Why do Democrats talk like AR-15’s are autonomous unless a Caucasian is the shooter? Do they really believe that provokes productive discussion?

[Big Bend Texas]

Well, by that logic, the DGU didn't prevent ANY crimes, the crook just went on and looked for the next target.

Again, can't believe that the Ammosexuals are able to restrain themselves 99.99% of the time, given how often they fantasize about being like Zimmerman and Rittenhouse.

You are fabricating bullshit. The fact the gun deterred the bad guy is proof it works.

 

[JoeB131]

You are continuing to fabricate bullshit.

Martin told his "girl friend" he was going to stop and challenge Martin in court. He chose that confrontation, not Zimmerman.

Even if your claim were true, it was clearly established that Zimmerman's self defense rights were fully intact because Martin would not cease pounding him despite his please to do so and begging for help.

If he backed off, Martin wouldn't have felt the need to defend himself.

Shooting a child because he is kicking your fat doughy ass is not justified.

The blood spatter shows all of the shots were fired within 21" of where Wilson was standing and the impact wounds are all consistent with him charging towards Wilson when Wilson was firing.

21 feet away? So not in any immediate danger from a kid with his hands up.

Wilson was pissed. That's why mike brown died.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

If he backed off, Martin wouldn't have felt the need to defend himself.

Shooting a child because he is kicking your fat doughy ass is not justified.

He waiting in ambush for Zimmerman.

Even if you are the initial aggressor you regain your self defense rights by trying to leave or quit the confrontation especially

21 feet away? So not in any immediate danger from a kid with his hands up.

Wilson was pissed. That's why mike brown died.

if you are prevented from doing so.

You should stop making such a fool of yourself. The autopsy proved his hands were not up when he was shot.

Read up on the 21' Rule.

 

[Blues Man]

The high estimates are bullshit.
the low estimates are bullshit.

200 dead crooks. Nowhere near 300K or 3 million DGUs.



You mean after Zimmerman stalked him and cornered him and never identified himself as Neighborhood watch? After he was specifically told by the police NOT to chase the kid.



Are you fucking retarded? It was established that the struggle over the gun inside the car, and the shooting of Brown when he was 157 feet away from the car were two separate events.

Once again you are too stupid to realize that you do not need to kill a person to use a gun for self defense.

The mere drawing of a weapon most often stops the would be attacker

 

[JoeB131]

You should stop making such a fool of yourself. The autopsy proved his hands were not up when he was shot.

Read up on the 21' Rule.

Why, so the cops can lie about that, too?

The Autopsy can't prove his hands were up or down... The argument is that the holes in his shirt and body lined up. They would STILL line up if he raised his hands level with his head with his arms at a 45 degree angle.

He waiting in ambush for Zimmerman.

Even if you are the initial aggressor you regain your self defense rights by trying to leave or quit the confrontation especially

Except Zimmerman didn't try to leave.. he just got his ass kicked and shot a child.

 

[JoeB131]

Once again you are too stupid to realize that you do not need to kill a person to use a gun for self defense.

The mere drawing of a weapon most often stops the would be attacker

99.99? of the time? Very unlikely.

 

[Blues Man]

99.99? of the time? Very unlikely.

Considering there is a violent crime committed every 26 seconds it is very likely

 

[JoeB131]

Considering there is a violent crime committed every 26 seconds it is very likely

Not really. A violent crime can be two guys throwing fists.. not a good reason for anyone to be pointing guns at each other.

DGU's are bullshit.

 

[Blues Man]

Not really. A violent crime can be two guys throwing fists.. not a good reason for anyone to be pointing guns at each other.

DGU's are bullshit.

Not to mention all the violent crimes that do not get reported to the cops

The only bullshit here is the shit you have for brains

 

[struth]

Not really. A violent crime can be two guys throwing fists.. not a good reason for anyone to be pointing guns at each other.

DGU's are bullshit.

someone punching another person is actually a very good reason for that person to defend themselves

 

[struth]

Why, so the cops can lie about that, too?

The Autopsy can't prove his hands were up or down... The argument is that the holes in his shirt and body lined up. They would STILL line up if he raised his hands level with his head with his arms at a 45 degree angle.



Except Zimmerman didn't try to leave.. he just got his ass kicked and shot a child.

so you have no eve ike to support your claims about Martin’s attack on Zimmerman….and what evidence that does exist that’s been set in the record at trail is lies…gotcha

 

[JoeB131]

someone punching another person is actually a very good reason for that person to defend themselves

Not really. Most people will survive a fist fight.

The fact is, only 200 gun homicides a year by civilians are ruled as justified. Out of 16,000 gun homicides a year. So that's a lot of fist fights that got out of hand.

so you have no eve ike to support your claims about Martin’s attack on Zimmerman….and what evidence that does exist that’s been set in the record at trail is lies…gotcha

Is English even your first language? Are you a Russian Troll?

 

[struth]

Not really. Most people will survive a fist fight.

The fact is, only 200 gun homicides a year by civilians are ruled as justified. Out of 16,000 gun homicides a year. So that's a lot of fist fights that got out of hand.


Is English even your first language? Are you a Russian Troll?

you don’t have to use the firearm to defend yourself…most are broke up by simply showing it

 

[JoeB131]

you don’t have to use the firearm to defend yourself…most are broke up by simply showing it

Again, 300K or 3 million times... just not credible.

Someone is angry or desperate enough to commit a crime, they aren't going to be easily dissuaded 99.998% of the time.

 

[struth]

Again, 300K or 3 million times... just not credible.

Someone is angry or desperate enough to commit a crime, they aren't going to be easily dissuaded 99.998% of the time.

I would agree that in a nation of so many firearms, it's very rare that one is necessary for self-defense. That's a good thing.

 

[JoeB131]

I would agree that in a nation of so many firearms, it's very rare that one is necessary for self-defense. That's a good thing.

Except countries without firearms have far less murder and crime than we do.

 

[struth]

Except countries without firearms have far less murder and crime than we do.

not really true at all

 

[2aguy]

Mass shooting largely seems to be a white thing. BUt we talked about it when it was an Asian kid at VA Tech, or a Hispanic kid at Uvalde.

You mean except for the last two…..a communist Chinese man, and an 18 year old Hispanic…….the blm black guy who murdered 6 police officers……the pulse night club shooter….the California Christmas shooting the husband and wife….the Muslim at Fort hood….. the Long Island Train shooter….

But keep telling yourself that

 

[2aguy]

Except countries without firearms have far less murder and crime than we do.

No, the governments do their murder…15 million innocent men, women and children in just 6 years… more people than all of the gun murder in the aU.S.

 

[JoeB131]

You mean except for the last two…..a communist Chinese man, and an 18 year old Hispanic…….the blm black guy who murdered 6 police officers……the pulse night club shooter….the California Christmas shooting the husband and wife….the Muslim at Fort hood….. the Long Island Train shooter….

But keep telling yourself that

All those cases got talked about. I guess the problem is that we have so many damned mass shootings we can't talk about them all, can we?

No, the governments do their murder…15 million innocent men, women and children in just 6 years… more people than all of the gun murder in the aU.S.

Uh, yeah, War is shitty and it sucks... and guns don't prevent them.