Who divided America more, Trump or Biden? (Poll)

[Eyepublius]

The media especially social media.

Yep just read the crap posted here at the many wild forums... most are scary and shitty at the same time.

 

[emilynghiem]

Obama and Trump equally exposed the divided left and right along liberal race lines.

Clinton and Biden have done more to unite people across party lines to denounce incompetent and corrupt Democrats.

 

[zaangalewa]

Which president is/was more unifying for America?

Abraham Lincoln?

 

[Smokin' OP]

The next time, he wont have to worry about being reelected which gives him much greater flexibility to do things..

Do you know what Obama was referencing?
Obviously not, and either do the RW morons.

Obama was referring to the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty with Russia, signed by Reagan, in 1987.

You know what Obama did?
NOTHING.

You know what the orange, retard, did?
He cancelled it, leaving Putin to build and stage more missiles, along Russia's border, aimed at Europe.
Putin couldn't have been happier.

 

[kyzr]

Abraham Lincoln?

Nope. We are fighting over Abe Lincoln too:

The 1619 Project’s Outrageous, Lying Slander of Abe Lincoln

The New York Times’ 1619 Project has aimed at nothing less than a revolutionary re-interpretation of the entirety of U.S. history, “re-centering” African-Americans as the sole banner-carriers of America’s principles, even as they have been ruthlessly smashed down, enslaved and obliterated from...

www.heritage.org

 

[kyzr]

Do you know what Obama was referencing?
Obviously not, and either do the RW morons.

Obama was referring to the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty with Russia, signed by Reagan, in 1987.

You know what Obama did?
NOTHING.

You know what the orange, retard, did?
He cancelled it, leaving Putin to build and stage more missiles, along Russia's border, aimed at Europe.
Putin couldn't have been happier.

Why would Putin destroy his gas customers?
Xiden approved the Nord Stream 2 pipeline so that Russia sells gas to the EU.
Why are you still worried about nukes?
Better yet, why does the US still have troops in the EU?

 

[zaangalewa]

Why would Putin destroy his gas customers?

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Xiden approved the Nord Stream 2 pipeline so that Russia sells gas to the EU.

Russia always sold natural gas to the EU. For example via Turkey and via Ukraine. Nord Stream 2 is only an additional pipeline directly from Russia to Germany. In 2018 the discussion about this theme in Germany ended with the decision for this pipeline. Start of construction had been 05/15/2018.

Why are you still worried about nukes?
Better yet, why does the US still have troops in the EU?

Take them. Leave Germany - I say ´not "yesterday" as I normally say since Donald Trump convinced me that it is the best that the USA has to leave Germany. But soon you should do so - after you don't need Ramstein any longer to save the asses of your people in Afghanistan. And do not let back any "equipment" here in Germany - specially take all nukes with you.

 

[kyzr]

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Russia always sold natural gas to the EU. For example via Turkey and via Ukraine. Nord Stream 2 is only an additional pipeline directly from Russia to Germany. In 2018 the discussion about this theme in Germany ended with the decision for this pipeline. Start of construction had been 05/15/2018.

Take them. Leave Germany - I say ´not "yesterday" as I normally say since Donald Trump convinced me that it is the best that the USA has to leave Germany. But soon you should do so - after you don't need Ramstein any longer to save the asses of your people in Afghanistan. And do not let back any "equipment" here in Germany - specially take all nukes with you.

Thanks for that music video, my wife supposedly has a Teutonic knight in her ancestry.
1. The discussion point was about letting the INF Treaty with Russia expire.
2. So the EU isn't worried about Russian aggression anymore? They gladly buy Putin's gas so he has cash to fund his military.
3. Why should the US taxpayers pay to keep US troops in the EU? 50-years of paying for what the EU fails to pay for is long enough. Let the EU buildup their own militaries to fend off Russia.

 

[zaangalewa]

Thanks for that music video, my wife supposedly has a Teutonic knight in her ancestry.
1. The discussion point was about letting the INF Treaty with Russia expire.

It was cancelled from the USA. The opinion of Europeans in this context was and is for the USA, the former leader of the western world, totally unimportant. One result of this idiocy was it that Russia made clear if she will be attacked with such nukes from the European territory then she will attack the USA with intercontinental nukes.

2. So the EU isn't worried about Russian aggression anymore?

Why should we?

They gladly buy Putin's gas so he has cash to fund his military.

Exactly. In general we make business with the people of Russia since decades of thousands of years.

3. Why should the US taxpayers pay to keep US troops in the EU?

On no reason - except on reason of tradition.

50-years of paying for what the EU fails to pay for is long enough.

An interesting myth. It's called "not any political propaganda is able to be stupid enough not to be believed from idiots".

Let the EU buildup their own militaries to fend off Russia.

Or not. Bye bye USA.

 

[dblack]

Which president is/was more unifying for America? Biden is dividing us along party, racial, and class lines, Trump divided us along lines generated by the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage. So which president do you feel had the US more divided?

Pompeo knocks Biden: He 'successfully outlined a radical, socialist agenda'

Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo criticized President Biden's first joint address to Congress on Wednesday, calling the policies he called for a "radical, socialist agenda."

thehill.com

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So far, President Biden has successfully outlined a radical, socialist agenda for the next 4 years. That should trouble every freedom-loving American.​

Biden Could Do More to Unify the Country

Among right-wingers, there has been some delight about polls showing that Joe Biden's popularity at the 100-day mark is the lowest of any president since World War II. Oh, if you exclude Donald Trump. Undaunted by this detail, they note with satisfaction that Biden's approval rating, according...

townhall.com

It wouldn't cost Biden anything to signal openness to Republican ideas. He could incorporate some of Sen. Tim Scott's police reform ideas for example. That might defuse some Republican resentment. (And even if it doesn't pacify Republicans, it's the right thing to do.)

Even with the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage of Trump his approval rating was about 49% before covid hit. Biden's approval with a sycophantic MSM is about 57%. We'll see where 2022 and 2024 take the US next.

America divided itself. Most of us are idiotically consumed with the two-party pissing match, and demonizing the "other side".

 

[francoHFW]

Both IMO.

Biden is a lot worse both morally and politically as far as I'm concerned, however Trump was far from perfect too - at least Trump had the right ideas but it was his attitude/execution that let him down - it doesn't help when you're continually undermined by your fellow politicians and the media though.

Trump was also an ego maniac and a bit immature which doesn't help.

Biden IMO is borderline evil.

It's not just them two, though. They're just the figureheads to it all. A country is only as good as it's population and a large % of the American population (with the help of politicians, establishments, big businesses and the media) have just went full-scale retard.

Social media has a lot to answer for too.

The only evil is GOP propaganda about the big election steel, all the things that are worrying about the vaccine which is excellent, you name it everything they say is bologna and hateful.

 

[Kondor3]

It doesn't matter...

Sleepy Old Uncle Joe is a "placeholder president" tasked with holding the Republic together after Rump's failed coup attempt, until someone better appears...

Your Orange Baboon-God and his Rumplicans traitorously tried to overthrow the Republic and the Constitution and the Rule of Law, which is far, far, far worse...

 

[jknowgood]

The next time, he wont have to worry about being reelected which gives him much greater flexibility to do things..

Russian collusion right there.

 

[kyzr]

America divided itself. Most of us are idiotically consumed with the two-party pissing match, and demonizing the "other side".

Are we demonizing each other, or are policy differences so wide that there can be no compromise?
The democrats want socialism, and the Republicans want capitalism.
Democrats want open borders and lawlessness, Republicans want law and order
Democrats want to defund police and not prosecute criminals, GOP the opposite
Democrats want critical race theory and expand race issues, the GOP the opposite
The differences list is very long...

 

[kyzr]

It was cancelled from the USA. The opinion of Europeans in this context was and is for the USA, the former leader of the western world, totally unimportant. One result of this idiocy was it that Russia made clear if she will be attacked with such nukes from the European territory then it will attack the USA with intercontinental nukes.



Why should we?



Exactly. In general we make business with the people of Russia since decades of thousands of years.




On no reason.




An interesting myth.



Or not. Bye bye USA.

I'm good just participating in NATO, if you need us call.

 

[dblack]

Are we demonizing each other, or are policy differences so wide that there can be no compromise?

Definitely the former. Policy wise, I see little difference. They bicker over the particulars, but that's about it. They flip and flop with the wind. The sides they choose, for a given issue, are based purely on political expediency.

The democrats want socialism, and the Republicans want capitalism.

Nope. Both sides want corporatism (special interest politics).

Democrats want open borders and lawlessness, Republicans want law and order

Bullshit on both counts.

Democrats want to defund police and not prosecute criminals, GOP the opposite

Pointless theater.

Democrats want critical race theory and expand race issues, the GOP the opposite
The differences list is very long...

Not buying. Partisanship is killing us. Partisans are killing us.

 

[kyzr]

Definitely the former. Policy wise, I see little difference. They bicker over the particulars, but that's about it. They flip and flop with the wind. The sides they choose, for a given issue, are based purely on political expediency.

Nope. Both sides want corporatism (special interest politics).

Bullshit on both counts.

Pointless theater.

Not buying. Partisanship is killing us. Partisans are killing us.

Case in point, Amazon's HQ2, they wanted to put it in NYC, in AOC's district. 25,000 new jobs, modernizing a blighted area turning it into a corporate showplace. What happened? AOC and the local democrats chased it to VA because they are low-life, low-IQ MORONS.
Governor Cuomo said that cost NY state about $27b a year in new tax revenue.

The differences between parties are real.
The dems like the hi-tech oligarchs that can control access to information. The GOP wants to repeal section 230.

 

[dblack]

The differences between parties are real.

No, they're mostly fake. Neither side maintains any genuine principles or values. They just want to be in charge.

I read post after post on this board that make it abundantly clear. Democrats don't give a fuck about minorities and the poor. Republicans don't give a fuck about free markets and individual rights. The only thing either side cares about is "winning". Fuck them both.

 

[zaangalewa]

I'm good just participating in NATO, if you need us call.

For what should we need the USA? We are easily able to make desasters on our own.

 

[LuckyDuck]

Which president is/was more unifying for America? Biden is dividing us along party, racial, and class lines, Trump divided us along lines generated by the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage. So which president do you feel had the US more divided?

Pompeo knocks Biden: He 'successfully outlined a radical, socialist agenda'

Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo criticized President Biden's first joint address to Congress on Wednesday, calling the policies he called for a "radical, socialist agenda."

thehill.com

​

So far, President Biden has successfully outlined a radical, socialist agenda for the next 4 years. That should trouble every freedom-loving American.​

Biden Could Do More to Unify the Country

Among right-wingers, there has been some delight about polls showing that Joe Biden's popularity at the 100-day mark is the lowest of any president since World War II. Oh, if you exclude Donald Trump. Undaunted by this detail, they note with satisfaction that Biden's approval rating, according...

townhall.com

It wouldn't cost Biden anything to signal openness to Republican ideas. He could incorporate some of Sen. Tim Scott's police reform ideas for example. That might defuse some Republican resentment. (And even if it doesn't pacify Republicans, it's the right thing to do.)

Even with the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage of Trump his approval rating was about 49% before covid hit. Biden's approval with a sycophantic MSM is about 57%. We'll see where 2022 and 2024 take the US next.

Marxists!