Winning: Trump To Allow Americans To Access Lower-Cost Drugs From Canada

[pknopp]

So much for Trump's buy American campaign!

No shit! It's like he's orchestrating new levels of hypocrisy. Wasn't this Bernie's idea anyway?

It was. Bernie even presented it. Is the argument now that Bernie had a great idea?

Let's see if Trump actually ever follows through.

Funny how Obama didn't think it was worthwhile..

WHaaaaaaaaaaaa crying about obama again I guess you had nothing to add to this discussion.

Don't bust your gizzard ignoring the point.

Obama had 8 years to make Canadian drugs legal and didn't. Perhaps the pharm companies purchased Obama's support. Perhaps it's just not going to make a huge impact.

They did. Obama never dealt with this in Obamacare because he was worried they would pull their financial support.
Once again though, that is history.

 

[pknopp]

Let’s say they are made there. It’s a simple recipe to send to a manufacturer. Just like here. So that must not be it. Labor costs are comparable. Shipping is about the same. Packaging isn’t a big deal.

Must be something else.

Our fucked up healthcare and insurance system? Could that be it?

If you mean government intervention then yes.

By law, our government can't negotiate drug prices. Those unfairly high prices are set by pure capitalism.

How do you figure? Capitalism is all about making a good product cheap enough to sell millions of them. By law we must have worse laws than all of those other countries. Why else would a capitalist sell there? It’s not like they’re taking a loss. If it wasn’t profitable to sell in Canada they wouldn’t do it. Yet it is profitable. Maybe you should be asking why it’s profitable to sell in Canada but it is only profitable in the US at twice that price.

It would be profitable in the US at a much lower price than they have now. just not as profitable as they want.

It doesn't address "shareholder value".

 

[BULLDOG]

Our fucked up healthcare and insurance system? Could that be it?

If you mean government intervention then yes.

By law, our government can't negotiate drug prices. Those unfairly high prices are set by pure capitalism.

How do you figure? Capitalism is all about making a good product cheap enough to sell millions of them. By law we must have worse laws than all of those other countries. Why else would a capitalist sell there? It’s not like they’re taking a loss. If it wasn’t profitable to sell in Canada they wouldn’t do it. Yet it is profitable. Maybe you should be asking why it’s profitable to sell in Canada but it is only profitable in the US at twice that price.

It would be profitable in the US at a much lower price than they have now. just not as profitable as they want.

It doesn't address "shareholder value".

Fuck shareholder value.

 

[MarathonMike]

Not tired yet.

Capitalism will drive down the costs.

Trump administration to allow Americans to access lower-cost drugs from Canada

News flash! I've been buying prescription medications from Canada for a decade or more.


Not sure what he's trying to take credit for.

How? Do you know a crooked Canadian Doctor?

I know several senior's who have been purchasing from Canada. I also did a few years back on one particular drug and although I purchased from Canada it was shipped from India.

So I'm curious do they have different laws that don't require a Canadian Doctor to write the prescription for you?

 

[Rocko]

Not tired yet.

Capitalism will drive down the costs.

Trump administration to allow Americans to access lower-cost drugs from Canada

News flash! I've been buying prescription medications from Canada for a decade or more.


Not sure what he's trying to take credit for.

News flash! You’ve been breaking the law.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

It should cause some concern when you're wanting cheaper drugs but the only way to get them cheaper is after they ship them to a foreign country first.

Now, this is the post of the week.

If they are indeed being made here, and I do not know that for certain, they do actually manufacture drugs in Canada as well, why are they so much cheaper there?

As a side note it's something I've been watching closely for about six months.

My wife needs medication that costs 15k a month. My company is self insured. They never complained about it but obviously a concern. They offered us a trip to the Cayman's, all expenses paid. Flights, hotel, car rental, food allowance, even some entertainment money and I get paid for the time to go there and get a six month prescription filled. They showed me the total costs. 90k versus all of that for right at 35k. Her doctors were all for it, same drugs, same testing, same everything. She can't fly just yet so we are going to revisit this in six months. But seriously, WTF.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

If you mean government intervention then yes.

By law, our government can't negotiate drug prices. Those unfairly high prices are set by pure capitalism.

How do you figure? Capitalism is all about making a good product cheap enough to sell millions of them. By law we must have worse laws than all of those other countries. Why else would a capitalist sell there? It’s not like they’re taking a loss. If it wasn’t profitable to sell in Canada they wouldn’t do it. Yet it is profitable. Maybe you should be asking why it’s profitable to sell in Canada but it is only profitable in the US at twice that price.

It would be profitable in the US at a much lower price than they have now. just not as profitable as they want.

It doesn't address "shareholder value".

Fuck shareholder value.

Well then fuck your future advancements. There won't be any.

 

[Third Party]

Not tired yet.

Capitalism will drive down the costs.

Trump administration to allow Americans to access lower-cost drugs from Canada

Like everything else he says, will believe it when we see it. He is totally fos and never retracts anything....just like his and your Heroes over on Fox Rush etc etc garbage propaganda machine....

As opposed to fos lemon? Not a Trump fan, but the other networks suck too, you know.

 

[Crepitus]

Not tired yet.

Capitalism will drive down the costs.

Trump administration to allow Americans to access lower-cost drugs from Canada

News flash! I've been buying prescription medications from Canada for a decade or more.


Not sure what he's trying to take credit for.

How? Do you know a crooked Canadian Doctor?

I know several senior's who have been purchasing from Canada. I also did a few years back on one particular drug and although I purchased from Canada it was shipped from India.

So I'm curious do they have different laws that don't require a Canadian Doctor to write the prescription for you?

Got prescription from my Dr right here in KS.

 

[Crepitus]

Not tired yet.

Capitalism will drive down the costs.

Trump administration to allow Americans to access lower-cost drugs from Canada

News flash! I've been buying prescription medications from Canada for a decade or more.


Not sure what he's trying to take credit for.

News flash! You’ve been breaking the law.

Nope, sorry.

 

[BULLDOG]

By law, our government can't negotiate drug prices. Those unfairly high prices are set by pure capitalism.

How do you figure? Capitalism is all about making a good product cheap enough to sell millions of them. By law we must have worse laws than all of those other countries. Why else would a capitalist sell there? It’s not like they’re taking a loss. If it wasn’t profitable to sell in Canada they wouldn’t do it. Yet it is profitable. Maybe you should be asking why it’s profitable to sell in Canada but it is only profitable in the US at twice that price.

It would be profitable in the US at a much lower price than they have now. just not as profitable as they want.

It doesn't address "shareholder value".

Fuck shareholder value.

Well then fuck your future advancements. There won't be any.

Wrong. That excuse just doesn't make sense. It's easy enough to find out how much profit drug companies make in the US. If you can add and subtract, you can see they wouldn't be hurting too bad with a much smaller profit margin.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Not tired yet.

Capitalism will drive down the costs.

Trump administration to allow Americans to access lower-cost drugs from Canada

News flash! I've been buying prescription medications from Canada for a decade or more.


Not sure what he's trying to take credit for.

How? Do you know a crooked Canadian Doctor?

I know several senior's who have been purchasing from Canada. I also did a few years back on one particular drug and although I purchased from Canada it was shipped from India.

So I'm curious do they have different laws that don't require a Canadian Doctor to write the prescription for you?

Idk about Canada, but I know Mexico does for a lot of simple stuff.

Antibiotics, Asthma meds, decongestants, Prilosec, steroids, maybe even Codeine. A lot of things that aren't narco-related too much.

 

[Crepitus]

Not tired yet.

Capitalism will drive down the costs.

Trump administration to allow Americans to access lower-cost drugs from Canada

So what you're saying is that Capitalist American health care is a failure, and that socialist Canadian health care has succeeded in keeping costs for our citizens reasonable, while Americans continue to be gouged.

Thank you for admitting the inadequacies of your market forces.

Without American capitalism you wouldn’t have the drugs at all. The government is causing the high prices.

Canadian doctors Banting and Best discovered a way to produce insulin to treat diabetes.

Stem cells were discovered in Canada and that lead immediately to bone marrow transplants to treat leukaemia and cancer.

Canadian Jonas Salk discovered the polio vaccine.

Canadians also mapped the genome.

Germans have more drug research than the USA, but patents are filed in the USA because of your patent protections.

And? Have you put any thought into why it is more expensive here?

Mostly because we will pay it.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Not tired yet.

Capitalism will drive down the costs.

Trump administration to allow Americans to access lower-cost drugs from Canada

News flash! I've been buying prescription medications from Canada for a decade or more.


Not sure what he's trying to take credit for.

How? Do you know a crooked Canadian Doctor?

I know several senior's who have been purchasing from Canada. I also did a few years back on one particular drug and although I purchased from Canada it was shipped from India.

So I'm curious do they have different laws that don't require a Canadian Doctor to write the prescription for you?

Got prescription from my Dr right here in KS.

How is even legal? Doesn’t the prescribing doctor have to actually see you?

 

[task0778]

Now, this is the post of the week.

If they are indeed being made here, and I do not know that for certain, they do actually manufacture drugs in Canada as well, why are they so much cheaper there?

Let’s say they are made there. It’s a simple recipe to send to a manufacturer. Just like here. So that must not be it. Labor costs are comparable. Shipping is about the same. Packaging isn’t a big deal.

Must be something else.

Our fucked up healthcare and insurance system? Could that be it?

If you mean government intervention then yes.

By law, our government can't negotiate drug prices. Those unfairly high prices are set by pure capitalism.

How do you figure? Capitalism is all about making a good product cheap enough to sell millions of them. By law we must have worse laws than all of those other countries. Why else would a capitalist sell there? It’s not like they’re taking a loss. If it wasn’t profitable to sell in Canada they wouldn’t do it. Yet it is profitable. Maybe you should be asking why it’s profitable to sell in Canada but it is only profitable in the US at twice that price.

For those who do not know the answer to that question, it lies in the fact that Canada and every other country in the world that sells our drugs at a big discount to what we do here in the US, doesn't have to pay for the time and effort it takes to develop and test everything for years before it finally goes on the market. And that includes all the failures that occurred before the successful drug came to be. That's where all the cost is, the actual ingredients and the process to produce the drug isn't that expensive in most cases.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

How do you figure? Capitalism is all about making a good product cheap enough to sell millions of them. By law we must have worse laws than all of those other countries. Why else would a capitalist sell there? It’s not like they’re taking a loss. If it wasn’t profitable to sell in Canada they wouldn’t do it. Yet it is profitable. Maybe you should be asking why it’s profitable to sell in Canada but it is only profitable in the US at twice that price.

It would be profitable in the US at a much lower price than they have now. just not as profitable as they want.

It doesn't address "shareholder value".

Fuck shareholder value.

Well then fuck your future advancements. There won't be any.

Wrong. That excuse just doesn't make sense. It's easy enough to find out how much profit drug companies make in the US. If you can add and subtract, you can see they wouldn't be hurting too bad with a much smaller profit margin.

I think with some simple math you will find the profits here aren’t much different than anywhere else.

 

[Crepitus]

News flash! I've been buying prescription medications from Canada for a decade or more.


Not sure what he's trying to take credit for.

How? Do you know a crooked Canadian Doctor?

I know several senior's who have been purchasing from Canada. I also did a few years back on one particular drug and although I purchased from Canada it was shipped from India.

So I'm curious do they have different laws that don't require a Canadian Doctor to write the prescription for you?

Got prescription from my Dr right here in KS.

How is even legal? Doesn’t the prescribing doctor have to actually see you?

My Dr did. She's right here in town.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Let’s say they are made there. It’s a simple recipe to send to a manufacturer. Just like here. So that must not be it. Labor costs are comparable. Shipping is about the same. Packaging isn’t a big deal.

Must be something else.

Our fucked up healthcare and insurance system? Could that be it?

If you mean government intervention then yes.

By law, our government can't negotiate drug prices. Those unfairly high prices are set by pure capitalism.

How do you figure? Capitalism is all about making a good product cheap enough to sell millions of them. By law we must have worse laws than all of those other countries. Why else would a capitalist sell there? It’s not like they’re taking a loss. If it wasn’t profitable to sell in Canada they wouldn’t do it. Yet it is profitable. Maybe you should be asking why it’s profitable to sell in Canada but it is only profitable in the US at twice that price.

For those who do not know the answer to that question, it lies in the fact that Canada and every other country in the world that sells our drugs at a big discount to what we do here in the US, doesn't have to pay for the time and effort it takes to develop and test everything for years before it finally goes on the market. And that includes all the failures that occurred before the successful drug came to be. That's where all the cost is, the actual ingredients and the process to produce the drug isn't that expensive in most cases.

But they still have to buy them from the same companies that we are buying them from. Why do they get them so much cheaper?

 

[charwin95]

I thought Canada's low cost drugs were because of socialism. So it appears that the OP is claiming that the solution to high costs in capitalism is to go find socialism.

Yet another example of how Donald has turned his cult inside out.

You lefties are so retarded it's not even funny. This is a brilliant way to get Big Pharma to lower their costs. The drugs are made here, dummies.

You are missing something big there Mario.

Americans has been buying drugs from Canada and Mexico for a long time. Some are already coming from India and Asia.
So there’s nothing spectacular here. NOTHING.

And it took him more than 2 years to accomplish that? WOW. While he is so busy with his buddies Putin and Kim Jung? Give us a break.

But at least he has to do something. Rather than sending those irresponsible tweets.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Let’s say they are made there. It’s a simple recipe to send to a manufacturer. Just like here. So that must not be it. Labor costs are comparable. Shipping is about the same. Packaging isn’t a big deal.

Must be something else.

Our fucked up healthcare and insurance system? Could that be it?

If you mean government intervention then yes.

By law, our government can't negotiate drug prices. Those unfairly high prices are set by pure capitalism.

How do you figure? Capitalism is all about making a good product cheap enough to sell millions of them. By law we must have worse laws than all of those other countries. Why else would a capitalist sell there? It’s not like they’re taking a loss. If it wasn’t profitable to sell in Canada they wouldn’t do it. Yet it is profitable. Maybe you should be asking why it’s profitable to sell in Canada but it is only profitable in the US at twice that price.

For those who do not know the answer to that question, it lies in the fact that Canada and every other country in the world that sells our drugs at a big discount to what we do here in the US, doesn't have to pay for the time and effort it takes to develop and test everything for years before it finally goes on the market. And that includes all the failures that occurred before the successful drug came to be. That's where all the cost is, the actual ingredients and the process to produce the drug isn't that expensive in most cases.

While I agree that’s true it doesn’t explain the difference. Those costs would be spread out evenly. That isn’t the sole reason it costs this much. True to start for sure. But after that?