With only around 500 billionaires in the country

[Indeependent]

Executive compensation is increasingly geared toward results, but some CEOs still got big paydays even when their investors didn’t do so well.

Yep, that's the beauty of contract work. Good work if you can get it. If your contract says you get X amount of money win, lose or draw, then you get that money. If a company doesn't want that in their contract, your competitor will put it in his.

Yes those ceos are practically criminals.

Well if that's the way you look at it, so are entertainers and sports figures.

Name me the last time an entertainer or sports figure dumped all of their friends who were working for them because they wanted cheaper business visas.
Corporate scum is scum.

When was the last time a CEO did?

Holy sh!t, do EVER read Financial Publications?
Whenever you read an interview with a CEO, skip to the last of the 7-8 paragraphs and that's all the bastards talk about.
CEOs spend half of their careers handing over legislation to members of Congress to increase the number of Business Visas...Americans are just unskilled, lazy, not driven, spoiled.
Same old bullsh!t.
And why the hell is Bill Gates a de facto politician since 1998?
I never voted for the f*er to have millions of Americans and business visas of other nationalities fired in favor of Indians.

 

[Brain357]

Executive compensation is increasingly geared toward results, but some CEOs still got big paydays even when their investors didn’t do so well.

Yep, that's the beauty of contract work. Good work if you can get it. If your contract says you get X amount of money win, lose or draw, then you get that money. If a company doesn't want that in their contract, your competitor will put it in his.

Yes those ceos are practically criminals.

Well if that's the way you look at it, so are entertainers and sports figures.

Name me the last time an entertainer or sports figure dumped all of their friends who were working for them because they wanted cheaper business visas.
Corporate scum is scum.

When was the last time a CEO did?

You need to open your eyes and stop playing the fool.

 

[Indeependent]

Yep, that's the beauty of contract work. Good work if you can get it. If your contract says you get X amount of money win, lose or draw, then you get that money. If a company doesn't want that in their contract, your competitor will put it in his.

Yes those ceos are practically criminals.

Well if that's the way you look at it, so are entertainers and sports figures.

Name me the last time an entertainer or sports figure dumped all of their friends who were working for them because they wanted cheaper business visas.
Corporate scum is scum.

When was the last time a CEO did?

You need to open your eyes and stop playing the fool.

Maybe he's too busy playing Tom Cruise's Mission Impossible understudy.

 

[Brain357]

Ceos are your immigration problem.

Despite the huge employment shrink, according to the myvisajobs.com website: “Hewlett-Packard filed 2668 labor condition applications for H1-B visa and 815 labor certifications for green card from fiscal year 2011 to 2014. Hewlett-Packard Company was ranked 30 among all visa sponsors.”

HP Dumps 30,000 Jobs, But Still Cranking Up H-1B Immigrants

 

[Indeependent]

Ceos are your immigration problem.

Despite the huge employment shrink, according to the myvisajobs.com website: “Hewlett-Packard filed 2668 labor condition applications for H1-B visa and 815 labor certifications for green card from fiscal year 2011 to 2014. Hewlett-Packard Company was ranked 30 among all visa sponsors.”

Hey, baby! Carly Fiorina Clones for President!

 

[Indeependent]

Ceos are your immigration problem.

Despite the huge employment shrink, according to the myvisajobs.com website: “Hewlett-Packard filed 2668 labor condition applications for H1-B visa and 815 labor certifications for green card from fiscal year 2011 to 2014. Hewlett-Packard Company was ranked 30 among all visa sponsors.”

HP Dumps 30,000 Jobs, But Still Cranking Up H-1B Immigrants

The amazing thing is how completely inept these Indian H1-Bs are.
MBAs have a severe ego need to be surrounded by "Yes, yes." men.
A sickening waste of investor money.

 

[Brain357]

Fury rises at Disney over use of foreign workers

Disney CEO Bob Iger is one of eight co-chairs of the Partnership for a New American Economy, a leading group advocating for an increase in the H-1B visa cap. Last Friday, this partnership was a sponsor of an H-1B briefing at the U.S. Capitol for congressional staffers. The briefing was closed to the press.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yep, that's the beauty of contract work. Good work if you can get it. If your contract says you get X amount of money win, lose or draw, then you get that money. If a company doesn't want that in their contract, your competitor will put it in his.

Yes those ceos are practically criminals.

Well if that's the way you look at it, so are entertainers and sports figures.

Name me the last time an entertainer or sports figure dumped all of their friends who were working for them because they wanted cheaper business visas.
Corporate scum is scum.

When was the last time a CEO did?

Holy sh!t, do EVER read Financial Publications?
Whenever you read an interview with a CEO, skip to the last of the 7-8 paragraphs and that's all the bastards talk about.
CEOs spend half of their careers handing over legislation to members of Congress to increase the number of Business Visas...Americans are just unskilled, lazy, not driven, spoiled.
Same old bullsh!t.
And why the hell is Bill Gates a de facto politician since 1998?
I never voted for the f*er to have millions of Americans and business visas of other nationalities fired in favor of Indians.

That's your government for ya. All these foreigners are the reason why wages stay stagnant; these foreigners will work for nothing and give businesses no reason to raise pay scales like they did years before.

Don't blame the devil for offering Eve the apple. Place the blame where it rightfully belongs.

 

[Brain357]

Yes those ceos are practically criminals.

Well if that's the way you look at it, so are entertainers and sports figures.

Name me the last time an entertainer or sports figure dumped all of their friends who were working for them because they wanted cheaper business visas.
Corporate scum is scum.

When was the last time a CEO did?

Holy sh!t, do EVER read Financial Publications?
Whenever you read an interview with a CEO, skip to the last of the 7-8 paragraphs and that's all the bastards talk about.
CEOs spend half of their careers handing over legislation to members of Congress to increase the number of Business Visas...Americans are just unskilled, lazy, not driven, spoiled.
Same old bullsh!t.
And why the hell is Bill Gates a de facto politician since 1998?
I never voted for the f*er to have millions of Americans and business visas of other nationalities fired in favor of Indians.

That's your government for ya. All these foreigners are the reason why wages stay stagnant; these foreigners will work for nothing and give businesses no reason to raise pay scales like they did years before.

Don't blame the devil for offering Eve the apple. Place the blame where it rightfully belongs.

Blame the ceos. The government isn't making them do anything.

 

[danielpalos]

Why are the expected to carry the weight of the other 300 million?

They aren't. The millionaires are as well. . Oh and why? Because they pay such low wages that the 300 million need welfare to get buy. Pay more in wages or pay more in taxes.

Robin Hood never worked

Socialism works and we have the "richest poor" in the world, to prove it.

Yeah, it's the socialism causing that (which doesn't explain why countries that are even more socialist DON'T have richer poor).

simple; bad management.

 

[danielpalos]

Yeah, and in case it hasn't occurred to you, WE don't live in those countries precisely because WE would not be happy. If socialism is your cup of tea, go live somewhere socialist. Stop trying to force it on people who don't want it and telling them how "happy" it's going to make them.

Human beings aren't a "one size fits all" scenario. We're not an anthill or a beehive or the Borg Collective. What the hell is it about being an individual that scares you so?

We have socialism here.

Yes we do, and what's happening with that socialism?

Most all of our programs are going broke. We are 18 trillion in the hole and quickly approaching 19 trillion. Half of the people depend partly or entirely on the support of governments.

Back in the 60's and 70's we had communes. Communes were entirely socialist. Some went out to get supplies and necessities for the rest in the commune and others stayed in the commune having babies, smoking pot and watching television if they had one.

After a while, the people supporting the commune grew sick of taking care of everybody else. That's why communes disappeared.

Socialsim has a short fuse. Sure, it may work for a while. It may work 30 years, 60 years, even 100 years. But eventually, it will collapse much like our social programs are.

It has never worked for periods of even 10 years.

You can't be serious.

Please name a 10 year period when complete socialism "worked."

Please name a 10 year period when complete capitalism "worked.".

 

[danielpalos]

Sadly anyone poor enough to not pay income taxes is very poor.

So you're saying that 47% of our population are very poor?

In income yes. You have to make very little to not pay income taxes. Many are retired.

No, many middle-class people pay no actual income tax. Other taxes? Yes they do, we all do, but not income tax.

I paid the feds over $60,000 last year. That's enough to support 3 families on welfare.

Not today. They do way better than that because they are on more than just welfare.

When you consider free healthcare, a home in the suburbs, SNAP's, welfare, utility assistance and so on, many of these people do better than working Americans.

"If you pay people not to work, don't be too surprised when they don't."
Rush Limbaugh

yes, dears; only fools and horses should have to work in any at-will employment State.

 

[danielpalos]

They could afford to pay enough employees aren't on welfare. Now that would help the economy.

Do you know what else would help the economy? If people took the initiative to make themselves worth more money by learning a trade or getting some sort of skill set. Stocking shelves, moping floors and cleaning toilets are not skill sets. A monkey can do those jobs.

I have a couple I rent an apartment to. Good people and they have been here a couple of years. They are late with rent all the time but I know I'll always get it.

Both work fast food jobs and they work all kinds of goofy hours. So why don't they try to get better jobs? Because they smoke pot, and better jobs usually have drug screenings.

They are in their mid 20's now and wasting their lives simply because partying is more important than setting a path of financial success in life. I don't care because it's their choice. But why should an employer pay them more money simply because of the lifestyle they chose? If they want to do better financially, then they need to quit smoking grass, look for better jobs, and become more productive in life. It's up to them to better themselves financially, not their fast food manager.

The jobs aren't there. If they were wages wouldn't be stagnant.

The jobs are there, it's just that Americans don't want them. They want to stay home on their Obama phones.

Right now in my industry alone, they predict we are going to need 48,000 more workers that employers can't find by the end of this year. That's why employers are turning to foreigners to do the work.

After you get a year or two of experience, you call the shots. You choose where and when you want to work. The job pays pretty well depending on who you work for.

ATA: ‘Driver Shortage’ Likely To Reach 48,000 By The End of The Year

Again if the jobs were there wages would go up. Wages are stagnant.

You can thank the millions of cheap laborers for third world countries the Democrats have imported for that.

don't like, Capitalism? whiners.

 

[danielpalos]

You mean communism. Communism doesn't work, but the USSR lasted longer than 10 years.

So pure socialism is communism? And capitalism is socialism?

You guys don't know the difference between shit and Shinola, do you?

You make very little sense so it's hard to guess just what you mean.

So you can't provide an example where socialism has worked for 10 years?

I already did. I'm not suggesting full socialism is a great idea. I provided an example of what works.

You provided an example of capitalism, but you called it "socialism."

Thanks for admitting that socialism doesn't work.

dear, our form of socialism has been working for over two hundred years.

 

[danielpalos]

I already did. I'm not suggesting full socialism is a great idea. I provided an example of what works.

You provided an example of capitalism, but you called it "socialism."

Thanks for admitting that socialism doesn't work.

Where is your example of capitalism working?

It has worked every time it has been tried.

Who has capitalism without socialism?

The less socialism we had, the better we did.

sure; until 1929. 1984 really was just (social) fiction until the Right's, War on Terror.

 

[bripat9643]

We have socialism here.

Yes we do, and what's happening with that socialism?

Most all of our programs are going broke. We are 18 trillion in the hole and quickly approaching 19 trillion. Half of the people depend partly or entirely on the support of governments.

Back in the 60's and 70's we had communes. Communes were entirely socialist. Some went out to get supplies and necessities for the rest in the commune and others stayed in the commune having babies, smoking pot and watching television if they had one.

After a while, the people supporting the commune grew sick of taking care of everybody else. That's why communes disappeared.

Socialsim has a short fuse. Sure, it may work for a while. It may work 30 years, 60 years, even 100 years. But eventually, it will collapse much like our social programs are.

It has never worked for periods of even 10 years.

You can't be serious.

Please name a 10 year period when complete socialism "worked."

Please name a 10 year period when complete capitalism "worked.".

1789 - 1914

 

[bripat9643]

So pure socialism is communism? And capitalism is socialism?

You guys don't know the difference between shit and Shinola, do you?

You make very little sense so it's hard to guess just what you mean.

So you can't provide an example where socialism has worked for 10 years?

I already did. I'm not suggesting full socialism is a great idea. I provided an example of what works.

You provided an example of capitalism, but you called it "socialism."

Thanks for admitting that socialism doesn't work.

dear, our form of socialism has been working for over two hundred years.

We haven't had "our form of socialism" for 200 years.

 

[bripat9643]

Do you know what else would help the economy? If people took the initiative to make themselves worth more money by learning a trade or getting some sort of skill set. Stocking shelves, moping floors and cleaning toilets are not skill sets. A monkey can do those jobs.

I have a couple I rent an apartment to. Good people and they have been here a couple of years. They are late with rent all the time but I know I'll always get it.

Both work fast food jobs and they work all kinds of goofy hours. So why don't they try to get better jobs? Because they smoke pot, and better jobs usually have drug screenings.

They are in their mid 20's now and wasting their lives simply because partying is more important than setting a path of financial success in life. I don't care because it's their choice. But why should an employer pay them more money simply because of the lifestyle they chose? If they want to do better financially, then they need to quit smoking grass, look for better jobs, and become more productive in life. It's up to them to better themselves financially, not their fast food manager.

The jobs aren't there. If they were wages wouldn't be stagnant.

The jobs are there, it's just that Americans don't want them. They want to stay home on their Obama phones.

Right now in my industry alone, they predict we are going to need 48,000 more workers that employers can't find by the end of this year. That's why employers are turning to foreigners to do the work.

After you get a year or two of experience, you call the shots. You choose where and when you want to work. The job pays pretty well depending on who you work for.

ATA: ‘Driver Shortage’ Likely To Reach 48,000 By The End of The Year

Again if the jobs were there wages would go up. Wages are stagnant.

You can thank the millions of cheap laborers for third world countries the Democrats have imported for that.

don't like, Capitalism? whiners.

That's not capitalism. That's Democrats trying to destroy this country. Nothing about capitalism says a country has to have open borders.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Well if that's the way you look at it, so are entertainers and sports figures.

Name me the last time an entertainer or sports figure dumped all of their friends who were working for them because they wanted cheaper business visas.
Corporate scum is scum.

When was the last time a CEO did?

Holy sh!t, do EVER read Financial Publications?
Whenever you read an interview with a CEO, skip to the last of the 7-8 paragraphs and that's all the bastards talk about.
CEOs spend half of their careers handing over legislation to members of Congress to increase the number of Business Visas...Americans are just unskilled, lazy, not driven, spoiled.
Same old bullsh!t.
And why the hell is Bill Gates a de facto politician since 1998?
I never voted for the f*er to have millions of Americans and business visas of other nationalities fired in favor of Indians.

That's your government for ya. All these foreigners are the reason why wages stay stagnant; these foreigners will work for nothing and give businesses no reason to raise pay scales like they did years before.

Don't blame the devil for offering Eve the apple. Place the blame where it rightfully belongs.

Blame the ceos. The government isn't making them do anything.

Oh yes they are. CEO"s must try to maximize profits whenever reasonably possible. That's their job.

However it's not the job of government to provide them with ways to do that.

 

[Indeependent]

Name me the last time an entertainer or sports figure dumped all of their friends who were working for them because they wanted cheaper business visas.
Corporate scum is scum.

When was the last time a CEO did?

Holy sh!t, do EVER read Financial Publications?
Whenever you read an interview with a CEO, skip to the last of the 7-8 paragraphs and that's all the bastards talk about.
CEOs spend half of their careers handing over legislation to members of Congress to increase the number of Business Visas...Americans are just unskilled, lazy, not driven, spoiled.
Same old bullsh!t.
And why the hell is Bill Gates a de facto politician since 1998?
I never voted for the f*er to have millions of Americans and business visas of other nationalities fired in favor of Indians.

That's your government for ya. All these foreigners are the reason why wages stay stagnant; these foreigners will work for nothing and give businesses no reason to raise pay scales like they did years before.

Don't blame the devil for offering Eve the apple. Place the blame where it rightfully belongs.

Blame the ceos. The government isn't making them do anything.

However it's not the job of government to provide them [CEOs] with ways to do that.

Well, we agree on that.