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So a day in the bible isn't a day?
So anyways, how does evolution fit in if the bible says that man was made out of dust? Man just plopped down, then evolved?
stardust...carbon
as with all life, we all began from star dust.
If religion is not science- then why do religious nuts always post in the scientific and logic forum, rather than the religion forum? I find it amusing that certain die hard gung-ho religious fanatics (who are really probably just anti-truth people, seeking a justification for it or something) sit here screaming about how nobody here seems to understand anything they say, and look at all the religion- its religion, its religion- and all this is taking place (by their own choice) in a SCIENCE forum.If evolution is not a religion- then why do evolutionists always post in the religion and ethics forum, rather than the science forum? I find it amusing that certain die-hard gung-ho evolutionists (who are really probably just anti god people, seeking a justification for it or something) sit here screaming about how nobody here seems to understand anything they say, and look at all the science- its science, its science- and all this is taking place (by their own choice) in the RELIGION forum.
you mean with the slavery and the stonings and things? yeah. great.The Bible offers up a great way to live your life. Why would you dispute that?
So a day in the bible isn't a day?
So anyways, how does evolution fit in if the bible says that man was made out of dust? Man just plopped down, then evolved?
stardust...carbon
as with all life, we all began from star dust.
Thus spoke Moby:
If evolution is not a religion- then why do evolutionists always post in the religion and ethics forum, rather than the science forum?
Because the only people denying reality on the subject are doing it for religious reasons, and are thus found doing so... guess where?
So a day in the bible isn't a day?
So anyways, how does evolution fit in if the bible says that man was made out of dust? Man just plopped down, then evolved?
Correct. It is a God day. You would do well to read. Read more than the first 2 chapters of Genesis, and about history.
A god day? LOL. That's part of history? Or HIStory,
The bible isn't a history book anyways, it's fiction, you can't prove shit in there.
Why did it take god 6 days to make the world?
The equipment was rented.
If religion is not science- then why do religious nuts always post in the scientific and logic forum, rather than the religion forum? I find it amusing that certain die hard gung-ho religious fanatics (who are really probably just anti-truth people, seeking a justification for it or something) sit here screaming about how nobody here seems to understand anything they say, and look at all the religion- its religion, its religion- and all this is taking place (by their own choice) in a SCIENCE forum.If evolution is not a religion- then why do evolutionists always post in the religion and ethics forum, rather than the science forum? I find it amusing that certain die-hard gung-ho evolutionists (who are really probably just anti god people, seeking a justification for it or something) sit here screaming about how nobody here seems to understand anything they say, and look at all the science- its science, its science- and all this is taking place (by their own choice) in the RELIGION forum.
Huh, completely switching the terms in that paragraph around, I have concluded that you have absolutely no point whatsoever.
you mean with the slavery and the stonings and things? yeah. great.The Bible offers up a great way to live your life. Why would you dispute that?
Show me where in the Bible it says it is a good thing the stone someone. Please.
Slavery was common place in those days.
Once again we are in a totally different world than they were in. So, that being said, I was speaking of the ways of life that Jesus, (real or mythical) lived. If we all strived to live how he did, we would be happy.
Show me where in the Bible it says it is a good thing the stone someone. Please.
leviticus stoning - Google Search
Not only good- commanded by god
Slavery was common place in those days.
and god was cool with it
Once again we are in a totally different world ***n they were in. So, ***t being said, I was speaking of the ways of life ***t Jesus, (real or mythical) lived. If we all strived to live how he did, we would be happy.
yet you have a computer?
Show me where in the Bible it says it is a good thing the stone someone. Please.
leviticus stoning - Google Search
Not only good- commanded by god
Slavery was common place in those days.
and god was cool with it
Once again we are in a totally different world ***n they were in. So, ***t being said, I was speaking of the ways of life ***t Jesus, (real or mythical) lived. If we all strived to live how he did, we would be happy.
yet you have a computer?
If evolution is not a religion- then why do evolutionists always post in the religion and ethics forum, rather than the science forum?
Because the only people denying reality on the subject are doing it for religious reasons, and are thus found doing so... guess where?
It could as easily be said that the only people ignoring the first law of thermodynamics are denying IT for religious reasons.. and thus, posting their beliefs... guess where?
Hmm ... yes, you are an extremist since you refuse to learn from more than one source.
And that one source would be?
Bump for KK
I guess that claim was false.
The thing I don't like about these sort of discussions is that atheists always take the opinions of Southern Baptist preachers who represent what a few million people and try to act like their newly formed opinions on the matter speak for all the world's 1.5 billion Christians.
No, we need to smother your position so that it doesn't wind up in our school systems, government, and medicine. If you or anyone else wants to go be ignorant or uneducated on your own, be my guest.why does it bother you ***t others do not believe what you believe?
Do you need approval from others for your own personal beliefs, to make you feel secure in your own position?
Do you have to insult or bash the beliefs of others in order to strengthen your own position?
Setarcos already pointed it out. This is particularly funny because it proves to me that behind all your preachings and hypotheticals about how we should live like they did in the bible, you don't actually know what happened in the bible. If two people taking an opposite stance as you on a topic know your side better than you, and you don't know their side (evolution) whatsoever, how do you even hope to make any kind of valid argument?Show me where in the Bible it says it is a good thing the stone someone. Please.
And yet, you are insisting we should live like them while concurrently stating our world is "totally different". hmmm.....Slavery was common place in those days. Once again we are in a totally different world than they were in.
You would be literally poor. He preached that his followers should sell all of their possessions or give them to the poor and live without them. Have you done that? Has any Christian you know done that? Didn't think so. So why is it if you don't know the bad things that happen in the bible that you claim we should follow the bible? Why is it that you don't follow Jesus's preachings while claiming everyone should?So, that being said, I was speaking of the ways of life that Jesus, (real or mythical) lived. If we all strived to live how he did, we would be happy.
No, we need to smother your position so that it doesn't wind up in our school systems, government, and medicine. If you or anyone else wants to go be ignorant or uneducated on your own, be my guest.why does it bother you ***t others do not believe what you believe?
Do you need approval from others for your own personal beliefs, to make you feel secure in your own position?
Do you have to insult or bash the beliefs of others in order to strengthen your own position?
Setarcos already pointed it out. This is particularly funny because it proves to me that behind all your preachings and hypotheticals about how we should live like they did in the bible, you don't actually know what happened in the bible. If two people taking an opposite stance as you on a topic know your side better than you, and you don't know their side (evolution) whatsoever, how do you even hope to make any kind of valid argument?Show me where in the Bible it says it is a good thing the stone someone. Please.
And yet, you are insisting we should live like them while concurrently stating our world is "totally different". hmmm.....Slavery was common place in those days. Once again we are in a totally different world than they were in.
You would be literally poor. He preached that his followers should sell all of their possessions or give them to the poor and live without them. Have you done that? Has any Christian you know done that? Didn't think so. So why is it if you don't know the bad things that happen in the bible that you claim we should follow the bible? Why is it that you don't follow Jesus's preachings while claiming everyone should?So, that being said, I was speaking of the ways of life that Jesus, (real or mythical) lived. If we all strived to live how he did, we would be happy.
And then you point to conflicts over oil as your justification? Need I point to the large number of wars started because of RELIGION (and your religion specifically)?
And I have not once claimed you are a Christian. What you have claimed was that you seek to follow Jesus's teachings. That kinda makes you a Christian - see your nearest dictionary if you disagree. (see? now I'm saying it).First off, not once have I claimed to be a Christian, or believer in creationism. Why do you assume either?
No, what you said was "The Bible offers up a great way to live your life. Why would you dispute that?". This is false, due to the stonings, slavery, etc that has already been pointed out. You're just trying to backpedal away from the bible now.I also have never said we should live like he Jewish people of that day.
So you claim "If we all strived to live how [Jesus] did, we would be happy." and then when called out on the fact that Jesus preached to sell possessions and give everything to the poor, you claim you haven't done that. And instead of responding by saying how you can resolve that conflict between what you say and how you actually live, you instead try to minimize poverty in the US? That still leaves the incongruity. Doesn't address the problem at all. It's not like you should completely disregard the teachings of Jesus because the poor aren't as bad off nowadays. Heck, you even identified where you should be sending your money/possessions!And you are only poor when you take in to account what qualifies you as poor in what society. The poor in America have it a lot better off than the poor in Ethiopia. So no I have not sold all my possessions, nor have I said I was a Christian or that I even know anyone who in my opinion is in fact a REAL Christian.
No one claimed he did, so why are you asking me to show you that? What you said was "IF we tried to live the way he did. It is very very very possible we would have happy lives. Would nations fight over oil if we didn't need it for our materialistic wants?"Wars have been fought in the name of religion, show me once where Jesus said to wage war on nations in his name.
Your response is nothing less than misdirection, which I will be blatantly rubbing your nose in line by line.
And I have not once claimed you are a Christian. What you have claimed was that you seek to follow Jesus's teachings. That kinda makes you a Christian - see your nearest dictionary if you disagree. (see? now I'm saying it).First off, not once have I claimed to be a Christian, or believer in creationism. Why do you assume either?
No, what you said was "The Bible offers up a great way to live your life. Why would you dispute that?". This is false, due to the stonings, slavery, etc that has already been pointed out. You're just trying to backpedal away from the bible now.I also have never said we should live like he Jewish people of that day.
So you claim "If we all strived to live how [Jesus] did, we would be happy." and then when called out on the fact that Jesus preached to sell possessions and give everything to the poor, you claim you haven't done that. And instead of responding by saying how you can resolve that conflict between what you say and how you actually live, you instead try to minimize poverty in the US? That still leaves the incongruity. Doesn't address the problem at all. It's not like you should completely disregard the teachings of Jesus because the poor aren't as bad off nowadays. Heck, you even identified where you should be sending your money/possessions!And you are only poor when you take in to account what qualifies you as poor in what society. The poor in America have it a lot better off than the poor in Ethiopia. So no I have not sold all my possessions, nor have I said I was a Christian or that I even know anyone who in my opinion is in fact a REAL Christian.
No one claimed he did, so why are you asking me to show you that? What you said was "IF we tried to live the way he did. It is very very very possible we would have happy lives. Would nations fight over oil if we didn't need it for our materialistic wants?"Wars have been fought in the name of religion, show me once where Jesus said to wage war on nations in his name.
Insinuating that petty fighting would stop existing by people claiming to follow the teachings of jesus has been very clearly shown to be incorrect; not because the ideals themselves are bad, but because no one actually follows them. You yourself, while claiming everyone should follow them, don't follow them. So if the preacher is the hypocrite, why do you assume it will be any better for others?
