Who Needs Planned Parenthood??



The fact remains that PP is a private organization free to support those political organizations that support them just as every other corporation or lobbying group does. No federal money is used for that purpose.



"No federal money is used for that purpose."

False.

Research the term 'fungible.'

Research accounting practices and Hyde amendment compliance.
Wingnuts must be getting pretty desperate if they have to claim "racism" in their attacks on PP.


Seems you require a regular upbraiding...

You are unaware that the origination of Planned Parenthood was to diminish the number blacks...

No. It wasn't.

"It was in 1939 that Sanger's larger vision for dealing with the reproductive practices of black Americans emerged. After the January 1939 merger of her Clinical Research Bureau and the ABCL to form the Birth Control Federation of America, Dr. Clarence J. Gamble was selected to become the BCFA regional director for the South. Dr. Gamble, of the soap-manufacturing Procter and Gamble company, was no newcomer to Sanger's organization. He had previously served as director at large to the predecessor ABCL.


Gamble wrote a memorandum in November 1939 entitled “Suggestions for the Negro Project,” in which he recognized that “black leaders might regard birth control as an extermination plot.” He suggested black leaders be placed in positions where it would appear they were in charge.36 Yet Sanger's reply reflects Gamble's ambivalence about having blacks in authoritative positions:

I note that you doubt it worthwhile to employ a full-time Negro physician. It seems to me from my experience ... that, while the colored Negroes have great respect for white doctors, they can get closer to their own members and more or less lay their cards on the table, which means their ignorance, superstitions and doubts. They do not do this with white people and if we can train the Negro doctor at the clinic, he can go among them with enthusiasm and ... knowledge, which ... will have far-reaching results among the colored people.37

Sanger knew blacks were a religious people—and how useful ministers would be to her project. She wrote in the same letter:

The minister's work is also important and he should be trained, perhaps by the Federation as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members [emphasis added]."
The Negro Project and Margaret Sanger


MSPP / Newsletter / Newsletter #28 (Fall 2001)

Arguments persist about whether or not the Negro Project was purely a racist endeavor (search for "Sanger" "Negro Project" and "racism" on the Internet and be prepared for the onslaught). Certainly the patriarchal racism of the time that guided many of the social policies in Washington and the practices of philanthropic and charitable organizations working to "lift up" African-Americans, dictated both the Federation's and Sanger's approach to blacks and birth control. The public rationale for the Project was rooted in economics, tax-payer burden, and the social threats posed by what was perceived to be an exploding black underclass, rather than the health and sexual liberation of black women (though it should be notes that the birth control movement largely ignored the issue of women's —black or white— sexual autonomy in the interwar years). And there is no doubt that a good number of medical professionals involved in the birth control movement exhibited strong racist sentiments, some of them arguing for and even carrying out compulsory sterilization on black women considered to be of low intelligence and therefore not capable of choosing not to control their fertility, as well as on those deemed morally or behaviorally deviant. But there is no evidence that Sanger or even the Federation coerced or intended to coerce black women into using birth control. The fundamental belief, underscored at every meeting, mentioned in much of the behind-the-scenes correspondence, and evident in all the printed material put out by the Division of Negro Service, was that uncontrolled fertility presented the greatest burden to the poor, and Southern blacks were among the poorest Americans. In fact, the Negro Project did not differ very much from the earlier birth control campaigns in the rural South designed to test simpler methods on poor, uneducated and mostly white agricultural communities. Following these other efforts in the South, it would have been more racist, in Sanger's mind, to ignore African-Americans in the South than to fail at trying to raise the health and economic standards of their communities.
 
The fact remains.


The fact remains that PP is a private organization free to support those political organizations that support them just as every other corporation or lobbying group does. No federal money is used for that purpose.



"No federal money is used for that purpose."

False.

Research the term 'fungible.'

Research accounting practices and Hyde amendment compliance.
Wingnuts must be getting pretty desperate if they have to claim "racism" in their attacks on PP.


Seems you require a regular upbraiding...

You are unaware that the origination of Planned Parenthood was to diminish the number blacks...

"It was in 1939 that Sanger's larger vision for dealing with the reproductive practices of black Americans emerged. After the January 1939 merger of her Clinical Research Bureau and the ABCL to form the Birth Control Federation of America, Dr. Clarence J. Gamble was selected to become the BCFA regional director for the South. Dr. Gamble, of the soap-manufacturing Procter and Gamble company, was no newcomer to Sanger's organization. He had previously served as director at large to the predecessor ABCL.


Gamble wrote a memorandum in November 1939 entitled “Suggestions for the Negro Project,” in which he recognized that “black leaders might regard birth control as an extermination plot.” He suggested black leaders be placed in positions where it would appear they were in charge.36 Yet Sanger's reply reflects Gamble's ambivalence about having blacks in authoritative positions:

I note that you doubt it worthwhile to employ a full-time Negro physician. It seems to me from my experience ... that, while the colored Negroes have great respect for white doctors, they can get closer to their own members and more or less lay their cards on the table, which means their ignorance, superstitions and doubts. They do not do this with white people and if we can train the Negro doctor at the clinic, he can go among them with enthusiasm and ... knowledge, which ... will have far-reaching results among the colored people.37

Sanger knew blacks were a religious people—and how useful ministers would be to her project. She wrote in the same letter:

The minister's work is also important and he should be trained, perhaps by the Federation as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members [emphasis added]."
The Negro Project and Margaret Sanger


Margaret Sanger's American Birth Control League (ABCL), which along with other groups eventually became known as Planned Parenthood.

PC you are a dishonest fucktard and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Less than 4% of PP clinics that offer abortive services are located in neighborhoods where more than 1/3 of the population are black and for your information Margaret Sanger was vehemently anti-abortion.





1. Your vulgarity bespeaks an inadequate intellect.

2. "Sanger’s legacy today, which is being carried on by Planned Parenthood, includes the devastating impact of “birth control” on the black community. Planned Parenthood has continued the practice of targeting the black population. Over 30% of all abortions are performed on black women and close to 40% of black pregnancies end in abortion."
Margaret Sanger Quotes, History, and Biography - Research, Statistics, and History on Abortion & Human Rights

3. "The modern day abortion rights movement began as the American Birth Control League in 1921. Among its founding board members were Margaret Sanger, Lothrup Stoddard, and C. C. Little. The latter two people were known for their racist views, but Margaret Sanger continually shows up in the company of other racists. In fact, she was the guest speaker at a Ku Klux Klan rally in Silverlake, N. J. in 1926.[1] Not only did she not disassociate herself from these racist views, her own writings leave little doubt as to her sympathies. In implementing a plan called the "Negro Project," that was designed to sterilize Blacks and reduce the number of Black children being born in the south, Sanger wrote:

"[We propose to] hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. And we do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."
Abortion - A Liberal Cause? (Margaret Sanger and Eugenics)

4. " Margaret Sanger and her organization began to be primary sponsors of abortion rights during her lifetime. But because she had associated herself with Adolph Hitler, praising him for his racial politics of eugenics, she changed the name of American Birth Control League to Planned Parenthood during WWII in order to disguise her racist past."
Linda Perlman Gordon,
"Woman's Body, Woman's Right: Birth Control In America,"' p. 347.
 
After all this, encouraging news surfaces.

Planned Parenthood’s standing in the public eye has not been diminished despite months of concerted attacks by Republicans, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News Poll has found.

The poll found that the women’s health organization is viewed favorably by 47% of Americans and unfavorably by 31% in the Sept. 20-24 survey. That is about the same — even a tad better — than the 45%-30% split found in a Journal/NBC poll in July.

At a time when Republicans have been calling for cutting off federal funding to Planned Parenthood and threatening to shut down the government to do so, the new poll found that a strong majority of Americans — 61% — oppose eliminating funding, while 35% support a funding cut off.
The issue cuts along party lines: Among Republicans, 55% support a funding cut-off. By contrast, only 19% of Democrats and 34% of independents favor stripping the group’s funding.

But even among people who want to cut off funding to Planned Parenthood, only 27% favored forcing a government shutdown to accomplish the goal.

“If this happens, this is going to be very difficult for the American public to understand,” said GOP pollster Bill McInturff, who helped conduct the survey

Planned Parenthood Emerges Unscathed From GOP Attacks – WSJ/NBC Poll
 
The fact remains that PP is a private organization free to support those political organizations that support them just as every other corporation or lobbying group does. No federal money is used for that purpose.



"No federal money is used for that purpose."

False.

Research the term 'fungible.'

Research accounting practices and Hyde amendment compliance.
Wingnuts must be getting pretty desperate if they have to claim "racism" in their attacks on PP.


Seems you require a regular upbraiding...

You are unaware that the origination of Planned Parenthood was to diminish the number blacks...

"It was in 1939 that Sanger's larger vision for dealing with the reproductive practices of black Americans emerged. After the January 1939 merger of her Clinical Research Bureau and the ABCL to form the Birth Control Federation of America, Dr. Clarence J. Gamble was selected to become the BCFA regional director for the South. Dr. Gamble, of the soap-manufacturing Procter and Gamble company, was no newcomer to Sanger's organization. He had previously served as director at large to the predecessor ABCL.


Gamble wrote a memorandum in November 1939 entitled “Suggestions for the Negro Project,” in which he recognized that “black leaders might regard birth control as an extermination plot.” He suggested black leaders be placed in positions where it would appear they were in charge.36 Yet Sanger's reply reflects Gamble's ambivalence about having blacks in authoritative positions:

I note that you doubt it worthwhile to employ a full-time Negro physician. It seems to me from my experience ... that, while the colored Negroes have great respect for white doctors, they can get closer to their own members and more or less lay their cards on the table, which means their ignorance, superstitions and doubts. They do not do this with white people and if we can train the Negro doctor at the clinic, he can go among them with enthusiasm and ... knowledge, which ... will have far-reaching results among the colored people.37

Sanger knew blacks were a religious people—and how useful ministers would be to her project. She wrote in the same letter:

The minister's work is also important and he should be trained, perhaps by the Federation as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members [emphasis added]."
The Negro Project and Margaret Sanger


Margaret Sanger's American Birth Control League (ABCL), which along with other groups eventually became known as Planned Parenthood.

PC you are a dishonest fucktard and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Less than 4% of PP clinics that offer abortive services are located in neighborhoods where more than 1/3 of the population are black and for your information Margaret Sanger was vehemently anti-abortion.





1. Your vulgarity bespeaks an inadequate intellect.

2. "Sanger’s legacy today, which is being carried on by Planned Parenthood, includes the devastating impact of “birth control” on the black community. Planned Parenthood has continued the practice of targeting the black population. Over 30% of all abortions are performed on black women and close to 40% of black pregnancies end in abortion."
Margaret Sanger Quotes, History, and Biography - Research, Statistics, and History on Abortion & Human Rights

3. "The modern day abortion rights movement began as the American Birth Control League in 1921. Among its founding board members were Margaret Sanger, Lothrup Stoddard, and C. C. Little. The latter two people were known for their racist views, but Margaret Sanger continually shows up in the company of other racists. In fact, she was the guest speaker at a Ku Klux Klan rally in Silverlake, N. J. in 1926.[1] Not only did she not disassociate herself from these racist views, her own writings leave little doubt as to her sympathies. In implementing a plan called the "Negro Project," that was designed to sterilize Blacks and reduce the number of Black children being born in the south, Sanger wrote:

"[We propose to] hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. And we do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."
Abortion - A Liberal Cause? (Margaret Sanger and Eugenics)

4. " Margaret Sanger and her organization began to be primary sponsors of abortion rights during her lifetime. But because she had associated herself with Adolph Hitler, praising him for his racial politics of eugenics, she changed the name of American Birth Control League to Planned Parenthood during WWII in order to disguise her racist past."
Linda Perlman Gordon,
"Woman's Body, Woman's Right: Birth Control In America,"' p. 347.

Lies must be your native tongue, they come so easily to you.

"A broader analysis conducted by the Guttmacher Institute in 2011 based on data available from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows that fewer than one in ten abortion providers overall are located in neighborhoods where more than half of residents are Black. It is simply false that Planned Parenthood is targeting Black women by setting up clinics primarily in Black neighborhoods."
 
Less than 4% of PP clinics that offer abortive services are located in neighborhoods where more than 1/3 of the population are black
Evidence?

and for your information Margaret Sanger was vehemently anti-abortion.
Even she considered abortion to be too gruesome, at least in the beginning of her career.
 
Until you guys learn to be realistic about human sexuality and reproduction just shut up about PP. Your dislike of them is ignorant and moronic, and so is your view that fetuses are people. They aren't, obviously.
Fetuses are living human beings at an early stage of development. They require oxygen to survive, so that makes them living. They are composed of human DNA so that makes them human.
What evidence do you have that makes them NOT living human beings?
Talking points?
Oh yeah...and by the way....I am pro choice.
It doesn't matter if they're living, because bacteria is living.

What matters is...in what phase of fetal development does a fetus begin to have sensations. Without a cerebral cortex, there cannot be self awareness, emotions, awareness of pain, memories, or any of the brain acitvity that post birth humans have. There is a reason you don't remember being a fetus. Your brain was not developed to the point where you could experience anything

Pro lifers are trying to manipulate parental instincts, which are irrational by neccessity, to assert that 1st and 2nd trimester fetuses are "babies". Because that term helps legitimize their unsound hysterical reactions to the termination of fetus.

Never, on any issue in my lifetime, have I seen the type of hysterical reasoning pro lifers are engaging in. One may have to go as far back as Scopes Monkey, or Salem.
 
"A broader analysis conducted by the Guttmacher Institute in 2011 based on data available from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows that fewer than one in ten abortion providers overall are located in neighborhoods where more than half of residents are Black. It is simply false that Planned Parenthood is targeting Black women by setting up clinics primarily in Black neighborhoods."
You know the Guttmacher Institute is just an arm of the abortion industry right?
 
The fact remains.


The fact remains that PP is a private organization free to support those political organizations that support them just as every other corporation or lobbying group does. No federal money is used for that purpose.



"No federal money is used for that purpose."

False.

Research the term 'fungible.'

Research accounting practices and Hyde amendment compliance.
Wingnuts must be getting pretty desperate if they have to claim "racism" in their attacks on PP.


Seems you require a regular upbraiding...

You are unaware that the origination of Planned Parenthood was to diminish the number blacks...

No. It wasn't.

"It was in 1939 that Sanger's larger vision for dealing with the reproductive practices of black Americans emerged. After the January 1939 merger of her Clinical Research Bureau and the ABCL to form the Birth Control Federation of America, Dr. Clarence J. Gamble was selected to become the BCFA regional director for the South. Dr. Gamble, of the soap-manufacturing Procter and Gamble company, was no newcomer to Sanger's organization. He had previously served as director at large to the predecessor ABCL.


Gamble wrote a memorandum in November 1939 entitled “Suggestions for the Negro Project,” in which he recognized that “black leaders might regard birth control as an extermination plot.” He suggested black leaders be placed in positions where it would appear they were in charge.36 Yet Sanger's reply reflects Gamble's ambivalence about having blacks in authoritative positions:

I note that you doubt it worthwhile to employ a full-time Negro physician. It seems to me from my experience ... that, while the colored Negroes have great respect for white doctors, they can get closer to their own members and more or less lay their cards on the table, which means their ignorance, superstitions and doubts. They do not do this with white people and if we can train the Negro doctor at the clinic, he can go among them with enthusiasm and ... knowledge, which ... will have far-reaching results among the colored people.37

Sanger knew blacks were a religious people—and how useful ministers would be to her project. She wrote in the same letter:

The minister's work is also important and he should be trained, perhaps by the Federation as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members [emphasis added]."
The Negro Project and Margaret Sanger


MSPP / Newsletter / Newsletter #28 (Fall 2001)

Arguments persist about whether or not the Negro Project was purely a racist endeavor (search for "Sanger" "Negro Project" and "racism" on the Internet and be prepared for the onslaught). Certainly the patriarchal racism of the time that guided many of the social policies in Washington and the practices of philanthropic and charitable organizations working to "lift up" African-Americans, dictated both the Federation's and Sanger's approach to blacks and birth control. The public rationale for the Project was rooted in economics, tax-payer burden, and the social threats posed by what was perceived to be an exploding black underclass, rather than the health and sexual liberation of black women (though it should be notes that the birth control movement largely ignored the issue of women's —black or white— sexual autonomy in the interwar years). And there is no doubt that a good number of medical professionals involved in the birth control movement exhibited strong racist sentiments, some of them arguing for and even carrying out compulsory sterilization on black women considered to be of low intelligence and therefore not capable of choosing not to control their fertility, as well as on those deemed morally or behaviorally deviant. But there is no evidence that Sanger or even the Federation coerced or intended to coerce black women into using birth control. The fundamental belief, underscored at every meeting, mentioned in much of the behind-the-scenes correspondence, and evident in all the printed material put out by the Division of Negro Service, was that uncontrolled fertility presented the greatest burden to the poor, and Southern blacks were among the poorest Americans. In fact, the Negro Project did not differ very much from the earlier birth control campaigns in the rural South designed to test simpler methods on poor, uneducated and mostly white agricultural communities. Following these other efforts in the South, it would have been more racist, in Sanger's mind, to ignore African-Americans in the South than to fail at trying to raise the health and economic standards of their communities.



Another dose of truth?

Sure:

"As liberals excoriate Republican Congressman Steve Scalise for speaking to a group with a reported connection to David Duke, former KKK member, I’m reminded today—on the anniversary of Roe v. Wade—of a moment that liberals will never dare acknowledge: a 1926 speech to the KKK by one of their most revered ideological darlings, Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger.

Unlike Scalise, Sanger did not unwittingly speak to a group with a link (direct or indirect) to the KKK through a member. No, Margaret knowingly went directly to the Real McCoy—straight to the dragon’s mouth. In May 1926, a hopeful spring day, this progressive icon, this liberal hero, this founding mother of one of liberalism’s most sacred organizations, Planned Parenthood, an organization that liberals demand we fund with tax dollars, went directly to a KKK meeting and spoke at length to the faithful."
Reflections on Roe: When Margaret Sanger Spoke to the KKK



Clearly, you are clueless about the origins of your favorite groups, in this case one with ties to both the KKK and Adolph Hitler.


But, then....you are clueless about so very many things.
 
Until you guys learn to be realistic about human sexuality and reproduction just shut up about PP. Your dislike of them is ignorant and moronic, and so is your view that fetuses are people. They aren't, obviously.
Fetuses are living human beings at an early stage of development. They require oxygen to survive, so that makes them living. They are composed of human DNA so that makes them human.
What evidence do you have that makes them NOT living human beings?
Talking points?
Oh yeah...and by the way....I am pro choice.
If you are Pro-Choice then you should learn biology. That's ain't it.
 
Until you guys learn to be realistic about human sexuality and reproduction just shut up about PP. Your dislike of them is ignorant and moronic, and so is your view that fetuses are people. They aren't, obviously.
Fetuses are living human beings at an early stage of development. They require oxygen to survive, so that makes them living. They are composed of human DNA so that makes them human.
What evidence do you have that makes them NOT living human beings?
Talking points?
Oh yeah...and by the way....I am pro choice.
It doesn't matter if they're living, because bacteria is living.

What matters is...in what phase of fetal development does a fetus begin to have sensations. Without a cerebral cortex, there cannot be self awareness, emotions, awareness of pain, memories, or any of the brain acitvity that post birth humans have. There is a reason you don't remember being a fetus. Your brain was not developed to the point where you could experience anything

Pro lifers are trying to manipulate parental instincts, which are irrational by neccessity, to assert that 1st and 2nd trimester fetuses are "babies". Because that term helps legitimize their unsound hysterical reactions to the termination of fetus.

Never, on any issue in my lifetime, have I seen the type of hysterical reasoning pro lifers are engaging in. One may have to go as far back as Scopes Monkey, or Salem.



"It doesn't matter if they're living,"
Sieg Heil, you dunce.


The human DNA is there at conception.
 
Until you guys learn to be realistic about human sexuality and reproduction just shut up about PP. Your dislike of them is ignorant and moronic, and so is your view that fetuses are people. They aren't, obviously.
Could you explain the reasoning that you used to come to that ridiculous conclusion?
 
Until you guys learn to be realistic about human sexuality and reproduction just shut up about PP. Your dislike of them is ignorant and moronic, and so is your view that fetuses are people. They aren't, obviously.
Could you explain the reasoning that you used to come to that ridiculous conclusion?
Fetus
young-fetus.jpg

Person
toddler-blocks.jpg

Time and tides change the rules...
 
Another chart:

11825889_1044821228861283_3142180694764245028_n.jpg

Let's provide quality health care for women without funding the abortion industry.
 
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Until you guys learn to be realistic about human sexuality and reproduction just shut up about PP. Your dislike of them is ignorant and moronic, and so is your view that fetuses are people. They aren't, obviously.
Fetuses are living human beings at an early stage of development. They require oxygen to survive, so that makes them living. They are composed of human DNA so that makes them human.
What evidence do you have that makes them NOT living human beings?
Talking points?
Oh yeah...and by the way....I am pro choice.
It doesn't matter if they're living, because bacteria is living.

What matters is...in what phase of fetal development does a fetus begin to have sensations. Without a cerebral cortex, there cannot be self awareness, emotions, awareness of pain, memories, or any of the brain acitvity that post birth humans have. There is a reason you don't remember being a fetus. Your brain was not developed to the point where you could experience anything

Pro lifers are trying to manipulate parental instincts, which are irrational by neccessity, to assert that 1st and 2nd trimester fetuses are "babies". Because that term helps legitimize their unsound hysterical reactions to the termination of fetus.

Never, on any issue in my lifetime, have I seen the type of hysterical reasoning pro lifers are engaging in. One may have to go as far back as Scopes Monkey, or Salem.



"It doesn't matter if they're living,"
Sieg Heil, you dunce.


The human DNA is there at conception.
Human DNA is there when we pull the plug on Grandma when she's bran dead.

Human DNA is there in every sperm and unfertilized egg.

Human DNA is there in ISIS members.

That'sthe kind of flawed hsyterical argument I was talking about
 
Until you guys learn to be realistic about human sexuality and reproduction just shut up about PP. Your dislike of them is ignorant and moronic, and so is your view that fetuses are people. They aren't, obviously.
Fetuses are living human beings at an early stage of development. They require oxygen to survive, so that makes them living. They are composed of human DNA so that makes them human.
What evidence do you have that makes them NOT living human beings?
Talking points?
Oh yeah...and by the way....I am pro choice.
It doesn't matter if they're living, because bacteria is living.

What matters is...in what phase of fetal development does a fetus begin to have sensations. Without a cerebral cortex, there cannot be self awareness, emotions, awareness of pain, memories, or any of the brain acitvity that post birth humans have. There is a reason you don't remember being a fetus. Your brain was not developed to the point where you could experience anything

Pro lifers are trying to manipulate parental instincts, which are irrational by neccessity, to assert that 1st and 2nd trimester fetuses are "babies". Because that term helps legitimize their unsound hysterical reactions to the termination of fetus.

Never, on any issue in my lifetime, have I seen the type of hysterical reasoning pro lifers are engaging in. One may have to go as far back as Scopes Monkey, or Salem.



"It doesn't matter if they're living,"
Sieg Heil, you dunce.


The human DNA is there at conception.
Human DNA is there when we pull the plug on Grandma when she's bran dead.

Human DNA is there in every sperm and unfertilized egg.

Human DNA is there in ISIS members.

That'sthe kind of flawed hsyterical argument I was talking about
Human DNA is in all conceptions, and most will end up down the toilet. Nature is brutal, kiddos, and so is human reproduction.
 
Until you guys learn to be realistic about human sexuality and reproduction just shut up about PP. Your dislike of them is ignorant and moronic, and so is your view that fetuses are people. They aren't, obviously.
Could you explain the reasoning that you used to come to that ridiculous conclusion?
Fetus
young-fetus.jpg

Person
toddler-blocks.jpg

Time and tides change the rules...



For the Left.....killing of either is fine.

  1. President Obama appointed Professor Peter Singer as his heathcare advisor.
    Peter Singer Joins Obama's Health Care Administrators : I Am Not a Fan of Peter Singer Story & Experience
"I Am Not a Fan of Peter Singer"


a. "Singer once wrote, "because people are human does not mean that their lives are more valuable than animals."He not only advocates abortion but also killing disabled babies up to 28 days after they are born.In his book "Practical Ethics," he wrote, "When the death of a disabled infant will lead to the birth of another infant with better prospects of a happy life, the total amount of happiness will be greater if the disabled infant is killed....Killing a disabled infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person.Often, it is not wrong at all."
Peter Singer, "Practical Ethics," Cambridge University Press, 1979, p. 191.


b. Perhaps this is why you would not excoriate the following:
"Police say they're questioning the mother of a newborn baby girl - her umbilical cord still attached - found dead outside a Bronx apartment building.

No arrests have been made.

According to the New York City Police Department, the infant was thrown out a seventh-floor apartment building window with the umbilical cord still attached just after 3:30 p.m. The building is on West 183rd Street near Loring Place North in Morris Heights."
Newborn baby with umbilical cord attached dies after being tossed from window in Bronx
 

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