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Fortunately, there is an endless supply of mindless unskilled people available able to say "Welcome to McDonalds, may I take your order?
Hardly worth $31,200 per year.
That's what seems nuts to me. Minimum wages laws make these jobs illegal. If both employer and employee can agree on a wage why does it need to be illegal?
Minimum wage laws make it illegal to pay less than minimum wage.
It doesn't make it illegal not to hire at all. If you'r skill is not worth the minimum wage I wont hire you.
On second thought, if you're seeking the minimum wage, whatever amount is, you got no skill.
Because every job isn't worth 'paying' for.
Because every job isn't worth 'paying' for.
Name one.
All of them, if the prospective employee has no appreciable skills.
All of them, if the prospective employee has no appreciable skills.
So you hire a person with no skills and don't pay him for a job that doesn't exist?
You've never heard of internships?
You've never heard of internships?
Paid OK. Non-paid, a rip-off
By the way, 1%er, not sure if you saw my earlier question. In your view, should self-employed business owners be required to pay themselves a 'living wage'?
You should make a minimum of two to three times or more what you made as an employee.
Ahh.. ok, so, in your view, minimum wage for self-employed person should be even higher than it is for regular employees? What if they fail to pay themselves this minimum, what should the penalty be? A fine? Jail time?
Ahh.. ok, so, in your view, minimum wage for self-employed person should be even higher than it is for regular employees? What if they fail to pay themselves this minimum, what should the penalty be? A fine? Jail time?
What I stated is that you should make a minimum of two to three times or more what you made as an employee.
I'm pretty sure that the "one percenters" are the top one percent of the population when ranked by income. As a group they control a lot more than one percent of total wealth. That's the complaint.
By the way, 1%er, not sure if you saw my earlier question. In your view, should self-employed business owners be required to pay themselves a 'living wage'?
You should make a minimum of two to three times or more what you made as an employee.
Ahh.. ok, so, in your view, minimum wage for self-employed person should be even higher than it is for regular employees? What if they fail to pay themselves this minimum, what should the penalty be? A fine? Jail time?
This statement of his proves that he has never started a business.
I just started a business about a year ago. It's a bistro in a small town. My staff makes more money than me. In fact, I am actually losing money at this point. The business is doing fine... another year, and I will be making a decent profit... by decent, I mean that I won't be losing money anymore. But it takes a lot of time and patience to grow a business and turn a profit.
This statement of his proves that he has never started a business.
I just started a business about a year ago. It's a bistro in a small town. My staff makes more money than me. In fact, I am actually losing money at this point. The business is doing fine... another year, and I will be making a decent profit... by decent, I mean that I won't be losing money anymore. But it takes a lot of time and patience to grow a business and turn a profit.
If you were correctly financed why would you not be making money?
If their work is not worth a livable wage it isn't worth doing by a human being.WTF? Because YOU don't value burgers, employees of burger joints shouldn't be paid a living wage?
No, they shouldn't be making a livable wage because their work is not worth a livable wage.
NO, that's an employer ripping you off.Fortunately, there is an endless supply of mindless unskilled people available able to say "Welcome to McDonalds, may I take your order?
Hardly worth $31,200 per year.
That's what seems nuts to me. Minimum wages laws make these jobs illegal. If both employer and employee can agree on a wage why does it need to be illegal?
Minimum wage laws make it illegal to pay less than minimum wage.
It doesn't make it illegal not to hire at all. If you'r skill is not worth the minimum wage I wont hire you.
On second thought, if you're seeking the minimum wage, whatever amount is, you got no skill.
---You sound like an extremist that supports the 1% vs fuck everyone else (or "i don't care about others").
I prefer the more balanced approach that respects EVERYONE within social ecologies, which i believe is more realistic.
So what is your plan for this "balanced approach?"
This just shows your ignorance.Because every non-third-world-nation in the World recognizes that part of the social contract of an enlightened society is that we care for our poor. I'm sorry if you cannot recognize the social, economic, and health benefits of reducing poverty in our nation. Perhaps you should move to one of those third-world countries where they don't care, and let the rich freely rape, and pillage the poor.Why can't we just cut it to ZERO???
Did you read page 1?
I support the OP for starters, i.e., more public assistance to the extremely "poor" (skill-wise, social environment) to almost equal other "developed" countries.
However, the assistance must be efficient in its goals, and i admit that will take some time to right this unbalanced USA society; a generation or two.
NO, that's an employer ripping you off.
The goal and objective is record profit, usually more than the worth of the service and product.
Here's another opportunity to learn some basic economics. It's impossible to sell anything for more (or less) than it's worth. In fact, every single voluntary transaction is an agreement between two parties on what something is worth.
Here's another opportunity to learn some basic economics. It's impossible to sell anything for more (or less) than it's worth. In fact, every single voluntary transaction is an agreement between two parties on what something is worth
More bloviating
What? Too many big words?
the liberal mind is incapable of basic logic and reason. Its a form of mental illness.
the liberal mind is incapable of basic logic and reason. Its a form of mental illness.
More bloviating.
NO, that's an employer ripping you off.Fortunately, there is an endless supply of mindless unskilled people available able to say "Welcome to McDonalds, may I take your order?
Hardly worth $31,200 per year.
That's what seems nuts to me. Minimum wages laws make these jobs illegal. If both employer and employee can agree on a wage why does it need to be illegal?
Minimum wage laws make it illegal to pay less than minimum wage.
It doesn't make it illegal not to hire at all. If you'r skill is not worth the minimum wage I wont hire you.
On second thought, if you're seeking the minimum wage, whatever amount is, you got no skill.
If you agree to work for certain wage or salary, how's that a ripoff?
NO, that's an employer ripping you off.
"Ripping you off" is a term that means theft. There is no theft when a person offers a job for X amount of money, and pays that exact wage for work he fully described before the offer was accepted.
If you have a jacket that you paid $200.00 for, but you always thought it was only worth about $120.00, then nobody ripped you off. You seen the jacket, accepted the price, and paid for it with no hesitation.
Here's another opportunity to learn some basic economics. It's impossible to sell anything for more (or less) than it's worth. In fact, every single voluntary transaction is an agreement between two parties on what something is worth.
Here's another opportunity to learn some basic economics. It's impossible to sell anything for more (or less) than it's worth. In fact, every single voluntary transaction is an agreement between two parties on what something is worth
More bloviating
What? Too many big words?
the liberal mind is incapable of basic logic and reason. Its a form of mental illness.
the liberal mind is incapable of basic logic and reason. Its a form of mental illness.
More bloviating.
the truth is hard for you libs to deal with, isn't it? Hang on, maybe soon medical science will come up with a cure for your illness.
Because every job isn't worth 'paying' for.
Name one.
All of them, if the prospective employee has no appreciable skills.
All of them, if the prospective employee has no appreciable skills.
So you hire a person with no skills and don't pay him for a job that doesn't exist?
You've never heard of internships?
You've never heard of internships?
Paid OK. Non-paid, a rip-off
Then you're a fool.
When all of the wages are below the living wage...
By the way, 1%er, not sure if you saw my earlier question. In your view, should self-employed business owners be required to pay themselves a 'living wage'?
You should make a minimum of two to three times or more what you made as an employee.
Ahh.. ok, so, in your view, minimum wage for self-employed person should be even higher than it is for regular employees? What if they fail to pay themselves this minimum, what should the penalty be? A fine? Jail time?
This statement of his proves that he has never started a business.
I just started a business about a year ago. It's a bistro in a small town. My staff makes more money than me. In fact, I am actually losing money at this point. The business is doing fine... another year, and I will be making a decent profit... by decent, I mean that I won't be losing money anymore. But it takes a lot of time and patience to grow a business and turn a profit.
This statement of his proves that he has never started a business.
I just started a business about a year ago. It's a bistro in a small town. My staff makes more money than me. In fact, I am actually losing money at this point. The business is doing fine... another year, and I will be making a decent profit... by decent, I mean that I won't be losing money anymore. But it takes a lot of time and patience to grow a business and turn a profit.
If you were correctly financed why would you not be making money?
I never finance anything. It's the worst mistake a new business can make. Everything was paid up front as I went. When I opened my doors, I owed no one. The first 3 months, I turned a profit and reinvested it into the business. With any restaurant, the curiosity wears off and traffic slows down. You find out when your business is best and you have to adjust staff and hours so that you maximize results. In the meantime, you still have to buy food, keep the lights turned on, keep the air conditioner running, do the advertising, keep promoting the business, keep paying staff. It costs money. Restaurants are one of the hardest businesses in the world to be successful at.
But it't like I said... I have waiters who make $100 a night in tips. I wish I made $100 a night in profits but we're not there yet. We're on a nice trajectory and will get there sometime within the next year. We have great reviews, lots of returning customers, good feedback and every reason to be proud of what we've built. It was never intended as something to make me rich, just something I wanted to see if I could do and I did it. I'll make back my money, make a little profit and then I'll sell it. That's usually what I do and I've been doing it for 40 years.
When all of the wages are below the living wage...
You never have defined it.... WHAT EXACTLY IS A "LIVING WAGE?"
You can't possibly think that it costs the same to live in Los Angeles or New York City as it costs to live in Natchez, Mississippi. And what "standard of living" are we talking about? A roof over your head and food in your belly? Air conditioners running 24/7 at 72 degrees? Unlimited health and dental care, including sex changes and plastic surgery, diamond and gold grills? A car, gas money and nice clothes? Maybe flat-screen plasma TVs, iPhones and laptops, internet connection, beer and wine allowance, ATVs and snowmobiles, paid vacations annually to some exotic location? What about all those people who've busted their humps for years doing without these things so they have something now? Screw them, they're chumps?
82 years ago... FDR proclaimed with the roll-out of a Federal minimum wage: "If American companies cannot pay a decent living wage, they have no business operating in this country!" 82 years later, we hear the EXACT SAME THING from the mindless liberal left! Let's just bow up and forget all about past history and dangle that "living wage" carrot on the stick ONE MORE TIME! ...And goofy, fucked in the head morons fall all over themselves to mimic the cry!
A jacket is not a job.
