford or MIT, specially the technological breakthroughs. Research which great PUBLIC high schools educated Brokaw's "Greatest Generations". These great men from PUBLIC high schools built and defended this great nation.

It was the corporate captured GOP, starting in the 70's, who waged ideological warfare against the greatest public education system in the world. They defunded education so there would be more money for subsidies, tax breaks, and bailouts. And now American students are falling behind in every category. (This wasn't the case before the GOP started to undermine faith in, and funding for public education)

When was the last time the USA lead the globe in math & science? During the postwar years, when Washington taxed mega-corporations and elite wealthy dynasties in order to create the best education system in the world.

Son, this country was built upon a very basic social contract. "If you corporations want American Soldiers to die securing your oil field; and if you want us to bail you out every time your company makes a mistake; and if you want massive subsidies; and if you want the benefit of technologic advances made because of taxpayer funding, than you are going to provide for a world class public education system. You are going to repay the massive contribution made to your profit-margin by the taxpayer. (what do you think lobbying is for son. It's a system designed to get free tax payer money, and free government services)

Son, the major engines of wealth used to give back to the society which made that wealth possible. But then, those wealth engines invested money into think tanks and popular media for the purpose of molding your opinion. They have used you to gut this nation's great institutions.

Son, you've been lied to. And that lie destroyed this country.

 

[MaggieMae]

I have to say, when I told my Liberal friends about Harding and Coolidge the first thing they said was "LOL." They thought I made them up because "Warren G Harding" and "Coolidge" sound like gangster names and they had no idea these people were ever president. Yet "Smaller Government" does not work in their eyes (that is changing without my help funny enough) despite "BushII" being their only knowledge of a "Small Government guy." Funny how Obama's policies match Bush's and Obama is known for being almost on par with FDR with Government growth.

Because their economic problems were almost identical.

 

[skookerasbil]

Going back to Ronald Reagan, he was a "B" movie actor.

Then you had A lister, Arnold, probably an even better actor than Ron, but an alien, can't be president.

Then you have bathing suit runway walker Sarah Palin.

Then there is "nude centerfold magazine model", Scott Brown.

Don't forget "talk show host" and "comic" and "strummer", Mike Huckabee.

Now there is reality TV show star Donald Trump.

When I see GOP, I think of these as the "intellectual heavy hitters". If not them, then who?

Far left guys always automatically believe the best president is the smartest president. Thats because they are almost never in charge of anything.

So now......we evidently have the most brilliant president ever and the country is totally fcukked in the opinion of the people ( see poll #'s).

Real, real smart guys that have amounted to nothing in life are a dime a dozen.

 

[MaggieMae]

Soggy is such a Far RW reactionary fringer he wouldn't recognize a true RW Intellectual if they bitchslapped him in the face.


lol

A true intellectual period.

Yeah, you, Marc, Dot Bomb and Wry have a real Algonquin Round Table going on here.

Lighten up... you guys are as regular as they come.

If you ever had anything of real substance to say instead of (or even in addition to) insults, you might be seen as more credible and not as laughable.

 

[MaggieMae]

Nor should there be. Conservatism is an ideal and a philosophy more than it is an intellectual proposition. It's about Belief as much as Logic. Therefore intellectualism is largely antithetical to the very idea of Conservatism.

Liberalism is also an ideal and a philosophy. Liberalism and conservatism have been at odds since time immemorial, but intellectuals from both camps recognize that you can't shove "beliefs" down the throats of believers in the opposite, and so they eventually find peaceful, common ground and create laws of the land accordingly. Sooner or later even non-intellectuals accept this, and we have brief interludes of unity (although they get more rare as time marches on).

uhm what? do you know who hobbes or locke were? today's ' liberalism' have moved a lot further away from its inception and roots than say conservatism has moved from Buckley's.

William F. Buckley has undoubtedly done many turns in his grave over the "new" conservative movement. If he could see his magazine now and the omissions and embellishments that amount to downright lies every single week, he would have the heads of those in charge. Buckley didn't HATE just for the sake of political gain, which largely defines followers of the radical right these days.

 

[MaggieMae]

Well this has been fun, but with about 135 postings thus far, I think I've seen only two that actually offered any names from the conservative camp.

 

[Mustang]

GOP intellectuals?

Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck, probably qualify, considering their large following of dittoheads who hang on their every utterance. They also have something else in common. All of them do not have any formal education past high school. That brings up an interesting question. Are they REALLY intellectuals, or are they really just pretentious know-it-alls?

If the answer is the latter, I guess that would make them pseudointellectuals and NOT intellectuals, at all.

 

[mudwhistle]

Krauthammer and the Baseball writer, that old guy that hacks on the ABC sunday show most every week.

Can't think of his name.

Both are hacks though.

The left thinks being conservative makes you dumb so it's all a matter of opinion.

 

[mudwhistle]

In all seriousness I don't think many that consider being an intellectual is important are all that bright themselves.

They've been suckered so many times by scam-artist politicians and charlatans that they appear half-witted at best.

This fascination with inteligence by the left is getting boring, especially from people that have such a predilection for collective thinking. The very same people that hold Jon Stewart, a comedian, in such high regard when it comes to news.

 

[The T]

Krauthammer and the Baseball writer, that old guy that hacks on the ABC sunday show most every week.

Can't think of his name.

Both are hacks though.

You're Correct. Krauthammer is a HACK.

 

[mudwhistle]

GOP intellectuals?

Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck, probably qualify, considering their large following of dittoheads who hang on their every utterance. They also have something else in common. All of them do not have any formal education past high school. That brings up an interesting question. Are they REALLY intellectuals, or are they really just pretentious know-it-alls?

If the answer is the latter, I guess that would make them pseudointellectuals and NOT intellectuals, at all.

Conservative intellectuals don't have their own talk-shows dip-shit.

 

[The T]

Going back to Ronald Reagan, he was a "B" movie actor.

Then you had A lister, Arnold, probably an even better actor than Ron, but an alien, can't be president.

Then you have bathing suit runway walker Sarah Palin.

Then there is "nude centerfold magazine model", Scott Brown.

Don't forget "talk show host" and "comic" and "strummer", Mike Huckabee.

Now there is reality TV show star Donald Trump.

When I see GOP, I think of these as the "intellectual heavy hitters". If not them, then who?

Deany? WHY even ask? WE have told you until we've switched into NAIL DEANY MODE...

You don't belive a THING you're told unless it has to do with RACE, and ONLY if it suggests favouring your beliefs...

So WHY do you waste Bandwidth, and a larger carbon footprint to portend to even ask such an incipid question to start with?

 

[Harry Dresden]

Patriotic Americans want to lift up all Americans.

so going by this.....your not too Patriotic.....are you?......keep em Divided is your game Chauncey.....

Lol, it is funny watching people own themselves... Yet Rtard won't even grasp or agree that he JUST did something "bad." Rtard then proves daily he wants nothing to do with being a good or better person.

and all the ass does is talk divisive talk.....Dean only wants to lift up those who think like he does.....lift up ALL Americans my aching ass.....