Why it is impossible for abortion to be a state’s issue

[Billy000]

I’m sure Trump thinks he’s brilliant for declaring it is a state issue despite his previous condemnation of it in the past, but it simply does not make any sense. Half of all abortions happen because of two drugs regulated by the FDA. You can’t let the states decide if federal law is what makes it possible to begin with.

Column: Trump fans say he speaks his mind. But on some subjects, he's as slippery as an eel

Donald Trump isn't telling you what he thinks about abortion, Obamacare and the federal budget. Why? Because it won't help him beat Biden in the election.

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[whitehall]

Regardless of Doyle McManus's (who the hell is he?) opinion, it's quite possible for states to regulate abortion and impossible for the federal government.

 

[Oddball]

I’m sure Trump thinks he’s brilliant for declaring it is a state issue despite his previous condemnation of it in the past, but it simply does not make any sense. Half of all abortions happen because of two drugs regulated by the FDA. You can’t let the states decide if federal law is what makes it possible to begin with.

Column: Trump fans say he speaks his mind. But on some subjects, he's as slippery as an eel

Donald Trump isn't telling you what he thinks about abortion, Obamacare and the federal budget. Why? Because it won't help him beat Biden in the election.

www.yahoo.com

It is a state's issue, and will remain so for a long long time.

Suck on it.

 

[Billy000]

Regardless of Doyle McManus's (who the hell is he?) opinion, it's quite possible for states to regulate abortion and impossible for the federal government.

And yet you ignore the most salient fact which is that the federal government regulates the drugs.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

I’m sure Trump thinks he’s brilliant for declaring it is a state issue despite his previous condemnation of it in the past, but it simply does not make any sense. Half of all abortions happen because of two drugs regulated by the FDA. You can’t let the states decide if federal law is what makes it possible to begin with.

Column: Trump fans say he speaks his mind. But on some subjects, he's as slippery as an eel

Donald Trump isn't telling you what he thinks about abortion, Obamacare and the federal budget. Why? Because it won't help him beat Biden in the election.

www.yahoo.com

The problem here (and indeed this problem has deep constitutional implications) is that Congress only has the authority to regulate interstate commerce. Congress has no authority to regulate intrastate commerce. Congress thus has no legal authority to regulate any drug use that occurs within a state. Hopefully SCOTUS will overturn the Gibbons v. Ogden, Wickard v. Filburn, and other legal abominations.

 

[wamose]

The only reason Democrats think it should be a federal issue is because they need something to run on. It's bad enough upstate NY has to succumb to the morbid values of NYC. I sure as hell don't want other rural areas of the country to be forced to accept their morbid values.

 

[Votto]

I’m sure Trump thinks he’s brilliant for declaring it is a state issue despite his previous condemnation of it in the past, but it simply does not make any sense. Half of all abortions happen because of two drugs regulated by the FDA. You can’t let the states decide if federal law is what makes it possible to begin with.

Column: Trump fans say he speaks his mind. But on some subjects, he's as slippery as an eel

Donald Trump isn't telling you what he thinks about abortion, Obamacare and the federal budget. Why? Because it won't help him beat Biden in the election.

www.yahoo.com

The abortion industry is a billion dollar industry that gives billions to politicians.

Add to that the additional preoccupation with globalists to reduce population numbers, and what you have is unrestricted abortion on demand as each state votes to amend infanticide into their Constitutions till the end of time.

In fact, after Roe was overturned, there have been more abortions than before. For you see, Roe had restrictions, but these state constitutions that allow abortion after Roe do not.

Overturning Roe was the only way democrats could have done away with abortion restrictions, because the majority of Americans favor abortion early on, but not later on. It was an underhanded way to get Americans to vote for something they really did not support.

Why in the hell are you still crying about this as everything turns your way?

 

[Billy000]

The problem here (and indeed this problem has deep constitutional implications) is that Congress only has the authority to regulate interstate commerce. Congress has no authority to regulate intrastate commerce. Congress thus has no legal authority to regulate any drug use that occurs within a state. Hopefully SCOTUS will overturn the Gibbons v. Ogden, Wickard v. Filburn, and other legal abominations.

This doesn’t make any goddamn sense. If that were true, the abortion drugs could only be used in the states they are created in. Obviously that isn’t the case.

 

[Missourian]

I’m sure Trump thinks he’s brilliant for declaring it is a state issue despite his previous condemnation of it in the past, but it simply does not make any sense. Half of all abortions happen because of two drugs regulated by the FDA. You can’t let the states decide if federal law is what makes it possible to begin with.

Column: Trump fans say he speaks his mind. But on some subjects, he's as slippery as an eel

Donald Trump isn't telling you what he thinks about abortion, Obamacare and the federal budget. Why? Because it won't help him beat Biden in the election.

www.yahoo.com

Under federal law weed is illegal.

States made it legal.

No different.

 

[Billy000]

Under federal law weed is illegal.

States made it legal.

No different.

That isn’t the point. The matter at hand is that the drugs that account for half of them are regulated by the FDA. It is, whether you like it or not, a federal issue.

 

[Missourian]

This doesn’t make any goddamn sense. If that were true, the abortion drugs could only be used in the states they are created in. Obviously that isn’t the case.

Bill...use your brain.

This is the same logic you apply to AR15s.

The federal government says they are legal.

Massachusetts says they are not legal.

You applaud that.

See how it works?

 

[Billy000]

Bill...use your brain.

This is the same logic you apply to AR15s.

The federal government says they are legal.

Massachusetts says they are not legal.

You applaud that.

See how it works?

I don’t even know what your point is. I don’t think AR-15’s are unconstitutional. We could certainly pass a law to bar the manufacture of them. I would definitely get behind that. I just don’t currently think it’s some illegal mass produced product

 

[Missourian]

I don’t even know what your point is. I don’t think AR-15’s are unconstitutional. We could certainly pass a law to bar the manufacture of them. I would definitely get behind that. I just don’t currently think it’s some illegal mass produced product

Massachusetts made AR15s illegal.

How'd they do that if AR15s are 100% legal at the federal level?

The same way a state can make a drug illegal.

 

[22lcidw]

I don’t even know what your point is. I don’t think AR-15’s are unconstitutional. We could certainly pass a law to bar the manufacture of them. I would definitely get behind that. I just don’t currently think it’s some illegal mass produced product

Should we compare a serial killer to a woman who has had many abortions and even children from multiple fathers? The real issue is the number of abortions which implies behaviors with no concern.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

This doesn’t make any goddamn sense. If that were true, the abortion drugs could only be used in the states they are created in. Obviously that isn’t the case.

It would make sense if the government obeyed the Constitution. But thanks to a series of bonkers SCOTUS decisions the Interstate Commerce Clause has been interpreted to mean that Congress can make laws about anything it wants to.

 

[Lesh]

It’s only (currently) a states rights issue because Republicans see that as a way to end abortions.

When they decide to use the force of the Federal government to end abortions it will no longer be a states rights issue

 

[Votto]

It’s only (currently) a states rights issue because Republicans see that as a way to end abortions.

When they decide to use the force of the Federal government to end abortions it will no longer be a states rights issue

The issue is, when does a person receive inalienable rights?

Is it only when the Birth Fairy waves her magic wand over the infant as the infant exits the womb, making him a human being for the first time?

This is why this is a Federal issue.

Having voters vote in these Constitutional state amendments is asinine, especially when most would vote against late term abortion, but are fooled into voting for these amendments on the premise they must or all abortion will be outlawed forever.

Polls show that the vast number of Americans are against late term abortions.

 

[Lesh]

The issue is, when does a person receive inalienable rights?

Is it only when the Birth Fairy waves her magic wand over the infant as the infant exits the womb, making him a human being for the first time?

This is why this is a Federal issue.

Having voters vote in these Constitutional state amendments is asinine, especially when most would vote against late term abortion, but are fooled into voting for these amendments on the premise they must or all abortion will be outlawed forever.

Polls show that the vast number of Americans are against late term abortions.

And late term abortions are not really the issue.

People (zealots) who rail against them are just trying to find a viable anti abortion argument

 

[my2¢]

I view those on the Pro-Life side of the matter as having much the same conviction as those two hundred years ago supporting the abolition of slavery. I therefore can see why for those with Pro-Life feelings consider it a national issue. Regarding the Pro-Choice side, I'll leave it to those that lean that way for any sort of explanation.