Will Cultural Conservatives Condemn Rush...

[Uncensored2008]

Both are medical conditions requiring a doctors care

People didn't survive cancer before modern medicine.

They survived pregnancy all the time.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Have any prominent (or not so prominent) cultural conservatives come forward to publicly condemn Rush for his comments about a college coed?

That would be really fucking stupid.

Stupidity is the domain of the left.

Or can we now finally openly acknowledge that cultural conservatives are giving Rush a pass for his comments because he's a conservative?

How about because he's right?

 

[Uncensored2008]

I bet her parents are ready to crawl under a rock over this...

Probably not, they're probably Obama voters.

 

[earlycuyler]

This issue has ZERO to do with reproductive rights, childbearing, birth control, contraception, etc....
This is POLITICS as usual by the perpetually offended liberal left.
By week's end, this story withers on the media vine.
This story is SHIT.

Yup. It was only a stories to those who watch TV to much.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Maybe the prominent Conservatives are just too tired of putting out the silly fires started by the blowhard demagogue Limbaugh.

ROFL

The irony is overwhelming.

You DO realize that the demagogue here is you, doncha sparky?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Only if Georgetown does not deny coverage, which they do so in reality women with a medical need for the pill are denied by Georgetown even when the doctor certifies the need for the pill. But you knew that already.

We clearly need to quit forcing women to attend Georgetown.

 

[Uncensored2008]

But Georgetown has the final say if it is warranted, not the doctor so it is not covered in practice, as you well know.

Then don't go to Georgetown, comrade.

Get Planned Parenthood to open a school, call it Eugenics U.

You thugs have the freedom to do as you will, you're just demanding that you have authority over what others do.

Leftists, always little hitlers.

 

[earlycuyler]

Technically covered but not ACTUALLY covered because Georgetown found a loophole!

technically would be her opinion what does the coverage say?
But it does say she is covered correct?

Only if Georgetown does not deny coverage, which they do so in reality women with a medical need for the pill are denied by Georgetown even when the doctor certifies the need for the pill. But you knew that already.

Georgetown does not need to offer it. Planned parenthood does that for just about free. Its covered by most insurance companies as well as medicare and medicare. The stupid slut need only make an appointment and Poof ! tax payer funded birth control !

 

[Papageorgio]

Obviously not since Georgetown can deny coverage and they have the final say overriding even the doctor.

Birth control is part of the coverage, you can have it if you have a medical condition that warrants it.

But Georgetown has the final say if it is warranted, not the doctor so it is not covered in practice, as you well know.

Where does it say that?

 

[Mustang]

Only if Georgetown does not deny coverage, which they do so in reality women with a medical need for the pill are denied by Georgetown even when the doctor certifies the need for the pill. But you knew that already.

We clearly need to quit forcing women to attend Georgetown.

Actually, you need to stop treating women like shit.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Actually, you need to stop treating women like shit.

By forcing them to go to Georgetown!

 

[Foxfyre]

I take 200mg Ibuprophen to control my arthritis symptoms. Insurance will not pay for my 200 mg Ibuprophen--about $4 for 100 tablets--but will pay for 800 mg Ibuprophen prescribed by my doctor and that is much much more expensive than the 200 mg Ibuprophen. Even though my doctor will prescribe as much of it as anybody could possibly take, I don't WANT to take 800 mg Ibuprophen. I don't need that much medication or the considerable side effects that can come with it. So, I buy my 200 mg Ibuprophen out of pocket and am perfectly happy to do so. I ldon't expect any of the rest of you to buy it for me nor do I expect you to pay higher insurance premiums so that my insurance wll cover it.

And in another time, millions and millions of us women also paid for our contraceptives out of pocket through all our child bearing years when our insurance didn't cover it. It never occurred to any of us that anybody else shouldf be required to furnish that for us. And yeah, an unmarried college girl who went before Congress to force her university to provide her cvontraceptives would definitely have raised eyebrows and the 'slut' word would no doubt have come into play.

Okay times have changed. Women are no longer expected to be discreet and I guess promiscuity is the new 'normal', and marriage or a ring and a date is no longer a requisite to admit you're having sex, and it is okay to have sex with whomever or whenever you want with or without marriage.

But where is it written, that anybody should be responsible for the choices you make other than you?

 

[Uncensored2008]

I take 200mg Ibuprophen to control my arthritis symptoms. Insurance will not pay for my 200 mg Ibuprophen--about $4 for 100 tablets--but will pay for 800 mg Ibuprophen prescribed by my doctor and that is much much more expensive than the 200 mg Ibuprophen. Even though my doctor will prescribe as much of it as anybody could possibly take, I don't WANT to take 800 mg Ibuprophen. I don't need that much medication or the considerable side effects that can come with it. So, I buy my 200 mg Ibuprophen out of pocket and am perfectly happy to do so. I ldon't expect any of the rest of you to buy it for me nor do I expect you to pay higher insurance premiums so that my insurance wll cover it.

And in another time, millions and millions of us women also paid for our contraceptives out of pocket through all our child bearing years when our insurance didn't cover it. It never occurred to any of us that anybody else shouldf be required to furnish that for us. And yeah, an unmarried college girl who went before Congress to force her university to provide her cvontraceptives would definitely have raised eyebrows and the 'slut' word would no doubt have come into play.

Okay times have changed. Women are no longer expected to be discreet and I guess promiscuity is the new 'normal', and marriage or a ring and a date is no longer a requisite to admit you're having sex, and it is okay to have sex with whomever or whenever you want with or without marriage.

But where is it written, that anybody should be responsible for the choices you make other than you?

When one is property of the state, then the state is responsible to care for (or dispose of) them as the rightful owner.

To the left, we are all property of the state.

 

[Foxfyre]

I take 200mg Ibuprophen to control my arthritis symptoms. Insurance will not pay for my 200 mg Ibuprophen--about $4 for 100 tablets--but will pay for 800 mg Ibuprophen prescribed by my doctor and that is much much more expensive than the 200 mg Ibuprophen. Even though my doctor will prescribe as much of it as anybody could possibly take, I don't WANT to take 800 mg Ibuprophen. I don't need that much medication or the considerable side effects that can come with it. So, I buy my 200 mg Ibuprophen out of pocket and am perfectly happy to do so. I ldon't expect any of the rest of you to buy it for me nor do I expect you to pay higher insurance premiums so that my insurance wll cover it.

And in another time, millions and millions of us women also paid for our contraceptives out of pocket through all our child bearing years when our insurance didn't cover it. It never occurred to any of us that anybody else shouldf be required to furnish that for us. And yeah, an unmarried college girl who went before Congress to force her university to provide her cvontraceptives would definitely have raised eyebrows and the 'slut' word would no doubt have come into play.

Okay times have changed. Women are no longer expected to be discreet and I guess promiscuity is the new 'normal', and marriage or a ring and a date is no longer a requisite to admit you're having sex, and it is okay to have sex with whomever or whenever you want with or without marriage.

But where is it written, that anybody should be responsible for the choices you make other than you?

When one is property of the state, then the state is responsible to care for (or dispose of) them as the rightful owner.

To the left, we are all property of the state.

That's the problem that the leftists on this thread (and on a lot of other threads at USMB) simply are intellectually incapable of understanding or they refuse to see or address it. How difficult is it to understand that once the federal government is given power to dictate what you must have, what you must provide to others, what you cannot have, we have no freedoms whatsoever. The government has full license to throw us enough cake to keep us quiet and complacent and can do any damn thing it pleases.

Maybe we're already to that point. I am honestly fearful that we are. But I still have enough yearning and appreciation for unalienable rights and freedom to object until they make that illegal too.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Whatever you claim your MessiahRushie's BEARD says, Sandra Fluke said that even though Georgetown's insurance is supposed to cover the pill for medical conditions they have figured out a way to prevent even that!

From Fluke's testimony:

“When this exception does exist, these exceptions don’t accomplish their well-intended goals because when you let university administrators or other employers rather than women and their doctors dictate whose medical needs are legitimate and whose are not, women’s health takes a back seat to a bureaucracy focused on policing her body.
“In 65% of the cases at our school, our female students were interrogated by insurance representatives and university medical staff about why they needed prescription and whether they were lying about their symptoms.
“For my friend and 20% of the women in her situation, she never got the insurance company to cover her prescription. Despite verifications of her illness from her doctor, her claim was denied repeatedly on the assumption that she really wanted birth control to prevent pregnancy. She’s gay. So clearly polycystic ovarian syndrome was a much more urgent concern than accidental pregnancy for her.
“After months paying over $100 out-of-pocket, she just couldn’t afford her medication anymore, and she had to stop taking it.
“I learned about all of this when I walked out of a test and got a message from her that in the middle of the night in her final exam period she’d been in the emergency room. She’d been there all night in just terrible, excruciating pain. She wrote to me, ‘It was so painful I’d woke up thinking I’ve been shot.’
“Without her taking the birth control, a massive cyst the size of a tennis ball had grown on her ovary. She had to have surgery to remove her entire ovary as a result.
“On the morning I was originally scheduled to give this testimony, she was sitting in a doctor’s office, trying to cope with the consequences of this medical catastrophe.
“Since last year’s surgery, she’s been experiencing night sweats and weight gain and other symptoms of early menopause as a result of the removal of her ovary. She’s 32-years-old.
“As she put it, ‘If my body indeed does enter early menopause, no fertility specialist in the world will be able to help me have my own children. I will have no choice at giving my mother her desperately desired grandbabies simply because the insurance policy that I paid for, totally unsubsidized by my school, wouldn’t cover my prescription for birth control when I needed it.’
“Now, in addition to potentially facing the health complications that come with having menopause at such an early age – increased risk of cancer, heart disease, osteoporosis – she may never be able to conceive a child.
“Some may say that my friend’s tragic story is rare. It’s not. I wish it were
“One woman told us doctors believe she has endometriosis, but that can’t be proven without surgery. So the insurance has not been willing to cover her medication – the contraception she needs to treat her endometriosis.
“Recently, another woman told me that she also has polycystic ovarian syndrome and she’s struggling to pay for her medication and is terrified to not have access to it.
“Due to the barriers erected by Georgetown’s policy, she hasn’t been reimbursed for her medications since last August.
“I sincerely pray that we don’t have to wait until she loses an ovary or is diagnosed with cancer before her needs and the needs of all of these women are taken seriously.

I love this shit. First she says "her friend" was not applying for birth control pill coverage for birth control but for a medical condition. Which in the opinion of her doctor and the insurance company was not warranted. Then she says "she's gay" Later she says she can no longer giver her mother grandchildren.
Ok which is it? Is her friend a lesbian( as stated to imply she had no intention of becoming pregnant and therefore the pills were justified) or is she going to cross over the lesbo line and make it with a guy to "give her mother grandchildren".
Oh and now we get to the BIG LIE. She then states her friend HAS HER OWN INSURANCE POLICY.....Unaffiliated with the school... Hmm, so what the fuck? Why is Ms Flake throwing G'Town under the bus?
What a bunch of nonsense. Like I said, this story is SHIT.
The more Ms Flake speaks, the farther her credibility goes into the crapper.


Hey slit seeder brain.. This is not a woman's health issue. It is a sex without consequence issue. It is the left's notion of being to "do it because it feels good and you'll have no worries issue"..it is a political issue democrats will try to spin and hopefully gain votes.
Who fucking cares. Anyone swayed by this bullshit was't going to vote GOP anyway. So they don't count.

Once your MessiahRushie gets you DittoTards lying about sex, you can't stop yourselves from lying about everything, like her doctor.
Limpboy sure knows his audience, sexless and Godless liars just like him!

Liberal playbook page 2,417....States. "When all arguments fail and the facts are not in your favor, describe your opposition as being a liar or accuse them of lying."
"The idea is compel your opposition to defend the accusation leaving you free to move forward with spreading acceptance of our point of view."

 

[thereisnospoon]

Only if Georgetown does not deny coverage, which they do so in reality women with a medical need for the pill are denied by Georgetown even when the doctor certifies the need for the pill. But you knew that already.

We clearly need to quit forcing women to attend Georgetown.

Actually, you need to stop treating women like shit.

In what way are women being treated like shit?

 

[Uncensored2008]

That's the problem that the leftists on this thread (and on a lot of other threads at USMB) simply are intellectually incapable of understanding or they refuse to see or address it. How difficult is it to understand that once the federal government is given power to dictate what you must have, what you must provide to others, what you cannot have, we have no freedoms whatsoever. The government has full license to throw us enough cake to keep us quiet and complacent and can do any damn thing it pleases.

Maybe we're already to that point. I am honestly fearful that we are. But I still have enough yearning and appreciation for unalienable rights and freedom to object until they make that illegal too.

We may indeed already be at that point. I grew up in a free country and recognize clearly that this no longer is one.

 

[Uncensored2008]

In what way are women being treated like shit?

Well, if the Catholic Church isn't forced to give women birth control or abortificants, then clearly I am personally treating women like shit.

Leftist logic!

 

[Foxfyre]

In what way are women being treated like shit?

Well, if the Catholic Church isn't forced to give women birth control or abortificants, then clearly I am personally treating women like shit.

Leftist logic!

And don't forget. The Catholic Church must not only give women birth control and abortions, but it must provide contraceptives costing $1,000/year. The Costco 40 pak of generic condoms for $9.99 or even the 26 pack of top of the line Trojan Ecstasy Condoms for $11.99 apparently isn't sufficient. Really, just how often did you guys have sex when you were in college? And did your college give you free contraceptives? If I did the math right, and you were using those Trojan condoms, you would have sex 181 times a month or 6 times a day to need $1,000 worth of them in a year. Pretty impressive. Doin't know when you had time to study for law school though.

 

[rightwinger]

In what way are women being treated like shit?

Well, if the Catholic Church isn't forced to give women birth control or abortificants, then clearly I am personally treating women like shit.

Leftist logic!

And don't forget. The Catholic Church must not only give women birth control and abortions, but it must provide contraceptives costing $1,000/year. The Costco 40 pak of generic condoms for $9.99 or even the 26 pack of top of the line Trojan Ecstasy Condoms for $11.99 apparently isn't sufficient. Really, just how often did you guys have sex when you were in college? And did your college give you free contraceptives? If I did the math right, and you were using those Trojan condoms, you would have sex 181 times a month or 6 times a day to need $1,000 worth of them in a year. Pretty impressive. Doin't know when you had time to study for law school though.

Do you and your husband use condoms?