Why is the USA defending UKRAINE?

[JWBooth]

In the protection of democracy.

Pfffffft

 

[justoffal]

See you say you condemn Putin's attack, BUT THEN YOU SAY SHIT LIKE THIS.

Nobody FORCED Putin, he CHOSE to pronounce Ukraine to be Russian property and to invade it.

How about you stop deflecting and politiking and put the blame WHERE IT BELONGS.

He was effectively forced to respond.
This confrontation is ten years in the making and virtually inevitable...what?? you actually think the west didn't want this?? NATO??....then you are naive.

Jo

 

[justoffal]

In the protection of democracy.

Well that sure as hell rules out Ukraine.

Commentary: Ukraineâs neo-Nazi problem

As Ukraine's struggle against Russia and its proxies continues, Kiev must also contend with a growing problem behind the front lines: far-right vigilantes who are willing to use intimidation and even violence to advance their agendas, and who often do so with the tacit approval of law...

www.reuters.com

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Well that sure as hell rules out Ukraine.

Commentary: Ukraineâs neo-Nazi problem

As Ukraine's struggle against Russia and its proxies continues, Kiev must also contend with a growing problem behind the front lines: far-right vigilantes who are willing to use intimidation and even violence to advance their agendas, and who often do so with the tacit approval of law...

www.reuters.com

That’s exactly what support for Ukraine is about. Of course you don’t understand such things.

 

[Rigby5]

Da, was better when Russia ruled in Eastern Europe. More peace. Better for world. Say hello Natasha

Satire noted, but the facts are eastern Ukraine should never have been part of the Ukraine, and was deliberately given to the Ukraine by Khrushchev in 1955, for some secret deal.
Eastern Ukraine, like the Donetsk and Crimea were always ethnic Russian and part of Russia for over 1000 years.
The Ukraine, in contrast, is the remainder of the old corrupt Polish and Cossack empire before Russia.
As bad as Russia is, the Ukraine is far more corrupt and evil.

 

[Rigby5]

That’s exactly what support for Ukraine is about. Of course you don’t understand such things.

Nope, you are totally wrong.
Putin is the ethical one in this case.
The Ukraine was given independence in 1991 under the 4 conditions Putin still insists on now.
No abuse of ethnic Russians.
Return of ethnic Russian provinces like Donetsk and Crimea.
No foreign alliances against Russia, (like NATO).
No nuclear weapons.
No theft of Russian goods, like pipelines.

The Ukraine deliberately violated every single clause their treaty, and deserve total invasion and the creation of a new and honest government.

 

[The Original Tree]

Ukraine is not NATO.

Why is the US meddling in the business of other soverign nations?

Why, specifically, is this good for US citizens?

It's all Kabuki Theater!

COVID19 to PUTIN22

 

[The Original Tree]

Nope, you are totally wrong.
Putin is the ethical one in this case.
The Ukraine was given independence in 1991 under the 4 conditions Putin still insists on now.
No abuse of ethnic Russians.
Return of ethnic Russian provinces like Donetsk and Crimea.
No foreign alliances against Russia, (like NATO).
No nuclear weapons.
No theft of Russian goods, like pipelines.

The Ukraine deliberately violated every single clause their treaty, and deserve total invasion and the creation of a new and honest government.

Hate to say this, but I sorta agree with you. There did not need to be a war over it though.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Nope, you are totally wrong.
Putin is the ethical one in this case.
The Ukraine was given independence in 1991 under the 4 conditions Putin still insists on now.
No abuse of ethnic Russians.
Return of ethnic Russian provinces like Donetsk and Crimea.
No foreign alliances against Russia, (like NATO).
No nuclear weapons.
No theft of Russian goods, like pipelines.

The Ukraine deliberately violated every single clause their treaty, and deserve total invasion and the creation of a new and honest government.

Russia has no legal claim to Ukraine. Period.

You can claim whatever you wish and dance around repeating it endlessly but you will always be wrong.

You are a degenerate apologist.

 

[The Original Tree]

Russia has no legal claim to Ukraine. Period.

You can claim whatever you wish and dance around repeating it endlessly but you will always be wrong.

You are a degenerate apologist.

Things don't happen by accident these days. This was planned.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Things don't happen by accident these days. This was planned.

Ya think? Putin was obviously planning this for some time.

 

[Rigby5]

Russia has no legal claim to Ukraine. Period.

You can claim whatever you wish and dance around repeating it endlessly but you will always be wrong.

You are a degenerate apologist.

Wrong.
The Donetsk, Crimea, etc. were part of Russia until a secret deal with Khrushchev in 1955, had been part of Russia for over 1000 years, and are populated by ethnic Russians who voiced their right of local autonomy, to be returned to Russia.
The Ukraine is the evil law breaker, violating the rights of the local people.

 

[Rigby5]

Ya think? Putin was obviously planning this for some time.

Wrong.
Putin always was negotiating.
It was the Ukraine that deliberately broke off negotiations, in order to ensure a war started.
They were counting on NATO jets.
They lost.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Wrong.
The Donetsk, Crimea, etc. were part of Russia until a secret deal with Khrushchev in 1955, had been part of Russia for over 1000 years, and are populated by ethnic Russians who voiced their right of local autonomy, to be returned to Russia.
The Ukraine is the evil law breaker, violating the rights of the local people.

Save it for your trial. Tell your story when you get to The Hague.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Wrong.
Putin always was negotiating.
It was the Ukraine that deliberately broke off negotiations, in order to ensure a war started.
They were counting on NATO jets.
They lost.

Sure.
Putin was forced to invade.
That is some dumb shit even for you.

 

[JLW]

Nope, you are totally wrong.
Putin is the ethical one in this case.
The Ukraine was given independence in 1991 under the 4 conditions Putin still insists on now.
No abuse of ethnic Russians.
Return of ethnic Russian provinces like Donetsk and Crimea.
No foreign alliances against Russia, (like NATO).
No nuclear weapons.
No theft of Russian goods, like pipelines.

The Ukraine deliberately violated every single clause their treaty, and deserve total invasion and the creation of a new and honest government.

What Bullshit.

Ukraine declared independence in 1991 after a Referendum was passed opting out of the Soviet Union.

Ukraine agreed to give up its nuclear weapons after assurances from the West. It destroyed its nuclear weapons in 1994 and joined the Treaty on the Non-proliferation of Nuclear Weapons.

It is utter stupidity to call Putin "the ethical one."

Putin has continually violated Ukaine's sovereignty and is now responsible for millions of refugees, destruction of cities and the slaughter of innocents.

I can see from the posts and likes you received that this board is full of Putin's pussies. What a disgrace.

 

[The Original Tree]

Ya think? Putin was obviously planning this for some time.

With The World Economic Forum, UN Sustainable Development and Global Government Fascists.
They need a boogie man to keep up the pressure to move us to a Global Digital Currency and Global Government.

 

[g5000]

We didnt defend Crimea.

Why defend the rest of Ukraine now?

It has a huge population of ethnic Russians in its borders.

Most of you ill informed fucks have no idea.

You must be one of those tards who thinks Putin will stop with Ukraine.

 

[Rigby5]

Save it for your trial. Tell your story when you get to The Hague.

The Ukraine already lost in the World Court in the Hague in 2012, when they were ruled against for having stolen over $20 billion in Russian gas and oil.
That alone justifies an invasion.

 

[Rigby5]

What Bullshit.

Ukraine declared independence in 1991 after a Referendum was passed opting out of the Soviet Union.

Ukraine agreed to give up its nuclear weapons after assurances from the West. It destroyed its nuclear weapons in 1994 and joined the Treaty on the Non-proliferation of Nuclear Weapons.

It is utter stupidity to call Putin "the ethical one."

Putin has continually violated Ukaine's sovereignty and is now responsible for millions of refugees, destruction of cities and the slaughter of innocents.

I can see from the posts and likes you received that this board is full of Putin's pussies. What a disgrace.

Wrong.
The Ukraine is totally and completely corrupt, not only censoring, imprisoning, and murdering, but stealing oil, attempting to join NATO, etc.
All of which are treaty violations sufficient to justify war.
The Ukraine also have a long history of corruption, going back to 1600.
That is the "Taras Bulba" era, when the Turks were on the wain, and the corrupt imperial Polish aristocracy was taking over.