Why does Obama want to fundamentally change America?

[Doubletap]

There are plenty of socialist cesspools for him to live happily in without changing anything. Venezuela, Spain, Cuba, Russia, England, to name a few.

 

[Clementine]

You have to understand that the far left is unable to live and let live. They must control everything and they cannot rest until the entire world is being run the way they think it should be run. They are unable to see that other people have the same needs and desires as they do, such as having the desire for freedom and liberty. Leftist leaders want those things for themselves, but believe that the rest of the people should be controlled. Socialist and communist leaders redistribute wealth from other people, but never their own. They make laws oppressing people when it comes to free speech, free markets and personal decisions. They never obey their own laws. The population lives under socialism or communism, but the leaders engage in capitalism and prefer to live in mansions and have the best of everything. They don't believe the rest of us want or deserve that.

There are evil dictators throughout the world that cannot stand the fact that a free country exists where the people are supposed to be in charge, not the government.

For them, it's not about living in a place where you like the laws. The people who seek to tear down this country need to be in charge of everyone, not live like everyone. They don't want to move to those other countries because they already have ruthless leaders and they would just be another little peon obeying an evil regime. They want to be the regime, not live under one.

 

[JakeStarkey]

"They must control everything " is the goal of the TeaPs and far right reactionaries.

 

[Vox]

There are plenty of socialist cesspools for him to live happily in without changing anything. Venezuela, Spain, Cuba, Russia, England, to name a few.

because it is not the goal of the left - to live and enjoy.

enjoyment for the left comes from forcing YOU NOT TO enjoy your life.

 

[Plasmaball]

You have to understand that the far left is unable to live and let live. They must control everything and they cannot rest until the entire world is being run the way they think it should be run. They are unable to see that other people have the same needs and desires as they do, such as having the desire for freedom and liberty. Leftist leaders want those things for themselves, but believe that the rest of the people should be controlled. Socialist and communist leaders redistribute wealth from other people, but never their own. They make laws oppressing people when it comes to free speech, free markets and personal decisions. They never obey their own laws. The population lives under socialism or communism, but the leaders engage in capitalism and prefer to live in mansions and have the best of everything. They don't believe the rest of us want or deserve that.

There are evil dictators throughout the world that cannot stand the fact that a free country exists where the people are supposed to be in charge, not the government.

For them, it's not about living in a place where you like the laws. The people who seek to tear down this country need to be in charge of everyone, not live like everyone. They don't want to move to those other countries because they already have ruthless leaders and they would just be another little peon obeying an evil regime. They want to be the regime, not live under one.

you ever get tired of saying this word vomit over and over again?

 

[Mr. H.]

"They must control everything " is the goal of the TeaPs and far right reactionaries.

I'm not a TP nor a far right reactionary but I believe both of those factions' purpose is to bring this country back into balance and prevent it from becoming a totally non-productive Liberal utopia of teat-sucking lethargic do-nothings.

 

[WelfareQueen]

He hates himself (only the white half). Oh, and also, he's an idiot.

 

[Pickle]

He perceives that some are born disadvantaged and wants to use government to bring a condition where all are equal.

 

[auditor0007]

There are plenty of socialist cesspools for him to live happily in without changing anything. Venezuela, Spain, Cuba, Russia, England, to name a few.

I have no idea why anyone would think that everyone should have health insurance. It really is beyond me.

 

[auditor0007]

He perceives that some are born disadvantaged and wants to use government to bring a condition where all are equal.

You dolts always make the same mistake. It is true that many liberals believe that a lot of people are born disadvantaged. Actually, it's a fact. Where you get it all wrong is in thinking that the idea is to make everyone equal. The idea is to give everyone an equal opportunity to make the most of themselves, but of course you already knew that.

 

[rdean]

Why are Republicans hellbent on tearing down this country? Their racism and ignorance has kept the south poor and ragged for a hundred and fifty years. Isn't it time for a change? We need to keep them from finishing the job they started under Bush.

 

[Londoner]

More Americans voted for Obama in last two elections, but a vocal minority with disproportionate media influence is trying to overturn the results of the election by lying about his policies. The people lined up against him have contempt for democracy and the will of the people. Obama has faced more filibusters than any president by a factor of 10. When Bush passed Medicare Part D - the single greatest expansion of our entitlement system since LBJ - we didn't hear a peep from the Right. Why are so many rightwing voters cheerleaders for their own political leaders, who are often worse than the Left when it comes to waste and corruption? Why did FOX News never cover the Pork that the GOP stuffed into their legislation under Bush? The unwillingness to criticize your own party implies that you are driven by mindless partisanship rather than principals.

Consider what has happened to the country since Reagan. Corporations wanted ultra-cheap labor, so Reagan (and then Clinton) liberalized trade. This allowed corporations to shift the bulk of the world's manufacturing to places like Communist China or Taiwan where workers make $5/day. Where do you think Walmart - the GOP's greatest retail contributor - gets over 50% of its products made? Don't take my word for it. Go in one of their stores and read the labels on the clothes. Put simply, Walmart makes more money when its products are made in freedom hating nations by workers who live beneath brutal dictators. Nike and Apple make more money when their products are made in freedom hating nations by workers who live beneath dictators. The American worker has been displaced not by Washington, but by the owners of Washington: large corporations, the ones which fund our elections, staff government and get bailouts when their riskiest investments fail. Rather than praising the American private sector as the persecuted pinnacle of glorious freedom, you should look at their partnership with places like Communist China. The story of post-Reagan capitalism is the story of the substitute of livable wages with credit cards (a substitute that became necessary as production was shifted to Asia and the global south).

The special interests which moved American jobs to freedom hating nations also pay rightwing talk radio to distract you with the socialist boogeyman. This country has been through 30 years of tax cuts and deregulation ... and 30 years of lowering labor costs . . . all so that we could provide better incentives to the job producers. We were told that if we did this, than we would see a glorious trickle down of jobs, competitive pricing and innovation. But we've seen the opposite. The jobs trickled over seas as one domestic sector after another was transformed into a monopoly. Whether it be cable television/internet providers or health insurance, John Galt has used Washington to divide the country into fixed no-compete zones. This allows him to raise rates and decrease services without fear of losing customers. For people who hate Marx, you are making his criticisms of capitalism look prophetic. He predicted that we would eventually be stuck with a rentier class in every sector. Who knew that John Galt was just a monopolist who would buy the competition and screw the consumer. It's a joke. This country got rolled by a rogue political movement.

 

[Votto]

There are plenty of socialist cesspools for him to live happily in without changing anything. Venezuela, Spain, Cuba, Russia, England, to name a few.

For those on the left, we are nothing but a petri dish.

 

[Pickle]

He perceives that some are born disadvantaged and wants to use government to bring a condition where all are equal.

You dolts always make the same mistake. It is true that many liberals believe that a lot of people are born disadvantaged. Actually, it's a fact. Where you get it all wrong is in thinking that the idea is to make everyone equal. The idea is to give everyone an equal opportunity to make the most of themselves, but of course you already knew that.

And the problem is your noble efforts result in a dependence upon other people of the very people you perceive as being disadvantaged.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Why are Republicans hellbent on tearing down this country? Their racism and ignorance has kept the south poor and ragged for a hundred and fifty years. Isn't it time for a change? We need to keep them from finishing the job they started under Bush.

a racist calling others racist.....fascinating....

 

[Locke11_21]

Why are Republicans hellbent on tearing down this country? Their racism and ignorance has kept the south poor and ragged for a hundred and fifty years. Isn't it time for a change? We need to keep them from finishing the job they started under Bush.

a racist calling others racist.....fascinating....

I agree. rdean goes to great effort to call others racist in order to hide that he is indeed the real racist. Anyone who sees so many things as racism like him, and the hemorrhoid with two eyes, two ears a nose and a mouth (Chris Matthews) do, they are hiding they are the real racists.

In the beds of rdean, Matthews and others like them, once you pull away their covers, you will always find white sheets.

 

[B. Kidd]

There are plenty of socialist cesspools for him to live happily in without changing anything. Venezuela, Spain, Cuba, Russia, England, to name a few.

I have no idea why anyone would think that everyone should have health insurance. It really is beyond me.

Rest assured, they'll have health insurance, tho' in name only, as opposed to reality. Liberals normally and nominally, perinally, confuse their fantasy social engineering with reality.
Tsk-Tsk......

 

[Clementine]

He perceives that some are born disadvantaged and wants to use government to bring a condition where all are equal.

You dolts always make the same mistake. It is true that many liberals believe that a lot of people are born disadvantaged. Actually, it's a fact. Where you get it all wrong is in thinking that the idea is to make everyone equal. The idea is to give everyone an equal opportunity to make the most of themselves, but of course you already knew that.

I disagree. We all do have equal opportunity. Some just don't take advantage of the freedom to go for it and that is their choice that they must live with. Obama and the liberals don't talk about equal opportunity, they talk about social justice and strive for equal outcomes. That is a totally different thing. Equal outcomes are impossible and government is completely useless when it comes to helping people achieve. Since it is impossible to elevate people artificially (and the trillions spent on welfare prove that), the left seeks to lower the rest of us to bring about their twisted version of equality.

 

[B. Kidd]

A-0007's been talkin' shit on this board for the last 5 years, an' will be talkin' his liberal lies on here for the next 5 years; long, even after the LIAR Obama is gone from office.
An' thatz fer' sure!

 

[auditor0007]

He perceives that some are born disadvantaged and wants to use government to bring a condition where all are equal.

You dolts always make the same mistake. It is true that many liberals believe that a lot of people are born disadvantaged. Actually, it's a fact. Where you get it all wrong is in thinking that the idea is to make everyone equal. The idea is to give everyone an equal opportunity to make the most of themselves, but of course you already knew that.

I disagree. We all do have equal opportunity. Some just don't take advantage of the freedom to go for it and that is their choice that they must live with. Obama and the liberals don't talk about equal opportunity, they talk about social justice and strive for equal outcomes. That is a totally different thing. Equal outcomes are impossible and government is completely useless when it comes to helping people achieve. Since it is impossible to elevate people artificially (and the trillions spent on welfare prove that), the left seeks to lower the rest of us to bring about their twisted version of equality.

Seriously, you believe that some kid growing up in the ghetto has the same opportunity most of us had growing up middle class? It's not to say that a kid growing up in the ghetto cannot overcome all of his/her disadvantages, but the disadvantages are more than obvious. That kid is going to have a much tougher time becoming successful than your average middle class kid or a kid coming from wealth.