Who Needs Planned Parenthood??

[PaintMyHouse]

Until you guys learn to be realistic about human sexuality and reproduction just shut up about PP. Your dislike of them is ignorant and moronic, and so is your view that fetuses are people. They aren't, obviously.

Could you explain the reasoning that you used to come to that ridiculous conclusion?

Fetus

Person

Time and tides change the rules...

For the Left.....killing of either is fine.

1. President Obama appointed Professor Peter Singer as his heathcare advisor.
   Peter Singer Joins Obama's Health Care Administrators : I Am Not a Fan of Peter Singer Story & Experience

"I Am Not a Fan of Peter Singer"


a. "Singer once wrote, "because people are human does not mean that their lives are more valuable than animals."He not only advocates abortion but also killing disabled babies up to 28 days after they are born.In his book "Practical Ethics," he wrote, "When the death of a disabled infant will lead to the birth of another infant with better prospects of a happy life, the total amount of happiness will be greater if the disabled infant is killed....Killing a disabled infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person.Often, it is not wrong at all."
Peter Singer, "Practical Ethics," Cambridge University Press, 1979, p. 191.


b. Perhaps this is why you would not excoriate the following:
"Police say they're questioning the mother of a newborn baby girl - her umbilical cord still attached - found dead outside a Bronx apartment building.

No arrests have been made.

According to the New York City Police Department, the infant was thrown out a seventh-floor apartment building window with the umbilical cord still attached just after 3:30 p.m. The building is on West 183rd Street near Loring Place North in Morris Heights."
Newborn baby with umbilical cord attached dies after being tossed from window in Bronx

Singer is rational, and he can following a line of reasoning end to end, hence why you reject his reasoning.

No doubt you find the most extreme, perverted line of thinking rational. More proof, as if we needed more, that you are mentally ill.

Rational thought is rational thought. There's nothing perverted about it. In a nutshell, a week-old puppy is far more aware of his world than a 20-week old fetus.

 

[toxicmedia]

In Roe V Wade...where do you think they came up with the difference between the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd trimesters? It the development of a cerebral cortex.

So infants or the handicapped or the elderly who have an insufficiently developed or damaged cortex can be killed?

This "Doctors on Feta Pain" website is nothing but a pro life web site.

So they must be wrong because they disagree with you?! Are you always this irrational?

Brain dead infants, and brain dead elderly folks should be killed on demand from the "family"

 

[PoliticalChic]

"No federal money is used for that purpose."

False.

Research the term 'fungible.'

Research accounting practices and Hyde amendment compliance.

Wingnuts must be getting pretty desperate if they have to claim "racism" in their attacks on PP.

Seems you require a regular upbraiding...

You are unaware that the origination of Planned Parenthood was to diminish the number blacks...

No. It wasn't.

"It was in 1939 that Sanger's larger vision for dealing with the reproductive practices of black Americans emerged. After the January 1939 merger of her Clinical Research Bureau and the ABCL to form the Birth Control Federation of America, Dr. Clarence J. Gamble was selected to become the BCFA regional director for the South. Dr. Gamble, of the soap-manufacturing Procter and Gamble company, was no newcomer to Sanger's organization. He had previously served as director at large to the predecessor ABCL.


Gamble wrote a memorandum in November 1939 entitled “Suggestions for the Negro Project,” in which he recognized that “black leaders might regard birth control as an extermination plot.” He suggested black leaders be placed in positions where it would appear they were in charge.36 Yet Sanger's reply reflects Gamble's ambivalence about having blacks in authoritative positions:

I note that you doubt it worthwhile to employ a full-time Negro physician. It seems to me from my experience ... that, while the colored Negroes have great respect for white doctors, they can get closer to their own members and more or less lay their cards on the table, which means their ignorance, superstitions and doubts. They do not do this with white people and if we can train the Negro doctor at the clinic, he can go among them with enthusiasm and ... knowledge, which ... will have far-reaching results among the colored people.37

Sanger knew blacks were a religious people—and how useful ministers would be to her project. She wrote in the same letter:

The minister's work is also important and he should be trained, perhaps by the Federation as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members [emphasis added]."
The Negro Project and Margaret Sanger

MSPP / Newsletter / Newsletter #28 (Fall 2001)

Arguments persist about whether or not the Negro Project was purely a racist endeavor (search for "Sanger" "Negro Project" and "racism" on the Internet and be prepared for the onslaught). Certainly the patriarchal racism of the time that guided many of the social policies in Washington and the practices of philanthropic and charitable organizations working to "lift up" African-Americans, dictated both the Federation's and Sanger's approach to blacks and birth control. The public rationale for the Project was rooted in economics, tax-payer burden, and the social threats posed by what was perceived to be an exploding black underclass, rather than the health and sexual liberation of black women (though it should be notes that the birth control movement largely ignored the issue of women's —black or white— sexual autonomy in the interwar years). And there is no doubt that a good number of medical professionals involved in the birth control movement exhibited strong racist sentiments, some of them arguing for and even carrying out compulsory sterilization on black women considered to be of low intelligence and therefore not capable of choosing not to control their fertility, as well as on those deemed morally or behaviorally deviant. But there is no evidence that Sanger or even the Federation coerced or intended to coerce black women into using birth control. The fundamental belief, underscored at every meeting, mentioned in much of the behind-the-scenes correspondence, and evident in all the printed material put out by the Division of Negro Service, was that uncontrolled fertility presented the greatest burden to the poor, and Southern blacks were among the poorest Americans. In fact, the Negro Project did not differ very much from the earlier birth control campaigns in the rural South designed to test simpler methods on poor, uneducated and mostly white agricultural communities. Following these other efforts in the South, it would have been more racist, in Sanger's mind, to ignore African-Americans in the South than to fail at trying to raise the health and economic standards of their communities.​

Another dose of truth?

Sure:

"As liberals excoriate Republican Congressman Steve Scalise for speaking to a group with a reported connection to David Duke, former KKK member, I’m reminded today—on the anniversary of Roe v. Wade—of a moment that liberals will never dare acknowledge: a 1926 speech to the KKK by one of their most revered ideological darlings, Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger.

Unlike Scalise, Sanger did not unwittingly speak to a group with a link (direct or indirect) to the KKK through a member. No, Margaret knowingly went directly to the Real McCoy—straight to the dragon’s mouth. In May 1926, a hopeful spring day, this progressive icon, this liberal hero, this founding mother of one of liberalism’s most sacred organizations, Planned Parenthood, an organization that liberals demand we fund with tax dollars, went directly to a KKK meeting and spoke at length to the faithful."
Reflections on Roe: When Margaret Sanger Spoke to the KKK



Clearly, you are clueless about the origins of your favorite groups, in this case one with ties to both the KKK and Adolph Hitler.


But, then....you are clueless about so very many things.

She gave one talk to the Women's Auxilliary of the KKK.

Are you saying she was a member? Did she do work on their behalf or under their auspices? Did she praise them or promote them? What exactly did she do besides give a talk to the women's auxilliary. What ties did she have to Hitler? Please fill us in with some actual evidence instead of your usual garbage

OMG.


She allied herself with the KKK, and with the Nazis.

They had the same views....'racial purity.'

George Bernard Shaw supported mass slaughter of undesirable....and the following is enlightening vis-a-vis his relationship with Sanger...

In the June 1929 Birth Control Review, George Bernard Shaw supports Sanger’s efforts to promote birth control when he said, ” We are up against an overpopulation problem created by Capitalism…Socialists say quite truly that Socialism can get rid of it…But it cannot wait for Socialism…”

In Margaret Sanger’s Autobiography, Sanger writes, "Jane had lnvited literary luminaries and their wives George Bernard Shaw, Arnold Bennett, Sir Arbuthnot Lane, Professor E W MacBride of the Eugenics Education Society, Walter Salter of the League of Nations, and Lord Buckmaster.

Sanger continues, “I was back In New York by the end of October, and soon came a letter from Shaw cheering me with his point of view.”


Sanger reads the letter from George Bernard Shaw and says Shaw compares the “more evolved people” or “White Elitists” to “lower classes who need to be taught to control their populations calling them “amoeba.”


Learn the roots of abortion which are soaked in racism and eugenics and the ideas promoted by George Bernard Shaw and Margaret Sanger,..."
George Bernard Shaw, Hitler, and Margaret Sanger

 

[PoliticalChic]

In Roe V Wade...where do you think they came up with the difference between the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd trimesters? It the development of a cerebral cortex.

So infants or the handicapped or the elderly who have an insufficiently developed or damaged cortex can be killed?

This "Doctors on Feta Pain" website is nothing but a pro life web site.

So they must be wrong because they disagree with you?! Are you always this irrational?

Brain dead infants, and brain dead elderly folks should be killed on demand from the "family"

Now look who's lying.....the 300,000+ slaughtered are not 'brain dead.'

 

[Thunderbird]

Singer is rational, and he can following a line of reasoning end to end, hence why you reject his reasoning.

You seem to be defending Singer's position.

Fact Sheet on Peter Singer | Independent Living Institute

 

[nuhuh]

Odd that you indict Margaret Sanger for a Nazi relationship when it was none other than Senator Prescott Bush who served as National Treasurer for the first campaign to establish Planned Parenthood.

http://www.randomhouse.com/doubleday/thefamily/media/thefamily_document007a.pdf

 

[PaintMyHouse]

For the Left.....killing of either is fine.

1. President Obama appointed Professor Peter Singer as his heathcare advisor.
   Peter Singer Joins Obama's Health Care Administrators : I Am Not a Fan of Peter Singer Story & Experience

"I Am Not a Fan of Peter Singer"


a. "Singer once wrote, "because people are human does not mean that their lives are more valuable than animals."He not only advocates abortion but also killing disabled babies up to 28 days after they are born.In his book "Practical Ethics," he wrote, "When the death of a disabled infant will lead to the birth of another infant with better prospects of a happy life, the total amount of happiness will be greater if the disabled infant is killed....Killing a disabled infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person.Often, it is not wrong at all."
Peter Singer, "Practical Ethics," Cambridge University Press, 1979, p. 191.


b. Perhaps this is why you would not excoriate the following:
"Police say they're questioning the mother of a newborn baby girl - her umbilical cord still attached - found dead outside a Bronx apartment building.

No arrests have been made.

According to the New York City Police Department, the infant was thrown out a seventh-floor apartment building window with the umbilical cord still attached just after 3:30 p.m. The building is on West 183rd Street near Loring Place North in Morris Heights."
Newborn baby with umbilical cord attached dies after being tossed from window in Bronx

You're losing it.

Killing post birth babies, and 3rd trimester fetuses, is not the position of pro choicers.

You're just making up lies, because you're hysterical

"Killing post birth babies, and 3rd trimester fetuses, is not the position of pro choicers."

Of course it is.

You elected a President who was copacetic with allowing a baby born.....born....as a result of a botched abortion to die unattended.
That's called infanticide.

And....I never lie.

Okay, you're drunk then.

Show me anyone in the pro choice movement, who has said it's okay to kill a baby after it's born.

And do you expect anyone to believe...Obama wants post birth babies to die?

Do you know how unbalanced that is?......get help woman.

Post-birth abortions are valid but you won't find any well-known Pro-Choices advocating for them. That's too hot to handle for most.

I didn't even know post birth abortions are possible. Because the pregnancy is at an end when the baby is born, so nothing to abort.

What do you mean?...babies that die during or after birth?

It's a philosophical position that says ending the life of a late-term fetus is really no different than ending the life of a neonate. If you would have aborted a Down's fetus, had you known, what difference does it make if it is born or not born? Either way, you want a different baby and the difference is only the matter of a degree. To most that is infanticide, but it's actually common sense. In the past a woman would have just left the baby out in the snow to die. The same if they had too many mouths to feed.

 

[NYcarbineer]

In Roe V Wade...where do you think they came up with the difference between the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd trimesters? It the development of a cerebral cortex.

So infants or the handicapped or the elderly who have an insufficiently developed or damaged cortex can be killed?

This "Doctors on Feta Pain" website is nothing but a pro life web site.

So they must be wrong because they disagree with you?! Are you always this irrational?

Brain dead infants, and brain dead elderly folks should be killed on demand from the "family"

Now look who's lying.....the 300,000+ slaughtered are not 'brain dead.'

Then why don't you want to punish the women who 'slaughtered' those 'babies'?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Singer is rational, and he can following a line of reasoning end to end, hence why you reject his reasoning.

You seem to be defending Singer's position.

Fact Sheet on Peter Singer | Independent Living Institute

I can defend most of Singer's work, until we fight over the steak I'm about to eat. I'm an omnivore, all humans are, but he has chosen the higher more moral position, he doesn't eat sentient beings that we call meat.

 

[Coyote]

Research accounting practices and Hyde amendment compliance.

Wingnuts must be getting pretty desperate if they have to claim "racism" in their attacks on PP.

Seems you require a regular upbraiding...

You are unaware that the origination of Planned Parenthood was to diminish the number blacks...

No. It wasn't.

"It was in 1939 that Sanger's larger vision for dealing with the reproductive practices of black Americans emerged. After the January 1939 merger of her Clinical Research Bureau and the ABCL to form the Birth Control Federation of America, Dr. Clarence J. Gamble was selected to become the BCFA regional director for the South. Dr. Gamble, of the soap-manufacturing Procter and Gamble company, was no newcomer to Sanger's organization. He had previously served as director at large to the predecessor ABCL.


Gamble wrote a memorandum in November 1939 entitled “Suggestions for the Negro Project,” in which he recognized that “black leaders might regard birth control as an extermination plot.” He suggested black leaders be placed in positions where it would appear they were in charge.36 Yet Sanger's reply reflects Gamble's ambivalence about having blacks in authoritative positions:

I note that you doubt it worthwhile to employ a full-time Negro physician. It seems to me from my experience ... that, while the colored Negroes have great respect for white doctors, they can get closer to their own members and more or less lay their cards on the table, which means their ignorance, superstitions and doubts. They do not do this with white people and if we can train the Negro doctor at the clinic, he can go among them with enthusiasm and ... knowledge, which ... will have far-reaching results among the colored people.37

Sanger knew blacks were a religious people—and how useful ministers would be to her project. She wrote in the same letter:

The minister's work is also important and he should be trained, perhaps by the Federation as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members [emphasis added]."
The Negro Project and Margaret Sanger

MSPP / Newsletter / Newsletter #28 (Fall 2001)

Arguments persist about whether or not the Negro Project was purely a racist endeavor (search for "Sanger" "Negro Project" and "racism" on the Internet and be prepared for the onslaught). Certainly the patriarchal racism of the time that guided many of the social policies in Washington and the practices of philanthropic and charitable organizations working to "lift up" African-Americans, dictated both the Federation's and Sanger's approach to blacks and birth control. The public rationale for the Project was rooted in economics, tax-payer burden, and the social threats posed by what was perceived to be an exploding black underclass, rather than the health and sexual liberation of black women (though it should be notes that the birth control movement largely ignored the issue of women's —black or white— sexual autonomy in the interwar years). And there is no doubt that a good number of medical professionals involved in the birth control movement exhibited strong racist sentiments, some of them arguing for and even carrying out compulsory sterilization on black women considered to be of low intelligence and therefore not capable of choosing not to control their fertility, as well as on those deemed morally or behaviorally deviant. But there is no evidence that Sanger or even the Federation coerced or intended to coerce black women into using birth control. The fundamental belief, underscored at every meeting, mentioned in much of the behind-the-scenes correspondence, and evident in all the printed material put out by the Division of Negro Service, was that uncontrolled fertility presented the greatest burden to the poor, and Southern blacks were among the poorest Americans. In fact, the Negro Project did not differ very much from the earlier birth control campaigns in the rural South designed to test simpler methods on poor, uneducated and mostly white agricultural communities. Following these other efforts in the South, it would have been more racist, in Sanger's mind, to ignore African-Americans in the South than to fail at trying to raise the health and economic standards of their communities.​

Another dose of truth?

Sure:

"As liberals excoriate Republican Congressman Steve Scalise for speaking to a group with a reported connection to David Duke, former KKK member, I’m reminded today—on the anniversary of Roe v. Wade—of a moment that liberals will never dare acknowledge: a 1926 speech to the KKK by one of their most revered ideological darlings, Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger.

Unlike Scalise, Sanger did not unwittingly speak to a group with a link (direct or indirect) to the KKK through a member. No, Margaret knowingly went directly to the Real McCoy—straight to the dragon’s mouth. In May 1926, a hopeful spring day, this progressive icon, this liberal hero, this founding mother of one of liberalism’s most sacred organizations, Planned Parenthood, an organization that liberals demand we fund with tax dollars, went directly to a KKK meeting and spoke at length to the faithful."
Reflections on Roe: When Margaret Sanger Spoke to the KKK



Clearly, you are clueless about the origins of your favorite groups, in this case one with ties to both the KKK and Adolph Hitler.


But, then....you are clueless about so very many things.

She gave one talk to the Women's Auxilliary of the KKK.

Are you saying she was a member? Did she do work on their behalf or under their auspices? Did she praise them or promote them? What exactly did she do besides give a talk to the women's auxilliary. What ties did she have to Hitler? Please fill us in with some actual evidence instead of your usual garbage

OMG.


She allied herself with the KKK, and with the Nazis.

They had the same views....'racial purity.'

George Bernard Shaw supported mass slaughter of undesirable....and the following is enlightening vis-a-vis his relationship with Sanger...

In the June 1929 Birth Control Review, George Bernard Shaw supports Sanger’s efforts to promote birth control when he said, ” We are up against an overpopulation problem created by Capitalism…Socialists say quite truly that Socialism can get rid of it…But it cannot wait for Socialism…”

In Margaret Sanger’s Autobiography, Sanger writes, "Jane had lnvited literary luminaries and their wives George Bernard Shaw, Arnold Bennett, Sir Arbuthnot Lane, Professor E W MacBride of the Eugenics Education Society, Walter Salter of the League of Nations, and Lord Buckmaster.

Sanger continues, “I was back In New York by the end of October, and soon came a letter from Shaw cheering me with his point of view.”


Sanger reads the letter from George Bernard Shaw and says Shaw compares the “more evolved people” or “White Elitists” to “lower classes who need to be taught to control their populations calling them “amoeba.”


Learn the roots of abortion which are soaked in racism and eugenics and the ideas promoted by George Bernard Shaw and Margaret Sanger,..."
George Bernard Shaw, Hitler, and Margaret Sanger

You've got a whole bunch of butchered quotes and "opinions" from a blog attempting to create some vague associations. None of this indicates an association with the KKK and the Nazi's.

Try to find something direct and pertinant.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Could you explain the reasoning that you used to come to that ridiculous conclusion?

Fetus

Person

Time and tides change the rules...

For the Left.....killing of either is fine.

1. President Obama appointed Professor Peter Singer as his heathcare advisor.
   Peter Singer Joins Obama's Health Care Administrators : I Am Not a Fan of Peter Singer Story & Experience

"I Am Not a Fan of Peter Singer"


a. "Singer once wrote, "because people are human does not mean that their lives are more valuable than animals."He not only advocates abortion but also killing disabled babies up to 28 days after they are born.In his book "Practical Ethics," he wrote, "When the death of a disabled infant will lead to the birth of another infant with better prospects of a happy life, the total amount of happiness will be greater if the disabled infant is killed....Killing a disabled infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person.Often, it is not wrong at all."
Peter Singer, "Practical Ethics," Cambridge University Press, 1979, p. 191.


b. Perhaps this is why you would not excoriate the following:
"Police say they're questioning the mother of a newborn baby girl - her umbilical cord still attached - found dead outside a Bronx apartment building.

No arrests have been made.

According to the New York City Police Department, the infant was thrown out a seventh-floor apartment building window with the umbilical cord still attached just after 3:30 p.m. The building is on West 183rd Street near Loring Place North in Morris Heights."
Newborn baby with umbilical cord attached dies after being tossed from window in Bronx

Singer is rational, and he can following a line of reasoning end to end, hence why you reject his reasoning.

No doubt you find the most extreme, perverted line of thinking rational. More proof, as if we needed more, that you are mentally ill.

Rational thought is rational thought. There's nothing perverted about it. In a nutshell, a week-old puppy is far more aware of his world than a 20-week old fetus.

Rational thought sans morality produces the Holocause, eugenics, and abortion on demand.


Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German official and scientists.

Hitler studied American eugenics laws. He tried to legitimize his anti-Semitism by medicalizing it, and wrapping it in the more palatable pseudoscientific facade of eugenics. Hitler was able to recruit more followers among reasonable Germans by claiming that science was on his side. While Hitler's race hatred sprung from his own mind, the intellectual outlines of the eugenics Hitler adopted in 1924 were made in America.

During the '20s, Carnegie Institution eugenic scientists cultivated deep personal and professional relationships with Germany's fascist eugenicists. InMein Kampf, published in 1924, Hitler quoted American eugenic ideology and openly displayed a thorough knowledge of American eugenics. "There is today one state," wrote Hitler, "in which at least weak beginnings toward a better conception [of immigration] are noticeable. Of course, it is not our model German Republic, but the United States."

Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
- See more at: The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics

1. Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.” (Margaret Sanger and Sterilization) German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Sanger reads the letter from George Bernard Shaw and says Shaw compares the “more evolved people” or “White Elitists” to “lower classes who need to be taught to control their populations calling them “amoeba.”

He must have gotten laid the night before he said that? He was in a surprisingly good mood apparently...

 

[NYcarbineer]

The GOPnuts in Congress are having a PP hearing, they called in the head of PP but the GOP refused to bring in the people who made the doctored tapes.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Fetus

Person

Time and tides change the rules...

For the Left.....killing of either is fine.

1. President Obama appointed Professor Peter Singer as his heathcare advisor.
   Peter Singer Joins Obama's Health Care Administrators : I Am Not a Fan of Peter Singer Story & Experience

"I Am Not a Fan of Peter Singer"


a. "Singer once wrote, "because people are human does not mean that their lives are more valuable than animals."He not only advocates abortion but also killing disabled babies up to 28 days after they are born.In his book "Practical Ethics," he wrote, "When the death of a disabled infant will lead to the birth of another infant with better prospects of a happy life, the total amount of happiness will be greater if the disabled infant is killed....Killing a disabled infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person.Often, it is not wrong at all."
Peter Singer, "Practical Ethics," Cambridge University Press, 1979, p. 191.


b. Perhaps this is why you would not excoriate the following:
"Police say they're questioning the mother of a newborn baby girl - her umbilical cord still attached - found dead outside a Bronx apartment building.

No arrests have been made.

According to the New York City Police Department, the infant was thrown out a seventh-floor apartment building window with the umbilical cord still attached just after 3:30 p.m. The building is on West 183rd Street near Loring Place North in Morris Heights."
Newborn baby with umbilical cord attached dies after being tossed from window in Bronx

Singer is rational, and he can following a line of reasoning end to end, hence why you reject his reasoning.

No doubt you find the most extreme, perverted line of thinking rational. More proof, as if we needed more, that you are mentally ill.

Rational thought is rational thought. There's nothing perverted about it. In a nutshell, a week-old puppy is far more aware of his world than a 20-week old fetus.

Rational thought sans morality produces the Holocause, eugenics, and abortion on demand.


Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German official and scientists.

Hitler studied American eugenics laws. He tried to legitimize his anti-Semitism by medicalizing it, and wrapping it in the more palatable pseudoscientific facade of eugenics. Hitler was able to recruit more followers among reasonable Germans by claiming that science was on his side. While Hitler's race hatred sprung from his own mind, the intellectual outlines of the eugenics Hitler adopted in 1924 were made in America.

During the '20s, Carnegie Institution eugenic scientists cultivated deep personal and professional relationships with Germany's fascist eugenicists. InMein Kampf, published in 1924, Hitler quoted American eugenic ideology and openly displayed a thorough knowledge of American eugenics. "There is today one state," wrote Hitler, "in which at least weak beginnings toward a better conception [of immigration] are noticeable. Of course, it is not our model German Republic, but the United States."

Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
- See more at: The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics

1. Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.” (Margaret Sanger and Sterilization) German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.

Margaret Sanger believed that women should have some control over their bodies when it came to reproduction,

that's all.

It's ghoulish, but not surprising, that you believe otherwise.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Fetus

Person

Time and tides change the rules...

For the Left.....killing of either is fine.

1. President Obama appointed Professor Peter Singer as his heathcare advisor.
   Peter Singer Joins Obama's Health Care Administrators : I Am Not a Fan of Peter Singer Story & Experience

"I Am Not a Fan of Peter Singer"


a. "Singer once wrote, "because people are human does not mean that their lives are more valuable than animals."He not only advocates abortion but also killing disabled babies up to 28 days after they are born.In his book "Practical Ethics," he wrote, "When the death of a disabled infant will lead to the birth of another infant with better prospects of a happy life, the total amount of happiness will be greater if the disabled infant is killed....Killing a disabled infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person.Often, it is not wrong at all."
Peter Singer, "Practical Ethics," Cambridge University Press, 1979, p. 191.


b. Perhaps this is why you would not excoriate the following:
"Police say they're questioning the mother of a newborn baby girl - her umbilical cord still attached - found dead outside a Bronx apartment building.

No arrests have been made.

According to the New York City Police Department, the infant was thrown out a seventh-floor apartment building window with the umbilical cord still attached just after 3:30 p.m. The building is on West 183rd Street near Loring Place North in Morris Heights."
Newborn baby with umbilical cord attached dies after being tossed from window in Bronx

Singer is rational, and he can following a line of reasoning end to end, hence why you reject his reasoning.

No doubt you find the most extreme, perverted line of thinking rational. More proof, as if we needed more, that you are mentally ill.

Rational thought is rational thought. There's nothing perverted about it. In a nutshell, a week-old puppy is far more aware of his world than a 20-week old fetus.

Rational thought sans morality produces the Holocause, eugenics, and abortion on demand.


Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German official and scientists.

Hitler studied American eugenics laws. He tried to legitimize his anti-Semitism by medicalizing it, and wrapping it in the more palatable pseudoscientific facade of eugenics. Hitler was able to recruit more followers among reasonable Germans by claiming that science was on his side. While Hitler's race hatred sprung from his own mind, the intellectual outlines of the eugenics Hitler adopted in 1924 were made in America.

During the '20s, Carnegie Institution eugenic scientists cultivated deep personal and professional relationships with Germany's fascist eugenicists. InMein Kampf, published in 1924, Hitler quoted American eugenic ideology and openly displayed a thorough knowledge of American eugenics. "There is today one state," wrote Hitler, "in which at least weak beginnings toward a better conception [of immigration] are noticeable. Of course, it is not our model German Republic, but the United States."

Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
- See more at: The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics

1. Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.” (Margaret Sanger and Sterilization) German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.

He also liked how we slaughtered the natives here to take over the place. Just because Hitler liked or disliked something doesn't change what it is. He liked dog and children but I doubt you want to outlaw them eh?

 

[Coyote]

In Roe V Wade...where do you think they came up with the difference between the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd trimesters? It the development of a cerebral cortex.

So infants or the handicapped or the elderly who have an insufficiently developed or damaged cortex can be killed?

This "Doctors on Feta Pain" website is nothing but a pro life web site.

So they must be wrong because they disagree with you?! Are you always this irrational?

Brain dead infants, and brain dead elderly folks should be killed on demand from the "family"

Now look who's lying.....the 300,000+ slaughtered are not 'brain dead.'

More than 60% of abortions occur prior to 8 weeks. The brain doesn't even begin to function until 10 weeks. At a guess - more than half are "brain dead" or brainless.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

For the Left.....killing of either is fine.

1. President Obama appointed Professor Peter Singer as his heathcare advisor.
   Peter Singer Joins Obama's Health Care Administrators : I Am Not a Fan of Peter Singer Story & Experience

"I Am Not a Fan of Peter Singer"


a. "Singer once wrote, "because people are human does not mean that their lives are more valuable than animals."He not only advocates abortion but also killing disabled babies up to 28 days after they are born.In his book "Practical Ethics," he wrote, "When the death of a disabled infant will lead to the birth of another infant with better prospects of a happy life, the total amount of happiness will be greater if the disabled infant is killed....Killing a disabled infant is not morally equivalent to killing a person.Often, it is not wrong at all."
Peter Singer, "Practical Ethics," Cambridge University Press, 1979, p. 191.


b. Perhaps this is why you would not excoriate the following:
"Police say they're questioning the mother of a newborn baby girl - her umbilical cord still attached - found dead outside a Bronx apartment building.

No arrests have been made.

According to the New York City Police Department, the infant was thrown out a seventh-floor apartment building window with the umbilical cord still attached just after 3:30 p.m. The building is on West 183rd Street near Loring Place North in Morris Heights."
Newborn baby with umbilical cord attached dies after being tossed from window in Bronx

Singer is rational, and he can following a line of reasoning end to end, hence why you reject his reasoning.

No doubt you find the most extreme, perverted line of thinking rational. More proof, as if we needed more, that you are mentally ill.

Rational thought is rational thought. There's nothing perverted about it. In a nutshell, a week-old puppy is far more aware of his world than a 20-week old fetus.

Rational thought sans morality produces the Holocause, eugenics, and abortion on demand.


Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German official and scientists.

Hitler studied American eugenics laws. He tried to legitimize his anti-Semitism by medicalizing it, and wrapping it in the more palatable pseudoscientific facade of eugenics. Hitler was able to recruit more followers among reasonable Germans by claiming that science was on his side. While Hitler's race hatred sprung from his own mind, the intellectual outlines of the eugenics Hitler adopted in 1924 were made in America.

During the '20s, Carnegie Institution eugenic scientists cultivated deep personal and professional relationships with Germany's fascist eugenicists. InMein Kampf, published in 1924, Hitler quoted American eugenic ideology and openly displayed a thorough knowledge of American eugenics. "There is today one state," wrote Hitler, "in which at least weak beginnings toward a better conception [of immigration] are noticeable. Of course, it is not our model German Republic, but the United States."

Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
- See more at: The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics

1. Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.” (Margaret Sanger and Sterilization) German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.

Margaret Sanger believed that women should have some control over their bodies when it came to reproduction,

that's all.

It's ghoulish, but not surprising, that you believe otherwise.

Women have complete control... some just choose not to exercise said control. Murdering unborn children is what's ghoulish.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Singer is rational, and he can following a line of reasoning end to end, hence why you reject his reasoning.

No doubt you find the most extreme, perverted line of thinking rational. More proof, as if we needed more, that you are mentally ill.

Rational thought is rational thought. There's nothing perverted about it. In a nutshell, a week-old puppy is far more aware of his world than a 20-week old fetus.

Rational thought sans morality produces the Holocause, eugenics, and abortion on demand.


Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German official and scientists.

Hitler studied American eugenics laws. He tried to legitimize his anti-Semitism by medicalizing it, and wrapping it in the more palatable pseudoscientific facade of eugenics. Hitler was able to recruit more followers among reasonable Germans by claiming that science was on his side. While Hitler's race hatred sprung from his own mind, the intellectual outlines of the eugenics Hitler adopted in 1924 were made in America.

During the '20s, Carnegie Institution eugenic scientists cultivated deep personal and professional relationships with Germany's fascist eugenicists. InMein Kampf, published in 1924, Hitler quoted American eugenic ideology and openly displayed a thorough knowledge of American eugenics. "There is today one state," wrote Hitler, "in which at least weak beginnings toward a better conception [of immigration] are noticeable. Of course, it is not our model German Republic, but the United States."

Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."
- See more at: The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics

1. Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his“The Case for Sterilization.” (Margaret Sanger and Sterilization) German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.

Margaret Sanger believed that women should have some control over their bodies when it came to reproduction,

that's all.

It's ghoulish, but not surprising, that you believe otherwise.

Women have complete control... some just choose not to exercise said control. Murdering unborn children is what's ghoulish.

Complete control? Not the last time I checked. Most of of the time taking your pretty panties off is an option, but not always eh...

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Wow... gotta love the left... infanticide, gay marriage, sodomy.. just a laundry list of all things disgusting.

 

[Jarhead]

Until you guys learn to be realistic about human sexuality and reproduction just shut up about PP. Your dislike of them is ignorant and moronic, and so is your view that fetuses are people. They aren't, obviously.

Fetuses are living human beings at an early stage of development. They require oxygen to survive, so that makes them living. They are composed of human DNA so that makes them human.
What evidence do you have that makes them NOT living human beings?
Talking points?
Oh yeah...and by the way....I am pro choice.

It doesn't matter if they're living, because bacteria is living.

What matters is...in what phase of fetal development does a fetus begin to have sensations. Without a cerebral cortex, there cannot be self awareness, emotions, awareness of pain, memories, or any of the brain acitvity that post birth humans have. There is a reason you don't remember being a fetus. Your brain was not developed to the point where you could experience anything

Pro lifers are trying to manipulate parental instincts, which are irrational by neccessity, to assert that 1st and 2nd trimester fetuses are "babies". Because that term helps legitimize their unsound hysterical reactions to the termination of fetus.

Never, on any issue in my lifetime, have I seen the type of hysterical reasoning pro lifers are engaging in. One may have to go as far back as Scopes Monkey, or Salem.

Bacteria is not composed of human DNA...I noticed you ignored that part..

So......a fetus requires oxygen to live.....a fetus is composed of human DNA...

So a fetus is a human life at the early stage of development.

Because a human fetus at the early stage of development does NOT have sensations is a contributing factor to my position as a pro choicer.

But it does not mean that a living being composed of human DNA is not a living human being.

And by the way....drop the arrogant tone.....Pro lifers referring to first and second trimester fetuses as babies is no different than pro choicers, such as yourself, denying that a fetus who is composed of human dna and requires oxygen to live is not a human living being.

Look in the mirror.