Who can identify the five lies in Trump’s 8:17 AM Tweet on his upcoming Stop the Steal insurrection?

[NotfooledbyW]

NFBW wrote: I am an adult who did not personally know Magellan nor did I personally witness the voyage he made around the world

9thIDdoc wrote: As far as I know you may also believe the tooth fairy pays cash for teeth 21DEC15-POST#0795

NFBW wrote: Your substitution of the TOOTH FAIRY in place of a real historical figure like Magellan is absurd. We have uncovered the FACT that your inability to accept that a specific White House meeting took place despite actual proof on the record that it did, coupled with your inability to make a case that it did not happen, has reduced you to being absurd. 21DEC15-POST#0801

 

[Correll]

NFBW wrote: I am an adult who did not personally know Magellan nor did I personally witness the voyage he made around the world

9thIDdoc wrote: As far as I know you may also believe the tooth fairy pays cash for teeth 21DEC15-POST#0795

NFBW wrote: Your substitution of the TOOTH FAIRY in place of a real historical figure like Magellan is absurd. We have uncovered the FACT that your inability to accept that a specific White House meeting took place despite actual proof on the record that it did, coupled with your inability to make a case that it did not happen, has reduced you to being absurd. 21DEC15-POST#0801

Actually, the vast majority of Americans, do not know about, nor care about that specific meeting, if it happened.


Your claim that someone is "absurd" for not knowing about something you care so much about,

is actually you being "absurd".

 

[Kondor3]

Kondor3 wrote: There was Insurrection against the lawful authority of the United States and assault upon the Congress while engaged in its Constitutional duty. 21NOV25-POST#0717

9thIDdoc wrote: The pretense of an "insurrection" has never been more than left wing propaganda and all their weeping and gnashing of teeth has provided zero proof otherwise. 21NOV25-POST#719

9thIDdoc wrote: I find left wing propaganda attempting to turn "protest' into "insurrection" absurd and ridiculous. There is a difference between "protest" "riot" and "insurrection" and quite a large one. 21DEC14-POST#0773

NFBW wrote: FACT: The indicted Oath Keepers were the primary rioters that turned the J6DJT protest' into an "insurrection" in the midst of a riot. - - - It was not left wingers that turned Jan6 protests into a riot. - - Ashley Babbitt turned a peaceful protest into a political riot. That dumb woman’s last message indicates she thought she was participating in an insurrection: - the Qanon storm 21DEC15-POST#0786

“”” In the final months of her life, Babbitt’s posts took on a biblical fervor, casting Trump’s supporters as warriors in an epic battle of good versus evil.​

https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/5928249/ashli-babbitt-capitol-extremism/?amp=true​

Her last tweet, sent after she arrived in Washington on Jan. 5, read: “Nothing will stop us….they can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours….dark to light!” The reference to the “storm” is a key tenet of the QAnon conspiracy, the day adherents believe a violent reckoning will expose the deep state and bring Trump’s enemies to justice. Jan6-TIME-BabbitMartyr 21DEC15-POST#0786​

Correct...

It was, indeed, INSURRECTION...

To borrow a phrase from the Sixties...

"Up against the wall, muthaphukkers"

Metaphorically, anyway, in the criminal law courts...

Although it IS a damned shame that several dozen more of those traitorous phukks aren't pushing-up daisies...

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Correll wrote: For example, I'm sure that his talk of "wild rally" IN HIS MIND, is clearly somehow "proof" that Trump was calling for the Insurrection, or something like that, 21DEC15- POST#0800

Trump, tweeted on Dec. 20. "Big protest in DC on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!"

NFBW wrote: The reason I posted the above DJT TWEET was to establish as fact not opinion that:

• DJT desired to have thousands of his supporters in DC on Jan6 to peacefully protest his loss to Joe Biden
• The protest was expected to be big
• The protest was expected to be wild
• DJT began calling for a big wild protest on Jan6 six days after all fifty states certified their electors to be counted naming Biden President-elect on Jan6

I am clearly saying - The talk of “wild rally” by DJT is talk of “wild rally” by DJT - - - It is not proof that DJT called for an Insurrection, violence or a riot or anything like that. As far as I know and stated earlier Trump called for a big wild peaceful protest and nothing more in his December 21 2020 tweet…. Exactly like I said it yesterday Correll if you could read

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NFBW wrote: Is it true . MAGA birds? . . (#1) that DJT in mid-December began to promote a large gonna be “wild” rally seeking tens of thousands of his supporters who believed he actually won the 2020 election to be in DC specifically on Jan6 to attend a peaceful but wild rally that would be a patriot’s last chance to save America from Democrat Party destruction? 21DEC14-POST#0759​

You owe me an apology Correll 21DEC15- POST#0804

 

[Correll]

Correll wrote: For example, I'm sure that his talk of "wild rally" IN HIS MIND, is clearly somehow "proof" that Trump was calling for the Insurrection, or something like that, 21DEC15- POST#0800

Trump, tweeted on Dec. 20. "Big protest in DC on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!"

NFBW wrote: The reason I posted the above DJT TWEET was to establish as fact not opinion that:

• DJT desired to have thousands of his supporters in DC on Jan6 to peacefully protest his loss to Joe Biden
• The protest was expected to be big
• The protest was expected to be wild
• DJT began calling for a big wild protest on Jan6 six days after all fifty states certified their electors to be counted naming Biden President-elect on Jan6

I am clearly saying - The talk of “wild rally” by DJT is talk of “wild rally” by DJT - - - It is not proof that DJT called for an Insurrection, violence or a riot or anything like that. As far as I know and stated earlier Trump called for a big wild peaceful protest and nothing more in his December 21 2020 tweet…. Exactly like I said it yesterday Correll if you could read

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NFBW wrote: Is it true . MAGA birds? . . (#1) that DJT in mid-December began to promote a large gonna be “wild” rally seeking tens of thousands of his supporters who believed he actually won the 2020 election to be in DC specifically on Jan6 to attend a peaceful but wild rally that would be a patriot’s last chance to save America from Democrat Party destruction? 21DEC14-POST#0759​

You owe me an apology Correll 21DEC15- POST#0804

Except you have a history of leaving out the point you were trying to make, and then acting as though you had made it, and it was not something other people believed, becuase you made it.


What is your point with these posts?


What what I do here. See if it makes any sense to you, or even feels familiar.


So, since NOT has posted that he knows that Trump was calling for a peaceful protest, then he is admitting that all his earlier talk of insurrection was a lie, and thus all those who are calling 1/6 an insurrection, are liars and should be ashamed and....well even more shit.


So, what is your point? OMG, I hope it is not what I think it is. If so, that point was dealt with completely, WEEKS ago. Dude. Please don't go there.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

“DJT desired to have thousands of his supporters in DC on Jan6 to peacefully protest his loss to Joe Biden”

If not true Correll and 9thIDdoc will you explain what is not true in the statement above?

 

[Correll]

“DJT desired to have thousands of his supporters in DC on Jan6 to peacefully protest his loss to Joe Biden”

If not true Correll and 9thIDdoc will you explain what is not true in the statement above?

You are including in the statement your conclusion that Trump "loss" to Biden. That is your opinion. Many disagree. Trump certainly did. And ou are discussing HIS motive, so HIS opinion is very important.

 

[9thIDdoc]

“DJT desired to have thousands of his supporters in DC on Jan6 to peacefully protest his loss to Joe Biden”

If not true Correll and 9thIDdoc will you explain what is not true in the statement above?

I don't consider it true that Trump lost the election to Biden. The protestors were there for the same reason. A substantial percentage of Americans hold the same opinion. You are more than free to have a different opinion but you are not free to demand anyone else accept that as fact. If you want to claim fact you must prove it to the other person's satisfaction. So prove your alleged facts or STFU.

 

[Correll]

I don't consider it true that Trump lost the election to Biden. The protestors were there for the same reason. A substantial percentage of Americans hold the same opinion. You are more than free to have a different opinion but you are not free to demand anyone else accept that as fact. If you want to claim fact you must prove it to the other person's satisfaction. So prove your alleged facts or STFU.

He is repeating it over and over again, very strongly. What more do you want from him?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Correll wrote: So, since NOT has posted that he knows that Trump was calling for a peaceful protest, then he is admitting that all his earlier talk of insurrection was a lie, 21DEC15-POST#0805

NFBW wrote: I do not presume to know DJT’s intent on December 20. The tweet being discussed did not make reference to violence. I have no reason to believe DJT‘s call for a big wild protest had an expectation of his protesters initiating and escalating into violence. so get that straight. - - - Bigger issue you need to address Correll is why do you think DJT’s call for peaceful protesters negates other things DJT could have done to inspire and incite an attempt to overturn the election after it was certified. - - - there was a peaceful protest and a riot and an attack on the certification of the electors all going on at the same time wasn’t there? 21DEC15-POST#08

 

[NotfooledbyW]

I don't consider it true that Trump lost the election to Biden.

Who is President of the United States of America right now?

 

[Correll]

Correll wrote: So, since NOT has posted that he knows that Trump was calling for a peaceful protest, then he is admitting that all his earlier talk of insurrection was a lie, 21DEC15-POST#0805

NFBW wrote: I do not presume to know DJT’s intent on December 20. The tweet being discussed did not make reference to violence. I have no reason to believe DJT‘s call for a big wild protest had an expectation of his protesters initiating and escalating into violence. so get that straight. - - - Bigger issue you need to address Correll is why do you think DJT’s call for peaceful protesters negates other things DJT could have done to inspire and incite an attempt to overturn the election after it was certified. - - - there was a peaceful protest and a riot and an attack on the certification of the electors all going on at the same time wasn’t there? 21DEC15-POST#08

Why would you even think that one action would "negate" another? What are you even talking about?

Get to your point. This bit where you hint at it for days, is just a manifestation of your craziness.

 

[Correll]

Who is President of the United States of America right now?

Do you believe in God?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

“DJT desired to have thousands of his supporters in DC on Jan6 to peacefully protest his loss to Joe Biden”

9thIDdoc wrote: I don't consider it true that Trump lost the election to Biden. 21DEC15-POST#0808

NFBW Wrote: DJT considered it true that he lost the election.. see below - he said “ if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election.” PENCE did not do the right thing on Jan6. So he lost the election. 21DEC15-POST#0814

Jan6, 2021 ttps://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-01-13/transcript-of-trumps-speech-at-rally-before-us-capitol-riot?context=amp​

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Trump rallying the forces at noon January 6, 2021: - - - “John is one of the most brilliant lawyers in the country, and he looked at this and he said, “What an absolute disgrace that this can be happening to our Constitution.”​

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And he looked at Mike Pence, and I hope Mike is going to do the right thing. I hope so. I hope so. - - - Because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election. All he has to do, all this is, this is from the number one, or certainly one of the top, Constitutional lawyers in our country. He has the absolute right to do it. We’re supposed to protect our country, support our country, support our Constitution, and protect our constitution. - - - States want to revote. The states got defrauded, They were given false information. They voted on it. Now they want to recertify. They want it back. All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people.” 21JAN06-DJT-jEASTMAN​

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NFBW Wrote: Who is better than DJT to help you consider it true that he lost the election..

So tell me Correll and 9thIDdoc if you can accept the following revised statement to be correct and factual as stated. 21DEC15-POST#0814

“DJT desired to have thousands of his supporters in DC on Jan6 to peacefully protest what he complains was a fraudulent election that he lost. 21DEC15-POST#0814

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Correll wrote: You are including in the statement your conclusion that Trump "loss" to Biden. That is your opinion. Many disagree. Trump certainly did. 21DEC15-POST#0807

NFBW Wrote: No. It is not opinion that DJT lost. Fifty states certified Biden’s win according to the Constitution and election law and they sent their certified results to Congress. Then Congress counted the electors on JAN6 and confirmed Biden won. - - - DJT considered it absolutely true and in a common set of facts about the election that he lost - - - He said “ if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election.” PENCE did not do the right thing on Jan6. So it is a fact that DJT lost the election. 21DEC15-POST#0815

Trump rallying the forces at noon January 6, 2021: - - - “John is one of the most brilliant lawyers in the country, and he looked at this and he said, “What an absolute disgrace that this can be happening to our Constitution.”​

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And he looked at Mike Pence, and I hope Mike is going to do the right thing. I hope so. I hope so. - - - Because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election. All he has to do, all this is, this is from the number one, or certainly one of the top, Constitutional lawyers in our country. He has the absolute right to do it. We’re supposed to protect our country, support our country, support our Constitution, and protect our constitution. - - - States want to revote. The states got defrauded, They were given false information. They voted on it. Now they want to recertify. They want it back. All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people.” 21JAN06-DJT-jEASTMAN​

NFBW Wrote: Who is better than DJT to help you consider it true Correll that he lost the election..? 21DEC15-POST#0815

 

[NotfooledbyW]

NFBW wrote: Your substitution of the TOOTH FAIRY in place of a real historical figure like Magellan is absurd. We have uncovered the FACT that your inability to accept that a specific White House meeting took place despite actual proof on the record that it did, coupled with your inability to make a case that it did not happen, has reduced you to being absurd. 21DEC15-POST#0801

Correll wrote: Your claim that someone is "absurd" for not knowing about something you care so much about, 21DEC15- POST#0802

NFBW wrote: You are a liar Correll . . . I wrote; . . . The inability to accept that a specific White House meeting took place despite actual proof on the record that it did, coupled with the inability to make a case that it did not happen has reduced you to being absurd. 21DEC15-POST#0816

 

[Batcat]

Really doesn't matter if the republicans want to run a presidential candidate in 2024 or not. Nobody will be forgetting that a huge chunk of the republican party is perfectly fine with what trump did. Nobody going forget. Nobody in their right mind would trust anybody running for presidency on that party ticket, that soon, and certainly not trump's VP, as he supported him all the way until he was ask to sacrifice himself by the orange asshole.

Well it is possible that Joe Biden will run for President and unless some miracle occurs and his popularity increases he will lose in a landslide. He will go out to campaign and the crowd will chant, “Let’s go Brandon“ if not “F**k Joe Biden.”

Giggles Kamala Harris could run but nobody seems to think she is competent as VP let alone POTUS.

It seems Hillary is once again getting ready to run but people are SICK and TIRED of Hillary and all her whining about how Trump stole her chance to be our first female President. Will Hillary ever go away?

Perhaps Bernie Sanders will run or perhaps AOC who will turn 35 in October of 2024 (the legal age to become President). I don’t thing the nation is ready for Marist socialism but I could be wrong. Our school systems and colleges have done of good job of brainwashing the younger generations.

Much will depend on the economy. If inflation is roaring along the Democrats can forget winning the Oval Office. Also if the big cities are still having a crime spree the republicans will run a strict law and order candidate and likely win.

I suspect the democrats will tie Trump up in court and make it almost impossible to run. However there are a number of republicans such as Ron DeSantis the Governor of the free state of Florida who could take Trump’s place. DeSantis is a less obnoxious version of Trump.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

9thIDdoc wrote: I am not required to believe such a meeting occurred or what may have been discussed there or the legality of what you allege was discussed. 21DEC15-POST#0795

Correll wrote: Actually, the vast majority of Americans, do not know about, nor care about that specific meeting, if it happened. 21DEC15- POST#0802

Question for both of you:

NFBW wrote: I am an agnostic with regard to my personal belief in god - - - Is it a fact or is it an opinion that a man named Jody Hice is a member of the US House of Representatives from Walton County Georgia as described in the newspaper report shown below?

20DEC21-Headline: Walton's congressman meets with Trump in White House​

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David Clemons | The Tribune Dec 21, 2020 Updated Jan 29, 2021​

Rep. Jody Hice, R-Ga., addressess a meeting of the Walton County Republican Party on Oct. 12, 2020, at 1025 Church in Monroe, Ga.​

Hice to challenge Georgia's electors in Congress (#2) J6DJT riot jHice 20DEC21-wt 21DEC16 POST#0818

 

[Correll]

“DJT desired to have thousands of his supporters in DC on Jan6 to peacefully protest his loss to Joe Biden”

9thIDdoc wrote: I don't consider it true that Trump lost the election to Biden. 21DEC15-POST#0808

NFBW Wrote: DJT considered it true that he lost the election.. see below - he said “ if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election.” PENCE did not do the right thing on Jan6. So he lost the election. 21DEC15-POST#0814

Jan6, 2021 ttps://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-01-13/transcript-of-trumps-speech-at-rally-before-us-capitol-riot?context=amp​

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Trump rallying the forces at noon January 6, 2021: - - - “John is one of the most brilliant lawyers in the country, and he looked at this and he said, “What an absolute disgrace that this can be happening to our Constitution.”​

​

And he looked at Mike Pence, and I hope Mike is going to do the right thing. I hope so. I hope so. - - - Because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election. All he has to do, all this is, this is from the number one, or certainly one of the top, Constitutional lawyers in our country. He has the absolute right to do it. We’re supposed to protect our country, support our country, support our Constitution, and protect our constitution. - - - States want to revote. The states got defrauded, They were given false information. They voted on it. Now they want to recertify. They want it back. All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people.” 21JAN06-DJT-jEASTMAN​

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NFBW Wrote: Who is better than DJT to help you consider it true that he lost the election..

So tell me Correll and 9thIDdoc if you can accept the following revised statement to be correct and factual as stated. 21DEC15-POST#0814

“DJT desired to have thousands of his supporters in DC on Jan6 to peacefully protest what he complains was a fraudulent election that he lost. 21DEC15-POST#0814

1. Seems someone is back to claiming to know what Trump's intent was.

2. Yes. IMO, Trump did want a sizable peaceful protest on 1/6.

3. Get to the point, loser.

 

[Correll]

Correll wrote: You are including in the statement your conclusion that Trump "loss" to Biden. That is your opinion. Many disagree. Trump certainly did. 21DEC15-POST#0807

NFBW Wrote: No. It is not opinion that DJT lost. Fifty states certified Biden’s win according to the Constitution and election law and they sent their certified results to Congress. Then Congress counted the electors on JAN6 and confirmed Biden won. - - - DJT considered it absolutely true and in a common set of facts about the election that he lost - - - He said “ if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election.” PENCE did not do the right thing on Jan6. So it is a fact that DJT lost the election. 21DEC15-POST#0815

Trump rallying the forces at noon January 6, 2021: - - - “John is one of the most brilliant lawyers in the country, and he looked at this and he said, “What an absolute disgrace that this can be happening to our Constitution.”​

​

And he looked at Mike Pence, and I hope Mike is going to do the right thing. I hope so. I hope so. - - - Because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election. All he has to do, all this is, this is from the number one, or certainly one of the top, Constitutional lawyers in our country. He has the absolute right to do it. We’re supposed to protect our country, support our country, support our Constitution, and protect our constitution. - - - States want to revote. The states got defrauded, They were given false information. They voted on it. Now they want to recertify. They want it back. All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people.” 21JAN06-DJT-jEASTMAN​

NFBW Wrote: Who is better than DJT to help you consider it true Correll that he lost the election..? 21DEC15-POST#0815

Mmm, so you are taking Trump at his word now? Do you believe Trump's words are always true and correct, "FACTUALLY SPEAKING"?