Who Taught You To Hate The United States Postal Service?


"To avoid even the appearance of any impact on election mail, I am suspending these initiatives until after the election is concluded," DeJoy said in a statement. He went on to say that between now and Election Day, retail hours at post offices will not change, no mail processing facilities will be closed, mail processing equipment and collection boxes will remain in place and that overtime for workers will be approved when needed."

All mail-in ballot fear-mongering aside -- I've never understood where this hatred for the post office stems from -- aside from a desire by donors to privatize it -- which I am sure is Louis Dejoy's wet dream...but exactly why do we feel the post office is suppose to turn a profit in order to offer a good service to Americans??

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91% of Americans favorably approve of the Postal Service, that is the highest among any government agency -- and this is the same agency who are forced to fully fund employee pensions 75 years into the future -- and this is who we are complaining about not turning a profit?

It is called the Postal Service in the Constitution for a reason, not to provide a profit to shareholders, but to provide a service to Americans, just like the police department and the fire department -- both of which are not required to make a profit...
Newman on Seinfeld.
 

"To avoid even the appearance of any impact on election mail, I am suspending these initiatives until after the election is concluded," DeJoy said in a statement. He went on to say that between now and Election Day, retail hours at post offices will not change, no mail processing facilities will be closed, mail processing equipment and collection boxes will remain in place and that overtime for workers will be approved when needed."

All mail-in ballot fear-mongering aside -- I've never understood where this hatred for the post office stems from -- aside from a desire by donors to privatize it -- which I am sure is Louis Dejoy's wet dream...but exactly why do we feel the post office is suppose to turn a profit in order to offer a good service to Americans??

View attachment 376548

91% of Americans favorably approve of the Postal Service, that is the highest among any government agency -- and this is the same agency who are forced to fully fund employee pensions 75 years into the future -- and this is who we are complaining about not turning a profit?

It is called the Postal Service in the Constitution for a reason, not to provide a profit to shareholders, but to provide a service to Americans, just like the police department and the fire department -- both of which are not required to make a profit...






Oh, I doubt anyone hates it. I just think we are tired of paying for an organization that can't seem to monitor itself.

As far as the mail in vote, with the USPS abuses we have seen, where postal workers through political literature in the trash, instead of delivering it, I think we have good cause to be concerned.

Don't you?
 
It's a service, and IMO the prices are too damn high as it is. That's what we were discussing before the Postmaster caved yesterday afternoon.
They more than doubled the prices on everything a few years back, to where it's no longer feasible to ship many things.
 

"To avoid even the appearance of any impact on election mail, I am suspending these initiatives until after the election is concluded," DeJoy said in a statement. He went on to say that between now and Election Day, retail hours at post offices will not change, no mail processing facilities will be closed, mail processing equipment and collection boxes will remain in place and that overtime for workers will be approved when needed."

All mail-in ballot fear-mongering aside -- I've never understood where this hatred for the post office stems from -- aside from a desire by donors to privatize it -- which I am sure is Louis Dejoy's wet dream...but exactly why do we feel the post office is suppose to turn a profit in order to offer a good service to Americans??

View attachment 376548

91% of Americans favorably approve of the Postal Service, that is the highest among any government agency -- and this is the same agency who are forced to fully fund employee pensions 75 years into the future -- and this is who we are complaining about not turning a profit?

It is called the Postal Service in the Constitution for a reason, not to provide a profit to shareholders, but to provide a service to Americans, just like the police department and the fire department -- both of which are not required to make a profit...
Who taught me to hate the USPS? Obama did.


that is the most pathetic deflection I have seen in a while....but I expect that from a Trump sycophant...

By the way, remember this Obama quote the next time one of you dumb asses claim Obamacare was a govt takeover of health insurance...you moron

I've always said people give Obama too much credit for having for having any goal aside from his personal success. However, on this point Obama is right that while private carriers have prospered, the USPS has struggled just to survive, and he raises a valid question about just how much do we need the postal service and would the US be better off if we contracted private firms to deliver the mail and allowed the USPS to simply fade away.

are you going to like it if 4-5 different people have access to your box?...and the PO struggles because your congress micromanages it....let them sink or swim on their own....
 

"To avoid even the appearance of any impact on election mail, I am suspending these initiatives until after the election is concluded," DeJoy said in a statement. He went on to say that between now and Election Day, retail hours at post offices will not change, no mail processing facilities will be closed, mail processing equipment and collection boxes will remain in place and that overtime for workers will be approved when needed."

All mail-in ballot fear-mongering aside -- I've never understood where this hatred for the post office stems from -- aside from a desire by donors to privatize it -- which I am sure is Louis Dejoy's wet dream...but exactly why do we feel the post office is suppose to turn a profit in order to offer a good service to Americans??

View attachment 376548

91% of Americans favorably approve of the Postal Service, that is the highest among any government agency -- and this is the same agency who are forced to fully fund employee pensions 75 years into the future -- and this is who we are complaining about not turning a profit?

It is called the Postal Service in the Constitution for a reason, not to provide a profit to shareholders, but to provide a service to Americans, just like the police department and the fire department -- both of which are not required to make a profit...






Oh, I doubt anyone hates it. I just think we are tired of paying for an organization that can't seem to monitor itself.

As far as the mail in vote, with the USPS abuses we have seen, where postal workers through political literature in the trash, instead of delivering it, I think we have good cause to be concerned.

Don't you?
because a few postal employees are fucked all of them are?....thats like saying all cops are like the bad ones we have seen lately...
 

"To avoid even the appearance of any impact on election mail, I am suspending these initiatives until after the election is concluded," DeJoy said in a statement. He went on to say that between now and Election Day, retail hours at post offices will not change, no mail processing facilities will be closed, mail processing equipment and collection boxes will remain in place and that overtime for workers will be approved when needed."

All mail-in ballot fear-mongering aside -- I've never understood where this hatred for the post office stems from -- aside from a desire by donors to privatize it -- which I am sure is Louis Dejoy's wet dream...but exactly why do we feel the post office is suppose to turn a profit in order to offer a good service to Americans??

View attachment 376548

91% of Americans favorably approve of the Postal Service, that is the highest among any government agency -- and this is the same agency who are forced to fully fund employee pensions 75 years into the future -- and this is who we are complaining about not turning a profit?

It is called the Postal Service in the Constitution for a reason, not to provide a profit to shareholders, but to provide a service to Americans, just like the police department and the fire department -- both of which are not required to make a profit...
Who taught me to hate the USPS? Obama did.


that is the most pathetic deflection I have seen in a while....but I expect that from a Trump sycophant...

By the way, remember this Obama quote the next time one of you dumb asses claim Obamacare was a govt takeover of health insurance...you moron

I've always said people give Obama too much credit for having for having any goal aside from his personal success. However, on this point Obama is right that while private carriers have prospered, the USPS has struggled just to survive, and he raises a valid question about just how much do we need the postal service and would the US be better off if we contracted private firms to deliver the mail and allowed the USPS to simply fade away.

are you going to like it if 4-5 different people have access to your box?...and the PO struggles because your congress micromanages it....let them sink or swim on their own....

In my experience, and apparently in Obama's, private carriers do a better job than the USPS does, and I have no more reason to believe postal workers are any more honest that those who work for private carriers, indeed, since private companies can more easily fire dishonest workers and private companies can lose their contracts, there is reason to think there will be less theft and tampering from private carriers than from postal workers. The only thing the USPS has done well in the past is the delivery of first class mail, but today much of that can be safely sent electronically, so I agree with Obama that there really isn't much need for the USPS anymore.
 

"To avoid even the appearance of any impact on election mail, I am suspending these initiatives until after the election is concluded," DeJoy said in a statement. He went on to say that between now and Election Day, retail hours at post offices will not change, no mail processing facilities will be closed, mail processing equipment and collection boxes will remain in place and that overtime for workers will be approved when needed."

All mail-in ballot fear-mongering aside -- I've never understood where this hatred for the post office stems from -- aside from a desire by donors to privatize it -- which I am sure is Louis Dejoy's wet dream...but exactly why do we feel the post office is suppose to turn a profit in order to offer a good service to Americans??

View attachment 376548

91% of Americans favorably approve of the Postal Service, that is the highest among any government agency -- and this is the same agency who are forced to fully fund employee pensions 75 years into the future -- and this is who we are complaining about not turning a profit?

It is called the Postal Service in the Constitution for a reason, not to provide a profit to shareholders, but to provide a service to Americans, just like the police department and the fire department -- both of which are not required to make a profit...
Who taught me to hate the USPS? Obama did.


that is the most pathetic deflection I have seen in a while....but I expect that from a Trump sycophant...

By the way, remember this Obama quote the next time one of you dumb asses claim Obamacare was a govt takeover of health insurance...you moron

I've always said people give Obama too much credit for having for having any goal aside from his personal success. However, on this point Obama is right that while private carriers have prospered, the USPS has struggled just to survive, and he raises a valid question about just how much do we need the postal service and would the US be better off if we contracted private firms to deliver the mail and allowed the USPS to simply fade away.

are you going to like it if 4-5 different people have access to your box?...and the PO struggles because your congress micromanages it....let them sink or swim on their own....

In my experience, and apparently in Obama's, private carriers do a better job than the USPS does, and I have no more reason to believe postal workers are any more honest that those who work for private carriers, indeed, since private companies can more easily fire dishonest workers and private companies can lose their contracts, there is reason to think there will be less theft and tampering from private carriers than from postal workers. The only thing the USPS has done well in the past is the delivery of first class mail, but today much of that can be safely sent electronically, so I agree with Obama that there really isn't much need for the USPS anymore.


There are still a lot of people who don't, or can't, use the Internet. And there are people who live in areas not well-serviced by the private carriers, because it's not profitable. I think there's still a need for the USPS, but with a cut-down, more efficient model and without the insanely-excessive, cushy union contracts.
 

"To avoid even the appearance of any impact on election mail, I am suspending these initiatives until after the election is concluded," DeJoy said in a statement. He went on to say that between now and Election Day, retail hours at post offices will not change, no mail processing facilities will be closed, mail processing equipment and collection boxes will remain in place and that overtime for workers will be approved when needed."

All mail-in ballot fear-mongering aside -- I've never understood where this hatred for the post office stems from -- aside from a desire by donors to privatize it -- which I am sure is Louis Dejoy's wet dream...but exactly why do we feel the post office is suppose to turn a profit in order to offer a good service to Americans??

View attachment 376548

91% of Americans favorably approve of the Postal Service, that is the highest among any government agency -- and this is the same agency who are forced to fully fund employee pensions 75 years into the future -- and this is who we are complaining about not turning a profit?

It is called the Postal Service in the Constitution for a reason, not to provide a profit to shareholders, but to provide a service to Americans, just like the police department and the fire department -- both of which are not required to make a profit...
Who taught me to hate the USPS? Obama did.


that is the most pathetic deflection I have seen in a while....but I expect that from a Trump sycophant...

By the way, remember this Obama quote the next time one of you dumb asses claim Obamacare was a govt takeover of health insurance...you moron

I've always said people give Obama too much credit for having for having any goal aside from his personal success. However, on this point Obama is right that while private carriers have prospered, the USPS has struggled just to survive, and he raises a valid question about just how much do we need the postal service and would the US be better off if we contracted private firms to deliver the mail and allowed the USPS to simply fade away.

are you going to like it if 4-5 different people have access to your box?...and the PO struggles because your congress micromanages it....let them sink or swim on their own....

In my experience, and apparently in Obama's, private carriers do a better job than the USPS does, and I have no more reason to believe postal workers are any more honest that those who work for private carriers, indeed, since private companies can more easily fire dishonest workers and private companies can lose their contracts, there is reason to think there will be less theft and tampering from private carriers than from postal workers. The only thing the USPS has done well in the past is the delivery of first class mail, but today much of that can be safely sent electronically, so I agree with Obama that there really isn't much need for the USPS anymore.

they do as bout as good....and i know this just from talking to the people and businesses i used to deliver too....but anyway like i asked....will you be comfortable with 3-4 people having access to your mail box?.....if one company does it it may be ok.....but multiple?....
 
I don't hate the USPS.

I just don't think it is needed in modern times with the Internet, cell phones, texting etc.

95% of what we get in the mail every day is nothing more than junk mail. The 5% that is useful could be done over the Internet. Private delivery services could be used for the small amount of necessary paper correspondence.

The cost is much too high for the value.

Phase out the USPS and return the money that it cost to the taxpayers.
 

"To avoid even the appearance of any impact on election mail, I am suspending these initiatives until after the election is concluded," DeJoy said in a statement. He went on to say that between now and Election Day, retail hours at post offices will not change, no mail processing facilities will be closed, mail processing equipment and collection boxes will remain in place and that overtime for workers will be approved when needed."

All mail-in ballot fear-mongering aside -- I've never understood where this hatred for the post office stems from -- aside from a desire by donors to privatize it -- which I am sure is Louis Dejoy's wet dream...but exactly why do we feel the post office is suppose to turn a profit in order to offer a good service to Americans??

View attachment 376548

91% of Americans favorably approve of the Postal Service, that is the highest among any government agency -- and this is the same agency who are forced to fully fund employee pensions 75 years into the future -- and this is who we are complaining about not turning a profit?

It is called the Postal Service in the Constitution for a reason, not to provide a profit to shareholders, but to provide a service to Americans, just like the police department and the fire department -- both of which are not required to make a profit...
Who taught me to hate the USPS? Obama did.


that is the most pathetic deflection I have seen in a while....but I expect that from a Trump sycophant...

By the way, remember this Obama quote the next time one of you dumb asses claim Obamacare was a govt takeover of health insurance...you moron

I've always said people give Obama too much credit for having for having any goal aside from his personal success. However, on this point Obama is right that while private carriers have prospered, the USPS has struggled just to survive, and he raises a valid question about just how much do we need the postal service and would the US be better off if we contracted private firms to deliver the mail and allowed the USPS to simply fade away.

are you going to like it if 4-5 different people have access to your box?...and the PO struggles because your congress micromanages it....let them sink or swim on their own....

In my experience, and apparently in Obama's, private carriers do a better job than the USPS does, and I have no more reason to believe postal workers are any more honest that those who work for private carriers, indeed, since private companies can more easily fire dishonest workers and private companies can lose their contracts, there is reason to think there will be less theft and tampering from private carriers than from postal workers. The only thing the USPS has done well in the past is the delivery of first class mail, but today much of that can be safely sent electronically, so I agree with Obama that there really isn't much need for the USPS anymore.

they do as bout as good....and i know this just from talking to the people and businesses i used to deliver too....but anyway like i asked....will you be comfortable with 3-4 people having access to your mail box?.....if one company does it it may be ok.....but multiple?....

Why not? Why would you trust postal workers and not others? Since most of my important mail arrives electronically, it's no big deal, unless, of course, you plan to use the USPS to perpetrate massive voting fraud.
 

"To avoid even the appearance of any impact on election mail, I am suspending these initiatives until after the election is concluded," DeJoy said in a statement. He went on to say that between now and Election Day, retail hours at post offices will not change, no mail processing facilities will be closed, mail processing equipment and collection boxes will remain in place and that overtime for workers will be approved when needed."

All mail-in ballot fear-mongering aside -- I've never understood where this hatred for the post office stems from -- aside from a desire by donors to privatize it -- which I am sure is Louis Dejoy's wet dream...but exactly why do we feel the post office is suppose to turn a profit in order to offer a good service to Americans??

View attachment 376548

91% of Americans favorably approve of the Postal Service, that is the highest among any government agency -- and this is the same agency who are forced to fully fund employee pensions 75 years into the future -- and this is who we are complaining about not turning a profit?

It is called the Postal Service in the Constitution for a reason, not to provide a profit to shareholders, but to provide a service to Americans, just like the police department and the fire department -- both of which are not required to make a profit...
Who taught me to hate the USPS? Obama did.


that is the most pathetic deflection I have seen in a while....but I expect that from a Trump sycophant...

By the way, remember this Obama quote the next time one of you dumb asses claim Obamacare was a govt takeover of health insurance...you moron

I've always said people give Obama too much credit for having for having any goal aside from his personal success. However, on this point Obama is right that while private carriers have prospered, the USPS has struggled just to survive, and he raises a valid question about just how much do we need the postal service and would the US be better off if we contracted private firms to deliver the mail and allowed the USPS to simply fade away.

are you going to like it if 4-5 different people have access to your box?...and the PO struggles because your congress micromanages it....let them sink or swim on their own....

In my experience, and apparently in Obama's, private carriers do a better job than the USPS does, and I have no more reason to believe postal workers are any more honest that those who work for private carriers, indeed, since private companies can more easily fire dishonest workers and private companies can lose their contracts, there is reason to think there will be less theft and tampering from private carriers than from postal workers. The only thing the USPS has done well in the past is the delivery of first class mail, but today much of that can be safely sent electronically, so I agree with Obama that there really isn't much need for the USPS anymore.

they do as bout as good....and i know this just from talking to the people and businesses i used to deliver too....but anyway like i asked....will you be comfortable with 3-4 people having access to your mail box?.....if one company does it it may be ok.....but multiple?....

Why not? Why would you trust postal workers and not others? Since most of my important mail arrives electronically, it's no big deal, unless, of course, you plan to use the USPS to perpetrate massive voting fraud.

im talking if you got a small package that fits in your box.....joes delivery service has something for you,he sees that package and takes it.....no more package....one company and you know who has a key besides you...3 or 4 and you have no idea ....there is a thing call the sanctity of the mail box...
 

"To avoid even the appearance of any impact on election mail, I am suspending these initiatives until after the election is concluded," DeJoy said in a statement. He went on to say that between now and Election Day, retail hours at post offices will not change, no mail processing facilities will be closed, mail processing equipment and collection boxes will remain in place and that overtime for workers will be approved when needed."

All mail-in ballot fear-mongering aside -- I've never understood where this hatred for the post office stems from -- aside from a desire by donors to privatize it -- which I am sure is Louis Dejoy's wet dream...but exactly why do we feel the post office is suppose to turn a profit in order to offer a good service to Americans??

View attachment 376548

91% of Americans favorably approve of the Postal Service, that is the highest among any government agency -- and this is the same agency who are forced to fully fund employee pensions 75 years into the future -- and this is who we are complaining about not turning a profit?

It is called the Postal Service in the Constitution for a reason, not to provide a profit to shareholders, but to provide a service to Americans, just like the police department and the fire department -- both of which are not required to make a profit...
Who taught me to hate the USPS? Obama did.


that is the most pathetic deflection I have seen in a while....but I expect that from a Trump sycophant...

By the way, remember this Obama quote the next time one of you dumb asses claim Obamacare was a govt takeover of health insurance...you moron

I've always said people give Obama too much credit for having for having any goal aside from his personal success. However, on this point Obama is right that while private carriers have prospered, the USPS has struggled just to survive, and he raises a valid question about just how much do we need the postal service and would the US be better off if we contracted private firms to deliver the mail and allowed the USPS to simply fade away.

are you going to like it if 4-5 different people have access to your box?...and the PO struggles because your congress micromanages it....let them sink or swim on their own....

In my experience, and apparently in Obama's, private carriers do a better job than the USPS does, and I have no more reason to believe postal workers are any more honest that those who work for private carriers, indeed, since private companies can more easily fire dishonest workers and private companies can lose their contracts, there is reason to think there will be less theft and tampering from private carriers than from postal workers. The only thing the USPS has done well in the past is the delivery of first class mail, but today much of that can be safely sent electronically, so I agree with Obama that there really isn't much need for the USPS anymore.

they do as bout as good....and i know this just from talking to the people and businesses i used to deliver too....but anyway like i asked....will you be comfortable with 3-4 people having access to your mail box?.....if one company does it it may be ok.....but multiple?....

Why not? Why would you trust postal workers and not others? Since most of my important mail arrives electronically, it's no big deal, unless, of course, you plan to use the USPS to perpetrate massive voting fraud.

im talking if you got a small package that fits in your box.....joes delivery service has something for you,he sees that package and takes it.....no more package....one company and you know who has a key besides you...3 or 4 and you have no idea ....there is a thing call the sanctity of the mail box...

The "sanctity of the mailbox"? Are you referring to the blood oath all mail carriers must take before delivering each day's mail? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are trying to be funny.
 

"To avoid even the appearance of any impact on election mail, I am suspending these initiatives until after the election is concluded," DeJoy said in a statement. He went on to say that between now and Election Day, retail hours at post offices will not change, no mail processing facilities will be closed, mail processing equipment and collection boxes will remain in place and that overtime for workers will be approved when needed."

All mail-in ballot fear-mongering aside -- I've never understood where this hatred for the post office stems from -- aside from a desire by donors to privatize it -- which I am sure is Louis Dejoy's wet dream...but exactly why do we feel the post office is suppose to turn a profit in order to offer a good service to Americans??

View attachment 376548

91% of Americans favorably approve of the Postal Service, that is the highest among any government agency -- and this is the same agency who are forced to fully fund employee pensions 75 years into the future -- and this is who we are complaining about not turning a profit?

It is called the Postal Service in the Constitution for a reason, not to provide a profit to shareholders, but to provide a service to Americans, just like the police department and the fire department -- both of which are not required to make a profit...
Who taught me to hate the USPS? Obama did.


that is the most pathetic deflection I have seen in a while....but I expect that from a Trump sycophant...

By the way, remember this Obama quote the next time one of you dumb asses claim Obamacare was a govt takeover of health insurance...you moron

I've always said people give Obama too much credit for having for having any goal aside from his personal success. However, on this point Obama is right that while private carriers have prospered, the USPS has struggled just to survive, and he raises a valid question about just how much do we need the postal service and would the US be better off if we contracted private firms to deliver the mail and allowed the USPS to simply fade away.

are you going to like it if 4-5 different people have access to your box?...and the PO struggles because your congress micromanages it....let them sink or swim on their own....

In my experience, and apparently in Obama's, private carriers do a better job than the USPS does, and I have no more reason to believe postal workers are any more honest that those who work for private carriers, indeed, since private companies can more easily fire dishonest workers and private companies can lose their contracts, there is reason to think there will be less theft and tampering from private carriers than from postal workers. The only thing the USPS has done well in the past is the delivery of first class mail, but today much of that can be safely sent electronically, so I agree with Obama that there really isn't much need for the USPS anymore.

they do as bout as good....and i know this just from talking to the people and businesses i used to deliver too....but anyway like i asked....will you be comfortable with 3-4 people having access to your mail box?.....if one company does it it may be ok.....but multiple?....

Why not? Why would you trust postal workers and not others? Since most of my important mail arrives electronically, it's no big deal, unless, of course, you plan to use the USPS to perpetrate massive voting fraud.

im talking if you got a small package that fits in your box.....joes delivery service has something for you,he sees that package and takes it.....no more package....one company and you know who has a key besides you...3 or 4 and you have no idea ....there is a thing call the sanctity of the mail box...

The "sanctity of the mailbox"? Are you referring to the blood oath all mail carriers must take before delivering each day's mail? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are trying to be funny.

there is no such oath.....why dont you answer what i asked you?...
 

"To avoid even the appearance of any impact on election mail, I am suspending these initiatives until after the election is concluded," DeJoy said in a statement. He went on to say that between now and Election Day, retail hours at post offices will not change, no mail processing facilities will be closed, mail processing equipment and collection boxes will remain in place and that overtime for workers will be approved when needed."

All mail-in ballot fear-mongering aside -- I've never understood where this hatred for the post office stems from -- aside from a desire by donors to privatize it -- which I am sure is Louis Dejoy's wet dream...but exactly why do we feel the post office is suppose to turn a profit in order to offer a good service to Americans??

View attachment 376548

91% of Americans favorably approve of the Postal Service, that is the highest among any government agency -- and this is the same agency who are forced to fully fund employee pensions 75 years into the future -- and this is who we are complaining about not turning a profit?

It is called the Postal Service in the Constitution for a reason, not to provide a profit to shareholders, but to provide a service to Americans, just like the police department and the fire department -- both of which are not required to make a profit...
Who taught me to hate the USPS? Obama did.


that is the most pathetic deflection I have seen in a while....but I expect that from a Trump sycophant...

By the way, remember this Obama quote the next time one of you dumb asses claim Obamacare was a govt takeover of health insurance...you moron

I've always said people give Obama too much credit for having for having any goal aside from his personal success. However, on this point Obama is right that while private carriers have prospered, the USPS has struggled just to survive, and he raises a valid question about just how much do we need the postal service and would the US be better off if we contracted private firms to deliver the mail and allowed the USPS to simply fade away.

are you going to like it if 4-5 different people have access to your box?...and the PO struggles because your congress micromanages it....let them sink or swim on their own....

In my experience, and apparently in Obama's, private carriers do a better job than the USPS does, and I have no more reason to believe postal workers are any more honest that those who work for private carriers, indeed, since private companies can more easily fire dishonest workers and private companies can lose their contracts, there is reason to think there will be less theft and tampering from private carriers than from postal workers. The only thing the USPS has done well in the past is the delivery of first class mail, but today much of that can be safely sent electronically, so I agree with Obama that there really isn't much need for the USPS anymore.

they do as bout as good....and i know this just from talking to the people and businesses i used to deliver too....but anyway like i asked....will you be comfortable with 3-4 people having access to your mail box?.....if one company does it it may be ok.....but multiple?....

Why not? Why would you trust postal workers and not others? Since most of my important mail arrives electronically, it's no big deal, unless, of course, you plan to use the USPS to perpetrate massive voting fraud.

im talking if you got a small package that fits in your box.....joes delivery service has something for you,he sees that package and takes it.....no more package....one company and you know who has a key besides you...3 or 4 and you have no idea ....there is a thing call the sanctity of the mail box...

The "sanctity of the mailbox"? Are you referring to the blood oath all mail carriers must take before delivering each day's mail? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are trying to be funny.

there is no such oath.....why dont you answer what i asked you?...

You asked a stupid question. I shop online all the time, frequently buying vitamins or other items that come in small packages that are nearly all delivered by private carriers and are delivered right to my door without access to my mailbox, which is mostly filled with junk mail. Except perhaps in some isolated places underserved by private carriers the USPS is simply not needed anymore.
 

"To avoid even the appearance of any impact on election mail, I am suspending these initiatives until after the election is concluded," DeJoy said in a statement. He went on to say that between now and Election Day, retail hours at post offices will not change, no mail processing facilities will be closed, mail processing equipment and collection boxes will remain in place and that overtime for workers will be approved when needed."

All mail-in ballot fear-mongering aside -- I've never understood where this hatred for the post office stems from -- aside from a desire by donors to privatize it -- which I am sure is Louis Dejoy's wet dream...but exactly why do we feel the post office is suppose to turn a profit in order to offer a good service to Americans??

View attachment 376548

91% of Americans favorably approve of the Postal Service, that is the highest among any government agency -- and this is the same agency who are forced to fully fund employee pensions 75 years into the future -- and this is who we are complaining about not turning a profit?

It is called the Postal Service in the Constitution for a reason, not to provide a profit to shareholders, but to provide a service to Americans, just like the police department and the fire department -- both of which are not required to make a profit...
Who taught me to hate the USPS? Obama did.


that is the most pathetic deflection I have seen in a while....but I expect that from a Trump sycophant...

By the way, remember this Obama quote the next time one of you dumb asses claim Obamacare was a govt takeover of health insurance...you moron

I've always said people give Obama too much credit for having for having any goal aside from his personal success. However, on this point Obama is right that while private carriers have prospered, the USPS has struggled just to survive, and he raises a valid question about just how much do we need the postal service and would the US be better off if we contracted private firms to deliver the mail and allowed the USPS to simply fade away.

are you going to like it if 4-5 different people have access to your box?...and the PO struggles because your congress micromanages it....let them sink or swim on their own....

In my experience, and apparently in Obama's, private carriers do a better job than the USPS does, and I have no more reason to believe postal workers are any more honest that those who work for private carriers, indeed, since private companies can more easily fire dishonest workers and private companies can lose their contracts, there is reason to think there will be less theft and tampering from private carriers than from postal workers. The only thing the USPS has done well in the past is the delivery of first class mail, but today much of that can be safely sent electronically, so I agree with Obama that there really isn't much need for the USPS anymore.

they do as bout as good....and i know this just from talking to the people and businesses i used to deliver too....but anyway like i asked....will you be comfortable with 3-4 people having access to your mail box?.....if one company does it it may be ok.....but multiple?....

Why not? Why would you trust postal workers and not others? Since most of my important mail arrives electronically, it's no big deal, unless, of course, you plan to use the USPS to perpetrate massive voting fraud.

im talking if you got a small package that fits in your box.....joes delivery service has something for you,he sees that package and takes it.....no more package....one company and you know who has a key besides you...3 or 4 and you have no idea ....there is a thing call the sanctity of the mail box...

The "sanctity of the mailbox"? Are you referring to the blood oath all mail carriers must take before delivering each day's mail? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are trying to be funny.

there is no such oath.....why dont you answer what i asked you?...

You asked a stupid question. I shop online all the time, frequently buying vitamins or other items that come in small packages that are nearly all delivered by private carriers and are delivered right to my door without access to my mailbox, which is mostly filled with junk mail. Except perhaps in some isolated places underserved by private carriers the USPS is simply not needed anymore.

its not a stupid question....the only reason they bring it to your door is because they are not allowed to use the boxes.....you dont think if they can now access those boxes the carrier wont use them?...if you do you are pretty naive....
 

"To avoid even the appearance of any impact on election mail, I am suspending these initiatives until after the election is concluded," DeJoy said in a statement. He went on to say that between now and Election Day, retail hours at post offices will not change, no mail processing facilities will be closed, mail processing equipment and collection boxes will remain in place and that overtime for workers will be approved when needed."

All mail-in ballot fear-mongering aside -- I've never understood where this hatred for the post office stems from -- aside from a desire by donors to privatize it -- which I am sure is Louis Dejoy's wet dream...but exactly why do we feel the post office is suppose to turn a profit in order to offer a good service to Americans??

View attachment 376548

91% of Americans favorably approve of the Postal Service, that is the highest among any government agency -- and this is the same agency who are forced to fully fund employee pensions 75 years into the future -- and this is who we are complaining about not turning a profit?

It is called the Postal Service in the Constitution for a reason, not to provide a profit to shareholders, but to provide a service to Americans, just like the police department and the fire department -- both of which are not required to make a profit...
Who taught me to hate the USPS? Obama did.


that is the most pathetic deflection I have seen in a while....but I expect that from a Trump sycophant...

By the way, remember this Obama quote the next time one of you dumb asses claim Obamacare was a govt takeover of health insurance...you moron

I've always said people give Obama too much credit for having for having any goal aside from his personal success. However, on this point Obama is right that while private carriers have prospered, the USPS has struggled just to survive, and he raises a valid question about just how much do we need the postal service and would the US be better off if we contracted private firms to deliver the mail and allowed the USPS to simply fade away.

are you going to like it if 4-5 different people have access to your box?...and the PO struggles because your congress micromanages it....let them sink or swim on their own....

In my experience, and apparently in Obama's, private carriers do a better job than the USPS does, and I have no more reason to believe postal workers are any more honest that those who work for private carriers, indeed, since private companies can more easily fire dishonest workers and private companies can lose their contracts, there is reason to think there will be less theft and tampering from private carriers than from postal workers. The only thing the USPS has done well in the past is the delivery of first class mail, but today much of that can be safely sent electronically, so I agree with Obama that there really isn't much need for the USPS anymore.

they do as bout as good....and i know this just from talking to the people and businesses i used to deliver too....but anyway like i asked....will you be comfortable with 3-4 people having access to your mail box?.....if one company does it it may be ok.....but multiple?....

Why not? Why would you trust postal workers and not others? Since most of my important mail arrives electronically, it's no big deal, unless, of course, you plan to use the USPS to perpetrate massive voting fraud.

im talking if you got a small package that fits in your box.....joes delivery service has something for you,he sees that package and takes it.....no more package....one company and you know who has a key besides you...3 or 4 and you have no idea ....there is a thing call the sanctity of the mail box...

The "sanctity of the mailbox"? Are you referring to the blood oath all mail carriers must take before delivering each day's mail? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are trying to be funny.

there is no such oath.....why dont you answer what i asked you?...

You asked a stupid question. I shop online all the time, frequently buying vitamins or other items that come in small packages that are nearly all delivered by private carriers and are delivered right to my door without access to my mailbox, which is mostly filled with junk mail. Except perhaps in some isolated places underserved by private carriers the USPS is simply not needed anymore.

its not a stupid question....the only reason they bring it to your door is because they are not allowed to use the boxes.....you dont think if they can now access those boxes the carrier wont use them?...if you do you are pretty naive....

lol There is no reason to use the mailbox.
 

"To avoid even the appearance of any impact on election mail, I am suspending these initiatives until after the election is concluded," DeJoy said in a statement. He went on to say that between now and Election Day, retail hours at post offices will not change, no mail processing facilities will be closed, mail processing equipment and collection boxes will remain in place and that overtime for workers will be approved when needed."

All mail-in ballot fear-mongering aside -- I've never understood where this hatred for the post office stems from -- aside from a desire by donors to privatize it -- which I am sure is Louis Dejoy's wet dream...but exactly why do we feel the post office is suppose to turn a profit in order to offer a good service to Americans??

View attachment 376548

91% of Americans favorably approve of the Postal Service, that is the highest among any government agency -- and this is the same agency who are forced to fully fund employee pensions 75 years into the future -- and this is who we are complaining about not turning a profit?

It is called the Postal Service in the Constitution for a reason, not to provide a profit to shareholders, but to provide a service to Americans, just like the police department and the fire department -- both of which are not required to make a profit...
Who taught me to hate the USPS? Obama did.


that is the most pathetic deflection I have seen in a while....but I expect that from a Trump sycophant...

By the way, remember this Obama quote the next time one of you dumb asses claim Obamacare was a govt takeover of health insurance...you moron

I've always said people give Obama too much credit for having for having any goal aside from his personal success. However, on this point Obama is right that while private carriers have prospered, the USPS has struggled just to survive, and he raises a valid question about just how much do we need the postal service and would the US be better off if we contracted private firms to deliver the mail and allowed the USPS to simply fade away.

are you going to like it if 4-5 different people have access to your box?...and the PO struggles because your congress micromanages it....let them sink or swim on their own....

In my experience, and apparently in Obama's, private carriers do a better job than the USPS does, and I have no more reason to believe postal workers are any more honest that those who work for private carriers, indeed, since private companies can more easily fire dishonest workers and private companies can lose their contracts, there is reason to think there will be less theft and tampering from private carriers than from postal workers. The only thing the USPS has done well in the past is the delivery of first class mail, but today much of that can be safely sent electronically, so I agree with Obama that there really isn't much need for the USPS anymore.

they do as bout as good....and i know this just from talking to the people and businesses i used to deliver too....but anyway like i asked....will you be comfortable with 3-4 people having access to your mail box?.....if one company does it it may be ok.....but multiple?....

Why not? Why would you trust postal workers and not others? Since most of my important mail arrives electronically, it's no big deal, unless, of course, you plan to use the USPS to perpetrate massive voting fraud.

im talking if you got a small package that fits in your box.....joes delivery service has something for you,he sees that package and takes it.....no more package....one company and you know who has a key besides you...3 or 4 and you have no idea ....there is a thing call the sanctity of the mail box...

The "sanctity of the mailbox"? Are you referring to the blood oath all mail carriers must take before delivering each day's mail? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are trying to be funny.

there is no such oath.....why dont you answer what i asked you?...

You asked a stupid question. I shop online all the time, frequently buying vitamins or other items that come in small packages that are nearly all delivered by private carriers and are delivered right to my door without access to my mailbox, which is mostly filled with junk mail. Except perhaps in some isolated places underserved by private carriers the USPS is simply not needed anymore.

its not a stupid question....the only reason they bring it to your door is because they are not allowed to use the boxes.....you dont think if they can now access those boxes the carrier wont use them?...if you do you are pretty naive....

lol There is no reason to use the mailbox.

you dont think so....the person doing the delivery may have a different opinion.....its faster and saves him lots of time, jump out throw it in a box....especially at apts or condo complexes....and if the weather is bad at the time even better....
 

"To avoid even the appearance of any impact on election mail, I am suspending these initiatives until after the election is concluded," DeJoy said in a statement. He went on to say that between now and Election Day, retail hours at post offices will not change, no mail processing facilities will be closed, mail processing equipment and collection boxes will remain in place and that overtime for workers will be approved when needed."

All mail-in ballot fear-mongering aside -- I've never understood where this hatred for the post office stems from -- aside from a desire by donors to privatize it -- which I am sure is Louis Dejoy's wet dream...but exactly why do we feel the post office is suppose to turn a profit in order to offer a good service to Americans??

View attachment 376548

91% of Americans favorably approve of the Postal Service, that is the highest among any government agency -- and this is the same agency who are forced to fully fund employee pensions 75 years into the future -- and this is who we are complaining about not turning a profit?

It is called the Postal Service in the Constitution for a reason, not to provide a profit to shareholders, but to provide a service to Americans, just like the police department and the fire department -- both of which are not required to make a profit...
Who taught me to hate the USPS? Obama did.


that is the most pathetic deflection I have seen in a while....but I expect that from a Trump sycophant...

By the way, remember this Obama quote the next time one of you dumb asses claim Obamacare was a govt takeover of health insurance...you moron

I've always said people give Obama too much credit for having for having any goal aside from his personal success. However, on this point Obama is right that while private carriers have prospered, the USPS has struggled just to survive, and he raises a valid question about just how much do we need the postal service and would the US be better off if we contracted private firms to deliver the mail and allowed the USPS to simply fade away.

are you going to like it if 4-5 different people have access to your box?...and the PO struggles because your congress micromanages it....let them sink or swim on their own....

In my experience, and apparently in Obama's, private carriers do a better job than the USPS does, and I have no more reason to believe postal workers are any more honest that those who work for private carriers, indeed, since private companies can more easily fire dishonest workers and private companies can lose their contracts, there is reason to think there will be less theft and tampering from private carriers than from postal workers. The only thing the USPS has done well in the past is the delivery of first class mail, but today much of that can be safely sent electronically, so I agree with Obama that there really isn't much need for the USPS anymore.

they do as bout as good....and i know this just from talking to the people and businesses i used to deliver too....but anyway like i asked....will you be comfortable with 3-4 people having access to your mail box?.....if one company does it it may be ok.....but multiple?....

Why not? Why would you trust postal workers and not others? Since most of my important mail arrives electronically, it's no big deal, unless, of course, you plan to use the USPS to perpetrate massive voting fraud.

im talking if you got a small package that fits in your box.....joes delivery service has something for you,he sees that package and takes it.....no more package....one company and you know who has a key besides you...3 or 4 and you have no idea ....there is a thing call the sanctity of the mail box...

The "sanctity of the mailbox"? Are you referring to the blood oath all mail carriers must take before delivering each day's mail? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are trying to be funny.

there is no such oath.....why dont you answer what i asked you?...

You asked a stupid question. I shop online all the time, frequently buying vitamins or other items that come in small packages that are nearly all delivered by private carriers and are delivered right to my door without access to my mailbox, which is mostly filled with junk mail. Except perhaps in some isolated places underserved by private carriers the USPS is simply not needed anymore.

its not a stupid question....the only reason they bring it to your door is because they are not allowed to use the boxes.....you dont think if they can now access those boxes the carrier wont use them?...if you do you are pretty naive....

lol There is no reason to use the mailbox.

you dont think so....the person doing the delivery may have a different opinion.....its faster and saves him lots of time, jump out throw it in a box....especially at apts or condo complexes....and if the weather is bad at the time even better....

The point you seem to be making is that I get better service without the mailbox, since the package comes right to my door. And in the event of a broken or missing package, customer service at private carriers is much better than at the USPS. The only thing the USPS ever did well was deliver first class mail, and soon that will all be done electronically. Instead of a mailbox, you will have an cell phone or other electronic device that can receive emails securely and all you packages will be delivered right to your door.
 

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