Will Cultural Conservatives Condemn Rush...

[The T]

Women who are not having sex need neither condoms nor the pill or any other device to prevent pregnancy or STDs. So if we are required to pay for her to have contraceptives, we indeed are paying for her to have sex.

Anybody old enough and mature enough to be having sex should accept the responsibility for that choice and should be buying their own protection if they choose to use it. Those who don't use protection should be old enough and mature enough to accept the consequences of a pregnancy and should be ready and able to feed, clothe, house, and educate his/her child.

A society that expects and requires people to be responsible will have far fewer problems and far fewer issues than will one that subsidizes immaturity, irreponsibility and/or poor choices. You might even say that being pretty hard nosed about that is far more compassionate than giving people free stuff so they don't have to be responsible and never learn to be.

*Amen*

Down to brass tacks. With Liberty, comes responsibility, and consequences.

 

[kaz]

It doesn't appear that there are many (as in, any) conservatives willing to come to Rush's defense

That would be because there is no need. He responded to an idiotic argument with an idiotic argument to demonstrate it is idiotic. Just because the stick up their ass crowd wants to take it seriously doesn't mean anyone else needs to.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Who should pay for her to have sex?[]

She never asked for that.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Who should pay for her to have sex?[]

She never asked for that.

She just wants someone to pay for her protection.

 

[edthecynic]

Who should pay for her to have sex?[]

She never asked for that.

She just wants someone to pay for her protection.

No she wants the health insurance SHE pays for to cover it.
Stop parroting your MessiahRushie's lies.

October 14, 2011
RUSH: I say it, you believe it, with no questions.

 

[Stephanie]

She never asked for that.

She just wants someone to pay for her protection.

No she wants the health insurance SHE pays for to cover it.
Stop parroting your MessiahRushie's lies.

October 14, 2011
RUSH: I say it, you believe it, with no questions.

Then she should START her own insurance agency and leave the rest of us alone

 

[The T]

She never asked for that.

She just wants someone to pay for her protection.

No she wants the health insurance SHE pays for to cover it.
Stop parroting your MessiahRushie's lies.

October 14, 2011
RUSH: I say it, you believe it, with no questions.

SHE should seek another company that DOES...

Idiot.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Actually, I prefer the more direct approach. I think Sandra's father should pay Rush a visit and do exactly what conservatives would expect a father to do when someone has trashed his daughter.

A father of a liberal is probably a lib as well. As a result, if confronted, would piss himself or threaten a lawsuit.

You wish. Anyone with any sense knows that you don't mess with any man's daughter. In this case, a rich, powerful, lecherous older man who's nationally famous picked on a fairly defenseless female law student who also happens to be a private citizen. Among other things, it's an abuse of power when a powerful person picks on someone who's relatively defenseless and does so publicly on the airwaves to millions of listeners.

I would LOVE for the cameras to be rolling when those two meet. Let's see how Rush could use his so-called verbal skills to defend himself from Sandra's father when he verbally confronts him. I'm not even talking about a physical altercation. Get Rush out from behind the microphone in his studio, and let's see how he hems and haws when her father demands an explanation for Rush's disgusting behavior. You would quickly see the sniveling coward that Rush is once he's away from his controlled environment.

Oh please..Spare me keyboard bravado.
Yer just pissed off because a fellow lib got crushed for being a pain in the ass.
Ms Fluke has decided her situation is worth her time to go public. Once one goes public they also take a dive into a fish bowl. Well, she got what she asked for.
Lawsuit? For what? "Oh you offended me, I'm suing!!!"...Fuck her.
This spoiled little superficial bitch should have kept her yapper shut.
BTW, your dream of a "confrontation between RL and this girl's daddy is not going to take place.
You are being ridiculous.
I suppose you make excuses for people who got fired after they go back and shoot up their former place of employment....
People like you make me laugh. The more you spout off about how tough you are the more others think you are nothing but a walking talking paperweight.
Spare yourself any further embarrassment and stop posting.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

She never asked for that.

She just wants someone to pay for her protection.

No she wants the health insurance SHE pays for to cover it.
Stop parroting your MessiahRushie's lies.

October 14, 2011
RUSH: I say it, you believe it, with no questions.

She can drop her coverage and find one that protects her promiscuous lifestyle

 

[thereisnospoon]

She never asked for that.

She just wants someone to pay for her protection.

No she wants the health insurance SHE pays for to cover it.
Stop parroting your MessiahRushie's lies.

October 14, 2011
RUSH: I say it, you believe it, with no questions.

She and all other Georgetown students get exactly what they pay for with their student policies. The policy DOES NOT cover for contraception. If she wants that coverage, she is free to buy supplemental coverage.
What is so difficult to understand?
Oh...The insured does not "pay insurance"....The insured pays a premium( fee) for insurance coverage which the client agreed to the coverage and it's terms, conditions and limits as well as deductibles.

 

[naturegirl]

She just wants someone to pay for her protection.

No she wants the health insurance SHE pays for to cover it.
Stop parroting your MessiahRushie's lies.

October 14, 2011
RUSH: I say it, you believe it, with no questions.

She and all other Georgetown students get exactly what they pay for with their student policies. The policy DOES NOT cover for contraception. If she wants that coverage, she is free to buy supplemental coverage.
What is so difficult to understand?
Oh...The insured does not "pay insurance"....The insured pays a premium( fee) for insurance coverage which the client agreed to the coverage and it's terms, conditions and limits as well as deductibles.

Dear God, she can go down the street to Planned Parenthood or the Health Dept and get them for free. Give me a break, she doesn't have time to go somewhere else - in between getting laid............???

 

[bigrebnc1775]

She just wants someone to pay for her protection.

No she wants the health insurance SHE pays for to cover it.
Stop parroting your MessiahRushie's lies.

October 14, 2011
RUSH: I say it, you believe it, with no questions.

She and all other Georgetown students get exactly what they pay for with their student policies. The policy DOES NOT cover for contraception. If she wants that coverage, she is free to buy supplemental coverage.
What is so difficult to understand?
Oh...The insured does not "pay insurance"....The insured pays a premium( fee) for insurance coverage which the client agreed to the coverage and it's terms, conditions and limits as well as deductibles.

according to the slut, Georgetown student insurance does cover in certain circumstance contraceptives, due to medical conditions.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Who should pay for her to have sex?

What ignorance!

How can the author of the article, apparently a woman, know so little about female contraception. A woman has to take her pill(s) every day, regardless of whether she has sex or not.

Nobody is being paid to have sex (with the possible exception of Rush's wife).

Contraception is used to prevent pregnancy.

The way you want it, is by extension her sex life( to have one without consequences) would be funded by other insureds. That is 100% unjust.
She can simply pay for her own contraception or she can keep her pants on.

 

[thereisnospoon]

This issue has ZERO to do with reproductive rights, childbearing, birth control, contraception, etc....
This is POLITICS as usual by the perpetually offended liberal left.
By week's end, this story withers on the media vine.
This story is SHIT.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

This issue has ZERO to do with reproductive rights, childbearing, birth control, contraception, etc....
This is POLITICS as usual by the perpetually offended liberal left.
By week's end, this story withers on the media vine.
This story is SHIT.

I agree 100%

 

[The T]

No she wants the health insurance SHE pays for to cover it.
Stop parroting your MessiahRushie's lies.

October 14, 2011
RUSH: I say it, you believe it, with no questions.

She and all other Georgetown students get exactly what they pay for with their student policies. The policy DOES NOT cover for contraception. If she wants that coverage, she is free to buy supplemental coverage.
What is so difficult to understand?
Oh...The insured does not "pay insurance"....The insured pays a premium( fee) for insurance coverage which the client agreed to the coverage and it's terms, conditions and limits as well as deductibles.

Dear God, she can go down the street to Planned Parenthood or the Health Dept and get them for free. Give me a break, she doesn't have time to go somewhere else - in between getting laid............???

She is a HACKI...she knows these things...it's another setup courtesty of Obama, Pelosi...the Statist Democrats.

 

[Maple]

He was illustrating the absurd by taking their absurdity to its logical exteme.

No foul in my opinion.

I am a conservative and I will no longer tune into Rush Limbaugh, for him to personally attack a young woman because he disagrees with her, is beyond the pale and is beneath the dignity of any Republican. I personally think he should be fired for his comments. He also has handed ammunition to Obama and his cronies and they will attempt to paint all conservatives to the likes of this raving lunatic. Rush Limbaugh can not be the face of our party because if he is we will never win another election.

I also do not want to hear how the dems attacked Palin, I know they did, but we Republicans are held to a much higher standard than any Democrat and we Republicans hold our own to that higher standard.

I personally will no longer listen to Rush Limbaugh, he has insulted all women when he went after this young woman.

 

[Gem]

Rush Limbaugh is a "shock-jock." He did what he gets paid to do. I found it not necessarily offensive, but stupid only because it seemed to me that he was implying that she needed "a lot" of birth control because she was having "a lot" of sex...when most adults know that in order to be effective the birth control pill must be taken once a day regardless of how much sex you are having. This said to me that Rush was not really attacking this woman in any sort of real sense, but was - just as he said - fighting the absurd with absurdity...using hyperbole to prove a point, etc.

He attacked a private individual, and perhaps that is the only part of this that really has an applicability when discussing whether or not it was "too far" but that being said...this is a private individual who admitted publicly and proudly to attending Georgetown knowing full well it would not cover her birth control prescription with the fully stated intent to challenge the system while there. She then spent a good portion of her time at college petitioning Georgetown to change its policy...becoming so well-known for doing this that she was asked to testify before Congress to discuss how the policy affected her and her classmates. She is, of course, still a private citizen...but she is also most definitely and activist for her cause, which places her in the spotlight.

In the end, while I have no problem with Rush apologizing or not apologizing (he says outrageous things for a living and I have better things to do than get my panties in a bunch every time Rush, Maher, Stewart, and the rest say something offensive to one group or person or another), I do have a problem with how the left seems to be turning this issue into nothing more than a name-calling incident and how the right seems to be playing along.

The issue here is much more important than a shock-jock calling an activist a name. The issue here is whether religious organizations have the freedom to refuse to pay for a service that violates their religious tenets, based on their Constitutionally protected rights. It also brings up the issue of what should or should not be an insurable matter and what shouldn't be...at a time when insurance rates and healthcare costs are skyrocketing - in large part because of people expecting (and certainly now, demanding) that everyday expenses be covered by their insurance plan...rather than using insurance for large, unexpected expenses.

There are serious matters this incident brings up....matters that need to be clearly stated and calmly debated.

But whether or not Rush Limbaugh calling a woman who has spent a good portion of that last few years of her life fighting for her right to be provided free contraception by her Catholic university just doesn't strike me as the most important issue here...

It strikes me as a thinly-veiled coverup attempt by people who desperately want to keep moderates and independents thinking that the GOP hates women....while it goes about trampling on the Constitution in order to promote its social agenda and push us closer to nationalized health care.

 

[snakedoc]

Why should it be the responsibility of conservatives to condemn Rush for his comment? Did the liberal progressives condemn Ed Schultz when he called Laura Ingram a slut on his radio show? Both men called a woman a slut it was a stupid thing they both said both issued a apology that should be the end of it if someone from either the right or the left wants to condemn a stupid comment made by someone from their side fine but I don't think anyone should insisting on it unless they wan't to hold their people to the same standard

 

[edthecynic]

No she wants the health insurance SHE pays for to cover it.
Stop parroting your MessiahRushie's lies.

October 14, 2011
RUSH: I say it, you believe it, with no questions.

She and all other Georgetown students get exactly what they pay for with their student policies. The policy DOES NOT cover for contraception. If she wants that coverage, she is free to buy supplemental coverage.
What is so difficult to understand?
Oh...The insured does not "pay insurance"....The insured pays a premium( fee) for insurance coverage which the client agreed to the coverage and it's terms, conditions and limits as well as deductibles.

according to the slut, Georgetown student insurance does cover in certain circumstance contraceptives, due to medical conditions.

Whatever you claim your MessiahRushie's BEARD says, Sandra Fluke said that even though Georgetown's insurance is supposed to cover the pill for medical conditions they have figured out a way to prevent even that!

From Fluke's testimony:

“When this exception does exist, these exceptions don’t accomplish their well-intended goals because when you let university administrators or other employers rather than women and their doctors dictate whose medical needs are legitimate and whose are not, women’s health takes a back seat to a bureaucracy focused on policing her body.
“In 65% of the cases at our school, our female students were interrogated by insurance representatives and university medical staff about why they needed prescription and whether they were lying about their symptoms.
“For my friend and 20% of the women in her situation, she never got the insurance company to cover her prescription. Despite verifications of her illness from her doctor, her claim was denied repeatedly on the assumption that she really wanted birth control to prevent pregnancy. She’s gay. So clearly polycystic ovarian syndrome was a much more urgent concern than accidental pregnancy for her.
“After months paying over $100 out-of-pocket, she just couldn’t afford her medication anymore, and she had to stop taking it.
“I learned about all of this when I walked out of a test and got a message from her that in the middle of the night in her final exam period she’d been in the emergency room. She’d been there all night in just terrible, excruciating pain. She wrote to me, ‘It was so painful I’d woke up thinking I’ve been shot.’
“Without her taking the birth control, a massive cyst the size of a tennis ball had grown on her ovary. She had to have surgery to remove her entire ovary as a result.
“On the morning I was originally scheduled to give this testimony, she was sitting in a doctor’s office, trying to cope with the consequences of this medical catastrophe.
“Since last year’s surgery, she’s been experiencing night sweats and weight gain and other symptoms of early menopause as a result of the removal of her ovary. She’s 32-years-old.
“As she put it, ‘If my body indeed does enter early menopause, no fertility specialist in the world will be able to help me have my own children. I will have no choice at giving my mother her desperately desired grandbabies simply because the insurance policy that I paid for, totally unsubsidized by my school, wouldn’t cover my prescription for birth control when I needed it.’
“Now, in addition to potentially facing the health complications that come with having menopause at such an early age – increased risk of cancer, heart disease, osteoporosis – she may never be able to conceive a child.
“Some may say that my friend’s tragic story is rare. It’s not. I wish it were
“One woman told us doctors believe she has endometriosis, but that can’t be proven without surgery. So the insurance has not been willing to cover her medication – the contraception she needs to treat her endometriosis.
“Recently, another woman told me that she also has polycystic ovarian syndrome and she’s struggling to pay for her medication and is terrified to not have access to it.
“Due to the barriers erected by Georgetown’s policy, she hasn’t been reimbursed for her medications since last August.
“I sincerely pray that we don’t have to wait until she loses an ovary or is diagnosed with cancer before her needs and the needs of all of these women are taken seriously.