Without Quotas.. what elite admissions actually look like

[Unkotare]

Want to see what a Bias Free, Quota Free, Top school, admission profile looks like?
First, a focus on arguably the Best college in the country.. and why.
The graph/numbers still above.
This is one of the Only top colleges without a Racial admissions policy. One that's Asian student body keeps climbing along with the number of advanced Asian students, unlike the Bigoted Ivy League schools who've All put/Capped/Quota-ed Asians at app ±16%.

Why Caltech Is in a Class by Itself | Minding The Campus
By Russell K. Nieli - Dec 9, 2010
[....]

Toward a Pure Meritocracy

Of the top two dozen or so elite universities in America only one has managed both to avoid the craziness of the post-60s intellectual fads, and to establish something pretty close to a pure meritocracy - California Institute of Technology, which has not received the general recognition among academics that it clearly deserves.

The stats on Caltech's students and faculty are simply spellbinding. An entering Caltech freshman last year who received a 770 on the math SAT would be exceeded in this area by 3/4 of his fellow entering freshmen. Many Caltech freshmen got a perfect 800 on their math SAT, while a near-perfect 1560 combination score placed an incoming freshmen at only the 75th percentile of his..classmates..

What this means is that at Caltech, there are no dumb jocks, dumb legacies, or dumb Affirmative Action students... Perhaps the most striking difference from all other elite universities - including institutions like MIT and the University of Chicago which forgo athletic recruitment - is Caltech's complete Indifference to Racial balancing.
In a state and a region of the country with the largest Hispanic population, Caltech's entering freshmen class in 2008 was less than 6% Hispanic (13 out of 236). The unwillingness to lower standards for a larger Black representation is even more striking - less than 1% (2/236) of Caltech's 2008 entering freshmen were listed as "non-Hispanic black".
This "Underrepresentation" of Blacks and Hispanics, of course, was more than made up for by the Huge "Overrepresentation" of Asians. Only 4% of the U.S. population, Asians made up a whopping 40% of the incoming freshmen class in 2008, a slightly larger proportion than the 39% figure for whites....
[.....]
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That's what happens without Quotas/"Holistic" admissions/Racial balancing. (tho they DO seek minorities; just don't bend admissions/lower standards)
Asians, only 4% of the population are 40% of the meritocratic student body. Higher than the percentage for the much larger population group, whites.
`
Yet at Harvard, the last class admission was 14.7% Black, exactly 2% more than their population percentage!
`

College Is for Coolies

Not a meritocracy until the motivation of paying students is in effect. By mandating indentured servitude instead, hypocritical Capitalists violate their own principles of incentive. They'll preach, "If you want McDonald's workers to become truck drivers, pay them a higher starting salary as truck drivers," but they'll never follow through on that by saying, "If you want the smartest students to study for college, pay them a higher student salary there than they can expect anywhere else at that age." This is because they want to keep own kids' advantage of living off an allowance that meets that requirement. Otherwise they'd drop out or refuse to go at all, like real Americans do.

David Koch went to MIT, which is similar to CalTech. But he lived off a high allowance there, which is the most important factor in that achievement of his. Just like Daddy bought him his politics, Daddy bought him his education.

Here we go again...

Even the cheap toys where you pull a string on the action figure’s back have more than just ONE phrase to repeat over and over

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[Unkotare]

.... Asians may see that as an "Asian" college and hence many Asians want to apply there .....

Ignorant guess

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Getting into prestigious universities is simply not the goal of most African American students. Asian parents and many white parents define themselves and their success by acceptance to elite Universities, while many black parents do not. Many black parents, especially those who graduated from HBCUs, want their kids to go to HBCUs like Howard, Morehouse, Spellman, etc. Blacks simply do not value attending such elite universities to the degree that Asians and Whites define themselves by such.

You all seem to be making a big deal about the low percentage of blacks....

Your usual BS!
Of course Blacks want to get into Good Colleges... AND. Good High Schools I named in 2 of my 3 posts.
You're a G-D Liar.
They and their few parents absolutely DO.

Apparently they also don't care care about doing more poorly on tests for 50 years country-wide/worldwide either.
LOFL.

And it would be less of an issue if they weren't Stealing deservant admission positions of others.
`

Funny how you aren't complaining about athletes and wealthy legacies stealing 'deservant'(sic) admission positions of others.

Just race......

Slavery of the Best Ruins Them

And, of course, no submissive-serf American complains that college attracts those who want to continue to live like dependent and continually broke teenagers because they are afraid to grow up.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Want to see what a Bias Free, Quota Free, Top school, admission profile looks like?
First, a focus on arguably the Best college in the country.. and why.
The graph/numbers still above.
This is one of the Only top colleges without a Racial admissions policy. One that's Asian student body keeps climbing along with the number of advanced Asian students, unlike the Bigoted Ivy League schools who've All put/Capped/Quota-ed Asians at app ±16%.

Why Caltech Is in a Class by Itself | Minding The Campus
By Russell K. Nieli - Dec 9, 2010
[....]

Toward a Pure Meritocracy

Of the top two dozen or so elite universities in America only one has managed both to avoid the craziness of the post-60s intellectual fads, and to establish something pretty close to a pure meritocracy - California Institute of Technology, which has not received the general recognition among academics that it clearly deserves.

The stats on Caltech's students and faculty are simply spellbinding. An entering Caltech freshman last year who received a 770 on the math SAT would be exceeded in this area by 3/4 of his fellow entering freshmen. Many Caltech freshmen got a perfect 800 on their math SAT, while a near-perfect 1560 combination score placed an incoming freshmen at only the 75th percentile of his..classmates..

What this means is that at Caltech, there are no dumb jocks, dumb legacies, or dumb Affirmative Action students... Perhaps the most striking difference from all other elite universities - including institutions like MIT and the University of Chicago which forgo athletic recruitment - is Caltech's complete Indifference to Racial balancing.
In a state and a region of the country with the largest Hispanic population, Caltech's entering freshmen class in 2008 was less than 6% Hispanic (13 out of 236). The unwillingness to lower standards for a larger Black representation is even more striking - less than 1% (2/236) of Caltech's 2008 entering freshmen were listed as "non-Hispanic black".
This "Underrepresentation" of Blacks and Hispanics, of course, was more than made up for by the Huge "Overrepresentation" of Asians. Only 4% of the U.S. population, Asians made up a whopping 40% of the incoming freshmen class in 2008, a slightly larger proportion than the 39% figure for whites....
[.....]
​

That's what happens without Quotas/"Holistic" admissions/Racial balancing. (tho they DO seek minorities; just don't bend admissions/lower standards)
Asians, only 4% of the population are 40% of the meritocratic student body. Higher than the percentage for the much larger population group, whites.
`
Yet at Harvard, the last class admission was 14.7% Black, exactly 2% more than their population percentage!
`

So you want to go back to the days where quotas were 100 percent white and merit did not apply. Cal Tech is no elite college and it only has 2,100 students. But it's the one you could find that validates your psychosis.

Cal Tech is not elite? Did you read those sat scores? lol!!

Cal Tech is not elite.

Comicbookologists

It selects the smartest wimpy escapist nerds, who dedicate themselves to the most intricate superhero fantasies.

 

[Paul Essien]

The myth of dumb black people getting spots we did not deserve again ?

There have been people who have tried (And failed) to be prove that this is true

Let me introduce Vijay Chokalingam......

Let me give you the overall numbers, not a Dishonest/Stupid ANECDOTE.

Statistics Indicate an Ivy League Asian Quota
Statistics Indicate an Ivy League Asian Quota - NYTimes.com
Ron Unz is a software developer and publisher of The American Conservative, where he elaborated on these thoughts in a recent article . He is a graduate of Harvard University.
MAY 9, 2013​

and ie,

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/04/some-asian-students-dont-_n_1128037.html

"..."I didn't want to put `Asian' down," Olmstead says, "because my mom told me there's discrimination against Asians in the application process."
For years, many Asian-Americans have been convinced that it's harder for them to gain admission to the nation's top colleges.
[......]
Now, an unknown number of students are responding to this concern by declining to identify themselves as Asian on their applications.

For those with only one Asian parent, whose names don't give away their heritage, that decision can be relatively easy. Harder are the questions that it raises: What's behind the admissions difficulties? What, exactly, is an Asian-American – and is being one a choice?

Olmstead is a freshman at Harvard and a member of HAPA, the Half-Asian People's Association. In high school she had a perfect 4.0 grade-point average and scored 2150 out of a possible 2400 on the SAT, which she calls "pretty low."

College applications ask for parent information, so Olmstead knows that admissions officers could figure out a student's background that way. She did write in the word "multiracial" on her own application.

Still, she would advise students with one Asian parent to "check whatever race is not Asian."

"Not to really generalize, but a lot of Asians, they have Perfect SATs, perfect GPAs, ... so it's hard to let them all in," Olmstead says.

Amalia Halikias is a Yale freshman whose mother was born in America to Chinese immigrants; her father is a Greek immigrant. She also checked only the "white" box on her application.

"As someone who was applying with relatively strong scores, I didn't want to be grouped into that stereotype," Halikias says. "I didn't want to be written off as one of the 1.4 billion Asians that were applying."
[.......]
"...Studies show that Asian-Americans meet these colleges' admissions standards far Out of Proportion to their 6% representation in the U.S. population, and that they often need test scores hundreds of points higher than applicants from other ethnic groups to have an equal chance of admission. Critics say these numbers, along with the fact that some
top colleges with race-blind admissions have Double the Asian percentage of Ivy League schools, prove the existence of discrimination.
[......]
"...Asian students have higher average SAT scores than any other group, including whites.
***A study by Princeton sociologist Thomas Espenshade examined applicants to top colleges from 1997, when the maximum SAT score was 1600 (today it's 2400).
Espenshade found that Asian-Americans needed a 1550 SAT to have an equal chance of getting into an elite college as White students with a 1410 or Black students with an 1100.

Top schools that don't ask about race in admissions process have very high percentages of Asian students. The California Institute of Technology, a private school that chooses Not to consider race, is about one-third Asian. (13% of California residents have Asian heritage.) The University of California-Berkeley, which is forbidden by state law to consider race in admissions, is more than 40% Asian – up from about 20% before the law was passed......​

Asians students are roughly 3x over-represented at Ivy League schools and it would be 4x or 5x or maybe 6x without quotas.
`

Use your own words dude. Don't cut and paste some nonsense from some site or newspapers that reflects your POV and think that it's gonna fly with me.

Respond to what I say. That's how you debate

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Want to see what a Bias Free, Quota Free, Top school, admission profile looks like?
First, a focus on arguably the Best college in the country.. and why.
The graph/numbers still above.
This is one of the Only top colleges without a Racial admissions policy. One that's Asian student body keeps climbing along with the number of advanced Asian students, unlike the Bigoted Ivy League schools who've All put/Capped/Quota-ed Asians at app ±16%.

Why Caltech Is in a Class by Itself | Minding The Campus
By Russell K. Nieli - Dec 9, 2010
[....]

Toward a Pure Meritocracy

Of the top two dozen or so elite universities in America only one has managed both to avoid the craziness of the post-60s intellectual fads, and to establish something pretty close to a pure meritocracy - California Institute of Technology, which has not received the general recognition among academics that it clearly deserves.

The stats on Caltech's students and faculty are simply spellbinding. An entering Caltech freshman last year who received a 770 on the math SAT would be exceeded in this area by 3/4 of his fellow entering freshmen. Many Caltech freshmen got a perfect 800 on their math SAT, while a near-perfect 1560 combination score placed an incoming freshmen at only the 75th percentile of his..classmates..

What this means is that at Caltech, there are no dumb jocks, dumb legacies, or dumb Affirmative Action students... Perhaps the most striking difference from all other elite universities - including institutions like MIT and the University of Chicago which forgo athletic recruitment - is Caltech's complete Indifference to Racial balancing.
In a state and a region of the country with the largest Hispanic population, Caltech's entering freshmen class in 2008 was less than 6% Hispanic (13 out of 236). The unwillingness to lower standards for a larger Black representation is even more striking - less than 1% (2/236) of Caltech's 2008 entering freshmen were listed as "non-Hispanic black".
This "Underrepresentation" of Blacks and Hispanics, of course, was more than made up for by the Huge "Overrepresentation" of Asians. Only 4% of the U.S. population, Asians made up a whopping 40% of the incoming freshmen class in 2008, a slightly larger proportion than the 39% figure for whites....
[.....]
​

That's what happens without Quotas/"Holistic" admissions/Racial balancing. (tho they DO seek minorities; just don't bend admissions/lower standards)
Asians, only 4% of the population are 40% of the meritocratic student body. Higher than the percentage for the much larger population group, whites.
`
Yet at Harvard, the last class admission was 14.7% Black, exactly 2% more than their population percentage!
`

College Is for Coolies

Not a meritocracy until the motivation of paying students is in effect. By mandating indentured servitude instead, hypocritical Capitalists violate their own principles of incentive. They'll preach, "If you want McDonald's workers to become truck drivers, pay them a higher starting salary as truck drivers," but they'll never follow through on that by saying, "If you want the smartest students to study for college, pay them a higher student salary there than they can expect anywhere else at that age." This is because they want to keep own kids' advantage of living off an allowance that meets that requirement. Otherwise they'd drop out or refuse to go at all, like real Americans do.

David Koch went to MIT, which is similar to CalTech. But he lived off a high allowance there, which is the most important factor in that achievement of his. Just like Daddy bought him his politics, Daddy bought him his education.

Here we go again...

Even the cheap toys where you pull a string on the action figure’s back have more than just ONE phrase to repeat over and over

Bootlicking Job Thieves

As if I can't say the same about you little boys sucking your thumbs in college, voluntarily living in student poverty because you're afraid to grow up. Your sole mantra, "To Get a Good Job, Get a Good Education," says nothing about doing a good job, so what good does elevating you Diploma Dumbo brownnoses do for the country?

 

[abu afak]

Use your own words dude. Don't cut and paste some nonsense from some site or newspapers that reflects your POV and think that it's gonna fly with me.

Respond to what I say. That's how you debate

No. it's youj who doesn't know how to debate Essien.
one DOES debate using citations to prove his point.
I'm not interested in just exchanging opinions with a 70 IQ sub-Saharan.

That said, let me make it easy for you.
Blacks are less smart, and of course, score less well worldwide on tests (IQ/SAT/etc), yet get a Huge break on College admissions.

That's the theme here shown by both common sense AND citation, Untouched by your goofy YO-pinions.
`

 

[Unkotare]

Want to see what a Bias Free, Quota Free, Top school, admission profile looks like?
First, a focus on arguably the Best college in the country.. and why.
The graph/numbers still above.
This is one of the Only top colleges without a Racial admissions policy. One that's Asian student body keeps climbing along with the number of advanced Asian students, unlike the Bigoted Ivy League schools who've All put/Capped/Quota-ed Asians at app ±16%.

Why Caltech Is in a Class by Itself | Minding The Campus
By Russell K. Nieli - Dec 9, 2010
[....]

Toward a Pure Meritocracy

Of the top two dozen or so elite universities in America only one has managed both to avoid the craziness of the post-60s intellectual fads, and to establish something pretty close to a pure meritocracy - California Institute of Technology, which has not received the general recognition among academics that it clearly deserves.

The stats on Caltech's students and faculty are simply spellbinding. An entering Caltech freshman last year who received a 770 on the math SAT would be exceeded in this area by 3/4 of his fellow entering freshmen. Many Caltech freshmen got a perfect 800 on their math SAT, while a near-perfect 1560 combination score placed an incoming freshmen at only the 75th percentile of his..classmates..

What this means is that at Caltech, there are no dumb jocks, dumb legacies, or dumb Affirmative Action students... Perhaps the most striking difference from all other elite universities - including institutions like MIT and the University of Chicago which forgo athletic recruitment - is Caltech's complete Indifference to Racial balancing.
In a state and a region of the country with the largest Hispanic population, Caltech's entering freshmen class in 2008 was less than 6% Hispanic (13 out of 236). The unwillingness to lower standards for a larger Black representation is even more striking - less than 1% (2/236) of Caltech's 2008 entering freshmen were listed as "non-Hispanic black".
This "Underrepresentation" of Blacks and Hispanics, of course, was more than made up for by the Huge "Overrepresentation" of Asians. Only 4% of the U.S. population, Asians made up a whopping 40% of the incoming freshmen class in 2008, a slightly larger proportion than the 39% figure for whites....
[.....]
​

That's what happens without Quotas/"Holistic" admissions/Racial balancing. (tho they DO seek minorities; just don't bend admissions/lower standards)
Asians, only 4% of the population are 40% of the meritocratic student body. Higher than the percentage for the much larger population group, whites.
`
Yet at Harvard, the last class admission was 14.7% Black, exactly 2% more than their population percentage!
`

College Is for Coolies

Not a meritocracy until the motivation of paying students is in effect. By mandating indentured servitude instead, hypocritical Capitalists violate their own principles of incentive. They'll preach, "If you want McDonald's workers to become truck drivers, pay them a higher starting salary as truck drivers," but they'll never follow through on that by saying, "If you want the smartest students to study for college, pay them a higher student salary there than they can expect anywhere else at that age." This is because they want to keep own kids' advantage of living off an allowance that meets that requirement. Otherwise they'd drop out or refuse to go at all, like real Americans do.

David Koch went to MIT, which is similar to CalTech. But he lived off a high allowance there, which is the most important factor in that achievement of his. Just like Daddy bought him his politics, Daddy bought him his education.

Here we go again...

Even the cheap toys where you pull a string on the action figure’s back have more than just ONE phrase to repeat over and over

Bootlicking Job Thieves

As if I can't say the same about you little boys sucking your thumbs in college, voluntarily living in student poverty because you're afraid to grow up. Your sole mantra, "To Get a Good Job, Get a Good Education," says nothing about doing a good job, so what good does elevating you Diploma Dumbo brownnoses do for the country?

SPAMBOT #5769428956b, return to factory for re-recording of sole message.

 

[Unkotare]

Getting into prestigious universities is simply not the goal of most African American students. Asian parents and many white parents define themselves and their success by acceptance to elite Universities, while many black parents do not. Many black parents, especially those who graduated from HBCUs, want their kids to go to HBCUs like Howard, Morehouse, Spellman, etc. Blacks simply do not value attending such elite universities to the degree that Asians and Whites define themselves by such.

You all seem to be making a big deal about the low percentage of blacks....

Your usual BS!
Of course Blacks want to get into Good Colleges... AND. Good High Schools I named in 2 of my 3 posts.
You're a G-D Liar.
They and their few parents absolutely DO.

Apparently they also don't care care about doing more poorly on tests for 50 years country-wide/worldwide either.
LOFL.

And it would be less of an issue if they weren't Stealing deservant admission positions of others.
`

Funny how you aren't complaining about athletes and wealthy legacies stealing 'deservant'(sic) admission positions of others.

Just race......

Slavery of the Best Ruins Them

And, of course, no submissive-serf American complains that college attracts those who want to continue to live like dependent and continually broke teenagers because they are afraid to grow up.

Holy crap, I hadn't heard of a fatal case of inferiority complex until now.


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[impuretrash]

The myth of dumb black people getting spots we did not deserve again ?

There have been people who have tried (And failed) to be prove that this is true

Let me introduce Vijay Chokalingam......

Let me give you the overall numbers, not a Dishonest/Stupid ANECDOTE.

Statistics Indicate an Ivy League Asian Quota
Statistics Indicate an Ivy League Asian Quota - NYTimes.com
Ron Unz is a software developer and publisher of The American Conservative, where he elaborated on these thoughts in a recent article . He is a graduate of Harvard University.
MAY 9, 2013​

and ie,

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/04/some-asian-students-dont-_n_1128037.html

"..."I didn't want to put `Asian' down," Olmstead says, "because my mom told me there's discrimination against Asians in the application process."
For years, many Asian-Americans have been convinced that it's harder for them to gain admission to the nation's top colleges.
[......]
Now, an unknown number of students are responding to this concern by declining to identify themselves as Asian on their applications.

For those with only one Asian parent, whose names don't give away their heritage, that decision can be relatively easy. Harder are the questions that it raises: What's behind the admissions difficulties? What, exactly, is an Asian-American – and is being one a choice?

Olmstead is a freshman at Harvard and a member of HAPA, the Half-Asian People's Association. In high school she had a perfect 4.0 grade-point average and scored 2150 out of a possible 2400 on the SAT, which she calls "pretty low."

College applications ask for parent information, so Olmstead knows that admissions officers could figure out a student's background that way. She did write in the word "multiracial" on her own application.

Still, she would advise students with one Asian parent to "check whatever race is not Asian."

"Not to really generalize, but a lot of Asians, they have Perfect SATs, perfect GPAs, ... so it's hard to let them all in," Olmstead says.

Amalia Halikias is a Yale freshman whose mother was born in America to Chinese immigrants; her father is a Greek immigrant. She also checked only the "white" box on her application.

"As someone who was applying with relatively strong scores, I didn't want to be grouped into that stereotype," Halikias says. "I didn't want to be written off as one of the 1.4 billion Asians that were applying."
[.......]
"...Studies show that Asian-Americans meet these colleges' admissions standards far Out of Proportion to their 6% representation in the U.S. population, and that they often need test scores hundreds of points higher than applicants from other ethnic groups to have an equal chance of admission. Critics say these numbers, along with the fact that some
top colleges with race-blind admissions have Double the Asian percentage of Ivy League schools, prove the existence of discrimination.
[......]
"...Asian students have higher average SAT scores than any other group, including whites.
***A study by Princeton sociologist Thomas Espenshade examined applicants to top colleges from 1997, when the maximum SAT score was 1600 (today it's 2400).
Espenshade found that Asian-Americans needed a 1550 SAT to have an equal chance of getting into an elite college as White students with a 1410 or Black students with an 1100.

Top schools that don't ask about race in admissions process have very high percentages of Asian students. The California Institute of Technology, a private school that chooses Not to consider race, is about one-third Asian. (13% of California residents have Asian heritage.) The University of California-Berkeley, which is forbidden by state law to consider race in admissions, is more than 40% Asian – up from about 20% before the law was passed......​

Asians students are roughly 3x over-represented at Ivy League schools and it would be 4x or 5x or maybe 6x without quotas.
`

Use your own words dude. Don't cut and paste some nonsense from some site or newspapers that reflects your POV and think that it's gonna fly with me.

Respond to what I say. That's how you debate

Thats mighty hypocritical coming from you, the king of copy/paste debating.

 

[Paul Essien]

Use your own words dude. Don't cut and paste some nonsense from some site or newspapers that reflects your POV and think that it's gonna fly with me.

Respond to what I say. That's how you debate

No. it's youj who doesn't know how to debate Essien.
one DOES debate using citations to prove his point.
I'm not interested in just exchanging opinions with a 70 IQ sub-Saharan.

That said, let me make it easy for you.
Blacks are less smart, and of course, score less well worldwide on tests (IQ/SAT/etc), yet get a Huge break on College admissions.

That's the theme here shown by both common sense AND citation, Untouched by your goofy YO-pinions.
`

Call me intellectually inferior all day. I don't give a crap about that.

All I want to know from guys like you who are always running around trying to prove how stupid we blk people supposedly are is

What do you do with a race of people you claim are (On av) stupid ?

Let's get to the doing part. Not the assessment part. You saying I'm dumb and I have an IQ lower than a snakes belly. I'm saying "Yes. You are right" Now what ? I've made my move. What yours ?

Because that's one thing I've noticed with all these guys who write the bell curve and debate about how stupid black people are.

They never talk about what should done.

 

[impuretrash]

Use your own words dude. Don't cut and paste some nonsense from some site or newspapers that reflects your POV and think that it's gonna fly with me.

Respond to what I say. That's how you debate

No. it's youj who doesn't know how to debate Essien.
one DOES debate using citations to prove his point.
I'm not interested in just exchanging opinions with a 70 IQ sub-Saharan.

That said, let me make it easy for you.
Blacks are less smart, and of course, score less well worldwide on tests (IQ/SAT/etc), yet get a Huge break on College admissions.

That's the theme here shown by both common sense AND citation, Untouched by your goofy YO-pinions.
`

Call me intellectually inferior all day. I don't give a crap about that.

All I want to know from guys like you who are always running around trying to prove how stupid we blk people supposedly are is

What do you do with a race of people you claim are (On av) stupid ?

Let's get to the doing part. Not the assessment part. You saying I'm dumb and I have an IQ lower than a snakes belly. I'm saying "Yes. You are right" Now what ? I've made my move. What yours ?

Copy/paste king strikes again!

https://www.quora.com/What-would-be-some-of-the-ways-to-close-or-lessen-racial-iq-gaps

 

[IM2]

Use your own words dude. Don't cut and paste some nonsense from some site or newspapers that reflects your POV and think that it's gonna fly with me.

Respond to what I say. That's how you debate

No. it's youj who doesn't know how to debate Essien.
one DOES debate using citations to prove his point.
I'm not interested in just exchanging opinions with a 70 IQ sub-Saharan.

That said, let me make it easy for you.
Blacks are less smart, and of course, score less well worldwide on tests (IQ/SAT/etc), yet get a Huge break on College admissions.

That's the theme here shown by both common sense AND citation, Untouched by your goofy YO-pinions.
`

Call me intellectually inferior all day. I don't give a crap about that.

All I want to know from guys like you who are always running around trying to prove how stupid we blk people supposedly are is

What do you do with a race of people you claim are (On av) stupid ?

Let's get to the doing part. Not the assessment part. You saying I'm dumb and I have an IQ lower than a snakes belly. I'm saying "Yes. You are right" Now what ? I've made my move. What yours ?

Because that's one thing I've noticed with all these guys who write the bell curve and debate about how stupid black people are.

They never talk about what should done.

They can't because they know they argue a bunch of discredited garbage.

 

[IM2]

Use your own words dude. Don't cut and paste some nonsense from some site or newspapers that reflects your POV and think that it's gonna fly with me.

Respond to what I say. That's how you debate

No. it's youj who doesn't know how to debate Essien.
one DOES debate using citations to prove his point.
I'm not interested in just exchanging opinions with a 70 IQ sub-Saharan.

That said, let me make it easy for you.
Blacks are less smart, and of course, score less well worldwide on tests (IQ/SAT/etc), yet get a Huge break on College admissions.

That's the theme here shown by both common sense AND citation, Untouched by your goofy YO-pinions.
`

Call me intellectually inferior all day. I don't give a crap about that.

All I want to know from guys like you who are always running around trying to prove how stupid we blk people supposedly are is

What do you do with a race of people you claim are (On av) stupid ?

Let's get to the doing part. Not the assessment part. You saying I'm dumb and I have an IQ lower than a snakes belly. I'm saying "Yes. You are right" Now what ? I've made my move. What yours ?

Copy/paste king strikes again!

https://www.quora.com/What-would-be-some-of-the-ways-to-close-or-lessen-racial-iq-gaps

That's not answering the question he asked.

 

[impuretrash]

Use your own words dude. Don't cut and paste some nonsense from some site or newspapers that reflects your POV and think that it's gonna fly with me.

Respond to what I say. That's how you debate

No. it's youj who doesn't know how to debate Essien.
one DOES debate using citations to prove his point.
I'm not interested in just exchanging opinions with a 70 IQ sub-Saharan.

That said, let me make it easy for you.
Blacks are less smart, and of course, score less well worldwide on tests (IQ/SAT/etc), yet get a Huge break on College admissions.

That's the theme here shown by both common sense AND citation, Untouched by your goofy YO-pinions.
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Call me intellectually inferior all day. I don't give a crap about that.

All I want to know from guys like you who are always running around trying to prove how stupid we blk people supposedly are is

What do you do with a race of people you claim are (On av) stupid ?

Let's get to the doing part. Not the assessment part. You saying I'm dumb and I have an IQ lower than a snakes belly. I'm saying "Yes. You are right" Now what ? I've made my move. What yours ?

Copy/paste king strikes again!

https://www.quora.com/What-would-be-some-of-the-ways-to-close-or-lessen-racial-iq-gaps

That's not answering the question he asked.

 

[IM2]

 

[abu afak]

Call me intellectually inferior all day. I don't give a crap about that.
All I want to know from guys like you who are always running around trying to prove how stupid we blk people supposedly are is\What do you do with a race of people you claim are (On av) stupid ?
Let's get to the doing part. Not the assessment part. You saying I'm dumb and I have an IQ lower than a snakes belly. I'm saying "Yes. You are right" Now what ? I've made my move. What yours ?
Because that's one thing I've noticed with all these guys who write the bell curve and debate about how stupid black people are. They never talk about what should done.

IOW, you have no rebuttal, and so have to Deflect/switch the burden on Me to ask what to do about my won point.
and you're clearly trying the old genocide/eugenics suggestion/implication.
YAWN.

Of course, I'm pointing out NE Asians have the highest IQ's, So why don't you ask me if I'm suggesing they get rid of whites?
Of course, I'm not suggesting that either.
I'm just asking for social justice/equality of opportunity/treatment, NOT automatic equality of outcome. (such as Quota admissions).

True, it might/Should also affect our immigration policy to favor, ie, (those MIT) NE Asians, over Haitians and Hondurans.
I want to let in those peoples' most likely to help us as a country.
So spare me your predictably juvenile/low-IQ suggestion of genocide/etc.

Just more demo of the problem.
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[Godboy]

IMO, the Asian culture, in general, is superior to the American culture--as we see in graduation/test scores
ooops--I'm white and American --can I say that??

Its true that asians put a huge emphasis on getting good grades, and it has served them fairly well, but at the end of the day i think white American culture has them beat. All the greatest inventions come from white culture, we are generally happier, and despite the fact that Chinas population outnumbers us by 5 times, we still produce more billionaires. One could, however, argue that jews are doing the best, but they are white too, even though its culture that makes or breaks a community, not race.

For the record, of the 2,208 billionaires on earth, only 10 are black. How embarrassing! Black culture sucks everywhere on earth that it exists.

 

[BulletProof]

Yet at Harvard, the last class admission was 14.7% Black, exactly 2% more than their population percentage!
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When I went to Harvard, the Asians were overflowing the place. At least from my perspective. The blacks are absurdly over-represented, buy they mostly hide (sticking together), like they're not there. Even if the blacks weren't hiding, the campus is still safe because there's an emergency call box ever few feet, lol.

 

[Unkotare]

IMO, the Asian culture, in general, is superior to the American culture--as we see in graduation/test scores
ooops--I'm white and American --can I say that??

Its true that asians put a huge emphasis on getting good grades, and it has served them fairly well, but at the end of the day i think white American culture has them beat. All the greatest inventions come from white culture, we are generally happier, and despite the fact that Chinas population outnumbers us by 5 times, we still produce more billionaires. One could, however, argue that jews are doing the best, but they are white too, even though its culture that makes or breaks a community, not race.

For the record, of the 2,208 billionaires on earth, only 10 are black. How embarrassing! Black culture sucks everywhere on earth that it exists.

Block-headed nonsense like this is why I hope the space aliens aren't watching. How fucking embarrassing.