Who divided America more, Trump or Biden? (Poll)

Who has America more bitterly divided on issues, Trump or Biden?

  • Trump, list issues Trump has us fighting over, where Biden is right

    Votes: 24 34.8%
  • Biden, list issues Biden has us fighting over, where Trump is right

    Votes: 45 65.2%

  • Total voters
    69
1. Open borders
2. Making DC a state
3. Making the US military more "woke" including Critical Race Theory
4. Massive spending when the US economy is recovering nicely, so massive inflation will result
5. HR-1, a recipe for one party rule
1. There are no open borders.
2. I wasn't aware taxation with representation was a radical ideal in the United States
3. We don't want anyone knowing about the racism in our past. Let's just sweep that under the rug.
4. Spending money to benefit average Americans? Just more radicalism I guess.
5. If making it easier for Americans vote results in one party rule, the problem is with your party, not mine.
1. Yes there are open borders, just look at the massive influx of illegals crossing the southern border
View attachment 487871
The blue line is Biden's open border policy.

2. DC has representation, if you don't like it don't live there, the US Constitution set up DC just fine.
3. The US is/was color-blind before Biden started his retro racist garbage
4. Runaway inflation hurts average Americans most
5. The GA & FL election reforms make it easier to vote, while reducing cheating.
1. Your graph shows apprehensions. Border ain’t open if they’re apprehending people.
2. DC has a nonvoting member of the house and nothing in the Senate. That’s not representation.
3. US history says we weren’t colorblind. Your attempt to cover up history is radical.
4. There is no runaway inflation. It’s just an excuse the right uses to avoid helping average Americans. When it was chucking tax money and lowering taxes on the wealthy, y’all didn’t worry.
5. Those reforms are mixed bags. Some things easier. Most things harder. The amount of cheating is minuscule, a few cases of cheating doesn’t justify making it harder to vote for everyone else. Funny how after Trump won y’all wanted to make it easier and then he loses y’all want to make it harder again. It’d be funny if it weren’t so obvious.
1. Apprehended and then let go, Its called "catch and release", duh.
2. The answer is to make the city part of MD, take it or leave it.
3. Colorblind is the answer, take it or leave it, otherwise "some people are more equal than others"
4. I'm not a fan of the GOP tax cuts, someone needs to pay the bills. I support most of the Biden tax increases, especially the transaction tax on financial transactions. $30T in Debt is a time-bomb that will consume the Federal Budget. I just oppose the crazy Biden spending plans.
5. Those voting reforms don't make it harder to vote. Biden's "Jim Crow" reference is senile.
1. Apprehended and kept. That’s why people are freaking about overwhelmed resources at HHS
2. That’s an answer. Not the only answer. The constitution also gives Congress the ability to create new states.
3. Rewriting history is never the answer. Teaching history does not make anyone better than anyone else.
4. Biden’s spending is extremely popular.
5. Sure. Georgia limits options localities have to engage voters and increases requirements for absentee voting. Florida is adding requirements to absentee ballots. It is restricting ballot drop boxes and limiting who can drop them off. Worse is that it changes the structure of election boards to make it easier to change the outcome after the election. HR1 doesn’t enable one party rule unless you think more people voting is bad for your party.
1. Catch and release
2. The senate's filibuster rule will not allow DC to become the 51st state. There are also constitutional challenges since DC was created by the Constitution, an Amendment would be required, which would never happen.
3. Teaching racism creating hostility and backlash is never a good idea. You reap what you sow.
4. Freebies are always popular, until inflation happens.
5. Red states have their laws, and blue states have theirs, never the twain shall meet.
1. Right, because separating parents from children was sooooo much less radical.
2. Then you have nothing to worry about and you're just fear mongering.
3. So we can't teach history because some white people might be offended at learning how previous generations have treated black people? That's pretty pathetic.
4. Then don't claim it's radical or divisive. I think your biggest fear is that Biden's policies ARE popular. That's bad news for your side.
5. Federal government has a role to play in making state elections are fair.
1. "Parents" sending kids north by themselves isn't separating them?? How many drowned on Biden's watch?
2. Correct, until the DC statehood gets a serious push, no sense whining.
3. My grandfather was a "breaker boy" who picked rocks from coal until his finger bones were showing. So pardon me if I don't care about how other people's ancestors were treated. As you said, that's ancient history.
4. 2022 and 2024 will settle a lot of arguments
5. Wrong. State legislatures set state election policies. Its in the Constitution.
1. Any kids sent north by their parents are encountered at the border and held by HHS. Trump's policy was to take parents who had their kids at the boarder and imprison the parents, keep the kids in custody. Separation. That was a radical policy, especially since they did it so badly that they happened to deport parents without kids and had no idea how to reunite them.
2. No sense in whining, then why did you bring it up?
3. Shush. We can't talk about how your grandfather was treated lest we offend someone. History is not divisive. It's truth.
4. The Republican party stands to gain if they push division and obstruction. That is, unless your side decides that it's time to go back to governing like we used to.
5. Yes, and for a while some state legislatures passed laws making it nearly impossible for black people to vote and the federal government stepped in. That's more history for you. Hope it didn't offend you too much.
1. Entering the US illegally should have severe penalties. The answer is, don't enter the US illegally.
3. Pure history is fine, its the "woke history" that I object to.
4. I've never seen the US so polarized. One example is AOC's killing HQ2 in NYC. Amazon was willing to spend $billions to turn a blighted area into a dreamscape, and create 40,000 new high paying jobs. AOC and her lazy constituents sent HQ2 to VA.
5. All's well that ends well, as long as the state legislatures keep things legal.
 
1. Open borders
2. Making DC a state
3. Making the US military more "woke" including Critical Race Theory
4. Massive spending when the US economy is recovering nicely, so massive inflation will result
5. HR-1, a recipe for one party rule
1. There are no open borders.
2. I wasn't aware taxation with representation was a radical ideal in the United States
3. We don't want anyone knowing about the racism in our past. Let's just sweep that under the rug.
4. Spending money to benefit average Americans? Just more radicalism I guess.
5. If making it easier for Americans vote results in one party rule, the problem is with your party, not mine.
1. Yes there are open borders, just look at the massive influx of illegals crossing the southern border
View attachment 487871
The blue line is Biden's open border policy.

2. DC has representation, if you don't like it don't live there, the US Constitution set up DC just fine.
3. The US is/was color-blind before Biden started his retro racist garbage
4. Runaway inflation hurts average Americans most
5. The GA & FL election reforms make it easier to vote, while reducing cheating.
1. Your graph shows apprehensions. Border ain’t open if they’re apprehending people.
2. DC has a nonvoting member of the house and nothing in the Senate. That’s not representation.
3. US history says we weren’t colorblind. Your attempt to cover up history is radical.
4. There is no runaway inflation. It’s just an excuse the right uses to avoid helping average Americans. When it was chucking tax money and lowering taxes on the wealthy, y’all didn’t worry.
5. Those reforms are mixed bags. Some things easier. Most things harder. The amount of cheating is minuscule, a few cases of cheating doesn’t justify making it harder to vote for everyone else. Funny how after Trump won y’all wanted to make it easier and then he loses y’all want to make it harder again. It’d be funny if it weren’t so obvious.
1. Apprehended and then let go, Its called "catch and release", duh.
2. The answer is to make the city part of MD, take it or leave it.
3. Colorblind is the answer, take it or leave it, otherwise "some people are more equal than others"
4. I'm not a fan of the GOP tax cuts, someone needs to pay the bills. I support most of the Biden tax increases, especially the transaction tax on financial transactions. $30T in Debt is a time-bomb that will consume the Federal Budget. I just oppose the crazy Biden spending plans.
5. Those voting reforms don't make it harder to vote. Biden's "Jim Crow" reference is senile.
1. Apprehended and kept. That’s why people are freaking about overwhelmed resources at HHS
2. That’s an answer. Not the only answer. The constitution also gives Congress the ability to create new states.
3. Rewriting history is never the answer. Teaching history does not make anyone better than anyone else.
4. Biden’s spending is extremely popular.
5. Sure. Georgia limits options localities have to engage voters and increases requirements for absentee voting. Florida is adding requirements to absentee ballots. It is restricting ballot drop boxes and limiting who can drop them off. Worse is that it changes the structure of election boards to make it easier to change the outcome after the election. HR1 doesn’t enable one party rule unless you think more people voting is bad for your party.
1. Catch and release
2. The senate's filibuster rule will not allow DC to become the 51st state. There are also constitutional challenges since DC was created by the Constitution, an Amendment would be required, which would never happen.
3. Teaching racism creating hostility and backlash is never a good idea. You reap what you sow.
4. Freebies are always popular, until inflation happens.
5. Red states have their laws, and blue states have theirs, never the twain shall meet.
1. Right, because separating parents from children was sooooo much less radical.
2. Then you have nothing to worry about and you're just fear mongering.
3. So we can't teach history because some white people might be offended at learning how previous generations have treated black people? That's pretty pathetic.
4. Then don't claim it's radical or divisive. I think your biggest fear is that Biden's policies ARE popular. That's bad news for your side.
5. Federal government has a role to play in making state elections are fair.
1. "Parents" sending kids north by themselves isn't separating them?? How many drowned on Biden's watch?
2. Correct, until the DC statehood gets a serious push, no sense whining.
3. My grandfather was a "breaker boy" who picked rocks from coal until his finger bones were showing. So pardon me if I don't care about how other people's ancestors were treated. As you said, that's ancient history.
4. 2022 and 2024 will settle a lot of arguments
5. Wrong. State legislatures set state election policies. Its in the Constitution.
1. Any kids sent north by their parents are encountered at the border and held by HHS. Trump's policy was to take parents who had their kids at the boarder and imprison the parents, keep the kids in custody. Separation. That was a radical policy, especially since they did it so badly that they happened to deport parents without kids and had no idea how to reunite them.
2. No sense in whining, then why did you bring it up?
3. Shush. We can't talk about how your grandfather was treated lest we offend someone. History is not divisive. It's truth.
4. The Republican party stands to gain if they push division and obstruction. That is, unless your side decides that it's time to go back to governing like we used to.
5. Yes, and for a while some state legislatures passed laws making it nearly impossible for black people to vote and the federal government stepped in. That's more history for you. Hope it didn't offend you too much.
1. Entering the US illegally should have severe penalties. The answer is, don't enter the US illegally.
3. Pure history is fine, its the "woke history" that I object to.
4. I've never seen the US so polarized. One example is AOC's killing HQ2 in NYC. Amazon was willing to spend $billions to turn a blighted area into a dreamscape, and create 40,000 new high paying jobs. AOC and her lazy constituents sent HQ2 to VA.
5. All's well that ends well, as long as the state legislatures keep things legal.
1. Severe penalties would be a radical idea. We don't tend to look so harshly on people seeking a better life, fleeing violence and oppression. To do so would be unAmerican given our history (or are you going to cover that up too)
3. Ignoring history doesn't change it. It's not woke history, it's history. History is not offensive.
4. AOC didn't want big government giving gifts to wealthy corporations. Being against corporate welfare for the richest and most powerful corporations is not radical.
5. Voting restrictions in the pre-civil rights era were all "legal". The federal government has a role to play. Dialing back the clock to before then is radical.
 
Which president is/was more unifying for America? Biden is dividing us along party, racial, and class lines, Trump divided us along lines generated by the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage. So which president do you feel had the US more divided?

So far, President Biden has successfully outlined a radical, socialist agenda for the next 4 years. That should trouble every freedom-loving American.


It wouldn't cost Biden anything to signal openness to Republican ideas. He could incorporate some of Sen. Tim Scott's police reform ideas for example. That might defuse some Republican resentment. (And even if it doesn't pacify Republicans, it's the right thing to do.)

Even with the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage of Trump his approval rating was about 49% before covid hit. Biden's approval with a sycophantic MSM is about 57%. We'll see where 2022 and 2024 take the US next.

the polls show that the majority of the board is awake that it was Biden.Its only long time stupid fuck resident trolls like Bodeca that put in a vote for trump.
 
Both IMO.

Biden is a lot worse both morally and politically as far as I'm concerned, however Trump was far from perfect too - at least Trump had the right ideas but it was his attitude/execution that let him down - it doesn't help when you're continually undermined by your fellow politicians and the media though.

Trump was also an ego maniac and a bit immature which doesn't help.

Biden IMO is borderline evil.

It's not just them two, though. They're just the figureheads to it all. A country is only as good as it's population and a large % of the American population (with the help of politicians, establishments, big businesses and the media) have just went full-scale retard.

Social media has a lot to answer for too.
Good answer! I should have added a third choice of "both" but my partisan leanings have me too focused on the "evil" party's faults.

I'm not sure the US population has gone retard as much as the MSM, TV, social media, education, and pols pushing the "woke" agenda have. Pete Hegseth said yesterday that Biden put in a guy named Bishop to weed the extremists (aka Trump voters) out of the US military?! Now we'll have political tests to enter the US military, and Leftist snoops watching everything we post.

You could have also added the press/social media. When you have a press working with social media to control a narrative by not allowing open dialogue and suppressing truths not inline with their narrative you will create a divide.
Between Biden and TRUMP, there is no way to deny Biden as the one promoting a greater divide. While TRUMP did go after people, he mostly targeted individuals or democrats as elected officials. Biden on the other hand not only attacks groups of people but also is imposing retaliatory measure to directly effect those people.
Make America Great Again was TRUMP's slogan and it can't be denied his general focus was on creating jobs and he was able to clearly articulate his agenda on how he was going to create jobs with his main focus on trade deals and bring back American manufacturing. Just about everything TRUMP focused on he related back to the creation of jobs. When TRUMP referenced people by social status is was almost exclusively related to the creation of jobs, so it was all inclusive.
We're in a battle for the Soul of America was Biden slogan and social programs seems to be his main focus with just about everything relating back to raising taxes. There is nothing wrong with social programs in general, but Biden's objective appears to be dividing people into groups based on victimhood, and instead of providing opportunity for advancement, Biden is devaluing achievement.
 
So you lied, when you said Pfizer took money for the development of the vaccine.

Pfizer sold the vaccine they developed thanks to Germany and Angela Merkel to the US for $1.95 b.

You're just compounding your lie by not admitting it.
Pfizer took Warp Speed money, but it wasn't for development of the vaccine, so I lied/misspoke. Happy now?
All the other vaccines were developed in record time with Warp Speed money, you're welcome.
 
Both IMO.

Biden is a lot worse both morally and politically as far as I'm concerned, however Trump was far from perfect too - at least Trump had the right ideas but it was his attitude/execution that let him down - it doesn't help when you're continually undermined by your fellow politicians and the media though.

Trump was also an ego maniac and a bit immature which doesn't help.

Biden IMO is borderline evil.

It's not just them two, though. They're just the figureheads to it all. A country is only as good as it's population and a large % of the American population (with the help of politicians, establishments, big businesses and the media) have just went full-scale retard.

Social media has a lot to answer for too.
Good answer! I should have added a third choice of "both" but my partisan leanings have me too focused on the "evil" party's faults.

I'm not sure the US population has gone retard as much as the MSM, TV, social media, education, and pols pushing the "woke" agenda have. Pete Hegseth said yesterday that Biden put in a guy named Bishop to weed the extremists (aka Trump voters) out of the US military?! Now we'll have political tests to enter the US military, and Leftist snoops watching everything we post.

You could have also added the press/social media. When you have a press working with social media to control a narrative by not allowing open dialogue and suppressing truths not inline with their narrative you will create a divide.
Between Biden and TRUMP, there is no way to deny Biden as the one promoting a greater divide. While TRUMP did go after people, he mostly targeted individuals or democrats as elected officials. Biden on the other hand not only attacks groups of people but also is imposing retaliatory measure to directly effect those people.
Make America Great Again was TRUMP's slogan and it can't be denied his general focus was on creating jobs and he was able to clearly articulate his agenda on how he was going to create jobs with his main focus on trade deals and bring back American manufacturing. Just about everything TRUMP focused on he related back to the creation of jobs. When TRUMP referenced people by social status is was almost exclusively related to the creation of jobs, so it was all inclusive.
We're in a battle for the Soul of America was Biden slogan and social programs seems to be his main focus with just about everything relating back to raising taxes. There is nothing wrong with social programs in general, but Biden's objective appears to be dividing people into groups based on victimhood, and instead of providing opportunity for advancement, Biden is devaluing achievement.
Beautifully written post.
 
Real America was united under President Obama and the Worthless Trump and his mob have tried to pull it apart.

They failed.


Real Americans are not Illegals, greedy pathetic Socialists, ghetto Negroes, White Guilt pukes and the other assorted scum that makes up the core voting block of the Democrat Party filth.
Neither are those Trump voters who follow QAnon, conspiracy theories, and think anyone who opposes them are commies and fascists.
 
Biden.

Racism alone has divided us a lot and systemic racism didn't even become a thing till he came along and keeps making it an issue. Racism won't go away till we stop talking about it but biden will not let it go. He keeps it's fires burning.

Look at what Morgan Freeman said about racism.

 
1. Open borders
2. Making DC a state
3. Making the US military more "woke" including Critical Race Theory
4. Massive spending when the US economy is recovering nicely, so massive inflation will result
5. HR-1, a recipe for one party rule
1. There are no open borders.
2. I wasn't aware taxation with representation was a radical ideal in the United States
3. We don't want anyone knowing about the racism in our past. Let's just sweep that under the rug.
4. Spending money to benefit average Americans? Just more radicalism I guess.
5. If making it easier for Americans vote results in one party rule, the problem is with your party, not mine.
1. Yes there are open borders, just look at the massive influx of illegals crossing the southern border
View attachment 487871
The blue line is Biden's open border policy.

2. DC has representation, if you don't like it don't live there, the US Constitution set up DC just fine.
3. The US is/was color-blind before Biden started his retro racist garbage
4. Runaway inflation hurts average Americans most
5. The GA & FL election reforms make it easier to vote, while reducing cheating.
1. Your graph shows apprehensions. Border ain’t open if they’re apprehending people.
2. DC has a nonvoting member of the house and nothing in the Senate. That’s not representation.
3. US history says we weren’t colorblind. Your attempt to cover up history is radical.
4. There is no runaway inflation. It’s just an excuse the right uses to avoid helping average Americans. When it was chucking tax money and lowering taxes on the wealthy, y’all didn’t worry.
5. Those reforms are mixed bags. Some things easier. Most things harder. The amount of cheating is minuscule, a few cases of cheating doesn’t justify making it harder to vote for everyone else. Funny how after Trump won y’all wanted to make it easier and then he loses y’all want to make it harder again. It’d be funny if it weren’t so obvious.
1. Apprehended and then let go, Its called "catch and release", duh.
2. The answer is to make the city part of MD, take it or leave it.
3. Colorblind is the answer, take it or leave it, otherwise "some people are more equal than others"
4. I'm not a fan of the GOP tax cuts, someone needs to pay the bills. I support most of the Biden tax increases, especially the transaction tax on financial transactions. $30T in Debt is a time-bomb that will consume the Federal Budget. I just oppose the crazy Biden spending plans.
5. Those voting reforms don't make it harder to vote. Biden's "Jim Crow" reference is senile.
1. Apprehended and kept. That’s why people are freaking about overwhelmed resources at HHS
2. That’s an answer. Not the only answer. The constitution also gives Congress the ability to create new states.
3. Rewriting history is never the answer. Teaching history does not make anyone better than anyone else.
4. Biden’s spending is extremely popular.
5. Sure. Georgia limits options localities have to engage voters and increases requirements for absentee voting. Florida is adding requirements to absentee ballots. It is restricting ballot drop boxes and limiting who can drop them off. Worse is that it changes the structure of election boards to make it easier to change the outcome after the election. HR1 doesn’t enable one party rule unless you think more people voting is bad for your party.
1. Catch and release
2. The senate's filibuster rule will not allow DC to become the 51st state. There are also constitutional challenges since DC was created by the Constitution, an Amendment would be required, which would never happen.
3. Teaching racism creating hostility and backlash is never a good idea. You reap what you sow.
4. Freebies are always popular, until inflation happens.
5. Red states have their laws, and blue states have theirs, never the twain shall meet.
1. Right, because separating parents from children was sooooo much less radical.
2. Then you have nothing to worry about and you're just fear mongering.
3. So we can't teach history because some white people might be offended at learning how previous generations have treated black people? That's pretty pathetic.
4. Then don't claim it's radical or divisive. I think your biggest fear is that Biden's policies ARE popular. That's bad news for your side.
5. Federal government has a role to play in making state elections are fair.
1. "Parents" sending kids north by themselves isn't separating them?? How many drowned on Biden's watch?
2. Correct, until the DC statehood gets a serious push, no sense whining.
3. My grandfather was a "breaker boy" who picked rocks from coal until his finger bones were showing. So pardon me if I don't care about how other people's ancestors were treated. As you said, that's ancient history.
4. 2022 and 2024 will settle a lot of arguments
5. Wrong. State legislatures set state election policies. Its in the Constitution.
1. Any kids sent north by their parents are encountered at the border and held by HHS. Trump's policy was to take parents who had their kids at the boarder and imprison the parents, keep the kids in custody. Separation. That was a radical policy, especially since they did it so badly that they happened to deport parents without kids and had no idea how to reunite them.
2. No sense in whining, then why did you bring it up?
3. Shush. We can't talk about how your grandfather was treated lest we offend someone. History is not divisive. It's truth.
4. The Republican party stands to gain if they push division and obstruction. That is, unless your side decides that it's time to go back to governing like we used to.
5. Yes, and for a while some state legislatures passed laws making it nearly impossible for black people to vote and the federal government stepped in. That's more history for you. Hope it didn't offend you too much.
1. Entering the US illegally should have severe penalties. The answer is, don't enter the US illegally.
3. Pure history is fine, its the "woke history" that I object to.
4. I've never seen the US so polarized. One example is AOC's killing HQ2 in NYC. Amazon was willing to spend $billions to turn a blighted area into a dreamscape, and create 40,000 new high paying jobs. AOC and her lazy constituents sent HQ2 to VA.
5. All's well that ends well, as long as the state legislatures keep things legal.
1. Severe penalties would be a radical idea. We don't tend to look so harshly on people seeking a better life, fleeing violence and oppression. To do so would be unAmerican given our history (or are you going to cover that up too)
3. Ignoring history doesn't change it. It's not woke history, it's history. History is not offensive.
4. AOC didn't want big government giving gifts to wealthy corporations. Being against corporate welfare for the richest and most powerful corporations is not radical.
5. Voting restrictions in the pre-civil rights era were all "legal". The federal government has a role to play. Dialing back the clock to before then is radical.
1. The US has immigration laws, we have a sovereign right to defend our borders and only allow legal immigration. Illegals, including terrorists and drug cartel traffickers need severe penalties. If you want to emigrate to the US, do it legally or face the consequences.
3. There is "woke history" and "real history". That's the real issue, what flavor of history to teach.
4. OMG, tell me you're that stupid. Giving tax breaks to corporations who will spend $billions to create good US jobs is NOT "corporate welfare", its "capitalism". The fact that Amazon pays no IRS income tax is "corporate welfare". If you and AOC don't want to work, stay on your porch.
5. We're in 2021, not the 1960's, stop trying to play outdated "race cards".
 
1. Open borders
2. Making DC a state
3. Making the US military more "woke" including Critical Race Theory
4. Massive spending when the US economy is recovering nicely, so massive inflation will result
5. HR-1, a recipe for one party rule
1. There are no open borders.
2. I wasn't aware taxation with representation was a radical ideal in the United States
3. We don't want anyone knowing about the racism in our past. Let's just sweep that under the rug.
4. Spending money to benefit average Americans? Just more radicalism I guess.
5. If making it easier for Americans vote results in one party rule, the problem is with your party, not mine.
1. Yes there are open borders, just look at the massive influx of illegals crossing the southern border
View attachment 487871
The blue line is Biden's open border policy.

2. DC has representation, if you don't like it don't live there, the US Constitution set up DC just fine.
3. The US is/was color-blind before Biden started his retro racist garbage
4. Runaway inflation hurts average Americans most
5. The GA & FL election reforms make it easier to vote, while reducing cheating.
1. Your graph shows apprehensions. Border ain’t open if they’re apprehending people.
2. DC has a nonvoting member of the house and nothing in the Senate. That’s not representation.
3. US history says we weren’t colorblind. Your attempt to cover up history is radical.
4. There is no runaway inflation. It’s just an excuse the right uses to avoid helping average Americans. When it was chucking tax money and lowering taxes on the wealthy, y’all didn’t worry.
5. Those reforms are mixed bags. Some things easier. Most things harder. The amount of cheating is minuscule, a few cases of cheating doesn’t justify making it harder to vote for everyone else. Funny how after Trump won y’all wanted to make it easier and then he loses y’all want to make it harder again. It’d be funny if it weren’t so obvious.
1. Apprehended and then let go, Its called "catch and release", duh.
2. The answer is to make the city part of MD, take it or leave it.
3. Colorblind is the answer, take it or leave it, otherwise "some people are more equal than others"
4. I'm not a fan of the GOP tax cuts, someone needs to pay the bills. I support most of the Biden tax increases, especially the transaction tax on financial transactions. $30T in Debt is a time-bomb that will consume the Federal Budget. I just oppose the crazy Biden spending plans.
5. Those voting reforms don't make it harder to vote. Biden's "Jim Crow" reference is senile.
1. Apprehended and kept. That’s why people are freaking about overwhelmed resources at HHS
2. That’s an answer. Not the only answer. The constitution also gives Congress the ability to create new states.
3. Rewriting history is never the answer. Teaching history does not make anyone better than anyone else.
4. Biden’s spending is extremely popular.
5. Sure. Georgia limits options localities have to engage voters and increases requirements for absentee voting. Florida is adding requirements to absentee ballots. It is restricting ballot drop boxes and limiting who can drop them off. Worse is that it changes the structure of election boards to make it easier to change the outcome after the election. HR1 doesn’t enable one party rule unless you think more people voting is bad for your party.
1. Catch and release
2. The senate's filibuster rule will not allow DC to become the 51st state. There are also constitutional challenges since DC was created by the Constitution, an Amendment would be required, which would never happen.
3. Teaching racism creating hostility and backlash is never a good idea. You reap what you sow.
4. Freebies are always popular, until inflation happens.
5. Red states have their laws, and blue states have theirs, never the twain shall meet.
1. Right, because separating parents from children was sooooo much less radical.
2. Then you have nothing to worry about and you're just fear mongering.
3. So we can't teach history because some white people might be offended at learning how previous generations have treated black people? That's pretty pathetic.
4. Then don't claim it's radical or divisive. I think your biggest fear is that Biden's policies ARE popular. That's bad news for your side.
5. Federal government has a role to play in making state elections are fair.
1. "Parents" sending kids north by themselves isn't separating them?? How many drowned on Biden's watch?
2. Correct, until the DC statehood gets a serious push, no sense whining.
3. My grandfather was a "breaker boy" who picked rocks from coal until his finger bones were showing. So pardon me if I don't care about how other people's ancestors were treated. As you said, that's ancient history.
4. 2022 and 2024 will settle a lot of arguments
5. Wrong. State legislatures set state election policies. Its in the Constitution.
1. Any kids sent north by their parents are encountered at the border and held by HHS. Trump's policy was to take parents who had their kids at the boarder and imprison the parents, keep the kids in custody. Separation. That was a radical policy, especially since they did it so badly that they happened to deport parents without kids and had no idea how to reunite them.
2. No sense in whining, then why did you bring it up?
3. Shush. We can't talk about how your grandfather was treated lest we offend someone. History is not divisive. It's truth.
4. The Republican party stands to gain if they push division and obstruction. That is, unless your side decides that it's time to go back to governing like we used to.
5. Yes, and for a while some state legislatures passed laws making it nearly impossible for black people to vote and the federal government stepped in. That's more history for you. Hope it didn't offend you too much.
1. Entering the US illegally should have severe penalties. The answer is, don't enter the US illegally.
3. Pure history is fine, its the "woke history" that I object to.
4. I've never seen the US so polarized. One example is AOC's killing HQ2 in NYC. Amazon was willing to spend $billions to turn a blighted area into a dreamscape, and create 40,000 new high paying jobs. AOC and her lazy constituents sent HQ2 to VA.
5. All's well that ends well, as long as the state legislatures keep things legal.
1. Severe penalties would be a radical idea. We don't tend to look so harshly on people seeking a better life, fleeing violence and oppression. To do so would be unAmerican given our history (or are you going to cover that up too)
3. Ignoring history doesn't change it. It's not woke history, it's history. History is not offensive.
4. AOC didn't want big government giving gifts to wealthy corporations. Being against corporate welfare for the richest and most powerful corporations is not radical.
5. Voting restrictions in the pre-civil rights era were all "legal". The federal government has a role to play. Dialing back the clock to before then is radical.
1. The US has immigration laws, we have a sovereign right to defend our borders and only allow legal immigration. Illegals, including terrorists and drug cartel traffickers need severe penalties. If you want to emigrate to the US, do it legally or face the consequences.
3. There is "woke history" and "real history". That's the real issue, what flavor of history to teach.
4. OMG, tell me you're that stupid. Giving tax breaks to corporations who will spend $billions to create good US jobs is NOT "corporate welfare", its "capitalism". The fact that Amazon pays no IRS income tax is "corporate welfare". If you and AOC don't want to work, stay on your porch.
5. We're in 2021, not the 1960's, stop trying to play outdated "race cards".
1. Yeah, and the legal routes towards immigration keep being shut down by Republicans. It's not about immigration, we both know that. As Trump said, he doesn't want people from shitholes.
3. History is not colorblind. History has a lot to say about how color was treated. You don't want any history taught that, how did you put it, offend you.
4. Yes, giving tax breaks to corporations is corporate welfare. Maybe it's radical of me to think that the tax laws should apply equally to everyone. I pay my taxes, so should Amazon.
5. I wish 2021 was different than 1960, but your playbook hasn't really changed.
 
1. Open borders
2. Making DC a state
3. Making the US military more "woke" including Critical Race Theory
4. Massive spending when the US economy is recovering nicely, so massive inflation will result
5. HR-1, a recipe for one party rule
1. There are no open borders.
2. I wasn't aware taxation with representation was a radical ideal in the United States
3. We don't want anyone knowing about the racism in our past. Let's just sweep that under the rug.
4. Spending money to benefit average Americans? Just more radicalism I guess.
5. If making it easier for Americans vote results in one party rule, the problem is with your party, not mine.
1. Yes there are open borders, just look at the massive influx of illegals crossing the southern border
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The blue line is Biden's open border policy.

2. DC has representation, if you don't like it don't live there, the US Constitution set up DC just fine.
3. The US is/was color-blind before Biden started his retro racist garbage
4. Runaway inflation hurts average Americans most
5. The GA & FL election reforms make it easier to vote, while reducing cheating.
1. Your graph shows apprehensions. Border ain’t open if they’re apprehending people.
2. DC has a nonvoting member of the house and nothing in the Senate. That’s not representation.
3. US history says we weren’t colorblind. Your attempt to cover up history is radical.
4. There is no runaway inflation. It’s just an excuse the right uses to avoid helping average Americans. When it was chucking tax money and lowering taxes on the wealthy, y’all didn’t worry.
5. Those reforms are mixed bags. Some things easier. Most things harder. The amount of cheating is minuscule, a few cases of cheating doesn’t justify making it harder to vote for everyone else. Funny how after Trump won y’all wanted to make it easier and then he loses y’all want to make it harder again. It’d be funny if it weren’t so obvious.
1. Apprehended and then let go, Its called "catch and release", duh.
2. The answer is to make the city part of MD, take it or leave it.
3. Colorblind is the answer, take it or leave it, otherwise "some people are more equal than others"
4. I'm not a fan of the GOP tax cuts, someone needs to pay the bills. I support most of the Biden tax increases, especially the transaction tax on financial transactions. $30T in Debt is a time-bomb that will consume the Federal Budget. I just oppose the crazy Biden spending plans.
5. Those voting reforms don't make it harder to vote. Biden's "Jim Crow" reference is senile.
1. Apprehended and kept. That’s why people are freaking about overwhelmed resources at HHS
2. That’s an answer. Not the only answer. The constitution also gives Congress the ability to create new states.
3. Rewriting history is never the answer. Teaching history does not make anyone better than anyone else.
4. Biden’s spending is extremely popular.
5. Sure. Georgia limits options localities have to engage voters and increases requirements for absentee voting. Florida is adding requirements to absentee ballots. It is restricting ballot drop boxes and limiting who can drop them off. Worse is that it changes the structure of election boards to make it easier to change the outcome after the election. HR1 doesn’t enable one party rule unless you think more people voting is bad for your party.
1. Catch and release
2. The senate's filibuster rule will not allow DC to become the 51st state. There are also constitutional challenges since DC was created by the Constitution, an Amendment would be required, which would never happen.
3. Teaching racism creating hostility and backlash is never a good idea. You reap what you sow.
4. Freebies are always popular, until inflation happens.
5. Red states have their laws, and blue states have theirs, never the twain shall meet.
1. Right, because separating parents from children was sooooo much less radical.
2. Then you have nothing to worry about and you're just fear mongering.
3. So we can't teach history because some white people might be offended at learning how previous generations have treated black people? That's pretty pathetic.
4. Then don't claim it's radical or divisive. I think your biggest fear is that Biden's policies ARE popular. That's bad news for your side.
5. Federal government has a role to play in making state elections are fair.
1. "Parents" sending kids north by themselves isn't separating them?? How many drowned on Biden's watch?
2. Correct, until the DC statehood gets a serious push, no sense whining.
3. My grandfather was a "breaker boy" who picked rocks from coal until his finger bones were showing. So pardon me if I don't care about how other people's ancestors were treated. As you said, that's ancient history.
4. 2022 and 2024 will settle a lot of arguments
5. Wrong. State legislatures set state election policies. Its in the Constitution.
1. Any kids sent north by their parents are encountered at the border and held by HHS. Trump's policy was to take parents who had their kids at the boarder and imprison the parents, keep the kids in custody. Separation. That was a radical policy, especially since they did it so badly that they happened to deport parents without kids and had no idea how to reunite them.
2. No sense in whining, then why did you bring it up?
3. Shush. We can't talk about how your grandfather was treated lest we offend someone. History is not divisive. It's truth.
4. The Republican party stands to gain if they push division and obstruction. That is, unless your side decides that it's time to go back to governing like we used to.
5. Yes, and for a while some state legislatures passed laws making it nearly impossible for black people to vote and the federal government stepped in. That's more history for you. Hope it didn't offend you too much.
1. Entering the US illegally should have severe penalties. The answer is, don't enter the US illegally.
3. Pure history is fine, its the "woke history" that I object to.
4. I've never seen the US so polarized. One example is AOC's killing HQ2 in NYC. Amazon was willing to spend $billions to turn a blighted area into a dreamscape, and create 40,000 new high paying jobs. AOC and her lazy constituents sent HQ2 to VA.
5. All's well that ends well, as long as the state legislatures keep things legal.
1. Severe penalties would be a radical idea. We don't tend to look so harshly on people seeking a better life, fleeing violence and oppression. To do so would be unAmerican given our history (or are you going to cover that up too)
3. Ignoring history doesn't change it. It's not woke history, it's history. History is not offensive.
4. AOC didn't want big government giving gifts to wealthy corporations. Being against corporate welfare for the richest and most powerful corporations is not radical.
5. Voting restrictions in the pre-civil rights era were all "legal". The federal government has a role to play. Dialing back the clock to before then is radical.
1. The US has immigration laws, we have a sovereign right to defend our borders and only allow legal immigration. Illegals, including terrorists and drug cartel traffickers need severe penalties. If you want to emigrate to the US, do it legally or face the consequences.
3. There is "woke history" and "real history". That's the real issue, what flavor of history to teach.
4. OMG, tell me you're that stupid. Giving tax breaks to corporations who will spend $billions to create good US jobs is NOT "corporate welfare", its "capitalism". The fact that Amazon pays no IRS income tax is "corporate welfare". If you and AOC don't want to work, stay on your porch.
5. We're in 2021, not the 1960's, stop trying to play outdated "race cards".
1. Yeah, and the legal routes towards immigration keep being shut down by Republicans. It's not about immigration, we both know that. As Trump said, he doesn't want people from shitholes.
3. History is not colorblind. History has a lot to say about how color was treated. You don't want any history taught that, how did you put it, offend you.
4. Yes, giving tax breaks to corporations is corporate welfare. Maybe it's radical of me to think that the tax laws should apply equally to everyone. I pay my taxes, so should Amazon.
5. I wish 2021 was different than 1960, but your playbook hasn't really changed.
1. Exactly right, we want "merit based" immigration, not MS-13.
3. I want accurate "color blind" history taught, not "woke history" like "Critical Race Theory".
4. We agree, Amazon should pay taxes. That said, Amazon has every right to negotiate tax breaks to create jobs and build new facilities, that is NOT corporate welfare. That AOC chased HQ2 to VA shows how lazy and stupid she is, even Cuomo said HQ2 was a great deal for NY.
5. You can bitch about the new election laws in GA, FL, TX, etc., but if the courts uphold them they are legal.
 
Neither Trump nor Biden hold a candle to the division GW Bush and his neocons caused with their decision that the US needed to invest the lives of thousands and a few trillion bucks to create an Islamic Republic in Iraq. I'd rate Trump and Biden pretty similar in that most of the division concerns whether either is fit for office with one being delusional and the other appearing to have the onset of Alzheimer's. I'd put Obama 2nd to Bush, many folks had a problem handling a black president.
 
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Who divided America more, Trump or Biden?​



The answer is simple: Biden.

TRUMP'S AMERICA is the America our Founders would have recognized, Abraham Lincoln would have recognized, FDR and Truman would recognize, that Reagan would recognize, that my parents would recognize and that 90% of this country prefers and recognizes! In it, America is great, America is first and America wins.

But BIDEN'S AMERICA is an America that has never existed and doesn't exist and never will. None of our previous generations would recognize nor want it. It reflects some dream fantasy ideal of a small group of people closer to an M. C. Escher painting where down is up, left is right, and strange creatures lurk in every shadow.


I sympathize with those who are in the minority, whose life didn't go as wanted, whose distant relatives had a difficult life, or feel somehow America isn't perfect, but though you will not want to hear it,

  • police are not the problem in this country, criminals and those who refuse to accept their authority are.
  • cages are not the problem in this country, illegal aliens who come here trespassing violating our immigration laws are.
  • tolerance and inclusivity is not the problem with this country, but freaks and weirdos who want elevated above others with special treatment are.
  • and republican voters who uphold honest elections are not the problem with this country, but those whom would cheat and rig elections to ensure a predetermined outcome are.
 
Which president is/was more unifying for America? Biden is dividing us along party, racial, and class lines, Trump divided us along lines generated by the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage. So which president do you feel had the US more divided?

So far, President Biden has successfully outlined a radical, socialist agenda for the next 4 years. That should trouble every freedom-loving American.


It wouldn't cost Biden anything to signal openness to Republican ideas. He could incorporate some of Sen. Tim Scott's police reform ideas for example. That might defuse some Republican resentment. (And even if it doesn't pacify Republicans, it's the right thing to do.)

Even with the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage of Trump his approval rating was about 49% before covid hit. Biden's approval with a sycophantic MSM is about 57%. We'll see where 2022 and 2024 take the US next.

22 for Biden verses 8 for Trump?

This poll is hilarious because it's not even remotely grounded in objective reality.

Trump spent almost every single day of his presidency attacking someone. Sometimes it was Democrats. But just as often it could be a former ally or one of his previous appointments on whom he once lavishly praised but who he later on insulted, not just in professional terms, but with personal insults. For example, remember when Trump referred to former Secretary of State Tillerson as dumb as a rock and lazy as hell? This was not an isolated event. In fact, it was a common event, month after month and year after year.

On the other hand, Biden has been in public life since the 1970s, and anyone would be hard pressed to find much, if anything, that was more than just professionally critical of anyone else.
 
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Which president is/was more unifying for America? Biden is dividing us along party, racial, and class lines, Trump divided us along lines generated by the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage. So which president do you feel had the US more divided?

So far, President Biden has successfully outlined a radical, socialist agenda for the next 4 years. That should trouble every freedom-loving American.


It wouldn't cost Biden anything to signal openness to Republican ideas. He could incorporate some of Sen. Tim Scott's police reform ideas for example. That might defuse some Republican resentment. (And even if it doesn't pacify Republicans, it's the right thing to do.)

Even with the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage of Trump his approval rating was about 49% before covid hit. Biden's approval with a sycophantic MSM is about 57%. We'll see where 2022 and 2024 take the US next.

22 for Biden verses 8 for Trump?

This poll is hilarious because it's not even remotely grounded in objective reality.

Trump spent almost every single day of his presidency attacking someone. Sometimes it was Democrats. But just as often it could be a former ally or one of his previous appointments who he once lavishly praised but who he later on insulted, not just in professional terms, but with personal insults. For example, remember when Trump referred to former Secretary of State Tillerson as dumb as a rock and lazy as hell? This was not an isolated event. In fact, it was a common event, month after month and year after year.

On the other hand, Biden has been in public life since the 1970s, and anyone would be hard pressed to find much, if anything, that was more than just professionally critical of anyone else.
No one liked Trump's management style, he was very abrasive, but that's how many billionaires micro-manage their empires. The Trump Organization | Luxury Real Estate Portfolio

The poll couldn't be any simpler, which president divides us more than unites us.
Please read post #66 for a well written explanation of this thread and poll.
 
Which president is/was more unifying for America? Biden is dividing us along party, racial, and class lines, Trump divided us along lines generated by the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage. So which president do you feel had the US more divided?

So far, President Biden has successfully outlined a radical, socialist agenda for the next 4 years. That should trouble every freedom-loving American.


It wouldn't cost Biden anything to signal openness to Republican ideas. He could incorporate some of Sen. Tim Scott's police reform ideas for example. That might defuse some Republican resentment. (And even if it doesn't pacify Republicans, it's the right thing to do.)

Even with the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage of Trump his approval rating was about 49% before covid hit. Biden's approval with a sycophantic MSM is about 57%. We'll see where 2022 and 2024 take the US next.

22 for Biden verses 8 for Trump?

This poll is hilarious because it's not even remotely grounded in objective reality.

Trump spent almost every single day of his presidency attacking someone. Sometimes it was Democrats. But just as often it could be a former ally or one of his previous appointments who he once lavishly praised but who he later on insulted, not just in professional terms, but with personal insults. For example, remember when Trump referred to former Secretary of State Tillerson as dumb as a rock and lazy as hell? This was not an isolated event. In fact, it was a common event, month after month and year after year.

On the other hand, Biden has been in public life since the 1970s, and anyone would be hard pressed to find much, if anything, that was more than just professionally critical of anyone else.
No one liked Trump's management style, he was very abrasive, but that's how many billionaires micro-manage their empires. The Trump Organization | Luxury Real Estate Portfolio

The poll couldn't be any simpler, which president divides us more than unites us.
Please read post #66 for a well written explanation of this thread and poll.
Trump wasn't just abusive to individuals, he also delighted in pitting one group against another. In that sense, the Jan 6 insurrection is the quintessential example of Trump's management style.
 
Which president is/was more unifying for America? Biden is dividing us along party, racial, and class lines, Trump divided us along lines generated by the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage. So which president do you feel had the US more divided?

So far, President Biden has successfully outlined a radical, socialist agenda for the next 4 years. That should trouble every freedom-loving American.


It wouldn't cost Biden anything to signal openness to Republican ideas. He could incorporate some of Sen. Tim Scott's police reform ideas for example. That might defuse some Republican resentment. (And even if it doesn't pacify Republicans, it's the right thing to do.)

Even with the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage of Trump his approval rating was about 49% before covid hit. Biden's approval with a sycophantic MSM is about 57%. We'll see where 2022 and 2024 take the US next.

22 for Biden verses 8 for Trump?

This poll is hilarious because it's not even remotely grounded in objective reality.

Trump spent almost every single day of his presidency attacking someone. Sometimes it was Democrats. But just as often it could be a former ally or one of his previous appointments who he once lavishly praised but who he later on insulted, not just in professional terms, but with personal insults. For example, remember when Trump referred to former Secretary of State Tillerson as dumb as a rock and lazy as hell? This was not an isolated event. In fact, it was a common event, month after month and year after year.

On the other hand, Biden has been in public life since the 1970s, and anyone would be hard pressed to find much, if anything, that was more than just professionally critical of anyone else.
No one liked Trump's management style, he was very abrasive, but that's how many billionaires micro-manage their empires. The Trump Organization | Luxury Real Estate Portfolio

The poll couldn't be any simpler, which president divides us more than unites us.
Please read post #66 for a well written explanation of this thread and poll.
Trump wasn't just abusive to individuals, he also delighted in pitting one group against another. In that sense, the Jan 6 insurrection is the quintessential example of Trump's management style.
That's why I'm not voting for Trump in the GOP primaries.
That said, I'd vote for Trump in the general against Joe or Kamala.

p.s. 1/6 wasn't an "insurrection", if it was they would have had guns instead of flags.
It was a "protest" against voter fraud, GA, TX, and FL are taking needed action to insure vote integrity.
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Which president is/was more unifying for America? Biden is dividing us along party, racial, and class lines, Trump divided us along lines generated by the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage. So which president do you feel had the US more divided?

So far, President Biden has successfully outlined a radical, socialist agenda for the next 4 years. That should trouble every freedom-loving American.


It wouldn't cost Biden anything to signal openness to Republican ideas. He could incorporate some of Sen. Tim Scott's police reform ideas for example. That might defuse some Republican resentment. (And even if it doesn't pacify Republicans, it's the right thing to do.)

Even with the MSM's constant 95% negative coverage of Trump his approval rating was about 49% before covid hit. Biden's approval with a sycophantic MSM is about 57%. We'll see where 2022 and 2024 take the US next.

22 for Biden verses 8 for Trump?

This poll is hilarious because it's not even remotely grounded in objective reality.

Trump spent almost every single day of his presidency attacking someone. Sometimes it was Democrats. But just as often it could be a former ally or one of his previous appointments who he once lavishly praised but who he later on insulted, not just in professional terms, but with personal insults. For example, remember when Trump referred to former Secretary of State Tillerson as dumb as a rock and lazy as hell? This was not an isolated event. In fact, it was a common event, month after month and year after year.

On the other hand, Biden has been in public life since the 1970s, and anyone would be hard pressed to find much, if anything, that was more than just professionally critical of anyone else.
No one liked Trump's management style, he was very abrasive, but that's how many billionaires micro-manage their empires. The Trump Organization | Luxury Real Estate Portfolio

The poll couldn't be any simpler, which president divides us more than unites us.
Please read post #66 for a well written explanation of this thread and poll.
Trump wasn't just abusive to individuals, he also delighted in pitting one group against another. In that sense, the Jan 6 insurrection is the quintessential example of Trump's management style.
That's why I'm not voting for Trump in the GOP primaries.
That said, I'd vote for Trump in the general against Joe or Kamala.

p.s. 1/6 wasn't an "insurrection", if it was they would have had guns instead of flags.
It was a "protest" against voter fraud, GA, TX, and FL are taking needed action to insure vote integrity.
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You can call it a salute to Democracy if you want. You can call it a parade if that will make you feel better. But it was an insurrection, pure and simple, and there's 15,000 hours of video of what unfolded on that day to prove that fact, and no amount of wishful conservative revisionist history is going to alter the facts. Deal with it!

Here's a little fun fact: During the Civil War, approximately 600,000 Americans were killed when our population was only 31,443,322. However, during all those years of the Civil War, the Capitol was never breached by someone carrying the Confederate Flag...until Jan 6, 2021, that is.
 

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