Why do Republicans bash socialism - when it's all around them?

[mudwhistle]

I hate the fact these socialists are around, should relocate to Venezuela.

Libertarians should relocate to Somalia.

Libertarians promote freedom, very American.

What American values do you promote?

The only difference between libertarians and liberals is small government VS massive government.

 

[Lesh]

Socialism is taxpayer funds being used collectively to benefit society as a whole, despite income, contribution, or ability.

Sounds horrible, huh?

Well I hate to be the one to tell you, but Socialism, which you have been told to fear all your life, is responsible for all this...

1. The Military/Defense - The United States military is the largest and most funded socialist program in the world. It operates thanks to our taxpayer dollars and protects the country as a whole. From the richest citizens to the homeless who sleep under the bridge. We are all protected by our military whether we pay taxes or not. This is complete socialism.

2. Highways/Roads - Those roads and highways you drive on every single day are completely taxpayer funded. Your tax dollars are used to maintain, expand, and preserve our highways and roads for every one's use. President Eisenhower was inspired by Germany's autobahn and implemented the idea right here in America. That's right, a republican president created our taxpayer funded, national highway system. This was a different time, before the republican party came down with a vicious case of rabies that never went away.

3. Public Libraries - Yes. That place where you go to check out books from conservative authors telling you how horrible socialism is, is in fact socialism. Libraries are taxpayer funded. You pay a few bucks to get a library card and you can read books for free for the rest of your life.

4. Police - Ever had a situation where you had to call the police? Then you have used a taxpayer funded socialist program. Anyone can call the police whether they pay taxes or not. They are there to protect and serve the community, not individuals. This is complete socialism on a state level, but still socialism all the same. Would you rather have to swipe your credit card before the police will help you?

5. Fire Dept. - Hopefully you have never had a fire in your home. But if you have, you probably called your local taxpayer-funded fire department to put the fire out. Like police, this is state socialism. You tax dollars are used to rescue your entire community in case of a fire. It use to be set up where you would pay a fee every month to the fire dept. for their service. If you didn't pay, they let your house burn down. Sadly, a man from Tennessee had this exact situation happen to him in 2011 because he didn't pay his $75.00 fee. I guess that small town in Tennessee would rather let people's houses burn down that resort to evil socialism. So don't take for granted the fact that you have a 24/7 fire dept. to put out your burning home thanks to socialism.


MORE: 75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

What the hell is wrong with a little socialism? We live with it. It's all around us. It has made our lives better. It's called Democratic Socialism.


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If socialism is all around us and working so well, then why do people like Sanders and OAC feel the need to radically change the US? ... why? because their version of socialism will much more intrusive and oppressive. They hide behind words like Democratic Socialism.

After his speech, Sanders told CNN’s Anderson Cooper, that real change is generated by mass movements. He cited the civil rights movement, the women’s movement, the gay movement and the labor movement.

“It is time for the American people to stand up and fight for their right to freedom, human dignity and security,” Sanders affirmed. “This is the core of what my politics is all about.” He clarified, “the only way we achieve these goals is through a political revolution.”

So here you see Sanders thinks we need a political revolution. A revolution to what exactly? You see people resist the shift towards socialism because a socialist form of government, puts more power into the hands of politicians.It's the tendency of every government to control their populations because it make it so much easier for the ruling class. Dont think Progressives will stop with a benign form of socialism. The key is in the word progressive. Things will always be screwed up in any large society and given their way, the progressive socialists will incrementally tighten the screws of control on their population.... oh all in the name of the betterment of society, in the way they see it.

I don't think people are worried about Democratic socialism, rather they are more concerned about the true intentions of these powerful people in Washington.

Because the question is not “ Are we a socialist nation” or “ how bad is socialism” but rather “How much socialism do we require to mitigate the harms of capitalism”

 

[Norman]

I hate the fact these socialists are around, should relocate to Venezuela.

Libertarians should relocate to Somalia.

Libertarians promote freedom, very American.

What American values do you promote?

The only difference between libertarians and liberals is small government VS massive government.

Still sounds like a massive difference.

 

[danielpalos]

Government is what governs the social order of any society.

Fuck you troll. Find a definition that backs up your idiotic statement.

You are the troll, troll. You need a valid refutation not simple rejection Because You feel like it. You need a superior argument for that.

He asked you for a definition that supports you argument and you failed to supply it. So at this point you have no argument just your opinion backed by no facts. Posting for your sake of posting is not a valid argument. Either post the definition or you are just simply trolling and need to be reported as such.

it is a self-evident Truth, want to argue about it?

So you can't defend not giving the definition and posting it. Didn't think you could.

Government is social-ism in action.

 

[Mike473]

Fuck you troll. Find a definition that backs up your idiotic statement.

You are the troll, troll. You need a valid refutation not simple rejection Because You feel like it. You need a superior argument for that.

He asked you for a definition that supports you argument and you failed to supply it. So at this point you have no argument just your opinion backed by no facts. Posting for your sake of posting is not a valid argument. Either post the definition or you are just simply trolling and need to be reported as such.

it is a self-evident Truth, want to argue about it?

So you can't defend not giving the definition and posting it. Didn't think you could.

Government is social-ism in action.

Socialism defined.

Example #1 All 4 of Al Gore's kids go to Harvard while his supporters go to a crappy community college somewhere.

Example #2 Obama family purchases 15 million, 8000 square foot water front property at Martha's Vineyard. But, his supporters must conserve and live with the AC set at 82 degrees and eat with a paper fork to support conservation.

Many more examples.

That is how socialism works. You make the sacrifices because you are not royalty and only a few can enjoy that privilege.

 

[Vandalshandle]

You are the troll, troll. You need a valid refutation not simple rejection Because You feel like it. You need a superior argument for that.

He asked you for a definition that supports you argument and you failed to supply it. So at this point you have no argument just your opinion backed by no facts. Posting for your sake of posting is not a valid argument. Either post the definition or you are just simply trolling and need to be reported as such.

it is a self-evident Truth, want to argue about it?

So you can't defend not giving the definition and posting it. Didn't think you could.

Government is social-ism in action.

Socialism defined.

Example #1 All 4 of Al Gore's kids go to Harvard while his supporters go to a crappy community college somewhere.

Example #2 Obama family purchases 15 million, 8000 square foot water front property at Martha's Vineyard. But, his supporters must conserve and live with the AC set at 82 degrees and eat with a paper fork to support conservation.

Many more examples.

That is how socialism works. You make the sacrifices because you are not royalty and only a few can enjoy that privilege.

Well, I think that I have now witnessed the ultimate irony. A Trump supporter criticizing Obama for his lavish lifestyle.

 

[danielpalos]

You are the troll, troll. You need a valid refutation not simple rejection Because You feel like it. You need a superior argument for that.

He asked you for a definition that supports you argument and you failed to supply it. So at this point you have no argument just your opinion backed by no facts. Posting for your sake of posting is not a valid argument. Either post the definition or you are just simply trolling and need to be reported as such.

it is a self-evident Truth, want to argue about it?

So you can't defend not giving the definition and posting it. Didn't think you could.

Government is social-ism in action.

Socialism defined.

Example #1 All 4 of Al Gore's kids go to Harvard while his supporters go to a crappy community college somewhere.

Example #2 Obama family purchases 15 million, 8000 square foot water front property at Martha's Vineyard. But, his supporters must conserve and live with the AC set at 82 degrees and eat with a paper fork to support conservation.

Many more examples.

That is how socialism works. You make the sacrifices because you are not royalty and only a few can enjoy that privilege.

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

 

[bripat9643]

Socialism is taxpayer funds being used collectively to benefit society as a whole, despite income, contribution, or ability.

Sounds horrible, huh?

Well I hate to be the one to tell you, but Socialism, which you have been told to fear all your life, is responsible for all this...

1. The Military/Defense - The United States military is the largest and most funded socialist program in the world. It operates thanks to our taxpayer dollars and protects the country as a whole. From the richest citizens to the homeless who sleep under the bridge. We are all protected by our military whether we pay taxes or not. This is complete socialism.

2. Highways/Roads - Those roads and highways you drive on every single day are completely taxpayer funded. Your tax dollars are used to maintain, expand, and preserve our highways and roads for every one's use. President Eisenhower was inspired by Germany's autobahn and implemented the idea right here in America. That's right, a republican president created our taxpayer funded, national highway system. This was a different time, before the republican party came down with a vicious case of rabies that never went away.

3. Public Libraries - Yes. That place where you go to check out books from conservative authors telling you how horrible socialism is, is in fact socialism. Libraries are taxpayer funded. You pay a few bucks to get a library card and you can read books for free for the rest of your life.

4. Police - Ever had a situation where you had to call the police? Then you have used a taxpayer funded socialist program. Anyone can call the police whether they pay taxes or not. They are there to protect and serve the community, not individuals. This is complete socialism on a state level, but still socialism all the same. Would you rather have to swipe your credit card before the police will help you?

5. Fire Dept. - Hopefully you have never had a fire in your home. But if you have, you probably called your local taxpayer-funded fire department to put the fire out. Like police, this is state socialism. You tax dollars are used to rescue your entire community in case of a fire. It use to be set up where you would pay a fee every month to the fire dept. for their service. If you didn't pay, they let your house burn down. Sadly, a man from Tennessee had this exact situation happen to him in 2011 because he didn't pay his $75.00 fee. I guess that small town in Tennessee would rather let people's houses burn down that resort to evil socialism. So don't take for granted the fact that you have a 24/7 fire dept. to put out your burning home thanks to socialism.


MORE: 75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

What the hell is wrong with a little socialism? We live with it. It's all around us. It has made our lives better. It's called Democratic Socialism.


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Because Capitalism pays for Socialism.

How do Norway and Sweden pay for their socialist programs?

With capitalism, moron.

 

[bripat9643]

How do Norway and Sweden pay for their socialist programs?

Capitalism. Further, how do the expenditures of Sweden and Norway compare to US?

Citizens are treated more fairly.

Norway Is Far More Socialist Than Venezuela

Venezuela and Norway both have abnormally large oil sectors, nationalized oil reserves, and nationalized oil companies.

In Norway, the surplus from the oil boom has been used to build a $1 trillion collectively-owned capital fund with the return on that capital going to finance general government spending, including the country’s large welfare state. This capital fund is even colorfully described by the Norwegian government as “the people’s money, owned by everyone, divided equally and for generations to come.”

In Venezuela, the government appears to have used the surplus primarily to finance current social spending. This means that, on the thing most remarkable about the two countries, Norway comes away as more socialist. Norway uses its oil sector to build an enormous stock of collectively-owned capital, which then goes to fund social spending while Venezuela skips the middle step. Insofar as socialism is about collective ownership of the means of production, an objective observer would have to declare Norway the more socialist of the two.

Norway’s edge on Venezuela goes beyond the different ways the two countries have handled their nationalized oil sectors. Although Venezuelan data is a bit hard to come by, it is hard to imagine based on what information we do have that the Venezuelan government owns one-third of the country’s domestic corporate equity like Norway does. And the Venezuelan government for sure does not own 60 percent of the national wealth like Norway does. Even on indicators that are not strictly socialist but that people often conflate with socialism — such as government taxes, revenue and expenditure — Norway dominates.

Norway Is Far More Socialist Than Venezuela

A common response from the left is that socialism (or democratic socialism) works just fine in Sweden, Norway, and Denmark. It is certainly true that Sweden, Norway, Finland, and Denmark are notable economic successes. What is false is that these countries are particularly socialist.

Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

Another example of socialism bailing out capitalism. Capitalists love to privatize profits and socialize losses.

Socialism produced the $14.5 billion?

 

[Papageorgio]

Fuck you troll. Find a definition that backs up your idiotic statement.

You are the troll, troll. You need a valid refutation not simple rejection Because You feel like it. You need a superior argument for that.

He asked you for a definition that supports you argument and you failed to supply it. So at this point you have no argument just your opinion backed by no facts. Posting for your sake of posting is not a valid argument. Either post the definition or you are just simply trolling and need to be reported as such.

it is a self-evident Truth, want to argue about it?

So you can't defend not giving the definition and posting it. Didn't think you could.

Government is social-ism in action.

Go ahead and show us the definition, we are still waiting.

He asked you for a definition that supports you argument and you failed to supply it. So at this point you have no argument just your opinion backed by no facts. Posting for your sake of posting is not a valid argument. Either post the definition or you are just simply trolling and need to be reported as such.

it is a self-evident Truth, want to argue about it?

So you can't defend not giving the definition and posting it. Didn't think you could.

Government is social-ism in action.

Socialism defined.

Example #1 All 4 of Al Gore's kids go to Harvard while his supporters go to a crappy community college somewhere.

Example #2 Obama family purchases 15 million, 8000 square foot water front property at Martha's Vineyard. But, his supporters must conserve and live with the AC set at 82 degrees and eat with a paper fork to support conservation.

Many more examples.

That is how socialism works. You make the sacrifices because you are not royalty and only a few can enjoy that privilege.

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

You can repeatedly post a link, your parents must be real proud of you.

 

[Lakhota]

Capitalists love to privatize profits and socialize losses. Without socialism - who would pay for their corporate welfare? Without socialism - many corporations would no longer exist.

 

[MarcATL]

Unfettered/unregulated capitalism is as destructive as unfettered/unregulated socialism.

Unfettered capitalism is actually worse. WAY worse!

 

[bripat9643]

Capitalists love to privatize profits and socialize losses. Without socialism - who would pay for their corporate welfare? Without socialism - many corporations would no longer exist.

Capitalism is an abstract concept. It has no wishes or desires.

 

[Staidhup]

Well let’s see, before your pathetic ass was born a man by the name of Goldwater was predicting the outcome if adopted and fighting socialism, then there was this guy Buckley, Friedman....saying the same thing, but wait you weren’t even born then, and surely they didn’t teach you in school.

 

[MarcATL]

Socialism is taxpayer funds being used collectively to benefit society as a whole, despite income, contribution, or ability.

Sounds horrible, huh?

Well I hate to be the one to tell you, but Socialism, which you have been told to fear all your life, is responsible for all this...

1. The Military/Defense - The United States military is the largest and most funded socialist program in the world. It operates thanks to our taxpayer dollars and protects the country as a whole. From the richest citizens to the homeless who sleep under the bridge. We are all protected by our military whether we pay taxes or not. This is complete socialism.

2. Highways/Roads - Those roads and highways you drive on every single day are completely taxpayer funded. Your tax dollars are used to maintain, expand, and preserve our highways and roads for every one's use. President Eisenhower was inspired by Germany's autobahn and implemented the idea right here in America. That's right, a republican president created our taxpayer funded, national highway system. This was a different time, before the republican party came down with a vicious case of rabies that never went away.

3. Public Libraries - Yes. That place where you go to check out books from conservative authors telling you how horrible socialism is, is in fact socialism. Libraries are taxpayer funded. You pay a few bucks to get a library card and you can read books for free for the rest of your life.

4. Police - Ever had a situation where you had to call the police? Then you have used a taxpayer funded socialist program. Anyone can call the police whether they pay taxes or not. They are there to protect and serve the community, not individuals. This is complete socialism on a state level, but still socialism all the same. Would you rather have to swipe your credit card before the police will help you?

5. Fire Dept. - Hopefully you have never had a fire in your home. But if you have, you probably called your local taxpayer-funded fire department to put the fire out. Like police, this is state socialism. You tax dollars are used to rescue your entire community in case of a fire. It use to be set up where you would pay a fee every month to the fire dept. for their service. If you didn't pay, they let your house burn down. Sadly, a man from Tennessee had this exact situation happen to him in 2011 because he didn't pay his $75.00 fee. I guess that small town in Tennessee would rather let people's houses burn down that resort to evil socialism. So don't take for granted the fact that you have a 24/7 fire dept. to put out your burning home thanks to socialism.


MORE: 75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

What the hell is wrong with a little socialism? We live with it. It's all around us. It has made our lives better. It's called Democratic Socialism.


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Because they are nothing, if not hypocrites of the first order.

 

[dblack]

I hate the fact these socialists are around, should relocate to Venezuela.

Libertarians should relocate to Somalia.

Libertarians promote freedom, very American.

What American values do you promote?

The only difference between libertarians and liberals is small government VS massive government.

That's not the only difference. Libertarians disagree with liberals not only on the size of government, but also on the scope. Government is a justifiable solution for some problems, but not all. Not most.

 

[dblack]

Capitalists love to privatize profits and socialize losses. Without socialism - who would pay for their corporate welfare? Without socialism - many corporations would no longer exist.

Exactly. Those corporations should no longer exist. Socialism bailed them out at the tax payers’ expense. Fuck you very much

 

[Mike473]

He asked you for a definition that supports you argument and you failed to supply it. So at this point you have no argument just your opinion backed by no facts. Posting for your sake of posting is not a valid argument. Either post the definition or you are just simply trolling and need to be reported as such.

it is a self-evident Truth, want to argue about it?

So you can't defend not giving the definition and posting it. Didn't think you could.

Government is social-ism in action.

Socialism defined.

Example #1 All 4 of Al Gore's kids go to Harvard while his supporters go to a crappy community college somewhere.

Example #2 Obama family purchases 15 million, 8000 square foot water front property at Martha's Vineyard. But, his supporters must conserve and live with the AC set at 82 degrees and eat with a paper fork to support conservation.

Many more examples.

That is how socialism works. You make the sacrifices because you are not royalty and only a few can enjoy that privilege.

Well, I think that I have now witnessed the ultimate irony. A Trump supporter criticizing Obama for his lavish lifestyle.

I am not the one claiming the oceans are about to overtake the coastal cities or telling people to set the thermostat at 82 and ride a bike to work. If you are a Dem, you should be asking them these questions. I already call bullshit on it.

 

[Vandalshandle]

it is a self-evident Truth, want to argue about it?

So you can't defend not giving the definition and posting it. Didn't think you could.

Government is social-ism in action.

Socialism defined.

Example #1 All 4 of Al Gore's kids go to Harvard while his supporters go to a crappy community college somewhere.

Example #2 Obama family purchases 15 million, 8000 square foot water front property at Martha's Vineyard. But, his supporters must conserve and live with the AC set at 82 degrees and eat with a paper fork to support conservation.

Many more examples.

That is how socialism works. You make the sacrifices because you are not royalty and only a few can enjoy that privilege.

Well, I think that I have now witnessed the ultimate irony. A Trump supporter criticizing Obama for his lavish lifestyle.

I am not the one claiming the oceans are about to overtake the coastal cities or telling people to set the thermostat at 82 and ride a bike to work. If you are a Dem, you should be asking them these questions. I already call bullshit on it.

Maybe you should ask Trump why he built dykes on the seaward side of his Scotland golf course last year.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Capitalists love to privatize profits and socialize losses. Without socialism - who would pay for their corporate welfare? Without socialism - many corporations would no longer exist.

Exactly. Those corporations should no longer exist. Socialism bailed them out at the tax payers’ expense. Fuck you very much

its called crony capitalism

2007 should of let it burn ...we'd be in a much better place today