Let's talk about the oft repeated phrase "a threat to democracy" we believe trump presents.

[berg80]

But, but, but...

All citizens are equal, but some citizens are more equal than others.

So says the Court's conservative majority.

 

[Robert W]

Someone please explain to me how this doesn't threaten democracy.

A part of former President Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election involved an effort to misuse the Electoral College in seven battleground states. On Dec. 14, 2020, legitimate members of the Electoral College met across the country to sign certificates declaring which presidential candidate won their state. That day, in several states that Biden had won, Republicans met to sign certificates declaring that they were the “duly elected and qualified” members of the Electoral College and falsely declaring Trump the winner of their state. They sent their documents to the National Archives.

In the runup to Jan. 6, 2021, these false certificates were used in an effort to claim that Vice President Mike Pence could decide either not to recognize any electors from these “disputed states” (meaning an outright Trump win) or else delay the certification of the election.

These actions, and the alleged conspiracy that gave rise to them, have been the subject of multiple criminal indictments. The scheme is included among the conduct charged in the federal indictment against former President Donald Trump by the Department of Justice’s Office of Special Counsel. False electors in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, and Nevada also face criminal charges. In Wisconsin, the false electors and two attorneys who aided and abetted them settled civil litigation arising from their actions, and a criminal investigation in Wisconsin is reportedly ongoing.

Those items were done by citizens and not Trump. I believe so far none have been found guilty.

 

[Seymour Flops]

He did nothing illegal.

Complete garbage. It's the Democrat party that wants to end democracy.

Spot on.

As

Enforcing the rule of law is not retribution.

Selective prosecution is.

 

[berg80]

Case against Trump dismissed.

Dismissal appealed to the same court that has overturned Cannon twice due to errors of the law.

 

[Robert W]

Dismissal appealed to the same court that has overturned Cannon twice due to errors of the law.

Cannon got it right.

 

[berg80]

Those items were done by citizens and not Trump. I believe so far none have been found guilty.

He participated in orchestrating the scheme. Many have been indicted.

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Ten Republicans who posed as fake electors for former President Donald Trump in Wisconsin and filed paperwork falsely saying he had won the battleground state have settled a civil lawsuit and admitted their actions were part of an effort to overturn President Joe Biden’s victory, attorneys who filed the case announced Wednesday.

Under the agreement, the fake electors acknowledged that Biden won the state, withdrew their filings and agreed not to serve as presidential electors in 2024 or any other election where Trump is on the ballot.

Fake Donald Trump electors settle civil lawsuit in Wisconsin, agree that President Biden won

Ten Republicans who posed as fake electors for Donald Trump in Wisconsin and filed paperwork falsely saying he had won have settled a civil lawsuit.

apnews.com

 

[jc456]

The indictment is a recitation of the charges and the facts supporting them.

It’s not from a legal position, why it was tossed. Read up

 

[Marener]

Cannon got it right.

Probably not. The special prosecutor was upheld in US v Nixon, a 9-0 decision from the Supreme Court, and something that Cannon was required to comply with as it is binding precedent.

She's way over her skis here.

 

[berg80]

Cannon got it right.

Not according to every court before her that has heard a challenge to SC appointments.

 

[Robert W]

Someone please explain to me how this doesn't threaten democracy.

A part of former President Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election involved an effort to misuse the Electoral College in seven battleground states. On Dec. 14, 2020, legitimate members of the Electoral College met across the country to sign certificates declaring which presidential candidate won their state. That day, in several states that Biden had won, Republicans met to sign certificates declaring that they were the “duly elected and qualified” members of the Electoral College and falsely declaring Trump the winner of their state. They sent their documents to the National Archives.

In the runup to Jan. 6, 2021, these false certificates were used in an effort to claim that Vice President Mike Pence could decide either not to recognize any electors from these “disputed states” (meaning an outright Trump win) or else delay the certification of the election.

These actions, and the alleged conspiracy that gave rise to them, have been the subject of multiple criminal indictments. The scheme is included among the conduct charged in the federal indictment against former President Donald Trump by the Department of Justice’s Office of Special Counsel. False electors in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, and Nevada also face criminal charges. In Wisconsin, the false electors and two attorneys who aided and abetted them settled civil litigation arising from their actions, and a criminal investigation in Wisconsin is reportedly ongoing.

Notice the wording of the article above. By saying Trump, we are supposed to believe that those accused of the alleged crimes are Trump. But those accused are citizens of states.

 

[jc456]

Okay.

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What hangs on your walls?

 

[berg80]

It’s not from a legal position, why it was tossed. Read up

I was referring to the Jan. 6 indictment. The docs case was tossed because Cannon is in trump's back pocket.

 

[berg80]

Notice the wording of the article above. By saying Trump, we are supposed to believe that those accused of the alleged crimes are Trump. But those accused are citizens of states.

You have a reading comprehension problem.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

What hangs on your walls?

Genealogical shit with regards to my family being English colonists in 1600s North America

 

[jc456]

Enforcing the rule of law is not retribution.

Correct, so if trump did the same to xiden’s illegal acts he’s just enforcing law

 

[jc456]

I was referring to the Jan. 6 indictment. The docs case was tossed because Cannon is in trump's back pocket.

Anything from citizen jack is not legally written

 

[berg80]

Probably not. The special prosecutor was upheld in US v Nixon, a 9-0 decision from the Supreme Court, and something that Cannon was required to comply with as it is binding precedent.

She's way over her skis here.

She's willing to fall on her sword for Dear Leader. The reversal of her ruling will make strike three.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Enforcing the rule of law is not retribution.

So, if the Trump DOJ prosecutes Joe Biden based on evidence, that will not be retribution, and a threat to democracy?

 

[berg80]

Anything from citizen jack is not legally written

According to Aileen's audacious ruling.........which is being appealed.

 

[Marener]

So, if the Trump DOJ prosecutes Joe Biden based on evidence, that will not be retribution, and a threat to democracy?

Depends on the motivation of the people leading the prosecution.

If they're non-partisans who think the case is worth prosecuting, it's not retribution.

If they're partisans seeking political retribution, then it is.