Why did the Jewish God slaughter innocent babies?

[irosie91]

Question

Was Pharoah a first born?

you did not see the movie? Yul Brenner survived----but his first born son----died.
It is not clear to me if first born girls were "counted"

 

[aris2chat]

Question

Was Pharoah a first born?

He had an older sister Tia

 

[irosie91]

Question

Was Pharoah a first born?

He had an older sister Tia

did TIA get knocked off in the plague?

 

[RandomVariable]

When's the new Biblical translation coming out? The New Original Translation for USMB Smart Asses

 

[irosie91]

When's the new Biblical translation coming out? The New Original Translation for USMB Smart Asses

ya mean the DICK, JANE, AND SALLY version -------complete with little mary with golden braids riding a hobby horsie and stopping at an "inn" where she sleeps in the barn---in a haystack and
a stork drops a baby in her lap named 'jesus'? Angels fly around singing
SILENT NIGHT ~~~~~ and the wicked
inn-keeper eats bagels

 

[CMike]

The Jewish God killed all of the first born of Egypt to punish the Pharoah for enslaving the Israelites.
Some of these were innocent babies, no more than a year old.
How can a loving God do this?
Was there no better punishment? In all of his grace and wisdom, baby murder was the most appropriate punishment?
Why not just kill the Pharoah?
Why do Jews follow such a bloody and aggressive God???

1) There were already nine plagues. Each plague was increasingly severe. They didn't do the trick.

2) It was measure for measure. Pharaoh ordered the murder of all Jewish first born male babies.

3) The "good" Egyptians were not affected by the plagues

4) Those babies would grow up to enslave and beat Jews as well.

Some Egyptians even followed the Jews out of Egypt.

 

[CMike]

This is an interesting analysis.

Understanding Egypt - Torah.org

 

[CMike]

The Jewish God killed all of the first born of Egypt to punish the Pharoah for enslaving the Israelites.
Some of these were innocent babies, no more than a year old.
How can a loving God do this?
Was there no better punishment? In all of his grace and wisdom, baby murder was the most appropriate punishment?
Why not just kill the Pharoah?
Why do Jews follow such a bloody and aggressive God???

Do you really think that just killing off the Pharaoh would have made Egypt release thousands of slaves?

. In the end we all must die. We must trust that God is good and knows what is best. The children of the Egyptians were likely better off eternally to die without sin than to be raised under a wicked and idolatrous people.

The Egyptians were not idolatrous people, and that excuse is one the preachers need to do away with.

The Jews or Hebrews were not slaves in Egypt.There is not proof of that at all.

 

[CMike]

The Jewish God killed all of the first born of Egypt to punish the Pharoah for enslaving the Israelites.
Some of these were innocent babies, no more than a year old.
How can a loving God do this?
Was there no better punishment? In all of his grace and wisdom, baby murder was the most appropriate punishment?
Why not just kill the Pharoah?
Why do Jews follow such a bloody and aggressive God???

The same reasons that Christians and Muslims follow the Jewish God.

Christians do not follow the Jewish god, we wouldn't know which one to follow.They had many.

We have one. You have many.

 

[aris2chat]

Question

Was Pharoah a first born?

He had an older sister Tia

did TIA get knocked off in the plague?

She had two daughters and was buried with her husband in Saqqara. Don't know how she died.

 

[RandomVariable]

Totally random information. Reported 3 hours ago:
American Pharoah becomes first Triple Crown winner since 78 - NBC Sports NBC Sports

 

[aris2chat]

Totally random information. Reported 3 hours ago:
American Pharoah becomes first Triple Crown winner since 78 - NBC Sports NBC Sports

Current events or sports perhaps but this has nothing to do with religion.

 

[zaangalewa]

The Jewish God killed all of the first born of Egypt to punish the Pharoah for enslaving the Israelites.
Some of these were innocent babies, no more than a year old.
How can a loving God do this?

He was the God of the Jews, not the Egyptians. ...

Could be interesting to know how many mistakes are existing in only this little sentence. I'm quite sure everyone had a chance - before the own intentional ignorance killed him and/or others. God gave them lots of chances and people inspired from his world warned and warned and warned ...

Nah, it's pretty accurate. Jews don't like to acknowledge their history much,

Ah an antisemite. Dear idiot mine, you are speaking with the wrong person. I'm German with jewish roots. For me is this what the world decided to call "holocaust" a fratricide.

as Judaism was a tribal religion,

A religion of 12 tribes.

built around being The Chosen people

Another expression is "people of god".

and heavily racist in practice and theology.

It's not new for me that antisemites try to call Jews racists. But Jews are existing in all colors in this world. Antichristians or antisemsites like you give me the feeing there's no chance for the mankind to survive any longer. Germans had not much time to think in the exploding new situations from 1933-1945. You had time. In my point of view "people like you" (= new Nazis) are thousands and millions of times more dangeorus for this world than the old Nazis. You know what had happened. So why do you say such stupid things?

Many confuse it with the universality of Christianity,

"Many" confuse what the Jew Jesus said about the jewish religion to jewish people with the jewish religion?

which was a reformed version that made it a universal theology inclusive of other peoplles, the main reason christians were persecuted by Jews for a long time after it began.

Catholics and Protestants for example murdered 50%-66% of all people in Germany in the 30 years war. This was in 1618-1648. A unbelievable desaster what leaded to the "Westfälischer Friede" (Peace of Westphalia). It was the first time a war was not won or lost but solved with negotiations.

I don't know who would have been 'warned', since no other peoples could read the language nor speak it, and the Jewish priesthood was hereditary and most of the theology was taught orally and limited to a select few. they drew exhaustive and minute distinctions in class and racial purity. Their downfall as a people is due directly to their racial exclusiveness, which left them a small tribe over the centuries. their theology applied only to them, others not being 'worthy'.

The warnings are subsumized under the expression "let my people go" - the sense is: "let my people be free". And let me continue in this tradition with a warning, because you will continue to damage your life otherwise: Leave your way of hate and turnover to the way of love. Life was not easy for the Jews since thousands of years. But they are still alive with the help of god.

 

[Picaro]

Ah an antisemite. Dear idiot mine, you are speaking with the wrong person. I'm German with jewish roots. For me is this what the world decided to call "holocaust" a fratricide.

No, I'm not an antisemite; you and Rose91 are big with the name-calling, eh? Both of you come across as idiots, especially with your attacks on people who might disagree with your bigoted views.

t's not new for me that antisemites try to call Jews racists. But Jews are existing in all colors in this world. Antichristians or antisemsites like you give me the feeing there's no chance for the mankind to survive any longer. Germans had not much time to think in the exploding new situations from 1933-1945. You had time. In my point of view "people like you" (= new Nazis) are thousands and millions of times more dangeorus for this world than the old Nazis. You know what had happened. So why do you say such stupid things?

More nonsense. Are you hoping to play the perpetual victim card, and 'Jews were always nice and peaceful', completely unlike the entire rest of the planet?

We can look at JEwish culture at the time of Jesus; you think we won't find anything that smacks of racism and bigotry in Jewish society? Even the Temple was separated into parts 'unpure' Jews weren't allowed to enter, for instance. Want more, or are you just going to sling garbage ad homs around as responses?

"Many" confuse what the Jew Jesus said about the jewish religion to jewish people with the jewish religion?

I guess this is an attempt at cleverness or something.

which was a reformed version that made it a universal theology inclusive of other peoplles, the main reason christians were persecuted by Jews for a long time after it began.

Catholics and Protestants for example murdered 50%-66% of all people in Germany in the 30 years war. This was in 1618-1648. A unbelievable desaster what leaded to the "Westfälischer Friede" (Peace of Westphalia). It was the first time a war was not won or lost but solved with negotiations.

It was a war between the Hapsburgs, France, and several other opponents, not a religious war. There is no point here, regardless of the myths surrounding that era.

The warnings are subsumized under the expression "let my people go" - the sense is: "let my people be free". And let me continue in this tradition with a warning, because you will continue to damage your life otherwise: Leave your way of hate and turnover to the way of love. Life was not easy for the Jews since thousands of years. But they are still alive with the help of god.

Doesn't refute what I said, just reinforces it. You should leave your way of smearing people and hating anybody who merely knows their history. And, life was not easy for most of the planet, so you're not special at all. Really now, calling people Nazis for knowing basic facts? lol how weak and lame.

 

[zaangalewa]

Ah an antisemite. Dear idiot mine, you are speaking with the wrong person. I'm German with jewish roots. For me is this what the world decided to call "holocaust" a fratricide.

No, I'm not an antisemite;

I'm happy to be wrong - but I don't believe this. You are an antisemite.

you and Rose91 are big with the name-calling, eh? Both of you come across as idiots, especially with your attacks on people who might disagree with your bigoted views.

You should not speak in such ways with idiots like me without wearing a solid armor of a knight. Take care not to lose your fingers in the war with your keyboard.

t's not new for me that antisemites try to call Jews racists. But Jews are existing in all colors in this world. Antichristians or antisemsites like you give me the feeing there's no chance for the mankind to survive any longer. Germans had not much time to think in the exploding new situations from 1933-1945. You had time. In my point of view "people like you" (= new Nazis) are thousands and millions of times more dangeorus for this world than the old Nazis. You know what had happened. So why do you say such stupid things?

More nonsense. Are you hoping to play the perpetual victim card, and 'Jews were always nice and peaceful', completely unlike the entire rest of the planet?

We can look at JEwish culture at the time of Jesus;

We can not. In all times of history lived complex human beings like we are ourselve. We have to learn a lot to be ourselve in our own traditions. We are never able to be someone else. Only if we are able to communicate directly with living human beings then we are able to get a good feeling for a foreign culture. You explain me in the moment a lot about your enculturation, socialisation and your way how to live.

...

It was a war between the Hapsburgs, France,

France? France had nearly nothing to do with the 30 years war. Scandinavia was a great actor.

and several other opponents, not a religious war. There is no point here, regardless of the myths surrounding that era.

The whole situation was indeed much more complex and is indeed not reduceable to religion. Nevertheless it was one of the results of the so called reformation a hundred years before this war and 50-66% of all Germans were brutally slaughtered in this war or had to die on hunger and pestilence.

The warnings are subsumized under the expression "let my people go" - the sense is: "let my people be free". And let me continue in this tradition with a warning, because you will continue to damage your life otherwise: Leave your way of hate and turnover to the way of love. Life was not easy for the Jews since thousands of years. But they are still alive with the help of god.

Doesn't refute what I said, just reinforces it. You should leave your way of smearing people and hating anybody who merely knows their history. And, life was not easy for most of the planet, so you're not special at all. Really now, calling people Nazis for knowing basic facts? lol how weak and lame.

 

[Picaro]

Ah an antisemite. Dear idiot mine, you are speaking with the wrong person. I'm German with jewish roots. For me is this what the world decided to call "holocaust" a fratricide.

No, I'm not an antisemite;

I'm happy to be wrong - but I don't believe this. You are an antisemite.

Lol because you say so ... shall we go through Jewish history to show just how full of baloney you are? Or, can we just cite the scads of modern examples of Jewish racism?

you and Rose91 are big with the name-calling, eh? Both of you come across as idiots, especially with your attacks on people who might disagree with your bigoted views.

You should not speak in such ways with idiots like me without wearing a solid armor of a knight. Take care not to lose your fingers in the war with your keyboard.

You're no challenge at all, just another bigot hoping to shut down any questioning of your nonsense re Jewish history.

t's not new for me that antisemites try to call Jews racists. But Jews are existing in all colors in this world. Antichristians or antisemsites like you give me the feeing there's no chance for the mankind to survive any longer. Germans had not much time to think in the exploding new situations from 1933-1945. You had time. In my point of view "people like you" (= new Nazis) are thousands and millions of times more dangeorus for this world than the old Nazis. You know what had happened. So why do you say such stupid things?

More nonsense. Are you hoping to play the perpetual victim card, and 'Jews were always nice and peaceful', completely unlike the entire rest of the planet?

We can look at JEwish culture at the time of Jesus;

We can not. In all times of history lived complex human beings like we are ourselve. We have to learn a lot to be ourselve in our own traditions. We are never able to be someone else. Only if we are able to communicate directly with living human beings then we are able to get a good feeling for a foreign culture. You explain me in the moment a lot about your enculturation, socialisation and your way how to live.

Yes, we very much can; Jews themselves have documented it thoroughly.

...

It was a war between the Hapsburgs, France,

France? France had nearly nothing to do with the 30 years war. Scandinavia was a great actor.

Don't be even more ridiculous; France had a major role in the 30 Years War. Your European history is just as bad as your Jewish history knowledge.

and several other opponents, not a religious war. There is no point here, regardless of the myths surrounding that era.

The whole situation was indeed much more complex and is indeed not reduceable to religion. Nevertheless it was one of the results of the so called reformation a hundred years before this war and 50-66% of all Germans were brutally slaughtered in this war or had to die on hunger and pestilence.

Lots of hyperbole, no real rebuttals; wars in Europe were political wars; whether that fits your biases or not is irrelevant.

The warnings are subsumized under the expression "let my people go" - the sense is: "let my people be free". And let me continue in this tradition with a warning, because you will continue to damage your life otherwise: Leave your way of hate and turnover to the way of love. Life was not easy for the Jews since thousands of years. But they are still alive with the help of god.

lol what hate??? I guess this is an admission you have no rebuttals of what was said. Punching holes in your fictions isn't 'hate', but you certainly hope to dismiss your own gibberish as 'love' or something?

Doesn't refute what I said, just reinforces it. You should leave your way of smearing people and hating anybody who merely knows their history. And, life was not easy for most of the planet, so you're not special at all. Really now, calling people Nazis for knowing basic facts? lol how weak and lame.

You and Rosie sound more like those neo-nazis who run around the innernetz pretending to be Jews and insulting Christians at every opportunity. Both of you are working hard at making Jews look like total assholes.

 

[Penelope]

The Jewish God killed all of the first born of Egypt to punish the Pharoah for enslaving the Israelites.
Some of these were innocent babies, no more than a year old.
How can a loving God do this?
Was there no better punishment? In all of his grace and wisdom, baby murder was the most appropriate punishment?
Why not just kill the Pharoah?
Why do Jews follow such a bloody and aggressive God???

The same reasons that Christians and Muslims follow the Jewish God.

Christians do not follow the Jewish god, we wouldn't know which one to follow.They had many.

You should crack open a Bible.

And read what specifically. our of the bible there was no exodus, its not a history book but handed down stories . Also hebews were not monotheistic, you should read the Bible.

 

[Penelope]

Ah an antisemite. Dear idiot mine, you are speaking with the wrong person. I'm German with jewish roots. For me is this what the world decided to call "holocaust" a fratricide.

No, I'm not an antisemite; you and Rose91 are big with the name-calling, eh? Both of you come across as idiots, especially with your attacks on people who might disagree with your bigoted views.

t's not new for me that antisemites try to call Jews racists. But Jews are existing in all colors in this world. Antichristians or antisemsites like you give me the feeing there's no chance for the mankind to survive any longer. Germans had not much time to think in the exploding new situations from 1933-1945. You had time. In my point of view "people like you" (= new Nazis) are thousands and millions of times more dangeorus for this world than the old Nazis. You know what had happened. So why do you say such stupid things?

More nonsense. Are you hoping to play the perpetual victim card, and 'Jews were always nice and peaceful', completely unlike the entire rest of the planet?

We can look at JEwish culture at the time of Jesus; you think we won't find anything that smacks of racism and bigotry in Jewish society? Even the Temple was separated into parts 'unpure' Jews weren't allowed to enter, for instance. Want more, or are you just going to sling garbage ad homs around as responses?

"Many" confuse what the Jew Jesus said about the jewish religion to jewish people with the jewish religion?

I guess this is an attempt at cleverness or something.

which was a reformed version that made it a universal theology inclusive of other peoplles, the main reason christians were persecuted by Jews for a long time after it began.

Catholics and Protestants for example murdered 50%-66% of all people in Germany in the 30 years war. This was in 1618-1648. A unbelievable desaster what leaded to the "Westfälischer Friede" (Peace of Westphalia). It was the first time a war was not won or lost but solved with negotiations.

It was a war between the Hapsburgs, France, and several other opponents, not a religious war. There is no point here, regardless of the myths surrounding that era.

The warnings are subsumized under the expression "let my people go" - the sense is: "let my people be free". And let me continue in this tradition with a warning, because you will continue to damage your life otherwise: Leave your way of hate and turnover to the way of love. Life was not easy for the Jews since thousands of years. But they are still alive with the help of god.

Doesn't refute what I said, just reinforces it. You should leave your way of smearing people and hating anybody who merely knows their history. And, life was not easy for most of the planet, so you're not special at all. Really now, calling people Nazis for knowing basic facts? lol how weak and lame.

Name calling is what they do, jews are alive due to knowing how to fight, having money, nukes, state of the art military, and the Balfour Declaration which they didn't follow. Killing who ever gets in their way is what they do, false flags is their specialty.

 

[Picaro]

Ah an antisemite. Dear idiot mine, you are speaking with the wrong person. I'm German with jewish roots. For me is this what the world decided to call "holocaust" a fratricide.

No, I'm not an antisemite; you and Rose91 are big with the name-calling, eh? Both of you come across as idiots, especially with your attacks on people who might disagree with your bigoted views.

t's not new for me that antisemites try to call Jews racists. But Jews are existing in all colors in this world. Antichristians or antisemsites like you give me the feeing there's no chance for the mankind to survive any longer. Germans had not much time to think in the exploding new situations from 1933-1945. You had time. In my point of view "people like you" (= new Nazis) are thousands and millions of times more dangeorus for this world than the old Nazis. You know what had happened. So why do you say such stupid things?

More nonsense. Are you hoping to play the perpetual victim card, and 'Jews were always nice and peaceful', completely unlike the entire rest of the planet?

We can look at JEwish culture at the time of Jesus; you think we won't find anything that smacks of racism and bigotry in Jewish society? Even the Temple was separated into parts 'unpure' Jews weren't allowed to enter, for instance. Want more, or are you just going to sling garbage ad homs around as responses?

"Many" confuse what the Jew Jesus said about the jewish religion to jewish people with the jewish religion?

I guess this is an attempt at cleverness or something.

which was a reformed version that made it a universal theology inclusive of other peoplles, the main reason christians were persecuted by Jews for a long time after it began.

Catholics and Protestants for example murdered 50%-66% of all people in Germany in the 30 years war. This was in 1618-1648. A unbelievable desaster what leaded to the "Westfälischer Friede" (Peace of Westphalia). It was the first time a war was not won or lost but solved with negotiations.

It was a war between the Hapsburgs, France, and several other opponents, not a religious war. There is no point here, regardless of the myths surrounding that era.

The warnings are subsumized under the expression "let my people go" - the sense is: "let my people be free". And let me continue in this tradition with a warning, because you will continue to damage your life otherwise: Leave your way of hate and turnover to the way of love. Life was not easy for the Jews since thousands of years. But they are still alive with the help of god.

Doesn't refute what I said, just reinforces it. You should leave your way of smearing people and hating anybody who merely knows their history. And, life was not easy for most of the planet, so you're not special at all. Really now, calling people Nazis for knowing basic facts? lol how weak and lame.

Name calling is what they do, jews are alive due to knowing how to fight, having money, nukes, state of the art military, and the Balfour Declaration which they didn't follow. Killing who ever gets in their way is what they do, false flags is their specialty.

Well, to be fair Orthodox Jews have no problem discussing the racial aspects of Judaism, so I don't see any 'false flags' on their part; they're pretty honest and open about it.

Judaism Culture and the Gentile World A Conversation with Rabbi Mayer Schiller

The Rabbi in the above interview actually makes many good points; he isn't trying to fool anybody. He also isn't fond of secular Jewish hypocrisy in American Jews re democracy and culture.

OzTorah Blog Archive Jewish attitudes to Gentiles in the First Century

This article has some contrasts to the orthodox view, some of which are attempts at 'moderating' orthodox views, but manages to come across as deceptive and misrepresentation.

Rabbis married to gentiles Mark S. Miller The Blogs The Times of Israel

Another example of the fundamentally racist nature of Judaism still causing problems for Jews themselves.

40 rabbis Jews shouldn t rent sell homes to gentiles - Jewish World - Jerusalem Post

No false flags here, certainly.

 

[irosie91]

Ah an antisemite. Dear idiot mine, you are speaking with the wrong person. I'm German with jewish roots. For me is this what the world decided to call "holocaust" a fratricide.

No, I'm not an antisemite; you and Rose91 are big with the name-calling, eh? Both of you come across as idiots, especially with your attacks on people who might disagree with your bigoted views.

t's not new for me that antisemites try to call Jews racists. But Jews are existing in all colors in this world. Antichristians or antisemsites like you give me the feeing there's no chance for the mankind to survive any longer. Germans had not much time to think in the exploding new situations from 1933-1945. You had time. In my point of view "people like you" (= new Nazis) are thousands and millions of times more dangeorus for this world than the old Nazis. You know what had happened. So why do you say such stupid things?

More nonsense. Are you hoping to play the perpetual victim card, and 'Jews were always nice and peaceful', completely unlike the entire rest of the planet?

We can look at JEwish culture at the time of Jesus; you think we won't find anything that smacks of racism and bigotry in Jewish society? Even the Temple was separated into parts 'unpure' Jews weren't allowed to enter, for instance. Want more, or are you just going to sling garbage ad homs around as responses?

"Many" confuse what the Jew Jesus said about the jewish religion to jewish people with the jewish religion?

I guess this is an attempt at cleverness or something.

which was a reformed version that made it a universal theology inclusive of other peoplles, the main reason christians were persecuted by Jews for a long time after it began.

Catholics and Protestants for example murdered 50%-66% of all people in Germany in the 30 years war. This was in 1618-1648. A unbelievable desaster what leaded to the "Westfälischer Friede" (Peace of Westphalia). It was the first time a war was not won or lost but solved with negotiations.

It was a war between the Hapsburgs, France, and several other opponents, not a religious war. There is no point here, regardless of the myths surrounding that era.

The warnings are subsumized under the expression "let my people go" - the sense is: "let my people be free". And let me continue in this tradition with a warning, because you will continue to damage your life otherwise: Leave your way of hate and turnover to the way of love. Life was not easy for the Jews since thousands of years. But they are still alive with the help of god.

Doesn't refute what I said, just reinforces it. You should leave your way of smearing people and hating anybody who merely knows their history. And, life was not easy for most of the planet, so you're not special at all. Really now, calling people Nazis for knowing basic facts? lol how weak and lame.

Name calling is what they do, jews are alive due to knowing how to fight, having money, nukes, state of the art military, and the Balfour Declaration which they didn't follow. Killing who ever gets in their way is what they do, false flags is their specialty.

Ah an antisemite. Dear idiot mine, you are speaking with the wrong person. I'm German with jewish roots. For me is this what the world decided to call "holocaust" a fratricide.

No, I'm not an antisemite; you and Rose91 are big with the name-calling, eh? Both of you come across as idiots, especially with your attacks on people who might disagree with your bigoted views.

t's not new for me that antisemites try to call Jews racists. But Jews are existing in all colors in this world. Antichristians or antisemsites like you give me the feeing there's no chance for the mankind to survive any longer. Germans had not much time to think in the exploding new situations from 1933-1945. You had time. In my point of view "people like you" (= new Nazis) are thousands and millions of times more dangeorus for this world than the old Nazis. You know what had happened. So why do you say such stupid things?

More nonsense. Are you hoping to play the perpetual victim card, and 'Jews were always nice and peaceful', completely unlike the entire rest of the planet?

We can look at JEwish culture at the time of Jesus; you think we won't find anything that smacks of racism and bigotry in Jewish society? Even the Temple was separated into parts 'unpure' Jews weren't allowed to enter, for instance. Want more, or are you just going to sling garbage ad homs around as responses?

"Many" confuse what the Jew Jesus said about the jewish religion to jewish people with the jewish religion?

I guess this is an attempt at cleverness or something.

which was a reformed version that made it a universal theology inclusive of other peoplles, the main reason christians were persecuted by Jews for a long time after it began.

Catholics and Protestants for example murdered 50%-66% of all people in Germany in the 30 years war. This was in 1618-1648. A unbelievable desaster what leaded to the "Westfälischer Friede" (Peace of Westphalia). It was the first time a war was not won or lost but solved with negotiations.

It was a war between the Hapsburgs, France, and several other opponents, not a religious war. There is no point here, regardless of the myths surrounding that era.

The warnings are subsumized under the expression "let my people go" - the sense is: "let my people be free". And let me continue in this tradition with a warning, because you will continue to damage your life otherwise: Leave your way of hate and turnover to the way of love. Life was not easy for the Jews since thousands of years. But they are still alive with the help of god.

Doesn't refute what I said, just reinforces it. You should leave your way of smearing people and hating anybody who merely knows their history. And, life was not easy for most of the planet, so you're not special at all. Really now, calling people Nazis for knowing basic facts? lol how weak and lame.

I am intrigued with your knowledge of "basic fact" which lead some people to
call you a "Nazi"------can you please provide me with a few examples of those "basic facts"?