Why Is Socialism Doing So Darn Well in Deep-Red North Dakota?

[jon_berzerk]

By Les Leopold

North Dakota's thriving state bank makes a mockery of Wall Street's casino banking system -- and that's why financial elites want to crush it.

North Dakota is the very definition of a red state. It voted 58 percent to 39 percent for Romney over Obama, and its statehouse and senate have a total of 104 Republicans and only 47 Democrats. The Republican super-majority is so conservative it recently passed the nation's most severe anti-abortion resolution – a measure that declares a fertilized human egg has the same right to life as a fully formed person.

But North Dakota is also red in another sense: it fully supports its state-owned Bank of North Dakota (BND), a socialist relic that exists nowhere else in America. Why is financial socialism still alive in North Dakota? Why haven't the North Dakotan free-market crusaders slain it dead?

Because it works.

Much More: Why Is Socialism Doing So Darn Well in Deep-Red North Dakota? | Alternet

it should also be noted

that North Dakota

has just been named the freest state in the nation

Libertarians name North Dakota ?most free? state - Salon.com

 

[KnobbyWalsh]

 

[zeke]

By Les Leopold

North Dakota's thriving state bank makes a mockery of Wall Street's casino banking system -- and that's why financial elites want to crush it.

North Dakota is the very definition of a red state. It voted 58 percent to 39 percent for Romney over Obama, and its statehouse and senate have a total of 104 Republicans and only 47 Democrats. The Republican super-majority is so conservative it recently passed the nation's most severe anti-abortion resolution – a measure that declares a fertilized human egg has the same right to life as a fully formed person.

But North Dakota is also red in another sense: it fully supports its state-owned Bank of North Dakota (BND), a socialist relic that exists nowhere else in America. Why is financial socialism still alive in North Dakota? Why haven't the North Dakotan free-market crusaders slain it dead?

Because it works.

Much More: Why Is Socialism Doing So Darn Well in Deep-Red North Dakota? | Alternet

it should also be noted

that North Dakota

has just been named the freest state in the nation
Libertarians name North Dakota ?most free? state - Salon.com

Maybe all the rethugs in my state will be moving there very soon. I can only hope. Then again, when they hear the word "free" they may all get cornfused and end up in Kansas.
Poor Kansas.

 

[KnobbyWalsh]

Much More: Why Is Socialism Doing So Darn Well in Deep-Red North Dakota? | Alternet

it should also be noted

that North Dakota

has just been named the freest state in the nation
Libertarians name North Dakota ?most free? state - Salon.com

Maybe all the rethugs in my state will be moving there very soon. I can only hope. Then again, when they hear the word "free" they may all get cornfused and end up in Kansas.
Poor Kansas.

According to my friend in Kansas, I think they're already there!

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Much More: Why Is Socialism Doing So Darn Well in Deep-Red North Dakota? | Alternet

Very simple! It is called Laissez-faire (or sometimes laisser-faire) is an economic environment in which transactions between private parties are free from tariffs, government subsidies and if it works for them God bless em!

The issue is does socialism work FOR EVERYONE. History has pointed out there has never been as successful society as the USA which is NOT a socialistic based economy. No one every said socialism wouldn't work. It works in small closed environments but will NOT work in
50 independent states with thousands of independent towns and counties and independent people all standing around waiting for central planners to determine how much we all should pay for gas!
What country is more ethnically diverse, USA, Brazil or South Africa?
1st - USA
2nd - Brazil
3rd - South Africa

Brazil has the largest number of italian, lebanese and japanese descendants and the second largest number of german descendants in the world. USA has the largest number of german descendants. There are almost all nationalities in Brazil,
but USA has even more: philippine, thai, korean, hindustani etc (that kind of nationality is rare in Brazil).

So how can there be any socialism with 310 million people EACH with their own identity and very little national cohesion but greater cohesion
in their homes, cities, counties, state!
No one ever said Socialism doesn't work... but not on the grand scale of the USA!

What bullshit. Socialism is alive and well in the US. In fact, our National Park System is the very definition of socialism, saving the very best and most unique for the enjoyment of all citizens, and it is the crown jewel of our nation. Our BLM and National Forest Systems are also very successful, and have preserved lands that would have otherwise been devastated by unwise use. Social Security has, for the most of us, eliminated the spector of grinding poverty in old age. There are many other examples of socialism on a national scale implemented for a short time in emergencies that worked very well. The WPA, CCCs, REA, and many others that helped build this nation.

AND...let's not forget the NFL. Yes, that stands for the National Football League.

"The ultimate Monday morning quarterback has got to be NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, who gathers his senior staff and officials on Monday to review the weekend's games - including controversial plays and calls. For the first time ever, cameras were allowed in this NFL meeting, and "60 Minutes" was there as they dissected and discussed some incidents in the first round of the playoffs. In this profile of Goodell, Steve Kroft examines the NFL's unusual business structure: 32 member teams whose players compete on the field, but whose owners cooperate in the business of keeping America's favorite pastime profitable. Wildly profitable. It's a $10 billion-a-year business, with soaring revenues and television ratings through the roof.""

The NFL Commissioner: Roger Goodell - CBS News

 

[jon_berzerk]

it should also be noted

that North Dakota

has just been named the freest state in the nation
Libertarians name North Dakota ?most free? state - Salon.com

Maybe all the rethugs in my state will be moving there very soon. I can only hope. Then again, when they hear the word "free" they may all get cornfused and end up in Kansas.
Poor Kansas.

According to my friend in Kansas, I think they're already there!

speaking of kansas

the house just passed he Second Amendment Protection Act

94-29

Kansas House of Representatives Passes Gun Control Nullification

On Thursday, March 14, the Kansas House of Representatives approved House Bill 2199, the Second Amendment Protection Act, which would nullify any new federal restrictions — passed either by Congress, presidential executive order, agency order, rule, or regulation — on firearms, magazines, and ammunition.

The bill originally passed Wednesday, March 13, by a voice vote, but the actual official recorded vote was not taken until Thursday, when it passed 94-29.

On Tuesday, during a debate over the bill on the floor, one representative who was against the bill stated that Kansas should not “punish” federal agents ordered to enforce federal gun controls in the state of Kansas. “The citizens of Kansas belong to the United States,” said the speaker.

State Representative Brett Hildabrand (R-17) took to the podium and replied:

The citizens of Kansas do not belong to the United States. The United States belongs to the citizens of Kansas! We cannot allow the response, “I was following orders” to be an excuse for violating our Constitutional rights. How many atrocities have been committed in history by people simply following orders?

For the first time in three years, members broke chamber rules and erupted into applause, according to Hildabrand’s Facebook page.

The key provision of Kansas’ Second Amendment Protection Act reads, in part:

Sec. 6. (a) Any act, law, treaty, order, rule or regulation of the government of the United States which violates the second amendment to the constitution of the United States is null, void and unenforceable in the state of Kansas.

Kansas House of Representatives Passes Gun Control Nullification

 

[MeBelle]

By Les Leopold

North Dakota's thriving state bank makes a mockery of Wall Street's casino banking system -- and that's why financial elites want to crush it.

Much More: Why Is Socialism Doing So Darn Well in Deep-Red North Dakota? | Alternet

Has anyone looked to see if they can get a personal checking account here?

 

[KnobbyWalsh]

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Federal insurance distorts business decisions.

 

[zeke]

it should also be noted

that North Dakota

has just been named the freest state in the nation
Libertarians name North Dakota ?most free? state - Salon.com

Maybe all the rethugs in my state will be moving there very soon. I can only hope. Then again, when they hear the word "free" they may all get cornfused and end up in Kansas.
Poor Kansas.

According to my friend in Kansas, I think they're already there!

Hey Knobby. How the hell are you? I spent a summer in Kansas. Manhattan Kansas to be exact, where the Univ of Kansas is located. Or is it the Kansas Univ? Either way. Manhattan Kansas was a lot of fun in 1975. Electric koolaid in the morning and nasty home grown all day long. Did you know that Kansas was one of the prime growing areas in the country for hemp? Back when we used a lot more hemp for things other than smoking. And I met people in Kansas who knew where fields of the nastiest, funkiest, stinkinest (not in a good way) hemp was located. And you couldn't get high from it if you smoked a pound. Just a bad headache.

Which leads us back to the Kansas of today. Full of Rethugs that give me a bad headache.

Guess not much has changed.

 

[Freewill]

Much More: Why Is Socialism Doing So Darn Well in Deep-Red North Dakota? | Alternet

Very simple! It is called Laissez-faire (or sometimes laisser-faire) is an economic environment in which transactions between private parties are free from tariffs, government subsidies and if it works for them God bless em!

The issue is does socialism work FOR EVERYONE. History has pointed out there has never been as successful society as the USA which is NOT a socialistic based economy. No one every said socialism wouldn't work. It works in small closed environments but will NOT work in
50 independent states with thousands of independent towns and counties and independent people all standing around waiting for central planners to determine how much we all should pay for gas!
What country is more ethnically diverse, USA, Brazil or South Africa?
1st - USA
2nd - Brazil
3rd - South Africa

Brazil has the largest number of italian, lebanese and japanese descendants and the second largest number of german descendants in the world. USA has the largest number of german descendants. There are almost all nationalities in Brazil,
but USA has even more: philippine, thai, korean, hindustani etc (that kind of nationality is rare in Brazil).

So how can there be any socialism with 310 million people EACH with their own identity and very little national cohesion but greater cohesion
in their homes, cities, counties, state!
No one ever said Socialism doesn't work... but not on the grand scale of the USA!

What bullshit. Socialism is alive and well in the US. In fact, our National Park System is the very definition of socialism, saving the very best and most unique for the enjoyment of all citizens, and it is the crown jewel of our nation. Our BLM and National Forest Systems are also very successful, and have preserved lands that would have otherwise been devastated by unwise use. Social Security has, for the most of us, eliminated the spector of grinding poverty in old age. There are many other examples of socialism on a national scale implemented for a short time in emergencies that worked very well. The WPA, CCCs, REA, and many others that helped build this nation.

so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
Noun
1.A political and economic theory of that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated...
2.(in Marxist theory) A transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.


Sorry but your examples falls short.

 

[Freewill]

The population of ND is 699,628 hardly a suburb of NYC. So to compare how 330,000,000 million live together to that of a very small and spread out people is really, really idiotic.

 

[KnobbyWalsh]

Maybe all the rethugs in my state will be moving there very soon. I can only hope. Then again, when they hear the word "free" they may all get cornfused and end up in Kansas.
Poor Kansas.

According to my friend in Kansas, I think they're already there!

Hey Knobby. How the hell are you? I spent a summer in Kansas. Manhattan Kansas to be exact, where the Univ of Kansas is located. Or is it the Kansas Univ? Either way. Manhattan Kansas was a lot of fun in 1975. Electric koolaid in the morning and nasty home grown all day long. Did you know that Kansas was one of the prime growing areas in the country for hemp? Back when we used a lot more hemp for things other than smoking. And I met people in Kansas who knew where fields of the nastiest, funkiest, stinkinest (not in a good way) hemp was located. And you couldn't get high from it if you smoked a pound. Just a bad headache.

Which leads us back to the Kansas of today. Full of Rethugs that give me a bad headache.

Guess not much has changed.

What's up freak? AND, they produced my FAVORITE band of all time! I get a lot of funny stories from my buddy who moved there last fall. He is as a-political as they come and says the people there are incredibly stupid!

 

[jon_berzerk]

Very simple! It is called Laissez-faire (or sometimes laisser-faire) is an economic environment in which transactions between private parties are free from tariffs, government subsidies and if it works for them God bless em!

The issue is does socialism work FOR EVERYONE. History has pointed out there has never been as successful society as the USA which is NOT a socialistic based economy. No one every said socialism wouldn't work. It works in small closed environments but will NOT work in
50 independent states with thousands of independent towns and counties and independent people all standing around waiting for central planners to determine how much we all should pay for gas!
What country is more ethnically diverse, USA, Brazil or South Africa?
1st - USA
2nd - Brazil
3rd - South Africa

Brazil has the largest number of italian, lebanese and japanese descendants and the second largest number of german descendants in the world. USA has the largest number of german descendants. There are almost all nationalities in Brazil,
but USA has even more: philippine, thai, korean, hindustani etc (that kind of nationality is rare in Brazil).

So how can there be any socialism with 310 million people EACH with their own identity and very little national cohesion but greater cohesion
in their homes, cities, counties, state!
No one ever said Socialism doesn't work... but not on the grand scale of the USA!

What bullshit. Socialism is alive and well in the US. In fact, our National Park System is the very definition of socialism, saving the very best and most unique for the enjoyment of all citizens, and it is the crown jewel of our nation. Our BLM and National Forest Systems are also very successful, and have preserved lands that would have otherwise been devastated by unwise use. Social Security has, for the most of us, eliminated the spector of grinding poverty in old age. There are many other examples of socialism on a national scale implemented for a short time in emergencies that worked very well. The WPA, CCCs, REA, and many others that helped build this nation.

so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
Noun
1.A political and economic theory of that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated...
2.(in Marxist theory) A transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.


Sorry but your examples fall short.

North Dakota is not a prime example of socialism

--LOL

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Meanwhile, real Democrat run Socialism continues the inexorable decline of CA, NY, IL and has brought down entire US cities

 

[KnobbyWalsh]

Meanwhile, real Democrat run Socialism continues the inexorable decline of CA, NY, IL and has brought down entire US cities

You forgot the other socialists, Republicans, who also pollute Washingstan, DC.

 

[Two Thumbs]

By Les Leopold

North Dakota's thriving state bank makes a mockery of Wall Street's casino banking system -- and that's why financial elites want to crush it.

North Dakota is the very definition of a red state. It voted 58 percent to 39 percent for Romney over Obama, and its statehouse and senate have a total of 104 Republicans and only 47 Democrats. The Republican super-majority is so conservative it recently passed the nation's most severe anti-abortion resolution – a measure that declares a fertilized human egg has the same right to life as a fully formed person.

But North Dakota is also red in another sense: it fully supports its state-owned Bank of North Dakota (BND), a socialist relic that exists nowhere else in America. Why is financial socialism still alive in North Dakota? Why haven't the North Dakotan free-market crusaders slain it dead?

Because it works.

Much More: Why Is Socialism Doing So Darn Well in Deep-Red North Dakota? | Alternet

PA, a blue state, own and operates all liqueur stores.

Wasn't dems that wanted people to be free?





in other words; you're an idiot for not doing some research


again

 

[Two Thumbs]

Meanwhile, real Democrat run Socialism continues the inexorable decline of CA, NY, IL and has brought down entire US cities

You forgot the other socialists, Republicans, who also pollute Washingstan, DC.

true

but DC is dominated by dems

 

[KnobbyWalsh]

Meanwhile, real Democrat run Socialism continues the inexorable decline of CA, NY, IL and has brought down entire US cities

You forgot the other socialists, Republicans, who also pollute Washingstan, DC.

true

but DC is dominated by dems

If you call Democrats socialist, then by definition, so are Republicans, which is why I subscribe to neither. Talk different talks, walk the same walk.

 

[Freewill]

What bullshit. Socialism is alive and well in the US. In fact, our National Park System is the very definition of socialism, saving the very best and most unique for the enjoyment of all citizens, and it is the crown jewel of our nation. Our BLM and National Forest Systems are also very successful, and have preserved lands that would have otherwise been devastated by unwise use. Social Security has, for the most of us, eliminated the spector of grinding poverty in old age. There are many other examples of socialism on a national scale implemented for a short time in emergencies that worked very well. The WPA, CCCs, REA, and many others that helped build this nation.

so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
Noun
1.A political and economic theory of that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated...
2.(in Marxist theory) A transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.


Sorry but your examples fall short.

North Dakota is not a prime example of socialism

--LOL

Agreed