Why are conservatives clueless about our Constitution?

[Uncensored2008]

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Now how the fuck can you have a well regulated militia if you have no idea what kind of weapons they have?

Well regulated simply means well armed, shitflinger.

You know absolutely nothing about the Constitution, zip, zilch.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

What is trolling about expecting our legislators to be able to compromise?
It used to be an American value

You claim that conservatives are "clueless" about a document you have never read and are dedicated to destroying - whilst misattributing elements to the document.

Transcript of the Constitution of the United States - Official Text

Find me the word "compromise" in there, shitflinger.

The framework of our government cannot function without compromise

Barring compromise you get GRIDLOCK.......far from what our founders envisioned

You already admitted the democrats refuse to compromise, you already admitted that what you mean is the Republicans should do what the democrats want. I provided the fact that over 300 bills from the House were ignored Reid most of them with dem support in the House about 80 of them dem created bills.And your respons was damn right.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

“And , of course, "compromise" means accepting fascism and socialism as our economic system. Taxpayers must feed you, provide health insurance you, clothe you and quench your thirst.”

Don't know about 'compromise' but we could all do without this sort of inane, ignorant, and ridiculous hyperbole.

I notice you did not comment when Rightwinger announced that yes in fact the dems should do nothing on ANY bill unless they sponsored it.

 

[Broncho4]

They aren't "clueless" exactly...they just think the founders stopped writing after the 2nd Amendment...and only the 1st part of the 2nd Amendment. They pretend the "well regulated" part wasn't written.

The term "well regulated" refers to the mechanism for proper functioning. A well regulated engine, being essential to the proper function of an automobile, the right of these morons to change their oil, shall not be infringed.

Hope that helps!

How does a militia function properly?

Command structure, training, registered and well maintained weapons, members in good physical condition

Prepared for that gun owners?

Where does any document about the Militia say their weapons have to be registered?

Now how the fuck can you have a well regulated militia if you have no idea what kind of weapons they have?

Why do you want to control everyone? Who is "you" in your post? "If you have no idea what kind of weapons they have?" Why is it always "us and them" in the world of Liberal ideology?

 

[Rocko]

What is trolling about expecting our legislators to be able to compromise?
It used to be an American value

You claim that conservatives are "clueless" about a document you have never read and are dedicated to destroying - whilst misattributing elements to the document.

Transcript of the Constitution of the United States - Official Text

Find me the word "compromise" in there, shitflinger.

The framework of our government cannot function without compromise

Barring compromise you get GRIDLOCK.......far from what our founders envisioned

Gridlock is good, it should be very tough to pass legislation. Furthermore you putting the lack of compromise in our government all on republicans is a complete joke. You can't tell us one thing this administration has compromised on.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

What is trolling about expecting our legislators to be able to compromise?
It used to be an American value

You claim that conservatives are "clueless" about a document you have never read and are dedicated to destroying - whilst misattributing elements to the document.

Transcript of the Constitution of the United States - Official Text

Find me the word "compromise" in there, shitflinger.

The framework of our government cannot function without compromise

Barring compromise you get GRIDLOCK.......far from what our founders envisioned

Gridlock is good, it should be very tough to pass legislation. Furthermore you putting the lack of compromise in our government all on republicans is a complete joke. You can't tell us one thing this administration has compromised on.

He already admitted in this thread that the only thing Democrats should agree to is what they want but complains that republicans won't compromise.

 

[turtledude]

They aren't "clueless" exactly...they just think the founders stopped writing after the 2nd Amendment...and only the 1st part of the 2nd Amendment. They pretend the "well regulated" part wasn't written.

The term "well regulated" refers to the mechanism for proper functioning. A well regulated engine, being essential to the proper function of an automobile, the right of these morons to change their oil, shall not be infringed.

Hope that helps!

How does a militia function properly?

Command structure, training, registered and well maintained weapons, members in good physical condition

Prepared for that gun owners?

Where does any document about the Militia say their weapons have to be registered?

Now how the fuck can you have a well regulated militia if you have no idea what kind of weapons they have?

I believe the government unit that calls up a militia can require those answering the call to have say uniform weapons (for example specifying a certain caliber or ball size)

however, that has nothing to do with private citizens having privately owned arms registered

its more like saying if you join the militia, the government can tell you what color uniform to wear but it has no business how you dress when you aren't in service

 

[Billy000]

Americans' Top Critique of GOP: "Unwilling to Compromise"

poor seabytch, we dont believe in her life style so we are unwilling to compromise. Where are all the compromising fags? you fags dont compromise on anything.

Your bigotry is pathetic.

 

[Dad2three]

Let's face it, the majority of the far-right are not that bright. There only understanding of the Constitution is what Fox news spoon feeds them.

most members of the far right (whatever that means in the mind of a leftwing Obama slurper such as you) are much smarter than Obama fluffers who depend on government to feed and clothe them

Among the 254 counties where food stamp recipients doubled between 2007 and 2011, Republican Mitt Romney won 213 of them in last year’s presidential election, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data compiled by Bloomberg. Kentucky’s Owsley County, which backed Romney with 81 percent of its vote, has the largest proportion of food stamp recipients among those that he carried.


Food Stamp Cut Backed by Republicans With Voters on Rolls - Bloomberg

Red States Mostly Welfare States Dependent On Blue States But Likely Too Uninformed to Know
Red States Mostly Welfare States Dependent On Blue States But Likely Too Uninformed to Know

that proves nothing but what does matter is the ethnic group with the lowest average IQ and lowest rate of educational achievement voted for Obola Nairobi at rates of 96%

Got it, just another proud KKKGOP voter you are

 

[turtledude]

Let's face it, the majority of the far-right are not that bright. There only understanding of the Constitution is what Fox news spoon feeds them.

most members of the far right (whatever that means in the mind of a leftwing Obama slurper such as you) are much smarter than Obama fluffers who depend on government to feed and clothe them

Among the 254 counties where food stamp recipients doubled between 2007 and 2011, Republican Mitt Romney won 213 of them in last year’s presidential election, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data compiled by Bloomberg. Kentucky’s Owsley County, which backed Romney with 81 percent of its vote, has the largest proportion of food stamp recipients among those that he carried.


Food Stamp Cut Backed by Republicans With Voters on Rolls - Bloomberg

Red States Mostly Welfare States Dependent On Blue States But Likely Too Uninformed to Know
Red States Mostly Welfare States Dependent On Blue States But Likely Too Uninformed to Know

that proves nothing but what does matter is the ethnic group with the lowest average IQ and lowest rate of educational achievement voted for Obola Nairobi at rates of 96%

Got it, just another proud KKKGOP voter you are

when suckers of the public tit get their ass handed to them by those of us who are actually NET tax payers, the first thing such suckers do is call us racist


Guess what whiner Its not my duty to pay for your cretinous spawn.

 

[Dad2three]

Congressman Keith Rothfus Press Releases Rothfus The House Has Acted But The Senate Has Not

Read this and weep. over 200 bills in the Senate either passed unanimously or with no opposition, were sponsored by democrats or passed with democratic support and are being ignored by Reid. So much for Rightwingers claim that Reid is so smart.

Sorry Bubba, having 2-3 red dog Dems, ISN'T 'support'

Did you READ the link it was more than a couple dems. Hell about 80 of the bills were proposed by democrats and over 100 had no opposition at all.

Get serious, stop lying

Are these bills "sitting on Harry Reid’s desk awaiting action"?

Resolving this claim is murkier.

First, a technical problem. It’s an oversimplification to say that these bills are "sitting on Harry Reid’s desk."

Another complication: In at least some cases, the Senate is working on a bill on the same topic, but without using the House bill as a starting point.

We should also note that in the Senate, one member -- either from the majority or the minority -- can stop a bill in its tracks by threatening to filibuster -- a delay that requires 60 votes to break.

"There's plenty of blame to go around," said Donald Wolfensberger, a former Republican House aide now studying Congress at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars.


Do the House-passed, Senate-stalled bills include 55 introduced by Democrats?

On the number, Jenkins is basically right -- we counted 54. But if this statistic is intended to communicate how generously the House treats its minority caucus, Jenkins’ talking point is somewhat overblown.

Unlike the Senate, where the minority party and individual lawmakers hold notable leverage, the House is structured -- regardless of which party is in power -- as a tyranny of the majority. Whoever has the most votes and holds the Speaker’s gavel determines which bills get considered, and precisely how they get considered. Minority-party preferences are granted, if at all, as a favor from the majority.


The number of Democratic-sponsored bills Jenkins mentions -- 55 -- accounts for just 16 percent of all House-passed bills now awaiting consideration in the Senate. But even that figure is misleadingly high.


So House bipartisanship lives, but let’s not oversell it.

Why the numbers don’t tell the whole story

Experts say this bill counting merits a grain of salt. ....

Meanwhile, many of the other bills that pass the House in today’s environment are bills that are intended to make a statement, not a law.


Ultimately, Jenkins places all the blame on the Democrats and the Senate, but experts agree that it takes two to tango. Both parties and chambers have played a role in creating the current legislative dysfunction. On balance, we rate the claim Half True.

Rep. Lynn Jenkins blames Harry Reid for do-nothing Senate PolitiFact

 

[Dad2three]

Let's face it, the majority of the far-right are not that bright. There only understanding of the Constitution is what Fox news spoon feeds them.

most members of the far right (whatever that means in the mind of a leftwing Obama slurper such as you) are much smarter than Obama fluffers who depend on government to feed and clothe them

Among the 254 counties where food stamp recipients doubled between 2007 and 2011, Republican Mitt Romney won 213 of them in last year’s presidential election, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data compiled by Bloomberg. Kentucky’s Owsley County, which backed Romney with 81 percent of its vote, has the largest proportion of food stamp recipients among those that he carried.


Food Stamp Cut Backed by Republicans With Voters on Rolls - Bloomberg

Red States Mostly Welfare States Dependent On Blue States But Likely Too Uninformed to Know
Red States Mostly Welfare States Dependent On Blue States But Likely Too Uninformed to Know

that proves nothing but what does matter is the ethnic group with the lowest average IQ and lowest rate of educational achievement voted for Obola Nairobi at rates of 96%

Got it, just another proud KKKGOP voter you are

when suckers of the public tit get their ass handed to them by those of us who are actually NET tax payers, the first thing such suckers do is call us racist


Guess what whiner Its not my duty to pay for your cretinous spawn.

lol, Keep bellieving that nonsense

ONCE MORE:


Red States Mostly Welfare States Dependent On Blue States But Likely Too Uninformed to Know

Red States Mostly Welfare States Dependent On Blue States But Likely Too Uninformed to Know


Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala A theory of a divided nation

In the red states, government is cheaper, which means the people who live there pay lower taxes. But they also get a lot less in return. The unemployment checks run out more quickly and the schools generally aren’t as good. Assistance with health care, child care, and housing is skimpier, if it exists at all. The result of this divergence is that one half of the country looks more and more like Scandinavia, while the other increasingly resembles a social Darwinist’s paradise.


Blue States are from Scandinavia Red States are from Guatemala New Republic

 

[turtledude]

most members of the far right (whatever that means in the mind of a leftwing Obama slurper such as you) are much smarter than Obama fluffers who depend on government to feed and clothe them

Among the 254 counties where food stamp recipients doubled between 2007 and 2011, Republican Mitt Romney won 213 of them in last year’s presidential election, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data compiled by Bloomberg. Kentucky’s Owsley County, which backed Romney with 81 percent of its vote, has the largest proportion of food stamp recipients among those that he carried.


Food Stamp Cut Backed by Republicans With Voters on Rolls - Bloomberg

Red States Mostly Welfare States Dependent On Blue States But Likely Too Uninformed to Know
Red States Mostly Welfare States Dependent On Blue States But Likely Too Uninformed to Know

that proves nothing but what does matter is the ethnic group with the lowest average IQ and lowest rate of educational achievement voted for Obola Nairobi at rates of 96%

Got it, just another proud KKKGOP voter you are

when suckers of the public tit get their ass handed to them by those of us who are actually NET tax payers, the first thing such suckers do is call us racist


Guess what whiner Its not my duty to pay for your cretinous spawn.

lol, Keep bellieving that nonsense

ONCE MORE:


Red States Mostly Welfare States Dependent On Blue States But Likely Too Uninformed to Know

Red States Mostly Welfare States Dependent On Blue States But Likely Too Uninformed to Know


Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala A theory of a divided nation

In the red states, government is cheaper, which means the people who live there pay lower taxes. But they also get a lot less in return. The unemployment checks run out more quickly and the schools generally aren’t as good. Assistance with health care, child care, and housing is skimpier, if it exists at all. The result of this divergence is that one half of the country looks more and more like Scandinavia, while the other increasingly resembles a social Darwinist’s paradise.


Blue States are from Scandinavia Red States are from Guatemala New Republic

Only a moron like you would believe RED States have no Dem voters and vice versa

DO A SEARCH of where the RICHEST GOP supporters live

WESTCHESTER COUNTY NY, ORANGE COUNTY CALIFORNIA. Parts of BOSTON, HARTFORD CT, UPPER EAST SIDE NY etc

 

[Dad2three]

Among the 254 counties where food stamp recipients doubled between 2007 and 2011, Republican Mitt Romney won 213 of them in last year’s presidential election, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data compiled by Bloomberg. Kentucky’s Owsley County, which backed Romney with 81 percent of its vote, has the largest proportion of food stamp recipients among those that he carried.


Food Stamp Cut Backed by Republicans With Voters on Rolls - Bloomberg

Red States Mostly Welfare States Dependent On Blue States But Likely Too Uninformed to Know
Red States Mostly Welfare States Dependent On Blue States But Likely Too Uninformed to Know

that proves nothing but what does matter is the ethnic group with the lowest average IQ and lowest rate of educational achievement voted for Obola Nairobi at rates of 96%

Got it, just another proud KKKGOP voter you are

when suckers of the public tit get their ass handed to them by those of us who are actually NET tax payers, the first thing such suckers do is call us racist


Guess what whiner Its not my duty to pay for your cretinous spawn.

lol, Keep bellieving that nonsense

ONCE MORE:


Red States Mostly Welfare States Dependent On Blue States But Likely Too Uninformed to Know

Red States Mostly Welfare States Dependent On Blue States But Likely Too Uninformed to Know


Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala A theory of a divided nation

In the red states, government is cheaper, which means the people who live there pay lower taxes. But they also get a lot less in return. The unemployment checks run out more quickly and the schools generally aren’t as good. Assistance with health care, child care, and housing is skimpier, if it exists at all. The result of this divergence is that one half of the country looks more and more like Scandinavia, while the other increasingly resembles a social Darwinist’s paradise.


Blue States are from Scandinavia Red States are from Guatemala New Republic

Only a moron like you would believe RED States have no Dem voters and vice versa

DO A SEARCH of where the RICHEST GOP supporters live

WESTCHESTER COUNTY NY, ORANGE COUNTY CALIFORNIA. Parts of BOSTON, HARTFORD CT, UPPER EAST SIDE NY etc

Weird

ONCE MORE

Among the 254 counties where food stamp recipients doubled between 2007 and 2011, Republican Mitt Romney won 213 of them in last year’s presidential election, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data compiled by Bloomberg. Kentucky’s Owsley County, which backed Romney with 81 percent of its vote, has the largest proportion of food stamp recipients among those that he carried.

Food Stamp Cut Backed by Republicans With Voters on Rolls - Bloomberg


LOOK TO CITIES, LIKE CALI WHERE I AM AT, Inland areas like Modesto, Fresno, Bakersfield are shitholes that vote GOP and the coastal areas have the money and vote Dems. Hmm?

 

[teapartysamurai]

Conservatives wrap themselves in the Constitution and act like they are the only ones concerned with the founders principles in crafting this great document

The key component of our Constitution that Conservatives have declared war on is the idea of compromise. Our founders created a form of governent that was built on the assumption that there would be compromise. Congressmen and Senators must compromise with each other to craft a bill and get it passed....

I will give you this if you will give me that

That is how our government has functioned for hundreds of years. Instead, Conservatives have instituted a policy of....If I don't get my way, nothing will get done

That attitude is an insult to our founders who formed our very government out of compromise

This is pretty funny coming from the people who voted for a President who said he would NOT compromise.

Remember Obama telling Republicans they have to "sit in the back?"

Obama Tells GOP Get In Back Obama Get In Back Video Mediaite

Or Obama threatening his pen over and over because he couldn't get his two year old way with Republicans???

Obama On Executive Actions 8216 I 8217 ve Got A Pen And I 8217 ve Got A Phone 8217 CBS DC

But now liberals want to whine and moan about "compromise?"

That's hilarious! You liberals are such liars!

On what do you want to compromise? Abortion? Obamacare? Ebola? Closing the border?

Exactly WHAT do you want to compromise on? You don't!

When liberals whine about "compromise" they mean conservatives have to compromise.

LIBERALS NEVER EVER COMPROMISE ON ANYTHING THEY WANT.

So, cram your phony compromise meme, until you're willing to compromise from your side of things.

Tell us what you are willing to compromise on?

I expect crickets from liberals on this!

 

[turtledude]

that proves nothing but what does matter is the ethnic group with the lowest average IQ and lowest rate of educational achievement voted for Obola Nairobi at rates of 96%

Got it, just another proud KKKGOP voter you are

when suckers of the public tit get their ass handed to them by those of us who are actually NET tax payers, the first thing such suckers do is call us racist


Guess what whiner Its not my duty to pay for your cretinous spawn.

lol, Keep bellieving that nonsense

ONCE MORE:


Red States Mostly Welfare States Dependent On Blue States But Likely Too Uninformed to Know

Red States Mostly Welfare States Dependent On Blue States But Likely Too Uninformed to Know


Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala A theory of a divided nation

In the red states, government is cheaper, which means the people who live there pay lower taxes. But they also get a lot less in return. The unemployment checks run out more quickly and the schools generally aren’t as good. Assistance with health care, child care, and housing is skimpier, if it exists at all. The result of this divergence is that one half of the country looks more and more like Scandinavia, while the other increasingly resembles a social Darwinist’s paradise.


Blue States are from Scandinavia Red States are from Guatemala New Republic

Only a moron like you would believe RED States have no Dem voters and vice versa

DO A SEARCH of where the RICHEST GOP supporters live

WESTCHESTER COUNTY NY, ORANGE COUNTY CALIFORNIA. Parts of BOSTON, HARTFORD CT, UPPER EAST SIDE NY etc

Weird

ONCE MORE

Among the 254 counties where food stamp recipients doubled between 2007 and 2011, Republican Mitt Romney won 213 of them in last year’s presidential election, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture data compiled by Bloomberg. Kentucky’s Owsley County, which backed Romney with 81 percent of its vote, has the largest proportion of food stamp recipients among those that he carried.

Food Stamp Cut Backed by Republicans With Voters on Rolls - Bloomberg


LOOK TO CITIES, LIKE CALI WHERE I AM AT, Inland areas like Modesto, Fresno, Bakersfield are shitholes that vote GOP and the coastal areas have the money and vote Dems. Hmm?

so tell me teat suckler--why do the DEMS Cater to the TEAT SUCKERS and the GOP CATERS TO us NET TAX PAYERS (last year my federal tax bill was over 400K)

 

[Little-Acorn]

Our founders created a form of governent that was built on the assumption that there would be compromise. Congressmen and Senators must compromise with each other to craft a bill and get it passed....
I will give you this if you will give me that

This is a laughably false assumption.

The truth is, the founders designed the Constitution so that no laws would be passed unless three different groups, with three different sets of interests and loyalties, all agreed that it was needed. If even one group didn't want it, it was discarded.

The three groups were:

1.) Citizen-legislators who were loyal to their communities, and who would serve only briefly before going back to their real lives (House);
2.) Professional politicians appointed by their states whose loyalties were to see that states maintained power and the Federal government remained limited (Senate);
3.) A citizen of high character and integrity who had no legislative power but could stop laws he thought were wrong or unnecessary (President).

The reason the founders designed it that way, was because they assumed that free men pretty much didn't need laws to live and prosper. Only laws that were obvious (laws forbidding murder, assault, fraud, theft etc.; laws mandating standards for measurement, money etc.) would be passed. In all other matters, men were free to do what they wanted, and it was up to them to figure out how best to prosper and provide for themselves, their families, and their communities, as long as they didn't venture into the realm of those obvious laws.

The basic assumption the Founders made, was that laws were necessary evils that took away freedom and inhibited people from using their better judgment; and that only laws that EVERYONE thought were necessary, should be passed. Which were relatively few.
The idea of compromise, goes directly AGAINST that basic assumption, and in fact is destructive. It causes people to make laws that some of them disagree with: Laws the founders knew should NOT be imposed upon a free people.

The founders deliberately set up a government that had great difficulty in passing laws. If one group didn't like the law, it was toast.

And that's a good thing.

Only people who are willing to ignore the bad effects of laws (they override the better judgment of the people who are there on the spot and working for their families' and communities' own good), could possibly think that the kind of compromise the OP mentions is desirable. They are our chronic big-government addicts, who believe that a remote, detached, bureaucratic government can somehow make better decisions that the people directly involved who must live with the consequences of those decisions.

The obvious laws I described, produce far more benefit than harm. No compromise is needed to see that they should be passed.

Laws that require compromise, usually do more harm than good, and should NOT be passed. That's why the Founders designed such a cranky, cantankerous government,that has three ways to stop a law but only one way to pass it.

If a law is proposed that most of an entire group of legislators think are bad, we are probably better off without it.

This, of course, flies in the face of the big-govt addicts who think government is wiser than free citizens and more and more restrictions are good. They are wrong on both counts.

The "you vote for my law even if you don't like it, and I will vote for yours later even if I don't like that" attitude, is exactly what the founders wanted to avoid. And for good reason.

 

[Truman123]

If Charlton Heston had made a movie about it they'd understand...

 

[Little-Acorn]

If Charlton Heston had made a movie about it they'd understand...

Looks like the liberals are afraid to discuss the topic of the thread (Was the Constitution designed with compromise in mind?).

Nothing but "gothca" posts, lies, insults, etc., the usual liberal fare.

 

[Statistikhengst]

If Charlton Heston had made a movie about it they'd understand...

Looks like the liberals are afraid to discuss the topic of the thread (Was the Constitution designed with compromise in mind?).

Nothing but "gothca" posts, lies, insults, etc., the usual liberal fare.

Oh, someone cannot read. Another Rightie who cannot read. I am shocked.

The OP title is:

"Why are Conservatives clueless about our Constitution"

Glad I could help. Now, go play with the other Kindergardners.