Wikileaks Confirms Hillary Sold Weapons to ISIS

[Contumacious]

And the United States armed Saddam Hussein because he opposed Iran, so yes, the US has a long history of arming people and having those weapons turned on them.

Americans are in the business of spreading weapons throughout the world. That's what a military industrial complex does. A lot of American foreign aid is tied to contracts with American munitions and armaments companies. It's ridiculous to gasp and cry "Hillary armed terrorists" because any weapons shipped to the ME can end up in the hands of people who oppose the US.

EXACTLY


The US armed the Ben Laden and the Afghan Mujahideen

In Syria they armed and financed the "Syrian Resistance" - Obama failed to consider the fact that the Syrian Resistance was populated by Sunnis and former Baathists who hated the US for invading Iraq and removing them from power


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[Contumacious]

Killary -

The Most Dangerous Candidate


Clinton, her neoconservative cohorts, and the US’s Sunni allies in the Middle East—Saudi Arabia, the Gulf States, and Turkey—have their hearts set on yet another regime change in Syria. (Many of these allies have made large donations to the Clinton foundation.) One shudders to think of the death they have envisioned for Shiite Bashar Assad if they’re successful. Clinton fully supports the US’s muddled policy of getting rid of Assad by using Islamic extremists pursuing the same goal. The US has quietly succored ISIS and affiliated jihadists while appearing to fight them, and has done nothing to stop its allies from doing the same.

However, they have been stymied by the Russia-Iranian-Hezbollah alliance, which has proven far more effective against ISIS and its affiliates than the US alliance. Clinton’s proposed response? Institute a no-fly zone over northern Syria, potentially risking a confrontation with the Russian air force and stifling its ability to fight ISIS.

 

[paulitician]

It wasn't just Clinton and Obama. Other nations in the West along with Saudi Arabia, Turkey, UAE supplied cash, weapons, and training to ISIS. It was all part of their immoral illegal 'Regime Change' policy.

 

[Contumacious]

It wasn't just Clinton and Obama. Other nations in the West along with Saudi Arabia, Turkey, UAE supplied cash, weapons, and training to ISIS. It was all part of their immoral illegal 'Regime Change' policy.

True.


But Obama and Killary , knew or should have known that ISIS, then known as the Syrian Resistance , hated our guts because Bush II killed their families , forced them into poverty, forced them into exile and forced them to live under Shiite rule.

 

[Dragonlady]

It wasn't just Clinton and Obama. Other nations in the West along with Saudi Arabia, Turkey, UAE supplied cash, weapons, and training to ISIS. It was all part of their immoral illegal 'Regime Change' policy.

True.


But Obama and Killary , knew or should have known that ISIS, then known as the Syrian Resistance , hated our guts because Bush II killed their families , forced them into poverty, forced them into exile and forced them to live under Shiite rule.

They've been known as ISIS since 2006. The Syrian Resistance was made up of a number of various rebel groups, of which ISIS was just one. There were questions of who the west wanted to arm, but in the end, fear of Assad joining up with Iran were the driving reason for assisting the rebels. Without a strong Iraq to balance Iran, the danger is that Russia, through its connections with Syria and Iran, would gain more influence in the region.

 

[Siete]

Update, June 17: Michael Morell, the deputy director and acting director of the CIA from 2010 to 2013, who also served under the Bush administration, wrote a June 16 piece for Politico, saying that Trump “resurrected an old conspiracy theory … that has no place in our public discourse.” Morell wrote that the Obama administration “went to great lengths to ensure that any aid provided by the United States to the opposition would not fall into the hands of extremists, including the Islamic State and Al Qaeda.” He said the DIA memo was the view of one DIA official in Iraq, and “it was simply wrong in its facts when it indicated that the West was supporting extremists in Syria.”

 

[westwall]

Update, June 17: Michael Morell, the deputy director and acting director of the CIA from 2010 to 2013, who also served under the Bush administration, wrote a June 16 piece for Politico, saying that Trump “resurrected an old conspiracy theory … that has no place in our public discourse.” Morell wrote that the Obama administration “went to great lengths to ensure that any aid provided by the United States to the opposition would not fall into the hands of extremists, including the Islamic State and Al Qaeda.” He said the DIA memo was the view of one DIA official in Iraq, and “it was simply wrong in its facts when it indicated that the West was supporting extremists in Syria.”

I think the recent revelations put this little missive to bed. Don't you? The newly released information shows this now month old hilary apologist to be either lying through his teeth (likely given the company he keeps) or woefully uninformed.

 

[Contumacious]

It wasn't just Clinton and Obama. Other nations in the West along with Saudi Arabia, Turkey, UAE supplied cash, weapons, and training to ISIS. It was all part of their immoral illegal 'Regime Change' policy.

True.


But Obama and Killary , knew or should have known that ISIS, then known as the Syrian Resistance , hated our guts because Bush II killed their families , forced them into poverty, forced them into exile and forced them to live under Shiite rule.

They've been known as ISIS since 2006. The Syrian Resistance was made up of a number of various rebel groups, of which ISIS was just one. There were questions of who the west wanted to arm, but in the end, fear of Assad joining up with Iran were the driving reason for assisting the rebels. Without a strong Iraq to balance Iran, the danger is that Russia, through its connections with Syria and Iran, would gain more influence in the region.

ISIS in Iraq has been known since 2006.

ISIS in Syria has been known since 2013.

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[Contumacious]

Update, June 17: Michael Morell, the deputy director and acting director of the CIA from 2010 to 2013, who also served under the Bush administration, wrote a June 16 piece for Politico, saying that Trump “resurrected an old conspiracy theory … that has no place in our public discourse.” Morell wrote that the Obama administration “went to great lengths to ensure that any aid provided by the United States to the opposition would not fall into the hands of extremists, including the Islamic State and Al Qaeda.” He said the DIA memo was the view of one DIA official in Iraq, and “it was simply wrong in its facts when it indicated that the West was supporting extremists in Syria.”

Bullshit.

These are stateless organizations.

Who the fuck determines who is and is not an "extremist"?

Obama and Killary wanted to help Israel by any means necessary.

They wanted to remove Assad and keep Syria in a turmoil no matter what.

The Obama/Killary mission was to help Israel keep the Golan Heights no matter what.

.Obama also wanted to weaken Syria so that it could not retaliate against Israel in the event that Israel attacked Iran.

But Putin got in the way.

Now is up to Killary and NATO to confront Putin.

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[g5000]

photo looks photshopped js

You choices are REBUT or REFUTE the EVIDENCE


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What evidence? Link to it. Quote from it.

 

[Siete]

viral conspiracy theories run rampant on this board .. . once again when forced to choose former CIA Director Morell over any and all RW partisan hacks on this board, my choice is Morell.

 

[Contumacious]

viral conspiracy theories run rampant on this board .. . once again when forced to choose former CIA Director Morell over any and all RW partisan hacks on this board, my choice is Morell.

HUH?


Former CIA deputy director Michael Morell, who supports Hillary Clinton and insists that Donald Trump is being manipulated by Russian President Vladimir Putin, said that Russians and Iranians in Syria should be killed covertly to “pay the price.”
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[Contumacious]

Clinton, her neoconservative cohorts, and the US’s Sunni allies in the Middle East—Saudi Arabia, the Gulf States, and Turkey—have their hearts set on yet another regime change in Syria. (Many of these allies have made large donations to the Clinton foundation.) One shudders to think of the death they have envisioned for Shiite Bashar Assad if they’re successful. Clinton fully supports the US’s muddled policy of getting rid of Assad by using Islamic extremists pursuing the same goal. The US has quietly succored ISIS and affiliated jihadists while appearing to fight them, and has done nothing to stop its allies from doing the same.

However, they have been stymied by the Russia-Iranian-Hezbollah alliance, which has proven far more effective against ISIS and its affiliates than the US alliance. Clinton’s proposed response? Institute a no-fly zone over northern Syria, potentially risking a confrontation with the Russian air force and stifling its ability to fight ISIS."

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[Contumacious]

Tonight NBC news followed it typical newscast; they demonized Trump - they continue to allege that his campaign is in crisis, that his followers ought not bother to vote , because Hillary has it all wrapped up , Killary's criminality is ignored or downplayed..

 

[paulitician]

It wasn't just Clinton and Obama. Other nations in the West along with Saudi Arabia, Turkey, UAE supplied cash, weapons, and training to ISIS. It was all part of their immoral illegal 'Regime Change' policy.

True.


But Obama and Killary , knew or should have known that ISIS, then known as the Syrian Resistance , hated our guts because Bush II killed their families , forced them into poverty, forced them into exile and forced them to live under Shiite rule.

They've been known as ISIS since 2006. The Syrian Resistance was made up of a number of various rebel groups, of which ISIS was just one. There were questions of who the west wanted to arm, but in the end, fear of Assad joining up with Iran were the driving reason for assisting the rebels. Without a strong Iraq to balance Iran, the danger is that Russia, through its connections with Syria and Iran, would gain more influence in the region.

Good info. Another example of how the Iraq Invasion was such a monumental blunder. It handed Iraq over to the Shiites who are aligned with Iran. It's all such a bloody mess. We need to stop all the meddling, especially in the Middle East. It's time to disengage from the region.

 

[Contumacious]

Look for Trump to Defeat Pravda in November

Those who haven’t already signed on to Hillary will probably drift to Trump. The election will ultimately be decided by the four or five percent of the voters who make up their minds at the last minute. Usually, these are the least informed and least ideological voters. They will tend to choose the more charismatic and telegenic candidate and we all know who that is. That’s why I am sticking with my prediction of several months ago. Trump, 52%, Hillary 48% (counting only the major party vote.) I expect Johnson and Stein to be ignored in the last few weeks and fade. Neither of them is Ross Perot and besides, Trump already has the Perot vote locked down.

 

[Contumacious]

Moving Away from Hillary


Hillary, like many tools, is a wind-up doll: playing the game she was trained to play and unable to consider other issues. Unfortunately, there are many like her. This is the risk to those who have created the monster (the US government) that they may not be able now to control.

It seems to me the “deep-state” prefers the Kissinger / Nixon model – enough tension to keep fear in the population but behind the scenes (and sometimes in public view) a working relationship that involves communication and cooperation in order to minimize the risks.

Clinton offers no hope in this regard; Trump says “Let’s make a deal.”

There is a meaningful subset of the Anglo-elite that prefers “Let’s make a deal.”

 

[Contumacious]

The Real History of NATO Hillary Clinton is Trying to Hide



They said that if you dismantle the Warsaw Pact, we’ll dismantle NATO. And Russia complied with the deal, and the US double-crossed them. They not only kept NATO in existence, they began absorbing former Warsaw Pact countries, moving closer and closer to Russia’s borders, where their final plan was gonna be to absorb Ukraine into NATO, where they could take over the Russian military base in Crimea and establish missiles along Russia’s borders. All in all, just creating more crises and more provocations against a country that has nuclear weapons.

 

[Grizz]

And the United States armed Saddam Hussein because he opposed Iran, so yes, the US has a long history of arming people and having those weapons turned on them.

Americans are in the business of spreading weapons throughout the world. That's what a military industrial complex does. A lot of American foreign aid is tied to contracts with American munitions and armaments companies. It's ridiculous to gasp and cry "Hillary armed terrorists" because any weapons shipped to the ME can end up in the hands of people who oppose the US.

ISIS was never an "ally". ISIS believes themselves to be the one's to usher in the reign of the "Mahdi". They have one purpose and that is to kill and cause chaos, nothing more. It is ridiculous to compare arming Hussein and the Mujahadeen to arming a death cult attempting to bring back their "Messiah".

 

[Grizz]

And the United States armed Saddam Hussein because he opposed Iran, so yes, the US has a long history of arming people and having those weapons turned on them.

Americans are in the business of spreading weapons throughout the world. That's what a military industrial complex does. A lot of American foreign aid is tied to contracts with American munitions and armaments companies. It's ridiculous to gasp and cry "Hillary armed terrorists" because any weapons shipped to the ME can end up in the hands of people who oppose the US.

EXACTLY


The US armed the Ben Laden and the Afghan Mujahideen

In Syria they armed and financed the "Syrian Resistance" - Obama failed to consider the fact that the Syrian Resistance was populated by Sunnis and former Baathists who hated the US for invading Iraq and removing them from power


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Drill further down, the "resistance" was Al Qaeda and ISIS. We have no business arming them.