Why does the left believe a corporate tax break "steals" money from the taxpayers?

[Cellblock2429]

/----/ Hey Chump, you're asking for stats that may not exist except on local industry levels. Do your own damn research.

I didn't make the claim. Seems there is nothing to back that claim then. Thanks, that was my point.

/----/ Here ya go Spanky: Hispanics and Latinos in industries and occupations : The Economics Daily : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

They appear to be a minority in construction. Your point?

/---/ the illegals are taking jobs away from Americans. You asked for stats and even when provided you're still stuck on stupid.

The claim was they had taken over. That is false based on your stats. It appears they just do what others don't want to do, like fall off roofs.

/----/ Tell that to those who lost their jobs to illegals

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

/---/ Call a few for estimates and ask how the illegals hurt them.

So no stats?

I just tried to ask a few roofing crews working in my area.
They were all illegals.

Didn't think you had anything. Try again when you have something real.

When's the last time you saw an American roofing crew?

I don't know any Americans dreaming of being a roofer. Do you have any real stats or not?

Why would they dream of being a roofer when the illegal aliens took all the roofing jobs?

 

[JoeB131]

"WHAT IS THE FAIR SHARE THAT THE RICH MUST PAY TO MAKE IT FAIR?
I hate you mother fuckers who bitch and moan about how sorry you worthless ass is, but cant tell an amount that will make you happy. You mentally challenged individuals need to be put away, before you hurt yourself or someone with wealth.

Actually, the top marginal rate of 50% that existed in 1982 under that raging communist, Ronald Reagan, would have been just fine. Also a reasonable estate tax on the super rich so that too much wealth doesn't accumulate in too few hands.

 

[Brain357]

So no stats?

I just tried to ask a few roofing crews working in my area.
They were all illegals.

Didn't think you had anything. Try again when you have something real.

When's the last time you saw an American roofing crew?

I don't know any Americans dreaming of being a roofer. Do you have any real stats or not?

Why would they dream of being a roofer when the illegal aliens took all the roofing jobs?

It's a crappy, dangerous job...

 

[Kondor3]

Why does the left believe a corporate tax break "steals" money from the taxpayers?

Ummmmm... something to do with operating budgets and funding streams, and diminishment from one side, requiring the other to make up for it, I'm guessing.

The counterpointing question is: Why do Conservatives who do not stand to benefit from such tax cuts, go out of their way to play Mouthpiece for Corporatists?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I just tried to ask a few roofing crews working in my area.
They were all illegals.

Didn't think you had anything. Try again when you have something real.

When's the last time you saw an American roofing crew?

I don't know any Americans dreaming of being a roofer. Do you have any real stats or not?

Why would they dream of being a roofer when the illegal aliens took all the roofing jobs?

It's a crappy, dangerous job...

Even Hillary admits illegals are taking roofing jobs, during a rare sober moment.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I just tried to ask a few roofing crews working in my area.
They were all illegals.

Didn't think you had anything. Try again when you have something real.

When's the last time you saw an American roofing crew?

I don't know any Americans dreaming of being a roofer. Do you have any real stats or not?

Why would they dream of being a roofer when the illegal aliens took all the roofing jobs?

It's a crappy, dangerous job...

Pew: 72% of illegals have jobs, biggest in construction

That's weird, an article about illegal workers using a picture of an illegal on a roof.

 

[francoHFW]

Didn't think you had anything. Try again when you have something real.

When's the last time you saw an American roofing crew?

I don't know any Americans dreaming of being a roofer. Do you have any real stats or not?

Why would they dream of being a roofer when the illegal aliens took all the roofing jobs?

It's a crappy, dangerous job...

Even Hillary admits illegals are taking roofing jobs, during a rare sober moment.

And wants to END illegal immigration with the 2010 Immigration Bill with an unfakable SS ID card. Carry on with the wall bs and giving tax breaks to the rich, dupes...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I just tried to ask a few roofing crews working in my area.
They were all illegals.

Didn't think you had anything. Try again when you have something real.

When's the last time you saw an American roofing crew?

I don't know any Americans dreaming of being a roofer. Do you have any real stats or not?

Why would they dream of being a roofer when the illegal aliens took all the roofing jobs?

It's a crappy, dangerous job...

2. Occupations of unauthorized immigrant workers

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why does the left believe a corporate tax break "steals" money from the taxpayers?

Ummmmm... something to do with operating budgets and funding streams, and diminishment from one side, requiring the other to make up for it, I'm guessing.

The counterpointing question is: Why do Conservatives who do not stand to benefit from such tax cuts, go out of their way to play Mouthpiece for Corporatists?

I wonder if funding streams are harmed when high tax rates result in billions of dollars remaining overseas to avoid high US rates?

 

[Brain357]

Didn't think you had anything. Try again when you have something real.

When's the last time you saw an American roofing crew?

I don't know any Americans dreaming of being a roofer. Do you have any real stats or not?

Why would they dream of being a roofer when the illegal aliens took all the roofing jobs?

It's a crappy, dangerous job...

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Pew: 72% of illegals have jobs, biggest in construction

That's weird, an article about illegal workers using a picture of an illegal on a roof.

How do you know that is an illegal on the roof? Where are all these people that want roofing jobs?

 

[Brain357]

Didn't think you had anything. Try again when you have something real.

When's the last time you saw an American roofing crew?

I don't know any Americans dreaming of being a roofer. Do you have any real stats or not?

Why would they dream of being a roofer when the illegal aliens took all the roofing jobs?

It's a crappy, dangerous job...

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2. Occupations of unauthorized immigrant workers

America's most dangerous jobs

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

When's the last time you saw an American roofing crew?

I don't know any Americans dreaming of being a roofer. Do you have any real stats or not?

Why would they dream of being a roofer when the illegal aliens took all the roofing jobs?

It's a crappy, dangerous job...

View attachment 141741

2. Occupations of unauthorized immigrant workers

America's most dangerous jobs

Yes, roofing is a dangerous job that Americans with little schooling can do.
Until we started letting unlimited numbers of illegal aliens come here.

Don't you care about those Americans who can't/don't get a college degree?
They used to make pretty good money in the Chicago area from Spring-Fall.
Enough money to survive with no work over the winter. They can't do that, now
that they're undercut by illegals.

 

[Brain357]

I don't know any Americans dreaming of being a roofer. Do you have any real stats or not?

Why would they dream of being a roofer when the illegal aliens took all the roofing jobs?

It's a crappy, dangerous job...

View attachment 141741

2. Occupations of unauthorized immigrant workers

America's most dangerous jobs

Yes, roofing is a dangerous job that Americans with little schooling can do.
Until we started letting unlimited numbers of illegal aliens come here.

Don't you care about those Americans who can't/don't get a college degree?
They used to make pretty good money in the Chicago area from Spring-Fall.
Enough money to survive with no work over the winter. They can't do that, now
that they're undercut by illegals.

Shipping out all the illegals will make no difference. There are not people lining up to fall off roofs.

 

[Brain357]

I don't know any Americans dreaming of being a roofer. Do you have any real stats or not?

Why would they dream of being a roofer when the illegal aliens took all the roofing jobs?

It's a crappy, dangerous job...

View attachment 141741

2. Occupations of unauthorized immigrant workers

America's most dangerous jobs

Yes, roofing is a dangerous job that Americans with little schooling can do.
Until we started letting unlimited numbers of illegal aliens come here.

Don't you care about those Americans who can't/don't get a college degree?
They used to make pretty good money in the Chicago area from Spring-Fall.
Enough money to survive with no work over the winter. They can't do that, now
that they're undercut by illegals.

Were a President Trump to deport all illegal immigrants, the economy would suffer greatly. Just ask Arizona, where a crackdown on illegal immigrants in 2007 shrank the economy by 2%, according to a private analysis by Moody’s, a ratings agency, for the Wall Street Journal. The incomes of most workers would fall. Yet strangely enough, those best placed to benefit from a mass deportation would be those who had crossed the border legally.

https://www.economist.com/news/unit...nomic-losers-low-skilled-immigration-wage-war

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why would they dream of being a roofer when the illegal aliens took all the roofing jobs?

It's a crappy, dangerous job...

View attachment 141741

2. Occupations of unauthorized immigrant workers

America's most dangerous jobs

Yes, roofing is a dangerous job that Americans with little schooling can do.
Until we started letting unlimited numbers of illegal aliens come here.

Don't you care about those Americans who can't/don't get a college degree?
They used to make pretty good money in the Chicago area from Spring-Fall.
Enough money to survive with no work over the winter. They can't do that, now
that they're undercut by illegals.

Shipping out all the illegals will make no difference. There are not people lining up to fall off roofs.

Not lining up now, wages are depressed.
Once illegals are gone, wages will rise.

 

[Brain357]

It's a crappy, dangerous job...

View attachment 141741

2. Occupations of unauthorized immigrant workers

America's most dangerous jobs

Yes, roofing is a dangerous job that Americans with little schooling can do.
Until we started letting unlimited numbers of illegal aliens come here.

Don't you care about those Americans who can't/don't get a college degree?
They used to make pretty good money in the Chicago area from Spring-Fall.
Enough money to survive with no work over the winter. They can't do that, now
that they're undercut by illegals.

Shipping out all the illegals will make no difference. There are not people lining up to fall off roofs.

Not lining up now, wages are depressed.
Once illegals are gone, wages will rise.

Just like things would be great when Unions were gone. Just another scapegoat. Want to increase wages, look where the money is.

 

[AntonToo]

How many times have you heard "Corporate tax breaks are being subsidized by the tax-paying public" or "The tax payers are having to foot the bill for a private company"?

Those are ignorant statements. A tax break given to a corporation isn't existing money the government has already collected from taxpayers, it's some of the money those corporations have earned on their own. Money which they don't have to pay to the government. They earned it, and they own it.

That would be equivalent to saying that the general public has some right to a corporation's earnings which anyone can tell you, is socialism.

It boggles my mind why Dims keep saying that the rich in general need to be taxed more.

It's not like voters will be given more money if the government takes in more money. After all, they routinely run trillion dollar deficits. The government is going to spend what they want to spend when they want to spend it. None of it depends upon incoming tax revenue.

It boggles my mind that Repubs, who are usually the ones bitching about deficits have zero interest in actually reducing them as soon as a dirty word like tax is introduced.

/----/ it boggles my mind that Libs have zero interest in reducing the debt period. Any new tax revenue would just be squandered

Baseless bullshit - in the late 80 and early 90's taxes were increased, some spending was cut, economy was good and yes we even posted a budget with a surplus.

/----/ Speaking of baseless bullshit there has been no surplus since WWII

Pathetic tomato-tomahtoing.

2001 Federal Budget:

Total Receipts: $2.39T
Total Outlays: $2.23T

2001

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

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2. Occupations of unauthorized immigrant workers

America's most dangerous jobs

Yes, roofing is a dangerous job that Americans with little schooling can do.
Until we started letting unlimited numbers of illegal aliens come here.

Don't you care about those Americans who can't/don't get a college degree?
They used to make pretty good money in the Chicago area from Spring-Fall.
Enough money to survive with no work over the winter. They can't do that, now
that they're undercut by illegals.

Shipping out all the illegals will make no difference. There are not people lining up to fall off roofs.

Not lining up now, wages are depressed.
Once illegals are gone, wages will rise.

Just like things would be great when Unions were gone. Just another scapegoat. Want to increase wages, look where the money is.

Yeah, unions are evil.
We need to kill the government unions now. They really suck.

Want to increase wages, look where the money is.

Employers. Want to force employers to pay more? Deport their cheap, illegal alien labor.

 

[Brain357]

America's most dangerous jobs

Yes, roofing is a dangerous job that Americans with little schooling can do.
Until we started letting unlimited numbers of illegal aliens come here.

Don't you care about those Americans who can't/don't get a college degree?
They used to make pretty good money in the Chicago area from Spring-Fall.
Enough money to survive with no work over the winter. They can't do that, now
that they're undercut by illegals.

Shipping out all the illegals will make no difference. There are not people lining up to fall off roofs.

Not lining up now, wages are depressed.
Once illegals are gone, wages will rise.

Just like things would be great when Unions were gone. Just another scapegoat. Want to increase wages, look where the money is.

Yeah, unions are evil.
We need to kill the government unions now. They really suck.

Want to increase wages, look where the money is.

Employers. Want to force employers to pay more? Deport their cheap, illegal alien labor.

Evil? The middle class was strong when unions were strong. Repubs killed unions and with them the middle class. And now that scapegoat is dead you claim immigrants are the problem. Amazing.