Why do democrats think that the purpose of government is to go into debt?

[OohPooPahDoo]

BTW, if you took every penny from the evil rich it would not come close to paying off our national debt.

Prove it.

 

[Rozman]

So how many times do I have to post the Cheney quote that "Deficits do not matter." IN 2001 NO LESS!

What is the difference now? Oh year, a Black Democrat is in office. GOTCHA!

Dick Cheney offers the GOP familiar advice on spending - Washington Post

So how many times do we have to hear that race is an issue whenever
someone is critical of the President.

 

[ScienceRocks]

So how many times do I have to post the Cheney quote that "Deficits do not matter." IN 2001 NO LESS!

What is the difference now? Oh year, a Black Democrat is in office. GOTCHA!

Dick Cheney offers the GOP familiar advice on spending - Washington Post

So how many times do we have to hear that race is an issue whenever
someone is critical of the President.

Democrats love to cause racial hatred. This is how they keep blacks voting for them and not thinking about their personal freedom that would probably make them become republicans. The democrats are masters at dividing and causing hatred between the groups, sexes, races, etc.

This is all you fucking heard last election. It was sad.

 

[KevinWestern]

BTW, if you took every penny from the evil rich it would not come close to paying off our national debt.

Prove it.

It's actually just a simple mathematical equation based on reported income. Taxation will obviously help close the gap to a degree, but it cannot pay off the entire debt.

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[regent]

The public debt has only been paid off once in our history, and that was by a Democratic president. Republicans talk of the evil-debt but then Reagan tripled the debt with his trickle-down and Bush, then went ahead and doubled it. Yet there are Americans that believe it is the Republicans that want to reduce the debt. The real question is how can Republicans get so many Americans to believe they are the fiscally conservatives?

 

[Redfish]

The public debt has only been paid off once in our history, and that was by a Democratic president. Republicans talk of the evil-debt but then Reagan tripled the debt with his trickle-down and Bush, then went ahead and doubled it. Yet there are Americans that believe it is the Republicans that want to reduce the debt. The real question is how can Republicans get so many Americans to believe they are the fiscally conservatives?

more deflection. debt is wrong no matter who does it. we did not support it when Reagan and Bush did it. But your deflection from the FACT that obama has run up more debt than all previous presidents combined is noted.

Anyone from either party that does not want to reduce the debt is either a moron or a traitor.

Barry himself in 08 said that running up the debt was unpatriotic and a disaster---then he proceeded to double the debt in 4 years.

How can you support this lying bastard?

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Just think how great the economy could be if bureaucrats could confiscate 90% of all wealth and earnings and redistribute that fairly and for the common good.............LOL

 

[regent]

"A national debt is if it is not excessive will be to us a national blessing."
Alexander Hamilton a good conservative and America's first Secretary of the Treasury.

 

[Redfish]

"A national debt is if it is not excessive will be to us a national blessing."
Alexander Hamilton a good conservative and America's first Secretary of the Treasury.

I think you screwed up the quote, but the important part is highlighted.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

"A national debt is if it is not excessive will be to us a national blessing."
Alexander Hamilton a good conservative and America's first Secretary of the Treasury.

By "us," he meant those people, including himself, who would get rich off the scheme.

 

[regent]

"A national debt is if it is not excessive will be to us a national blessing."
Alexander Hamilton a good conservative and America's first Secretary of the Treasury.

I think you screwed up the quote, but the important part is highlighted.

So what is excessive, and who decides? And as important, why would Hamilton, a good conservative, believe a national debt in any form would be a national blessing?

 

[Shoey]

Historically, National Debt and deficit spending reflects fiscal irresponsibility by both Democrats and Republicans. In fact, in the last 69 years, The U.S. government has managed to post a despicable 12 Federal budget surpluses. The debt to income ratio of the United States Of America, primarily based upon disposable revenue, is roughly 10:1 or exceeds 1000% percent. When Congress raises the debt ceiling limit every fiscal year, our Congress literally demands that our children's grandchildren to sign on the dotted line to assume responsibility for our outragious spending today. The U.S. government spends nearly 40 cents on every American dollar that is borrowed from The Federal Reserve. We cannot afford to raise revenue to cover the costs of "new" expenditure spending as Congress would simply increase spending by raising the debt ceiling limit every fiscal year. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office has warned the US Congress and the President that the rising national debt and projected deficits are going to have far reaching negative impacts on America. That decrease in GDP growth has a cumulative impact as it is not replaced and results in fewer and lower paying jobs.

Obama, Congress warned: National debt growing faster

Budget Office reported Wednesday that the nation probably will owe outside creditors more than the size of the entire economy in 10 years.

The forecast -- a public debt equal to 101% of the economy in 2021, and rising to 187% by 2035 unless dramatic changes are made -- should be a warning to President Obama, Congress and Vice President Biden's band of bipartisan negotiators meeting daily to devise just a short-term fix.

By comparison, last year's long-term budget outlook from CBO forecast a public debt equal to 87% of the economy by 2020. The difference -- 14% -- would be about $2 trillion based on today's economy, even more as it grows.

Obama, Congress warned: National debt growing faster

 

[editec]

point counter point on a similar thread.

Why do you on the left think that the government should continually spend more than it takes in and then borrow the shortfall from countries that view us an enemies?

where does the borrowing and debt end? Is 17 trillion enough? Should the country be 30 trillion in debt?

BTW, if you took every penny from the evil rich it would not come close to paying off our national debt.

Why did Alan Greenspan -- darling of the right wing conservatives, devotee of Ayn Rand -- conclude that if the USA paid off its national debt it would spell DISASTER for the worlds economies


Doubt me?

READ HIS BOOK

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/dp/0143114166]The Age of Turbulence: Adventures in a New World: Alan Greenspan: 9780143114161: Amazon.com: Books[/ame]

 

[TemplarKormac]

BTW, if you took every penny from the evil rich it would not come close to paying off our national debt.

Prove it.

John Stossel: Tax The Rich? The Rich Don't Have Enough. Really. - Forbes

 

[rdean]

point counter point on a similar thread.

Why do you on the left think that the government should continually spend more than it takes in and then borrow the shortfall from countries that view us an enemies?

where does the borrowing and debt end? Is 17 trillion enough? Should the country be 30 trillion in debt?

BTW, if you took every penny from the evil rich it would not come close to paying off our national debt.

You're right. Without tax cuts during a time of two unfunded wars and the drugs for votes bill cost trillions and the cost of taking care of nearly 50,000 Americans maimed in Iraq, we would have continued to have the Clinton "surplus". Thanks for pointing that out. Now we are just trying to help out the millions of Americans whose lives were ruined by Republican policies. I know, I know, "Let them die". But most Americans don't really feel that way.

 

[TemplarKormac]

point counter point on a similar thread.

Why do you on the left think that the government should continually spend more than it takes in and then borrow the shortfall from countries that view us an enemies?

where does the borrowing and debt end? Is 17 trillion enough? Should the country be 30 trillion in debt?

BTW, if you took every penny from the evil rich it would not come close to paying off our national debt.

You're right. Without tax cuts during a time of two unfunded wars and the drugs for votes bill cost trillions and the cost of taking care of nearly 50,000 Americans maimed in Iraq, we would have continued to have the Clinton "surplus". Thanks for pointing that out. Now we are just trying to help out the millions of Americans whose lives were ruined by Republican policies. I know, I know, "Let them die". But most Americans don't really feel that way.

An Alan Grayson wannabe speaks. "Bush did it, and Republicans want people to die."

Rofl, you loon.

 

[regent]

Our history seems to be one of Republicans getting into office, giving tax breaks and other things to the wealthy, and soon the nation faces another recession/depression Democrats are then elected to straighten out the economy and when all is shippy-shape the Republicans get elected again and the whole pattern is repeated. The question is how does this happen? What are the magic words the Republicans use to get reelected? Do we feel guilty not giving Republicans their turn at running the nation, do new generations come along and believe the Republican promises. And one tactic Republicans use is that the Democrats didn't cure the economy quicker after Republican recession/depression. Is it the Republican promises that everyone will become rich as their candidates i.e. Romney if we elect them?
Of course one tactic has been to change names and events, i.e. Truman becomes a Republican, and Hoover a Democrat; Republicans pay off our debt and Democrats borrow.
As to our debt, that debt has been paid off only once in our history and that by a Democratic president.

 

[DiamondDave]

Our history seems to be one of Republicans getting into office, giving tax breaks and other things to the wealthy, and soon the nation faces another recession/depression Democrats are then elected to straighten out the economy and when all is shippy-shape the Republicans get elected again and the whole pattern is repeated. The question is how does this happen? What are the magic words the Republicans use to get reelected? Do we feel guilty not giving Republicans their turn at running the nation, do new generations come along and believe the Republican promises. And one tactic Republicans use is that the Democrats didn't cure the economy quicker after Republican recession/depression. Is it the Republican promises that everyone will become rich as their candidates i.e. Romney if we elect them?
Of course one tactic has been to change names and events, i.e. Truman becomes a Republican, and Hoover a Democrat; Republicans pay off our debt and Democrats borrow.
As to our debt, that debt has been paid off only once in our history and that by a Democratic president.

Yet you refuse to admit that the DEM or liberal programs and the spending on them are what drives the debt... and when you have that high spending and high taxation, it is a super drain... it should not be.. there is no reason why ANY citizen should be paying anywhere close to 50% of their earnings in total taxation... think of it, the government and progressive thought makes it seem like HALF of what you earn should not be yours

Now... what Republicans should have done is when you cut taxation, you should also cut spending. Bush II was horrible fiscally because of this... and there should also be no citizen who earns even one dollar in income paying zero in income tax on their earnings... this pandering has put us in financial trouble as much as the spending itself

 

[regent]

Our history seems to be one of Republicans getting into office, giving tax breaks and other things to the wealthy, and soon the nation faces another recession/depression Democrats are then elected to straighten out the economy and when all is shippy-shape the Republicans get elected again and the whole pattern is repeated. The question is how does this happen? What are the magic words the Republicans use to get reelected? Do we feel guilty not giving Republicans their turn at running the nation, do new generations come along and believe the Republican promises. And one tactic Republicans use is that the Democrats didn't cure the economy quicker after Republican recession/depression. Is it the Republican promises that everyone will become rich as their candidates i.e. Romney if we elect them?
Of course one tactic has been to change names and events, i.e. Truman becomes a Republican, and Hoover a Democrat; Republicans pay off our debt and Democrats borrow.
As to our debt, that debt has been paid off only once in our history and that by a Democratic president.

Yet you refuse to admit that the DEM or liberal programs and the spending on them are what drives the debt... and when you have that high spending and high taxation, it is a super drain... it should not be.. there is no reason why ANY citizen should be paying anywhere close to 50% of their earnings in total taxation... think of it, the government and progressive thought makes it seem like HALF of what you earn should not be yours

Now... what Republicans should have done is when you cut taxation, you should also cut spending. Bush II was horrible fiscally because of this... and there should also be no citizen who earns even one dollar in income paying zero in income tax on their earnings... this pandering has put us in financial trouble as much as the spending itself

What did Bush spend money on? He spent it on two useless wars, and tax cuts to the wealthy.
What are Democrats spending money on, trying to finish off that last Bush war and get the nation moving again economically. Ordinarily at this stage of the recession the Democrats again control the government but this time the Republicans have a majority in the House, and the House Republican's goal is to make the Obama fail and thus the nation fail. So it's taking the Democrats longer to get the country moving again. I wonder if people remember how close we came to a full blown depression? Maybe that's the reason Historians have rated Bush as the second worst economic president the US has ever had.

 

[DiamondDave]

Our history seems to be one of Republicans getting into office, giving tax breaks and other things to the wealthy, and soon the nation faces another recession/depression Democrats are then elected to straighten out the economy and when all is shippy-shape the Republicans get elected again and the whole pattern is repeated. The question is how does this happen? What are the magic words the Republicans use to get reelected? Do we feel guilty not giving Republicans their turn at running the nation, do new generations come along and believe the Republican promises. And one tactic Republicans use is that the Democrats didn't cure the economy quicker after Republican recession/depression. Is it the Republican promises that everyone will become rich as their candidates i.e. Romney if we elect them?
Of course one tactic has been to change names and events, i.e. Truman becomes a Republican, and Hoover a Democrat; Republicans pay off our debt and Democrats borrow.
As to our debt, that debt has been paid off only once in our history and that by a Democratic president.

Yet you refuse to admit that the DEM or liberal programs and the spending on them are what drives the debt... and when you have that high spending and high taxation, it is a super drain... it should not be.. there is no reason why ANY citizen should be paying anywhere close to 50% of their earnings in total taxation... think of it, the government and progressive thought makes it seem like HALF of what you earn should not be yours

Now... what Republicans should have done is when you cut taxation, you should also cut spending. Bush II was horrible fiscally because of this... and there should also be no citizen who earns even one dollar in income paying zero in income tax on their earnings... this pandering has put us in financial trouble as much as the spending itself

What did Bush spend money on? He spent it on two useless wars, and tax cuts to the wealthy.
What are Democrats spending money on, trying to finish off that last Bush war and get the nation moving again economically. Ordinarily at this stage of the recession the Democrats again control the government but this time the Republicans have a majority in the House, and the House Republican's goal is to make the Obama fail and thus the nation fail. So it's taking the Democrats longer to get the country moving again. I wonder if people remember how close we came to a full blown depression? Maybe that's the reason Historians have rated Bush as the second worst economic president the US has ever had.

1) Opinion of a war does not negate the federal charge to defend the country and supply the military
2) Tax cuts are not a cost, it is a reduction in income.. you are not SPENDING on tax cuts
3) DEMs are spending on social programs, entitlements, bailouts, stimulus, pet projects, studies on monkey farts, etc/// it is not just spending on past wars.. but nice try
4) It is not a revenue problem... it is a spending problem... and Obamalama is even worse on spending than Bush II... even with his insistence on raising the taxes on just a few, while keeping large #'s of people paying zero income tax (and wrongfully so)