koshergrl
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At least she did something. What did you do JoeB, besides sponge off working American taxpayers and whine about injustice from behind your keyboard?I'd be more impressed with what "Mother" Theresa had to say if she didn't fly off to the Mayo Clinic for her cancer while those poor Indian people died in misery on dirt floors in her "Hospital".
Only time I took money from the Taxpayers is when I was defending them in uniform.
And, no, all she really did was raise a charity with some very dodgy books.
But I'll leave it to the Great Christopher Hitchens to cut her down to size.
At least she did something. What did you do JoeB, besides sponge off working American taxpayers and whine about injustice from behind your keyboard?
Only time I took money from the Taxpayers is when I was defending them in uniform.
And, no, all she really did was raise a charity with some very dodgy books.
But I'll leave it to the Great Christopher Hitchens to cut her down to size.
which one of the village people were you?
At least she did something. What did you do JoeB, besides sponge off working American taxpayers and whine about injustice from behind your keyboard?
Only time I took money from the Taxpayers is when I was defending them in uniform.
And, no, all she really did was raise a charity with some very dodgy books.
But I'll leave it to the Great Christopher Hitchens to cut her down to size.
So let me see if I can wrap myself around your logic here. Helping people whenever you can and to your best ability is bad. If you can't go set up a Mayo Clinic why bother right? Set up a million dollar a day clinic or don't try at all is your solution.
But not everyone knows Karate either.
I hold the rank of Master in Kung Fu San Soo. It took me 30 years to reach that level.
I can teach a person to be proficient with a firearm in a single day.
At 6 feet away, the person with the firearm and a single day of training can easily defeat me.
Martial Arts are great fun, great exercise, and full of great people. But for self-defense, get a gun.
If you are dumb enough to stand dead still square on to someone at that range you deserve to get shot. But that isn't how it happens in real life scenarios. Moving targets are notoriously difficult to hit. Handguns are inaccurate because people in stressful situations aren't trained to use them properly. No way, no how are you going to teach anyone in a single day how to defend themselves with a gun under all circumstances. Cops want at least 20'+ between themselves and a perp in order to draw, aim and fire and they practice constantly. A gun in a handbag will take longer to draw and aim. A perp will be all over the victim from 6' away before she even gets her hand on the gun. This all happens in milliseconds in real life. Hollywood is not real life.
Seriously?
Ask any cop how long it takes to draw, aim and fire accurately and how far the perp has to be away from you for that to be an effective deterrent. Now let's take a look at a "date rape" situation and see how that is going to work in reality. Oh, and let's not forget that in most of these instances there is alcohol involved.
So we have someone who is not sober trying to reach her bag, pull out a gun and try to shoot someone at point blank range. Meanwhile the rapist will be trying to get the gun away from her. What are the odds he will get the gun away from her and then use it against her? What started as a rape is now a murder and the would be rapist can claim self defense because she pulled the gun on him.
Guns are not the solution to every problem.
I'm sorry. Did you just say that in most instances of rape, the woman is drunk?
I tell you what, honey. When it becomes as epidemic for MEN to be grabbed, have their pants pulled off in an alleyway, and then get raped up the ass, you feel free to defend yourself however you like. Until then, I don't recall asking you what the solution I choose to the epidemic that already affects ME should be.
Your apology is accepted for deliberately distorting what I actually posted.
Not according to the cops I know. They won't pull their own guns out unless there is sufficient time, space and an identifiable threat.
I don't recall an epidemic of people assaulting and raping cops, so I fail to see why it's relevant what they do or don't do. Talk about your apples and oranges comparisons.
More bizarre distortions and deflections!
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So let me see if I can wrap myself around your logic here. Helping people whenever you can and to your best ability is bad. If you can't go set up a Mayo Clinic why bother right? Set up a million dollar a day clinic or don't try at all is your solution.
I'm sorry. Did you just say that in most instances of rape, the woman is drunk?
I tell you what, honey. When it becomes as epidemic for MEN to be grabbed, have their pants pulled off in an alleyway, and then get raped up the ass, you feel free to defend yourself however you like. Until then, I don't recall asking you what the solution I choose to the epidemic that already affects ME should be.
Your apology is accepted for deliberately distorting what I actually posted.
Sorry, Sparky, but no. Not even a good try.
Here's what you said: Oh, and let's not forget that in most of these instances there is alcohol involved.
Now, please tell me how that's NOT saying that most women who get assaulted are drunk. Oh, wait, you're telling me that most RAPISTS are drunk, right? Is that it?
No, that can't be it, because you followed up with this: So we have someone who is not sober trying to reach her bag, pull out a gun and try to shoot someone at point blank range.
So SOMEONE around here is trying to deliberately distort what you said, and it ain't me.
And furthermore, don't you DARE try to take an apology for yourself out of ANYTHING I said. The only thing I'm sorry about is that I'm listening to a misogynistic rapist apologizer trying to justify keeping women as easy targets.
Perhaps Cecilie1200 might benefit from this thread!
http://www.usmessageboard.com/8505658-post1.html
So most women who are raped on dates are drunk and shouldn't bother to defend themselves?
Seriously?
So most women who are raped on dates are drunk and shouldn't bother to defend themselves?
Seriously?
Well if alcohol is involved to the extent that a person can't manage to protect herself from a rapist, then I do believe the implication is that the victim is drunk and therefore SHOULDN'T protect herself.
Cuz she might accidentally hurt herself. And we don't want THAT, so she needs to just lay back and get the rape over with.
What if her rapist takes the gun away from her and kills her? Or she only means to "defend" herself but the gun goes off and she shoots herself? Or she shoots and misses and the bullet hits someone else?
Guns and alcohol are a lethal combination. They are certainly not a deterrent to rape when they cannot be handled safely. Not even the NRA advocates mixing guns and alcohol.