Wisconsin’s Concealed Carry Law Directly Linked to Increased Gun Violence

[CrusaderFrank]

Gun goons can't even hold onto their guns. Look at how many more went right into criminal hands. Giant fail.

If only we could be more like Australia, North Korea or China where only the good guys have the guns, right?

 

[Brain357]

Right

blame Trump

blame the NRA

blame concealed carry

blame everyone but the ones actually causing the problem.

Which is NOTA.

It's not my fault the rights policies are all a failure. But the facts don't lie, and they certainly are a failure.

 

[Brain357]

If only we could be more like Australia, North Korea or China where only the good guys have the guns, right?

The UK, Germany, Denmark, Israel... really if we were smarter like pretty much every other wealthy nation. They have a homicide rate a fraction of ours. They don't arm their criminals....

 

[Auld Phart]

The UK, Germany, Denmark, Israel... really if we were smarter like pretty much every other wealthy nation. They have a homicide rate a fraction of ours. They don't arm their criminals....

They don't arm their criminals....

easy fix.

Change the 2nd amendment to prevent criminals from owning firearms.

 

[Brain357]

easy fix.

Change the 2nd amendment to prevent criminals from owning firearms.

Unfortunately, lots of legal gun ownership guarantees lots of illegal gun ownership. There is only one way to stop arming so many criminals. The 2nd is no longer needed, we have the strongest military in the world. Militias were never good for anything anyhow.

 

[Auld Phart]

Unfortunately, lots of legal gun ownership guarantees lots of illegal gun ownership. There is only one way to stop arming so many criminals. The 2nd is no longer needed, we have the strongest military in the world. Militias were never good for anything anyhow.

The 2nd is no longer needed, we have the strongest military in the world

You call yourself a brain?

a misnomer for sure.

The Second has NOTHING to do with militias.

The right to keep and bear arms was given to the People, NOT the Militia.

 

[Brain357]

You call yourself a brain?

a misnomer for sure.

The Second has NOTHING to do with militias.

The right to keep and bear arms was given to the People, NOT the Militia.

Yeah militia and the right to bear arms are in the same sentence, but has nothing to do with each other. hahaha. Funny stuff the NRA has made up.

 

[JGalt]

No surprise here for anyone with half a brain:

RELEASE: New Analysis Shows Wisconsinâs Concealed Carry Law Directly Linked to Increased Gun Violence

americanprogress.org

• Wisconsin’s gun homicide rate from 2012 to 2019 after the law was enacted was 33 percent higher than the rate from 2004 to 2011.
• The annual average of gun-related aggravated assaults from 2004 to 2011 was 1,700 but, from 2012 to 2019, increased by 56 percent to 2,600.
• Local police agencies in Milwaukee, Madison, Green Bay, Kenosha, and Racine reported a combined annual value of stolen guns of $295,000 from 2007 to 2011; this value increased by 50 percent to $443,000 from 2012 to 2019.

Not the promised decrease in crime that is for sure. More legal gun ownership guarantees more illegal gun ownership. More guns guarantees more gun violence. Look at how many more guns went directly into criminal hands. We need stronger gun laws.

Your idiotic statistics have nothing to do with concealed carry permit holders. As of 2021, there are 458,630 people who have a concealed carry permit in Wisconsin. That's almost one out of eight people who are 21 or older. And yet out of those 458,630 permit holders, only 143 people lost their permit due to a felony conviction in 2020. That's 0.03% of the concealed carry permit holders who were convicted of a felony in 2020.

https://www.doj.state.wi.us/sites/default/files/dles/ccw/2020 Annual CCW Statistical Report(1).pdf

So go fuck yourself with a snowblower.

 

[Brain357]

All the BLM and rioting are a direct result of us having too many guns. In countries with strong gun control, police very rarely shoot people. They are also very rarely shot themselves. Us having too many guns leads to law enforcement being shot and shooting too many people. This leads to riots. Pro gun policy is a huge problem in many ways.

 

[Brain357]

Your idiotic statistics have nothing to do with concealed carry permit holders. As of 2021, there are 458,630 people who have a concealed carry permit in Wisconsin. That's almost one out of eight people who are 21 or older. And yet out of those 458,630 permit holders, only 143 people lost their permit due to a felony conviction in 2020. That's 0.03% of the concealed carry permit holders who were convicted of a felony in 2020.

https://www.doj.state.wi.us/sites/default/files/dles/ccw/2020 Annual CCW Statistical Report(1).pdf

So go fuck yourself with a snowblower.

That's a pretty big number. And as you can see, the number of stolen guns went way up with this policy. Many of the carriers armed criminals. Bravo.

 

[Brain357]

Your idiotic statistics have nothing to do with concealed carry permit holders. As of 2021, there are 458,630 people who have a concealed carry permit in Wisconsin. That's almost one out of eight people who are 21 or older. And yet out of those 458,630 permit holders, only 143 people lost their permit due to a felony conviction in 2020. That's 0.03% of the concealed carry permit holders who were convicted of a felony in 2020.

https://www.doj.state.wi.us/sites/default/files/dles/ccw/2020 Annual CCW Statistical Report(1).pdf

So go fuck yourself with a snowblower.

985 licenses revoked for good reasons. You arm criminals.

 

[Brain357]

While arming lots of criminals, concealed carry laws sure don't slow crime:

• Wisconsin’s gun homicide rate from 2012 to 2019 after the law was enacted was 33 percent higher than the rate from 2004 to 2011.
• The annual average of gun-related aggravated assaults from 2004 to 2011 was 1,700 but, from 2012 to 2019, increased by 56 percent to 2,600.
• Local police agencies in Milwaukee, Madison, Green Bay, Kenosha, and Racine reported a combined annual value of stolen guns of $295,000 from 2007 to 2011; this value increased by 50 percent to $443,000 from 2012 to 2019.

It's a failed policy.

 

[Rogue AI]

Obviously you aren't looking at the date range. The results of the policy are clear, more violence. Just like our country has a homicide rate 2-3X higher than other wealthy countries. Too many guns.

No such thing as too many guns, they are simply tools. You need to solve the murder problem by solving the people problem. Blaming inanimate objects makes you look rather ignorant.

 

[JGalt]

985 licenses revoked for good reasons. You arm criminals.

377 license holders no longer a Wisconsin resident, and 191 potheads. That's the majority of lost licenses there.

So where's all this "blood in the streets"?

You're an idiot.

 

[Brain357]

No such thing as too many guns, they are simply tools. You need to solve the murder problem by solving the people problem. Blaming inanimate objects makes you look rather ignorant.

Ignorant is ignoring the increases in crime that happened with concealed carry. People with guns are a lot more dangerous than those without. They also have the crazy gun courage and are more likely to commit crimes. They are weapons that make killing quick and easy. Quick and easy makes things happen more often. Stop being so ignorant.

 

[Obiwan]

No surprise here for anyone with half a brain:

RELEASE: New Analysis Shows Wisconsinâs Concealed Carry Law Directly Linked to Increased Gun Violence

americanprogress.org

• Wisconsin’s gun homicide rate from 2012 to 2019 after the law was enacted was 33 percent higher than the rate from 2004 to 2011.
• The annual average of gun-related aggravated assaults from 2004 to 2011 was 1,700 but, from 2012 to 2019, increased by 56 percent to 2,600.
• Local police agencies in Milwaukee, Madison, Green Bay, Kenosha, and Racine reported a combined annual value of stolen guns of $295,000 from 2007 to 2011; this value increased by 50 percent to $443,000 from 2012 to 2019.

Not the promised decrease in crime that is for sure. More legal gun ownership guarantees more illegal gun ownership. More guns guarantees more gun violence. Look at how many more guns went directly into criminal hands. We need stronger gun laws.

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It tends to be entertaining when you show us how brainless you are by posting drivel that an admitted Nazi (Soros) is paying for....

But, hey, the Nazis were firm believers in gun control, since it made their genocide possible!!!!

 

[Brain357]

377 license holders no longer a Wisconsin resident, and 191 potheads. That's the majority of lost licenses there.

So where's all this "blood in the streets"?

You're an idiot.

Looks at how much homicide has increased. That's a lot of blood. Look at how many more guns were stolen from carry holders and went right to criminals. Concealed carry is a failed policy, homicide went up drastically.

 

[Brain357]

Center for American Progress - SourceWatch

www.sourcewatch.org

The Center for American Progress is classified as a 501(c)(3) organization under U.S. Internal Revenue Code. The institute receives approximately $25 million per year in funding from a variety of sources, including individuals, foundations, and corporations. From 2003 to 2007, the center received about $15 million in grants from 58 foundations. Major individual donors include George Soros, Peter Lewis, Steve Bing, and Herbert M. Sandler. The Center receives undisclosed sums from corporate donors.[5]

It tends to be entertaining when you show us how brainless you are by posting drivel that an admitted Nazi (Soros) is paying for....

But, hey, the Nazis were firm believers in gun control, since it made their genocide possible!!!!

Yet the crimes still went up in WI. The source really doesn't matter. I don't see all the countries in the world with strong gun control having a genocide. Where is the UK genocide? Oh well those countries do have a much lower homicide rate than us.

 

[JGalt]

Looks at how much homicide has increased. That's a lot of blood. Look at how many more guns were stolen from carry holders and went right to criminals. Concealed carry is a failed policy, homicide went up drastically.

So? Come and take them away from me, bitch.

 

[Rogue AI]

Ignorant is ignoring the increases in crime that happened with concealed carry. People with guns are a lot more dangerous than those without. They also have the crazy gun courage and are more likely to commit crimes. They are weapons that make killing quick and easy. Quick and easy makes things happen more often. Stop being so ignorant.

Hardly, you need to look at a little more than the inanimate objects. What else might contribute to this? Could it be moron prosecutors and judges that allow violent felons to be released from jail on low or no bail? Does the defund the police movement have anything to do with it? How about racist hate organizations like BLM rioting and looting? Does any of that contribute to the increase in crime? Or is it just inanimate objects that make you wet yourself?