Why do democrats want open borders? let's face facts

[Hollie]

Quite the accusation! What is the evidence that Dems are willfully importing criminal illegals and terrorists?

The open borders.

 

[alang1216]

Because it is against the law, as Trump found out when he tried to do it. The Senate bill would have given Biden legal cover and he said he would do it but the GOP and Trump prefer a campaign issue over national security.

Liar. Every Action of the Habitual Liar Biden was to cause the flood.

Easy accusation to make, not so easy to back up. What did I lie about?

 

[rightwinger]

In direct refutation to your post #133.

So, getting back to the OP

The scheme of Democrats is to open the border so that illegals can vote on School Boards?

 

[alang1216]

The open borders.

Not thick enough, sorry. I don't recall Biden or any Dem saying they want open borders and he has done nothing to encourage criminals or terrorists. Should our President enforce our laws or ignore laws he doesn't like? If the former, your beef is with Congress, if the later, maybe the USA is not the country for you.

 

[Care4all]

Illegal needs to be 0.

HR2 forces remain in Mexico til hearing.

Asylum seekers aren't illegal, until they have been turned down for asylum in immigration court. About 50% crossing are asylum seekers.

 

[eagle1462010]

Quite the accusation! What is the evidence that Dems are willfully importing criminal illegals and terrorists?

Sure they are 10 million angels.

Awee

 

[Hollie]

Not thick enough, sorry. I don't recall Biden or any Dem saying they want open borders and he has done nothing to encourage criminals or terrorists. Should our President enforce our laws or ignore laws he doesn't like? If the former, your beef is with Congress, if the later, maybe the USA is not the country for you.

Not an answer, sorry.

Actions speak with the utmost clarity.

Biden's EO's hsve made it clear he wants open borders and a future class of welfare dependent minions as future voters.

Encouraging criminals and terrorists is accomplished by treatment of the illegal immigrant killer of "Lincoln" Riley. Arrested, charges dropped and fled the state.

 

[BlindBoo]

So, getting back to the OP

The scheme of Democrats is to open the border so that illegals can vote on School Boards?

In 13 municipalities out of 19,429. Sneaky people those Democrats.

 

[Hollie]

So, getting back to the OP

The scheme of Democrats is to open the border so that illegals can vote on School Boards?

The Scheme of the Dems / Socialists is to import a welfare dependent, future voting class.

A "pathway to citizenship" has been the announced goal.

 

[BlindBoo]

Not an answer, sorry.

Actions speak with the utmost clarity.

Biden's EO's hsve made it clear he wants open borders and a future class of welfare dependent minions as future voters.

Encouraging criminals and terrorists is accomplished by treatment of the illegal immigrant killer of "Lincoln" Riley. Arrested, charges dropped and fled the state.

"Practically since his first week in office, President Joe Biden has faced repeated criticisms from Republicans and some Democrats that his border policy amounts to “open borders.” This criticism is not simply inaccurate: it is unhinged from reality in a way that distinguishes itself from normal political hyperbole. Indeed, U.S. immigration policy is effectively closed borders, and Biden’s immigration policies and goals are largely the same as those of President Donald Trump."

https://www.cato.org/blog/bidens-border-policy-not-open-borders

Under U.S. immigration law, it is illegal for anyone in the world to travel or immigrate to the United States unless they fall into very narrow exceptions. Like Alcohol Prohibition—which had exemptions for religious, medicinal, or industrial purposes—America’s immigration prohibition’s small exceptions are irrelevant for the vast majority of potential immigrants. Effectively, if they don’t qualify as a select few high skilled workers or family members of U.S. citizens, they can’t come legally.

President Biden has not suddenly ended America’s immigration prohibition and opened up U.S. borders to almost anyone who wants to come (as was largely America’s immigration policy from 1776 to 1924). Instead, he has far more vigorously enforced immigration prohibition than the law requires, narrowing the few exceptions to the universal ban on legal immigration.

For example, one exception is for those facing persecution in their home countries. Biden has undisputed authority under the law to admit as many refugees from abroad as he wants. The president sets the limit and picks whoever he considers “of concern” to the United States. Yet Biden is on pace to admit the fewest refugees in the history of the U.S. refugee program, fewer than 10,000.

He won’t let refugees in from abroad. But the law explicitly allows refugees to ask for asylum at U.S. borders even if they don’t have permission: anyone “who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival … ), irrespective of [their legal] status, may apply for asylum.” In 1996, Congress clarified that agents “shall refer [any asylum seeker] for an interview by an asylum officer.”

Yet Biden won’t follow that either. He has continued a Trump ban on “nonessential travel” at U.S. land ports of entry and requesting asylum isn’t essential. So because they can’t come in legally, they cross illegally, and since the law says they can apply “whether or not at a designated port of entry, irrespective of their legal status,” they should still have the right to request asylum."

But Biden is using another Trump policy known as “Title 42 expulsion” to immediately deport as many asylum seekers and border crossers as possible without hearing their asylum claims. He’s mostly dumping them in Mexico, just as Trump did with “Remain in Mexico,” just with a different name and on a much larger scale.

 

[scruffy]

Here is a fact to face, illegals don't get to vote.

That is a complete leftard LIE.

Illegals can vote in federal elections with president-only ballots.

They can also vote in MANY leftard municipalities, like SF and much of the Bay area.

 

[Hollie]

In 13 municipalities out of 19,429. Sneaky people those Democrats.

There's something about citizenship, (in addition to theyre very existence), that Dems / Socialists find repulsive.

Curious that we're told,

"Illegals don’t vote….PERIOD"

Which we know is false.

 

[rightwinger]

The Scheme of the Dems / Socialists is to import a welfare dependent, future voting class.

A "pathway to citizenship" has been the announced goal.

Yet, these immigrants are a vital part of our workforce and our economy depends on them.

I say give them temporary work visas and let them earn their keep.

 

[Hollie]

"Practically since his first week in office, President Joe Biden has faced repeated criticisms from Republicans and some Democrats that his border policy amounts to “open borders.” This criticism is not simply inaccurate: it is unhinged from reality in a way that distinguishes itself from normal political hyperbole. Indeed, U.S. immigration policy is effectively closed borders, and Biden’s immigration policies and goals are largely the same as those of President Donald Trump."

https://www.cato.org/blog/bidens-border-policy-not-open-borders

Under U.S. immigration law, it is illegal for anyone in the world to travel or immigrate to the United States unless they fall into very narrow exceptions. Like Alcohol Prohibition—which had exemptions for religious, medicinal, or industrial purposes—America’s immigration prohibition’s small exceptions are irrelevant for the vast majority of potential immigrants. Effectively, if they don’t qualify as a select few high skilled workers or family members of U.S. citizens, they can’t come legally.

President Biden has not suddenly ended America’s immigration prohibition and opened up U.S. borders to almost anyone who wants to come (as was largely America’s immigration policy from 1776 to 1924). Instead, he has far more vigorously enforced immigration prohibition than the law requires, narrowing the few exceptions to the universal ban on legal immigration.

For example, one exception is for those facing persecution in their home countries. Biden has undisputed authority under the law to admit as many refugees from abroad as he wants. The president sets the limit and picks whoever he considers “of concern” to the United States. Yet Biden is on pace to admit the fewest refugees in the history of the U.S. refugee program, fewer than 10,000.

He won’t let refugees in from abroad. But the law explicitly allows refugees to ask for asylum at U.S. borders even if they don’t have permission: anyone “who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival … ), irrespective of [their legal] status, may apply for asylum.” In 1996, Congress clarified that agents “shall refer [any asylum seeker] for an interview by an asylum officer.”

Yet Biden won’t follow that either. He has continued a Trump ban on “nonessential travel” at U.S. land ports of entry and requesting asylum isn’t essential. So because they can’t come in legally, they cross illegally, and since the law says they can apply “whether or not at a designated port of entry, irrespective of their legal status,” they should still have the right to request asylum."

But Biden is using another Trump policy known as “Title 42 expulsion” to immediately deport as many asylum seekers and border crossers as possible without hearing their asylum claims. He’s mostly dumping them in Mexico, just as Trump did with “Remain in Mexico,” just with a different name and on a much larger scale.

A long, tedious copy and paste from 2021.

 

[rightwinger]

That is a complete leftard LIE.

Illegals can vote in federal elections with president-only ballots.

They can also vote in MANY leftard municipalities, like SF and much of the Bay area.

linky, linky

 

[Hollie]

Yet, these immigrants are a vital part of our workforce and our economy depends on them.

I say give them temporary work visas and let them earn their keep.

You stole that tripe from the Joy Reid show.

Your illegal rapists and murderers are not earning anything.

 

[leftwinger]

Yet, these immigrants are a vital part of our workforce and our economy depends on them.

I say give them temporary work visas and let them earn their keep.

Other than the millions of criminals, perhaps some end up working? Women give birth go on the dole. Rapists rape, killers kill, kidnappers kindnap, gangbangers bang MS13 +Venezualan gangs now. They don't let the best come up here.

 

[rightwinger]

You stole that tripe from the Joy Reid show.

Your illegal rapists and murderers are not earning anything.

More bigotry on your part
You sound like Trump

 

[scruffy]

"Practically since his first week in office, President Joe Biden has faced repeated criticisms from Republicans and some Democrats that his border policy amounts to “open borders.” This criticism is not simply inaccurate: it is unhinged from reality in a way that distinguishes itself from normal political hyperbole. Indeed, U.S. immigration policy is effectively closed borders, and Biden’s immigration policies and goals are largely the same as those of President Donald Trump."

https://www.cato.org/blog/bidens-border-policy-not-open-borders

Under U.S. immigration law, it is illegal for anyone in the world to travel or immigrate to the United States unless they fall into very narrow exceptions. Like Alcohol Prohibition—which had exemptions for religious, medicinal, or industrial purposes—America’s immigration prohibition’s small exceptions are irrelevant for the vast majority of potential immigrants. Effectively, if they don’t qualify as a select few high skilled workers or family members of U.S. citizens, they can’t come legally.

President Biden has not suddenly ended America’s immigration prohibition and opened up U.S. borders to almost anyone who wants to come (as was largely America’s immigration policy from 1776 to 1924). Instead, he has far more vigorously enforced immigration prohibition than the law requires, narrowing the few exceptions to the universal ban on legal immigration.

For example, one exception is for those facing persecution in their home countries. Biden has undisputed authority under the law to admit as many refugees from abroad as he wants. The president sets the limit and picks whoever he considers “of concern” to the United States. Yet Biden is on pace to admit the fewest refugees in the history of the U.S. refugee program, fewer than 10,000.

He won’t let refugees in from abroad. But the law explicitly allows refugees to ask for asylum at U.S. borders even if they don’t have permission: anyone “who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival … ), irrespective of [their legal] status, may apply for asylum.” In 1996, Congress clarified that agents “shall refer [any asylum seeker] for an interview by an asylum officer.”

Yet Biden won’t follow that either. He has continued a Trump ban on “nonessential travel” at U.S. land ports of entry and requesting asylum isn’t essential. So because they can’t come in legally, they cross illegally, and since the law says they can apply “whether or not at a designated port of entry, irrespective of their legal status,” they should still have the right to request asylum."

But Biden is using another Trump policy known as “Title 42 expulsion” to immediately deport as many asylum seekers and border crossers as possible without hearing their asylum claims. He’s mostly dumping them in Mexico, just as Trump did with “Remain in Mexico,” just with a different name and on a much larger scale.

What a load of horseshit.

 

[rightwinger]

Other than the millions of criminals perhaps some end up working. Women give birth go on the dole. Rapists rape, killers kill, kidnappers kindnap. They don't let the best come up here.

Show us the number of rapists, killers and kidnappers vs the ten million working their ass off to get ahead