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tl;drUnlike you, I don't have any skin in the game. The findings will be what they are. I'm not at all persuaded that Trump or his team colluded with the Russians, but I'm not going to jump up and down and scream that he's innocent until the FBI says so.None, which is as it should be, since THEY AREN'T FINISHED, yet. Unlike some Trump supporters who will endlessly spin the arguments to say he is innocent and it's proven already, the heads of intelligence and everyone else with a brain will wait for the FBI and the Intelligence Committees to finish their investigations.Soooo.....which current heads of intelligence agencies claim there is any evidence of Russian involvement, Windy?
None?
Which brings up this query.....we proved earlier that you are one of our best sources of Greenhouse Gases....
...so, why are you back with more of the same?
Soooo....there's no quote that says they have evidence??
Excellent.
"None, which is as it should be, since THEY AREN'T FINISHED, yet."
Now....you be sure to cruise on back when they 'finish,' and have evidence.
Pssst....here, from PBS, is why there won't be any:
“There’s no evidence that this was done by the state itself, only evidence it was done by non-state actors that might be Russian-speaking,” said Jeffrey Carr, CEO of the cyber security consultancy firm Taia Global, referring to the evidence available to the public.
That evidence, which was released by private threat assessment companies rather than official channels, indicates hackers used Cyrillic keyboards and operated during Moscow working hours.
But indicators of identity like timestamps, language preferences and IP addresses “can be manipulated or faked rather easily,” said Juan Andres Guerrero-Saade, a senior security researcher at Kaspersky Lab."
Does the U.S. government really know who hacked Democrats' emails?
Ya' think you'll ever figured out that you've been used?
Nicely done, making it a point to undermine the investigation and the work of 17 agencies that know their business. That ought to help your cause.
"Nicely done, making it a point to undermine the investigation and the work of 17 agencies that know their business."
These guys?
'...know their business.."???
Really?
1. "The C.I.A.’s conclusion does not appear to be the product of specific new intelligence obtained since the election, several American officials, including some who had read the agency’s briefing, said on Sunday. Rather, it was an analysis of what many believe is overwhelming circumstantial evidence — evidence that others feel does not support firm judgments — that the Russians put a thumb on the scale for Mr. Trump, and got their desired outcome."
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/11/us/politics/cia-judgment-intelligence-russia-hacking-evidence.html
2. "U.S. Agencies See No Move by Iran to Build a Bomb" U.S. Agencies See No Move by Iran to Build a Bomb U.S. Agencies See No Move by Iran to Build a Bomb
3. "...the FBI dropped the ball yet again. After all these fumbles, the FBI should change its name from the Federal Bureau of Investigation to the Forever Bunch of Idiots. The latest misstep has generated the death of five innocent people at the Ft. Lauderdale airport.
Now maybe Esteban Santiago isn’t an agent for ISIS or Al-Qaeda — and maybe he isn’t even a jihadist terrorist — but he did have a history of erratic behavior and he was complaining of hearing voices. And although he was investigated several times, he was let go, allowed to keep a weapon, and no one thought at the bureau that this person should be on a watch list. Wow.
What did the FBI need to consider him credible? An engraved invitation with a time, place, and an RSVP?
Why was this man allowed to roam free? He obviously needed psychiatric help. He obviously had issues. He was a time bomb just waiting to go off, and the system failed again — not only in failing to help Santiago, but also in preventing the deaths of innocent victims.
How many more times does the bureau need to bungle in the jungle before there is one big shake-up where procedure is re-evaluated and drastic changes are made?" FBI bungled Ft. Lauderdale shooter
4. In May 1998, the CIA didn’t get wind of India’s intention to set off several underground nuclear blasts, in what Richard Shelby, then chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, called a “colossal failure of our nation’s intelligence gathering.” The intelligence agency saved some face a couple weeks later when it warned that Pakistan was preparing to conduct its own nuclear tests, which it did on May 28, 1998. The Ten Biggest American Intelligence Failures
5. In its report on the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the 9/11 Commission noted that the intelligence community, assailed by “an overwhelming number of priorities, flat budgets, an outmoded structure, and bureaucratic rivalries,” had failed to pin down the big-picture threat posed by “transnational terrorism” throughout the 1990s and up to 9/11. In response to the 9/11 Commission’s recommendations, Congress created a national intelligence director and the National Counterterrorism Center to pool intelligence. The Ten Biggest American Intelligence Failures
6. In a February 2003 appearance before the U.N. Security Council to make the case for confronting Iraq, Secretary of State Colin Powell declared that his accusations about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction (WMD) were based on “solid intelligence.” Indeed, an October 2002 intelligence estimate had concluded that Iraq was continuing its WMD program and could make a nuclear weapon “within several months to a year” if it acquired sufficient fissile material. But the United States never found evidence for such programs after its invasion of Iraq — an intelligence failure that President George W. Bush called his “biggest regret.”
The Ten Biggest American Intelligence Failures
7. When President George W. Bush left office, the U.S. had faced 28 Islamist plots after 9/11, only one of which was successful. Now there have been 93 Islamist plots since 9/11, and 14 successful attacks.
.... the vast majority of the terror plots and all of the successful attacks since 9/11 have involved homegrown terrorists—that is, terrorists who radicalized and plotted here in the U.S.
The threat has morphed and the U.S. must now do more to counter homegrown and lone wolf Islamist terrorists.
Obama’s comment obscures the truth that in his eight years in office, as shown by the sharp increase in the number of Islamist plots and successful attacks, the homeland has been less safe.
Claiming victory while the U.S. is in the most active period of terrorist activity since 9/11 is not only pushing a false narrative, but it risks diverting our attention from what needs to be done to defend the U.S. homeland."
Obama’s Terrorism Claim Hides an Inconvenient Truth
8. "... the CIA failed to see the coming collapse of the shah’s government in Iran as well as the fall of the Soviet Union—not to mention the entry of Pakistan and India into the nuclear club. Then came 9/11.
In the wake of that failure, Congress and the Bush administration reorganized the 16 different agencies of the intelligence community (known in the trade as the IC). Among the changes was the effective demotion of the CIA director, long considered the head of the IC, and the creation of a new top job, the director of national intelligence.
In theory, this was supposed to streamline the chain of command and get the IC’s disparate factions—including the vast new Department of Homeland Security, the CIA, the FBI, the National Security Agency, the various military intelligence services and others—to pull together under a leader with direct access to the president.
In practice, it hasn’t worked out that way, with the DNI’s authority more theoretical than practical. In less than six years, we’ve already had five DNIs. In that time, we’ve also seen the Fort Hood massacre, the attempted bombing of an airliner over Detroit, the deaths of seven CIA agents and contractors in Afghanistan in a security-lapse suicide bombing, and the Times Square near-miss." Our "intelligence community" keeps making wild mistakes about Muslims--because it is ideologically committed not to know the truth about Islam
9. "A series of stumbles over the past seven years have given credence to the red flags raised by these experts. In quick succession, the IC failed to predict the so-called Arab Spring, the resurgence of al-Qaeda,[1] the adventurism of Putin, the aggressiveness of China,[2] and a number of terrorist attacks on the U.S., from the Detroit “underwear bomber” to the San Bernardino massacre.[3] The intelligence failures surrounding the Arab Spring were especially important, since the IC had not understood the implications of an entire series of seismic shifts in the strategic landscape, suggesting that there are serious problems with the analytical side of the community. It is noteworthy that the community’s intelligence collection—clandestine and open source—appears not to have focused on the deeper questions of regime stability and the underlying causes for the Arab Spring. In this Backgrounder, the focus will remain on analysis and improvements to the analytic aspects of the IC." Reforming Intelligence: A Proposal for Reorganizing the Intelligence Community and Improving Analysis
10. "The tactical blame falls on the U.S. government, which has grievously failed in its topmost duty to protect American citizens from harm. Specialists on terrorism have been aware for years of this dereliction of duty; now the whole world knows it. Despite a steady beat of major, organized terrorist incidents over 18 years (since the car bombing of the U.S. embassy in Beirut in 1983), Washington has not taken the issue seriously. … American officials have consistently held the view that terrorism is a form of criminal activity. Consequently, they have made their goal the arrest and trying of perpetrators who carry out violent acts. That's all fine and good as far as it goes, but it does not go far enough. This legalistic mindset allows the funders, planners, organizers, and commanders of terrorism to continue their work untouched, ready to carry out more attacks. The better approach is to see terrorism as a form of warfare and to target not just those foot soldiers who actually carry out the violence but the organizations and governments who stand behind them. … Many indications point to the development of a large Islamist terror network within the United States, one visible to anyone who cared to see it. … The information was out there but law enforcement and politicians did not want to see it." U.S Intelligence Mistakes Pre-9/11
11. "...other surveillance activities were used against President's Trump and his associates."
Soooo.....Trump was correct....and every Liberal site, and outlet was lying.
Like this:
FBI Director James Comey testified Monday before the US House Intelligence Committeethat “I have no information that supports those tweets, and we have looked carefully inside the FBI.” “The Department of Justice has asked me to share with you that the answer is the same for the Department of Justice and all its components. The department has no information that supports those tweets,” Comey added." FBI bugged Trump Tower while probing Russian gambling ring | New York Post
Get that????
"...we have looked carefully inside the FBI.” “The Department of Justice has asked me to share with you that the answer is the same for the Department of Justice and all its components."
Have you noticed that, between the two of us, one of us is right and the other is you?
Why don't you just give them a call down there in Washington and tell them they can stop now, you've got all the answers.
You needn't have come back....you've already been put in your place.
