Why Communism fears Christianity

[MaxGrit]

yep that's correct

 

[Newby]

Connections that led to socialism, then Communism Was Marx a Satanist

Marx met Moses Hess, the man who... made him embrace the Socialist idea. Hess calls him "Dr. Marx--my idol, who will give the last kick to medieval religion and politics."...[[p.20]
Georg Jung, another friend of Marx at that time, writes in 1841... that Marx will surely chase God from his heaven.... Marx calls Christianity one of the most immoral religions. [p.20]
One of his partners in the First International was Mikhail Bakunin, a Russian anarchist, who wrote: "...here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first freethinker and the emancipator of worlds...[urges] him to disobey and eat the fruit of knowledge."... He writes: "In this revolution we will have to awaken the devil in the people, to stir up the basest passions." [p.22]

Bakunin reveals that Proudhon, another major Socialist thinker and at that time a friend of Karl Marx, also “worshipped Satan.” ... Proudhon...declared that God was the prototype for injustice. "... Every step forward is a victory in which we overcome the Divine."... [p.23]

In Marx’s poems Invocation of One in Despair and Human Pride, man’s supreme ‘supplication is for his own greatness. If man is doomed to perish through his own greatness, this will be a cosmic catastrophe, but he will die as a godlike being, mourned by demons.

Marx' ballad The Player records the singer’s complaints against a God who neither knows nor respects his art. It emerges from the dark abyss of hell,

bedeviling the mind and bewitching the heart, and his dance is the dance of death....

Art emerging from the dark abyss of hell, bedeviling the mind.... This reminds us of the words of the American revolutionist Jerry Rubin in Do It: “We’ve combined youth, music, sex, drugs, and rebellion with treason — and that’s a combination hard to beat.” [p.24]
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Very disturbing evidence, isn't it? You see, America was founded as a Christian nation, one that was dedicated to God and blessed by God - above all the other nations of the earth. Satan could not cause our fall until he was able to remove our devotion to the Lord Jesus Christ. How did he manage this? You are reading it - our churches were infiltrated, rock music played rather than holy anointed music that worships Jesus, false preachers preaching a false grace - the removal of sermons about hell, repentance, holiness, praying in the Holy Spirit, the narrow path that Jesus said we must be on. The message of the Cross is no longer preached in most places. False preachers in the pulpits. Men such as Joel Osteen and Rick Warren and Joseph Prince. This is how Communism was able to creep in - until now. Look at what is happening now. Do you think that the average person protesting in Ferguson or watching the protests knows that the Communists are behind what is happening?

Very disturbing evidence, isn't it? You see, America was founded as a Christian nation, one that was dedicated to God and blessed by God - above all the other nations of the earth.

Where does your belief of that comment stem from, because it's not in the Bible?

I don't fault you for thinking that American culture is not a good thing, but it's not just American culture, it's the world over. And there are Christians all over the globe that you do a disservice to when saying that America and/or its Christans are 'anointed' above all other nations. You are so mired in this message about God's judgment on America that you can't see the forest for the trees. You are so worried about 'the world' that you seem to have lost faith in God's plan and God's power to oversee. Any country can pass any law, my neighbors can commit any act that may be a sin, but none of that changes me as a Christian, and it's not my place to be concerned about what they do, other than to share the message of Jesus Christ, and his message is about service, love grace, and salvation. To preach that America is being condemned and punished by God is not following Christ's teachings. And I'm guessing that's why you won't have a conversation with me about this, and you won't back up what you're saying with scripture, other than from the Old Testament, none of which has anything to do with America.

 

[Agit8r]

Well obviously not just xnity, but all religions. The Soviet War in Afghanistan comes to mind...

 

[Avatar4321]

Communism hates Christianity in particular since it's founder, satan, hates Christ.

communism is a satanic imitation of the Holy order of the Son of God.

 

[guno]

Was Marx a Satanist

Did Karl Marx's son and wife know that Marx was a Satanist? I've read Richard Wurmbrand's book, Marx & Satan. I believe they did know. Note the story about Marx son and how he addresses his father in Wurmbrands book. Also Marx father was a Christian and had great concerns with his son having decided to no longer be a Christian.

Wurmbrand found some "cryptic passages" as he read the letters between Marx and his father:

The son writes, "My holy of holies was rent asunder and new gods had to be installed."[p.16]

On March 2, 1837, Marx’s father writes to his son: “Your advancement, the dear hope to see your name being once of great repute, and your earthly well-being are not the only desires of my heart.... Only if your heart remains pure and beats humanly and if no demon will be able to alienate your heart from better feelings, only then will I be happy.” [p.16]

What made a father express suddenly the fear of demonic influence upon a young son who until then had been a confessed Christian? Was it the poems he received as a present from his son for his 55th birthday? The following quotation is taken from Marx’s poem On Hegel:

Words I teach all mixed up into a devilish muddle.
Thus, anyone may think just what he chooses to think. [p.17]

In his poem The Pale Maiden, he writes:
Thus heaven I’ve forfeited, I know it full well.
My soul, once true to God, is chosen for hell.[p.20]

satan is an invention of christ insanity

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

One thing I would not agree with from the earlier link - I would have to insist that Communism was first and foremost about materialism. Communists / Marxists are by nature materialistic people from everything I have witnessed about them. They want to live like kings. While the rest of the world serves them like serfs. ( that is what I believe )

That's pretty accurate, and what frustrates them and what ultimately makes them violent is that they are not able to convince us that we would be better off under their rule.

True but imagine what kind of a shock they will be in for once the Russians roll in here and line them up against the wall first! (for execution) You know, throughout the history of Communism - whenever the Communists moved to their final stage and their tanks rolled in - they always executed the Marxists / Communists / first. They had a name for such people who betrayed their own nation to hand over to the Communists. "Useful idiots". Sad but true.

What is amazing is that even with history to glean from - Hollywood movie stars, producers, directors, teachers, professors, lawyers, wealthy elitists some how believe they will be the exception - that they will in fact be rewarded for their help in making it happen - yet they won't be rewarded. Unless you consider being executed by firing squad a reward. I do not.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Well obviously not just xnity, but all religions. The Soviet War in Afghanistan comes to mind...

What is xnity?

 

[Agit8r]

Well obviously not just xnity, but all religions. The Soviet War in Afghanistan comes to mind...

What is xnity?

common shorthand. for instance:

"It was the Universal opinion of the Century preceding the last, that Civil Govt could not stand without the prop of a Religious establishment, & that the Xn religion itself, would perish if not supported by a legal provision for its Clergy. The experience of Virginia conspicuously corroborates the disproof of both opinions. The Civil Govt, tho' bereft of everything like an associated hierarchy, possesses the requisite stability and performs its functions with complete success, Whilst the number, the industry, and the morality of the Priesthood, & the devotion of the people have been manifestly increased by the total separation of the Church from the State."
-- James Madison; from letter to Robert Walsh (March 2, 1819)

"The idea also of a union of all to form one nation under one Govt in acts of devotion to the God of all is an imposing idea. But reason and the principles of the Xn religion require that all the individuals composing a nation even of the same precise creed & wished to unite in a universal act of religion at the same time, the union ought to be effected thro’ the intervention of their religious not of their political representatives. In a nation composed of various sects, some alienated widely from others, and where no agreement could take place thro’ the former, the interposition of the latter is double wrong"
-- James Madison; from 'Detached Memoranda'

 

[Newby]

One thing I would not agree with from the earlier link - I would have to insist that Communism was first and foremost about materialism. Communists / Marxists are by nature materialistic people from everything I have witnessed about them. They want to live like kings. While the rest of the world serves them like serfs. ( that is what I believe )

That's pretty accurate, and what frustrates them and what ultimately makes them violent is that they are not able to convince us that we would be better off under their rule.

True but imagine what kind of a shock they will be in for once the Russians roll in here and line them up against the wall first! (for execution) You know, throughout the history of Communism - whenever the Communists moved to their final stage and their tanks rolled in - they always executed the Marxists / Communists / first. They had a name for such people who betrayed their own nation to hand over to the Communists. "Useful idiots". Sad but true.

What is amazing is that even with history to glean from - Hollywood movie stars, producers, directors, teachers, professors, lawyers, wealthy elitists some how believe they will be the exception - that they will in fact be rewarded for their help in making it happen - yet they won't be rewarded. Unless you consider being executed by firing squad a reward. I do not.

Is this not all part of God's plan, Jeri? Do you trust God? Do you believe He is in ultimate control? Doesn't sound like you do. You talk about false teachers, yet don't hold yourself responsible for what you are teaching. Communists and Russians aren't in the Bible, neither is America. One set of Christians isn't more blessed or more condemned than another based on their geography, neither are non Christians. Evil is world wide, not in just one location. When I turned my life over to Jesus Christ, I trusted in Him to guide me and to be with me through both good and bad times. I don't care how bad the world gets, it has no impact on me because I am in Christ, and I am content. Your world view sounds very stressful, where is your faith that God is in control?

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

This is a great testimony about the life of Richard Wurmbrand - his experiences in a Communist prison - for fourteen years he was imprisoned for his faith. Richard Wurmbrand makes clear there were two types of Christians. The Christians who followed Jesus Christ and were stayed on the narrow path - preaching the Gospel - and the Christians who worked with the Communists and harrassed and spied on the true Christians. Dumitru Duduman experienced the same thing having lived in Romania during great Communist oppression. It was the lukewarm / compromising Christians who turned him in to the Romanian police. Jesus warns about such a time and these things happening also in Matthew 24. - As the day is drawing nearer we see Communism continue to take root in America - in many of the wide road - mega churches of America - we see Jesus own words come to pass - Ye shall know them by their fruits.

Please make sure to view this thread and learn about the life of Richard Wurmbrand - founder of Voice of the Martyrs.

Story of Richard Wurmbrand - in Communist Prison US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

 

[theword]

That is a good question. Why does Communism fear Christianity? What is it about Christianity that causes Communist nations to target the Christians and demand the removal of Bibles and Christians who preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ? Why is the history of Communism targeting Christianity as their number one enemy so apparent?

In his book, Marx and Satan, the founder of Voice of the Martyr's, Richard Wurmbrand revealed a great deal about the founder of Marxism, Karl Marx. The title of the book is, Marx & Satan and it reveals undeniable evidence that Marx was not an atheist but rather a Satanist. This would explain why Communism fears Christianity. Wouldn't it?

Here is one source who has done their research on the subject of this book:

Was Marx a Satanist

First, some background information about the uncompromising faithfulness of Pastor Wurmbrand from Voice of the Martyrs:

"Two months after the Communist 'People’s Republic of Romania' was established, Pastor Richard Wurmbrand was arrested. Labeled 'Prisoner Number 1,' he was locked in a solitary cell, where he endured horrendous torture at the hands of the brutal secret police. More than eight years later, 'a doctor masquerading as a Communist Party member discovered Richard alive.' Released in 1956, he 'resumed his work with the ‘underground’ churches....He was re-arrested in 1959 through the conspiracy of an associate, and sentenced to 25 years... accused ofpreaching ideas contrary to Communist doctrine."

"In 1967, Richard and Sabrina Wurmbrand founded a ministry that would serve the persecuted church. Its name was eventually changed toVoice of the Martyrs. By the mid-1980s, it was reaching out to "80 restricted nations with offices in 30 countries around the world." His book,Tortured for Christ, became a source of encouragement among the persecuted throughout the Soviet system."

Richard Wurmbrand's book about Karl Marx (1818 – 1883), a German "revolutionary socialist," begins with a rebuttal to this misconception: that Marx himself was a compassionate visionary who truly cared for the poor. In reality, both Marx and Engels grew up in wealthy families, far removed from the life of poverty. Together they pursued an anti-Christian utopia that -- from the beginning -- focused on political power, not on meeting the needs of the poor. Like today's seductive vision of change, their socialist/communist transformation required a "crisis" and a "purpose" that would capture public attention and provide the needed momentum.

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God plans on destroying Christianity and communism soon so there's nothing to worry about who is going to be in control in the future. Our invisible Creator has always been in control but Christians don't believe that.