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CDC studies dog bites. Dogs don't commit violence - asshole owners who don't control their dogs do.
People are killed by drunk drivers. Cars don't commit violence. But we collect data on drunk driving in order to form better policies.
I'll let this part stand for posterity.
Dogs are violent, whether through intent or instinct. They are dogs after all.
Dogs are not violent. They are dogs, as you say.
People control them.
Drunk drivers are people. See? People killing people.
Drunk drivers are using a tool: cars. A tool, like guns, to kill people.
WHY IS GUN VIOLENCE SO SACRED IT CAN'T BE TREATED LIKE ANY OTHER CAUSE OF DEATH?
Who said anything about it being "sacred"?
Don't let your emotions overcome you.
Can't give a straight answer can you?
Why should the CDC be barred from studying mortality from gun violence?
Uhhh, because the FBI does?
Expanded Homicide Data Table 8
WHY IS GUN VIOLENCE SO SACRED IT CAN'T BE TREATED LIKE ANY OTHER CAUSE OF DEATH?
Who said anything about it being "sacred"?
Don't let your emotions overcome you.
Can't give a straight answer can you?
Why should the CDC be barred from studying mortality from gun violence?
Uhhh, because the FBI does?
Expanded Homicide Data Table 8
Thank you for not answering the question.
Why should the CDC be barred from studying mortality from gun violence?
CDC studies dog bites. Dogs don't commit violence - asshole owners who don't control their dogs do.
People are killed by drunk drivers. Cars don't commit violence. But we collect data on drunk driving in order to form better policies.
I'll let this part stand for posterity.
Dogs are violent, whether through intent or instinct. They are dogs after all.
Dogs are not violent. They are dogs, as you say.
People control them.
Drunk drivers are people. See? People killing people.
Drunk drivers are using a tool: cars. A tool, like guns, to kill people.
Wild dogs are violent too, yet without the influence of a human being. So there goes that.
Cars don't drive themselves, Coyote. People die because of the negligence of the person, not the car. This isn't Knight Rider.
And to recite what GYsgt said, the study can be biased
I might add that any study done on gun violence can be influenced by politics. You'll never get a straight out fact based analysis.
Wild dogs aren't responsible for many - if any - dog bites or dog bite fatalities.
Wild dogs aren't responsible for many - if any - dog bites or dog bite fatalities.
But their capacity for violence remains the same, whether it be influence from humans or not.
Conservatives don't believe the CDC should even exist.
If you believe anything that a lefty says without actual facts then I would suspect you are to stupid to be involved in any discussion.Conservatives don't believe the CDC should even exist.
I had no idea the CDC was one of the bogeyment...go figure
And to recite what GYsgt said, the study can be biased
I might add that any study done on gun violence can be influenced by politics. You'll never get a straight out fact based analysis.
EVERY study can be biased.
But Congress doesn't ban that research...unless it's the CDC trying to study gun violence.
What are they afraid of? Is the CDC barred from scientifically examining any other causes of death? Why this?
Quietly, Congress extends a ban on CDC research on gun violenc
In the immediate aftermath of the massacre in Charleston, South Carolina, the US House of Representatives Appropriations Committee quietly rejected an amendment that would have allowed the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to study the underlying causes of gun violence.
Dr. Fred Rivara, a professor of Pediatrics and Epidemiology at the University of Washington at Seattle Children's Hospital, has been involved with injury research for 30 years. He was part of a team that researched gun violence back in the 1990s and personally saw the chilling effects of the NRA’s lobbying arm. Rivara says that the NRA accused the CDC of trying to use science to promote gun control.
“As a result of that, many, many people stopped doing gun research, [and] the number of publications on firearm violence decreased dramatically," he told The Takeaway in April. "It was really chilling in terms of our ability to conduct research on this very important problem.”
In 2013, some 34,000 Americans died from gunshot wounds. So Takeaway Washington Correspondent Todd Zwillich decided to ask House Speaker John Boehner why his party is trying to block research on gun violence.
“The CDC is there to look at diseases that need to be dealt with to protect public health,” Boehner said at a press conference last week. “I’m sorry, but a gun is not a disease. Guns don’t kill people — people do. And when people use weapons in a horrible way, we should condemn the actions of the individual and not blame the action on some weapon.”
But does the CDC research blame the public health issue of gun violence on the weapons themselves?
“The original concern from the National Rifle Association back in 1996, which Dr. Rivara mentioned, made that very implication,” says Zwillich. “The NRA complained to Congress that the CDC was using the results of its research to essentially advocate for gun control. They called it propaganda. And back at that time, Congress slashed the CDC’s funding by the exact amount that was used for gun-related public health research.”
Rivara and his team discovered that having a gun in the home is associated with a threefold increase in the risk of a homicide — they released this information in a series of peer-reviewed articles that appeared in the New England Journal of Medicine. The CDC both funded Rivara’s original research and stood by the findings.
But after Congress seemingly retaliated against the CDC for publishing Rivara’s findings, Zwillich says researchers with the agency have shied away from conducting gun research.
Because gun violence isn't a disease.
Neither are dog bites.
Why does Congress want to prevent research into gun violence mortality?
WHY?
Because guns don't commit the violence, people do.
What are they afraid of? Is the CDC barred from scientifically examining any other causes of death? Why this?
Quietly, Congress extends a ban on CDC research on gun violenc
In the immediate aftermath of the massacre in Charleston, South Carolina, the US House of Representatives Appropriations Committee quietly rejected an amendment that would have allowed the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to study the underlying causes of gun violence.
Dr. Fred Rivara, a professor of Pediatrics and Epidemiology at the University of Washington at Seattle Children's Hospital, has been involved with injury research for 30 years. He was part of a team that researched gun violence back in the 1990s and personally saw the chilling effects of the NRA’s lobbying arm. Rivara says that the NRA accused the CDC of trying to use science to promote gun control.
“As a result of that, many, many people stopped doing gun research, [and] the number of publications on firearm violence decreased dramatically," he told The Takeaway in April. "It was really chilling in terms of our ability to conduct research on this very important problem.”
In 2013, some 34,000 Americans died from gunshot wounds. So Takeaway Washington Correspondent Todd Zwillich decided to ask House Speaker John Boehner why his party is trying to block research on gun violence.
“The CDC is there to look at diseases that need to be dealt with to protect public health,” Boehner said at a press conference last week. “I’m sorry, but a gun is not a disease. Guns don’t kill people — people do. And when people use weapons in a horrible way, we should condemn the actions of the individual and not blame the action on some weapon.”
But does the CDC research blame the public health issue of gun violence on the weapons themselves?
“The original concern from the National Rifle Association back in 1996, which Dr. Rivara mentioned, made that very implication,” says Zwillich. “The NRA complained to Congress that the CDC was using the results of its research to essentially advocate for gun control. They called it propaganda. And back at that time, Congress slashed the CDC’s funding by the exact amount that was used for gun-related public health research.”
Rivara and his team discovered that having a gun in the home is associated with a threefold increase in the risk of a homicide — they released this information in a series of peer-reviewed articles that appeared in the New England Journal of Medicine. The CDC both funded Rivara’s original research and stood by the findings.
But after Congress seemingly retaliated against the CDC for publishing Rivara’s findings, Zwillich says researchers with the agency have shied away from conducting gun research.
Because gun violence isn't a disease.
Conservatives don't believe the CDC should even exist.
I had no idea the CDC was one of the bogeyment...go figure
And to recite what GYsgt said, the study can be biased
I might add that any study done on gun violence can be influenced by politics. You'll never get a straight out fact based analysis.
EVERY study can be biased.
But Congress doesn't ban that research...unless it's the CDC trying to study gun violence.
To keep you in the loop:
Why the CDC still isn’t researching gun violence, despite the ban being lifted two years ago
And to recite what GYsgt said, the study can be biased
I might add that any study done on gun violence can be influenced by politics. You'll never get a straight out fact based analysis.
EVERY study can be biased.
But Congress doesn't ban that research...unless it's the CDC trying to study gun violence.
To keep you in the loop:
Why the CDC still isn’t researching gun violence, despite the ban being lifted two years ago
From July, 2015: Quietly, Congress extends a ban on CDC research on gun violence
In the immediate aftermath of the massacre in Charleston, South Carolina, the US House of Representatives Appropriations Committee quietly rejected an amendment that would have allowed the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to study the underlying causes of gun violence.
So, given the link posted above, Coyote, that destroys your entire case. They have the ability but not the funding, and Obama hasn't been helping. He proposed cutting funding himself. If you want links I can give you more.
