Why can't Public Assistance increase?

What I believe is that we should significantly raise wages of all workers.

Okay... For the sake of argument, let's take your idea further.... Let's raise the mandatory federal minimum wage to $100 per hour. I think we can all agree that is a significant raise in wages... correct?

So tell me... Why is that a bad idea? :dunno: GO!

Raising the federal mandatory minimum to $17.00 would be fantastic, especially with the upcoming stock market downturn.

The better would be my $23.50/hr plan.

-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2016 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 600 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.

-Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

My plan would reduce small business costs for employees and taxes to 30%. That's a 20%-30% drop.

My plan would put BILLIONS into the economy daily.

My plan would put the $100 trillion plus currently owned by corporate America back into the economy.

My plan would end all welfare.

My plan would significantly increase social security and pension payments.

My plan would hold prices for 10 years, thus eliminating inflation.

That's pretty complicated though. My plan would be much simpler, and would give everyone a raise, across the board.
 
Ya know. I keep hearing from fake conservatives about how we spend too much on welfare. Welfare would cause taxes to raise. Poor people want to steal more of my money. Blah, blah, blah.

Some interesting statistics:

Finland spends 3.2% of its federal budget on public assistance.

Great Britain spends a little over 4.6%

Israel spends 2.4%

Norway spends a whopping 6.2%.

And the US? 0.7%. That's it.

So, why can't we just increase that to 2%? We can take that 2% away from our bloated military budget. It would still make us the Western nation that spends the least amount of money on their poor, but imagine the massive effect that would have on poverty in this country. And it wouldn't even cost the tax payers one. Red. Cent. more than they are paying, now. Because I'm not suggesting increasing the budget. I'm suggesting giving public assistance a slightly larger piece of the existing budget.

Why is that such an outrageous idea?

Asshole, ONE THIRD of NYC's budget is spent on welfare.

Still talking? Thought so.
 
Raising the federal mandatory minimum to $17.00 would be fantastic, especially with the upcoming stock market downturn. The better would be my $23.50/hr plan.
Oh yeah....chronic unemployment sure is "fantastic". That is - if you are a Dumbocrat elite in Washington that wants and needs everyone living on the government plantation.

The data on this endless...you raise minimum wage....people lose their jobs. Period. Nobody is paying someone $23.50 per hour to flip a fucking burger. And a 16-year old kid sure as hell doesn't need $23.50 per hour to flip a fucking burger.

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Higher Fast-Food Wages: Higher Fast-Food Prices

Raising Minimum Starting Wages to $15 per Hour Would Eliminate Seven Million Jobs

Four consequences of a $15 minimum wage
 
-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.
Oh....so eliminate the free market and implement communism. Yeah...because centralized planning has been such a success around the world - Cuba, Cambodia, Ethiopia, U.S.S.R., Vietnam, etc. Idiot. :eusa_doh:
 
Art. I, Sec 8, Cl. 1= to spend for the common defense and general welfare

Of the Nation, not individual citizens..... as noted by the eighteen individual powers that provide the definition of "common defense and general welfare" as you continue on through that Section.

Don't be too disappoibted... that's the second most common Constitutional reading mistake after the belief that the Second Amendment has anything to do with militias.
 
-Raising the federal mandatory minimum to $17.00 would be fantastic, especially with the upcoming stock market downturn.

-The better would be my $23.50/hr plan.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.
In other words - you want to completely collapse the U.S. economy immediately. Then you'll falsely blame it on the capitalism that you outlawed and tried to implement socialism.

Asshole....you can't fucking triple minimum wage while simultaneously forcing businesses to not only not increase prices to cover those costs, but actually decrease their prices to a previous decade. That is totally unsustainable and even a fucking 4-year old would know that much. Jesus...unemployment would hit 78% on the first day alone. It would make the Great Depression look like the Roaring 20's.

You're a fucking imbecile who isn't qualified to run a lemonade stand in front of your house. :bang3:
 
My plan would....collapse the world economy
My plan would....collapse the world economy
My plan would....collapse the world economy
My plan would....collapse the world economy
My plan would....collapse the world economy
My plan would....collapse the world economy
Psst.....asshole....you don't have a "plan". You're not a world leader and you're not a candidate for President of the United States. You're an asshole sitting in your parents basement working a minimum wage job (hence your desire for $23 per hour minimum wage) desperately trying to make yourself sound important. Hint: you're not.
 
My plan would end all welfare.
You really want to "end all welfare"? I've got an exponentially better "plan" than you do for that junior.

My plan would eliminate welfare since it is 100% unconstitutional at the federal level anyway. Then I would leave businesses the fuck alone because the federal government has no business meddling in the free market. Then I would create a 10% Flat Tax for corporations and a consumption tax for individuals (no income tax at all on the individual since that stupidity allows for criminals such as the mafia, drug cartels, prostitutes, etc. to avoid paying tax - while a consumption tax will ensure that every single person in America - including illegal aliens - pays taxes). The government will have higher revenues than it has ever had while each American will have more money in their pocket than they've ever had.

You're "plan" (LMAO!!!) would create over 78% unemployment on the first day. My plan would lower unemployment to unprecedented levels while ensuring Constitutional government and maximum liberty.

You're "plan" shows you're an immature asshole living in his parents basement making minimum wage.
 
shifted their main corporations overseas where they pay ZERO US Taxes but collect oodles in sales in the US.

Challenge: Cite three examples of these corporations who pay zero US tax but collect sales in the US?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiT3beU1YLOAhXEcT4KHbclDisQFgg1MAM&url=http://www.americansfortaxfairness.org/tax-fairness-briefing-booklet/fact-sheet-corporate-tax-rates/&usg=AFQjCNFQUNPRYUMm7ONb-tuD3xCJb__yYA&sig2=UzkhaAAC69GcI7wbRs6JpQ

Okay moron... read your challenge CAREFULLY.... I asked you to show 3 corporations who 1) Paid zero US taxes AND 2) Collected sales in the US. You cited a list of propaganda links which show such nuggets as "General Electric, Boeing, Verizon and 23 other profitable Fortune 500 firms paid no federal income taxes from 2008 to 2012" BUT... what the propagandists FAIL to mention is their sales. You see, whenever your expenses are more than your profits, you show a loss and you don't pay taxes on a loss. Now, just so happens, between '08-'12, we went through a major recession and many businesses who didn't completely tank, didn't show a profit.

But propagandists rely on really stupid people who don't comprehend that "revenues collected" is not profits made. And so, you can manipulate statistics to show something seemingly outrageous or unethical. The only person being unethical is you... the propagandist.
"PROFITABLE". Also before and AFTER that period. Propagandists don't have facts, dupe. Like all you morons saying we have the highest corporate taxes in the world. LOL. Only on small business...Thanks GOP

The only dupe is the one that supports rewarding criminal activity of illegals. I don't. That makes you the dupe and accessory to a crime.
Out of all that, you snap back to hate of illegals? YOUR party invites them in with longtime refusal of a good SS ID card and only gives a shytte during one of THEIR corrupt recessions/depressions, and know they can distract the chumps like you with bs about useless, un-American Berlin walls and unconstitutional harassment laws. Brainwashed functional morons...
 
My plan would end all welfare.
You really want to "end all welfare"? I've got an exponentially better "plan" than you do for that junior.

My plan would eliminate welfare since it is 100% unconstitutional at the federal level anyway. Then I would leave businesses the fuck alone because the federal government has no business meddling in the free market. Then I would create a 10% Flat Tax for corporations and a consumption tax for individuals (no income tax at all on the individual since that stupidity allows for criminals such as the mafia, drug cartels, prostitutes, etc. to avoid paying tax - while a consumption tax will ensure that every single person in America - including illegal aliens - pays taxes). The government will have higher revenues than it has ever had while each American will have more money in their pocket than they've ever had.

You're "plan" (LMAO!!!) would create over 78% unemployment on the first day. My plan would lower unemployment to unprecedented levels while ensuring Constitutional government and maximum liberty.

You're "plan" shows you're an immature asshole living in his parents basement making minimum wage.
Any actual argument, Pubtroll? (the only kind)...
 
Challenge: Cite three examples of these corporations who pay zero US tax but collect sales in the US?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiT3beU1YLOAhXEcT4KHbclDisQFgg1MAM&url=http://www.americansfortaxfairness.org/tax-fairness-briefing-booklet/fact-sheet-corporate-tax-rates/&usg=AFQjCNFQUNPRYUMm7ONb-tuD3xCJb__yYA&sig2=UzkhaAAC69GcI7wbRs6JpQ

Okay moron... read your challenge CAREFULLY.... I asked you to show 3 corporations who 1) Paid zero US taxes AND 2) Collected sales in the US. You cited a list of propaganda links which show such nuggets as "General Electric, Boeing, Verizon and 23 other profitable Fortune 500 firms paid no federal income taxes from 2008 to 2012" BUT... what the propagandists FAIL to mention is their sales. You see, whenever your expenses are more than your profits, you show a loss and you don't pay taxes on a loss. Now, just so happens, between '08-'12, we went through a major recession and many businesses who didn't completely tank, didn't show a profit.

But propagandists rely on really stupid people who don't comprehend that "revenues collected" is not profits made. And so, you can manipulate statistics to show something seemingly outrageous or unethical. The only person being unethical is you... the propagandist.
"PROFITABLE". Also before and AFTER that period. Propagandists don't have facts, dupe. Like all you morons saying we have the highest corporate taxes in the world. LOL. Only on small business...Thanks GOP

The only dupe is the one that supports rewarding criminal activity of illegals. I don't. That makes you the dupe and accessory to a crime.
Out of all that, you snap back to hate of illegals? YOUR party invites them in with longtime refusal of a good SS ID card and only gives a shytte during one of THEIR corrupt recessions/depressions, and know they can distract the chumps like you with bs about useless, un-American Berlin walls and unconstitutional harassment laws. Brainwashed functional morons...

What I did is prove you support criminal activity by supporting illegals staying.

I don't believe a wall will keep them out. I support armed personnel at the border.
 
My plan would end all welfare.
You really want to "end all welfare"? I've got an exponentially better "plan" than you do for that junior.

My plan would eliminate welfare since it is 100% unconstitutional at the federal level anyway. Then I would leave businesses the fuck alone because the federal government has no business meddling in the free market. Then I would create a 10% Flat Tax for corporations and a consumption tax for individuals (no income tax at all on the individual since that stupidity allows for criminals such as the mafia, drug cartels, prostitutes, etc. to avoid paying tax - while a consumption tax will ensure that every single person in America - including illegal aliens - pays taxes). The government will have higher revenues than it has ever had while each American will have more money in their pocket than they've ever had.

You're "plan" (LMAO!!!) would create over 78% unemployment on the first day. My plan would lower unemployment to unprecedented levels while ensuring Constitutional government and maximum liberty.

You're "plan" shows you're an immature asshole living in his parents basement making minimum wage.
Any actual argument, Pubtroll? (the only kind)...
Yeah...the one that just obliterated your dumb-ass to the point that you can't even attempt to dispute it, much less actually dispute it!

:dance:
 
Ya know. I keep hearing from fake conservatives about how we spend too much on welfare. Welfare would cause taxes to raise. Poor people want to steal more of my money. Blah, blah, blah.

Some interesting statistics:

Finland spends 3.2% of its federal budget on public assistance.

Great Britain spends a little over 4.6%

Israel spends 2.4%

Norway spends a whopping 6.2%.

And the US? 0.7%. That's it.

So, why can't we just increase that to 2%? We can take that 2% away from our bloated military budget. It would still make us the Western nation that spends the least amount of money on their poor, but imagine the massive effect that would have on poverty in this country. And it wouldn't even cost the tax payers one. Red. Cent. more than they are paying, now. Because I'm not suggesting increasing the budget. I'm suggesting giving public assistance a slightly larger piece of the existing budget.

Why is that such an outrageous idea?

Nothing is for free. Who do you suggests will pay for this? Are you asking the middle class to pay more money or just those that make above $250K? What about those that are able to work but unwilling to work, do they get free shit? You liberals are always about giving shit away but never think through who has to pay for it.
 
My plan would end all welfare.
You really want to "end all welfare"? I've got an exponentially better "plan" than you do for that junior.

My plan would eliminate welfare since it is 100% unconstitutional at the federal level anyway. Then I would leave businesses the fuck alone because the federal government has no business meddling in the free market. Then I would create a 10% Flat Tax for corporations and a consumption tax for individuals (no income tax at all on the individual since that stupidity allows for criminals such as the mafia, drug cartels, prostitutes, etc. to avoid paying tax - while a consumption tax will ensure that every single person in America - including illegal aliens - pays taxes). The government will have higher revenues than it has ever had while each American will have more money in their pocket than they've ever had.

You're "plan" (LMAO!!!) would create over 78% unemployment on the first day. My plan would lower unemployment to unprecedented levels while ensuring Constitutional government and maximum liberty.

You're "plan" shows you're an immature asshole living in his parents basement making minimum wage.
Any actual argument, Pubtroll? (the only kind)...
Yeah...the one that just obliterated your dumb-ass to the point that you can't even attempt to dispute it, much less actually dispute it!

:dance:
We already have a flat tax- everyone pays 20-30% in ALL taxes and fees, and it kills the nonrich. A flat tax always will. dupe.
 
Ya know. I keep hearing from fake conservatives about how we spend too much on welfare. Welfare would cause taxes to raise. Poor people want to steal more of my money. Blah, blah, blah.

Some interesting statistics:

Finland spends 3.2% of its federal budget on public assistance.

Great Britain spends a little over 4.6%

Israel spends 2.4%

Norway spends a whopping 6.2%.

And the US? 0.7%. That's it.

So, why can't we just increase that to 2%? We can take that 2% away from our bloated military budget. It would still make us the Western nation that spends the least amount of money on their poor, but imagine the massive effect that would have on poverty in this country. And it wouldn't even cost the tax payers one. Red. Cent. more than they are paying, now. Because I'm not suggesting increasing the budget. I'm suggesting giving public assistance a slightly larger piece of the existing budget.

Why is that such an outrageous idea?

You want an answer? I'll give you an answer - though you'll never understand or accept it.....

The US Constitution make NO PROVISIONS for the expenditure of Federal funds on ANY form of welfare. Not for social or personal welfare.

Therefore the 0.7% the United States spends on these things is 0.7% too much.
Art. I, Sec 8, Cl. 1= to spend for the common defense and general welfare

heirtothewind, Your comprehension of Art. I Sec. 8 is simple-minded to put it nicely. The way in which you are interpreting it, there is literally no need for enumeration of powers. Government can deem anything it wants to do as "for the general welfare" and claim the constitutional power to do it. Why would the framers go to all that trouble listing out the enumerated things government is allowed to do, then give them blanket permission to do anything under the guise of general welfare? It's totally illogical, so we have to search for what the framers meant when they used the phrase "to promote the general welfare."

Luckily for us, there are some documents we can look to for an explanation. The Federalist Papers were the argumentative case made for virtually everything we find in our Constitution. These men didn't just throw together a Constitution and then assign a SCOTUS to interpret it like tea leaves. There was a Great Debate at the time, between the Federalists and Anti-federalists. The biggest fear of the Anti-federalist was the power a central government would assume over the states and people. Ironic how their worst fears have been confirmed... the framers would be shocked by this.

If you would take the time to read Federalist 41 by James Madison, he explains... albeit in old English... exactly what is intended by "general welfare" and it's not what you're comprehending at all. Essentially, the two words are "shorthand" for the collection of enumerated powers. Rather than to list those again, they are simply condensed into the words "general welfare" for sake of convenience. So it's simply and editorial shortcut but it has been broadly misunderstood for years. The government's execution of their dozen or so enumerated powers ARE the "general welfare" and nothing more.

The government assistance programs we define as "welfare" is not what the framers ever intended or what our Constitution authorizes. The fact that we apply a label to something doesn't make it constitutional by default... think about how dangerously stupid that would be. We could define common theft as "liberty" and then run to the constitution and say, hey, we're guaranteed the right to liberty, it's right here in black and white! So while modern government assistance is called "welfare" it doesn't mean that was what the framers were talking about when they used the term "general welfare."
 

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