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OCA said:I wouldn't vote for Giuliani under any circumstances, he's radical left on social issues.
OCA said:Its laughable, he's heading that way and no one cares, look at all the people who are talking up Giuliani who is left of center at best.
I wouldn't vote for Giuliani under any circumstances, he's radical left on social issues.
Very sad to have to say, I agree 100%.OCA said:This is true, but we shouldn't accept mediocrity, Bush is as fucking mediocre as they come. I used to love this guy but unless you've been under a rock lately you can't come to any other conclusion than he ain't worth two shits.
I know. At one point I thought ole W was "Dumb like a fox", now I'm thinking "If it sounds like a duck, looks like a duck, then....."OCA said:P he just keeps putting himself in situations where he looks stupid, like his policy sppech on Iraq the other day, he keeps saying all's well, ALL IS NOT WELL! If it were well we'd be home by now.
OCA said:Does he care? Not one iota. Fuck him.
Mr. P said:I know. At one point I thought ole W was "Dumb like a fox", now I'm thinking "If it sounds like a duck, looks like a duck, then....."
Even I am starting to think "Vietnam" more and more.
archangel said:I said this in here about 8 months ago...just about everyone jumped on me about it...what do I know...just a VN era vet...'The Middle East War is different' Same old story with GW as with Johnson...as OCA said....this is so very true!
dilloduck said:There are some similarites to be sure but also some notable differences which make me more optimistic about the outcome. There is no "super power" backing the insurgents for one thing and the Iraqis are much more interested in their outcome than the South Vietnamese were. Biggest difference is an all volunteer force fighting there. Makes it MUCH more difficult for the anti-war folks to get any traction. Sheehan has gotten a lot of coverage but the "movement" is more like something that would come out of you bowels.
archangel said:I beg to differ with you dillo...the two old adversaries...'China and Russia' are once again in the mix along with France...Iraq is leaning toward making amends with Iran as we speak and who is supplying Iran with Tech and munitions...humm...looks very familiar to me! and GW is cowtailing with a political war vs a military war...same as Johnson...just a matter of time now...sad but true!
dilloduck said:So predict an outcome for me---the US gonna cut and run ?
It's not up to us who Iraq chooses to buddy up with in the long run. And look what happened to Viet Nam----communism?------looks more like rampant capitalism to me.
dilloduck said:So predict an outcome for me---the US gonna cut and run ?
It's not up to us who Iraq chooses to buddy up with in the long run. And look what happened to Viet Nam----communism?------looks more like rampant capitalism to me.
Nuc said:Off topic. Is OCA correct or not? Has Bush lived up to his promises to his base? With no Democrat controls in place he should have been able to. Has he?
Avatar4321 said:I think Bush has lived up to his promises to the base. He promised that he would spend more on education and Medicare. I don't think he needed to but it was one of his campaign promises so why on earth should we be surprised when he follows through? And increasing military spending is a given considering the war on terror and the fact that Clinton decimated our military spending. I think the President could offset more of the costs but cutting into social programs.
My only question on President Bush fulfilling his promises is the Supreme Court nomination. Both Roberts and Miers are still relative unknowns. However, knowing how the President has followed through on his other promises I believe he believes he has fullfilled his promise.
Avatar4321 said:I think Bush has lived up to his promises to the base. He promised that he would spend more on education and Medicare. I don't think he needed to but it was one of his campaign promises so why on earth should we be surprised when he follows through? And increasing military spending is a given considering the war on terror and the fact that Clinton decimated our military spending. I think the President could offset more of the costs but cutting into social programs.
My only question on President Bush fulfilling his promises is the Supreme Court nomination. Both Roberts and Miers are still relative unknowns. However, knowing how the President has followed through on his other promises I believe he believes he has fullfilled his promise.
dilloduck said:How do you suggest people "hold their feet to the fire"?