Women need birth control because "they can't control their libido"

[koshergrl]

joe's only job is to promote killing babies and the abuse of women via abortion and hard core porn.

He hasn't worked in years. Nobody will hire him because he's a liar and a douchebag, as you can see from his posts. Nobody would want that pile of shit around their valuables, money, or in close proximity to people they even remotely care about.

 

[kaz]

If you believe that government money is confiscated, then you obviously do not believe in the U.S. Constitution. The Constitution gives the federal government the authority to tax, so it's money is not 'confiscated'. You are contradicting yourself.

The government certainly does have the constitutional authority to provide birth control, if it is considered to be in the interest of the "General Welfare" of the American people.

The American people have the right as individuals to their own religious beliefs. To many people taking birth control is exercising personal responsibility. That may not be your belief, but you do not have the authority to dictate your interpretation of 'responsibility' to other people.

Therefore the government may provide birth control to facilitate people exercising their personal responsibility if it is deemed to be in the interest of the "general Welfare' of the American people.

There are two differences between us. First, I'm not an angry little fem who lashes out with negative rep because I don't have the balls to express myself in words. Second, I do believe in the Constitution, which gives the government the right to tax for the general welfare only. That means that everyone benefits, like the police, the military, national parks. There is no Constitutional authority for the Feds to tax to take from one person and give to another. That is unethical, immoral and unconstitutional. It is the latter use of taxes I'm referring to.

Aw! I gave you a neg rep and you still crying about it. Did I hurt your wittle feewings? I'm so, so sowwy!

You do not believe in the U.S. Constitution. You obviously do not understand the U.S. Constitution, so you are not able to believe in it.

You seem to think that you can just make up anything about the U.S. Constitution, an ad hoc version of your very own...

To bad for you that the rest of America and the SCOTUS doesn't allow for your ad hoc dictates.

You were actually crying when you wrote this, weren't you? I'm sorry I made you cry, man. I get it now, obviously you can't defend yourself with words. Since you're without functioning male parts, you go with what you have, I get it now.

No matter how you spin it, Huck didn't say what you said. You're just blindly repeating the OP's strawman the thread is based on. If you ever do grow a pair and want to have an actual discussion about what Huckabee actually said, let me know. In the meantime, here's a hanky, go have another cry.

 

[kaz]

And you and I are free to give to charities to do that for that reason. Government has no moral authority to do it with confiscated money and no Constitutional authority to do it at all.

Freedom does not mean freedom from personal responsibility. In fact, it's lack of freedom that accomplishes that.

If you believe that government money is confiscated, then you obviously do not believe in the U.S. Constitution. The Constitution gives the federal government the authority to tax, so it's money is not 'confiscated'. You are contradicting yourself.

The government certainly does have the constitutional authority to provide birth control, if it is considered to be in the interest of the "General Welfare" of the American people.

The American people have the right as individuals to their own religious beliefs. To many people taking birth control is exercising personal responsibility. That may not be your belief, but you do not have the authority to dictate your interpretation of 'responsibility' to other people.

Therefore the government may provide birth control to facilitate people exercising their personal responsibility if it is deemed to be in the interest of the "general Welfare' of the American people.

Agreed: Furthermore--birth control pills are a prescription only drug. Insurers are and have been mandated for decades now to pay for them. As is the same for Viagra and all of the male enhancement prescription drugs that are advertised on television.

Now if men want to stop having sex with women--then we probably could get away from the birth control pill topic. But I don't see that happening anytime soon---

Because something is available by prescription doesn't man insurance is mandated to pay for it. If you're too cheap to spring for your date's birth control, why don't you just date women who chose policies that cover it instead of running to Uncle Obama and having him make them do it for you?

 

[mudwhistle]

You're confused. My party believes in letting women choose. Your party would have a raped woman bear the child of a rapist.....defend that.

republicans would prefer to allow a woman to arm and protect herself so she never has to go through the trauma of rape in the first place.

Seriously?

Ask any cop how long it takes to draw, aim and fire accurately and how far the perp has to be away from you for that to be an effective deterrent. Now let's take a look at a "date rape" situation and see how that is going to work in reality. Oh, and let's not forget that in most of these instances there is alcohol involved.

So we have someone who is not sober trying to reach her bag, pull out a gun and try to shoot someone at point blank range. Meanwhile the rapist will be trying to get the gun away from her. What are the odds he will get the gun away from her and then use it against her? What started as a rape is now a murder and the would be rapist can claim self defense because she pulled the gun on him.

Guns are not the solution to every problem.

No, but they can solve some issues before they get out of hand.

Besides, date-rape isn't usually life-threatening. A knee to the nuts usually works best.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Thinking women will find that if Huck said, "that he believes Democrats think that women cannot control their libido's", the women will say "what a fucking doofus, and he works for the GOP."

This is a lose lose for the GOP, period.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I don't know what's funnier,

that Huckabee said it, or that the inmates here don't think that normal women will be offended by it.

What's funny is that Huckabee didn't say it - and you are too stupid to even know this.

Remembers, democrats are filthy liars and demagogues by nature.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The figures released by Gallup were clear Abortion polls 2014: Do most Americans think most abortions should be illegal?

about 11% believe all abortions should be prohibited
about 14% only to save the life of the mother
about 28% only to save life of mother and in cases of rape and incest
about 20% legal for any reason and only within the first three months
about 10% legal for any reason and only within the first six months
about 12% legal for any reason and at any time during the pregnancy

so let's recap
11% believe in no abortion
12% believe in abortion on demand
78% believe in abortion with some sort of limitation

Far Left Obama Drone Propaganda

Uh, look at those numbers again, Sporky, 53% favor restrictions on abortion that preclude "I just feel like it."

Only 42% supported abortion on demand at any stage of the pregnancy.

 

[TemplarKormac]

The onus is now on you to prove that Huckabee is correct that the Dems are "evangelizing" to the women of America that "they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of the government.”

Please provide the exact "verses and hymnals" used by the Dems and explain exactly how they conflate the control of women's sex drive to government assistance. Given that you allege that this has been "loudly expressed" for the last "5+ years" you should be able to provide a wealth of them, right?

Ok then, why this?

Democrats draw criticism for platform supporting abortion without exceptions | Fox News

1. Nothing whatsoever to do with women's sex drive.

2. Deliberate obfuscation by the right. Nowhere did the Dems advocate overturning the existing restrictions imposed by RvW.

1. This was your request:

The onus is now on you to prove that Huckabee is correct that the Dems are "evangelizing" to the women of America that "they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of the government.”

Please provide the exact "verses and hymnals" used by the Dems and explain exactly how they conflate the control of women's sex drive to government assistance.

2. You asked for the "verses and hymnals" and I gave them to you. Maybe this will help:

The Democratic platform reads:

The President and the Democratic Party believe that women have a right to control their reproductive choices. Democrats support access to affordable family planning services, and President Obama and Democrats will continue to stand up to Republican efforts to defund Planned Parenthood health centers. The Affordable Care Act ensures that women have access to contraception in their health insurance plans, and the President has respected the principle of religious liberty. Democrats support evidence-based and age-appropriate sex education.

Protecting A Woman’s Right to Choose.

The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade and a woman’s right to make decisions regarding her pregnancy, including a safe and legal abortion, regardless of ability to pay. We oppose any and all efforts to weaken or undermine that right. Abortion is an intensely personal decision between a woman, her family, her doctor, and her clergy; there is no place for politicians or government to get in the way. We also recognize that health care and education help reduce the number of unintended pregnancies and thereby also reduce the need for abortions. We strongly and unequivocally support a woman’s decision to have a child by providing affordable health care and ensuring the availability of and access to programs that help women during pregnancy and after the birth of a child, including caring adoption programs.

Standing up for Women’s Rights Around the Globe

President Obama and the Democratic Party are committed to supporting family planning around the globe to help women care for their families, support their communities, and lead their countries to be healthier and more productive. (author's note, this is where the argument that federal money doesn't go to fund abortions falls flat on it's face)That’s why, in his first month in office, President Obama overturned the “global gag rule,” a ban on federal funds to foreign family planning organizations that provided information about, counseling on, or offered abortions. And that is why the administration has supported lifesaving family planning health information and services.

If you want further proof, you can look no further than the 2008 and 2012 DNC where the head of NARAL Nancy Keenan was allowed to speak, Cecile Richards President and CEO of Planned Parenthood, with Sandra Fluke. It rejected any attempt by pro life Democrats to speak at the convention. It was an ode to abortion. Like a Pastor and his congregation...

Will the Dem convention be Abortion-palooza? « Hot Air

 

[TemplarKormac]

Having a gun doesn't mean you will necessarily be able to defend yourself.

Not having a gun DOES mean you will not be able to defend yourself.

Noomi doesn't need a gun to defend herself.

But not everyone knows Karate either.

 

[Uncensored2008]

But not everyone knows Karate either.

I hold the rank of Master in Kung Fu San Soo. It took me 30 years to reach that level.

I can teach a person to be proficient with a firearm in a single day.

At 6 feet away, the person with the firearm and a single day of training can easily defeat me.

Martial Arts are great fun, great exercise, and full of great people. But for self-defense, get a gun.

 

[Ava]

But not everyone knows Karate either.

I hold the rank of Master in Kung Fu San Soo. It took me 30 years to reach that level.

I can teach a person to be proficient with a firearm in a single day.

At 6 feet away, the person with the firearm and a single day of training can easily defeat me.

Martial Arts are great fun, great exercise, and full of great people. But for self-defense, get a gun.

Wow...I knew you were masterful...just knew it... Thanks for sharing all that. Loved it.

My all-time fave for Martial Arts, even though I know others were considered better, this is the one that rocks my boat in anything, back in the day.

 

[Spoonman]

I don't know what's funnier,

that Huckabee said it, or that the inmates here don't think that normal women will be offended by it.

What's funny is that Huckabee didn't say it - and you are too stupid to even know this.

Remembers, democrats are filthy liars and demagogues by nature.

what cracks me up is they post a link to what he said, and then what the say he said was not in the link at all. its all their spin

 

[Spoonman]

Not having a gun DOES mean you will not be able to defend yourself.

Noomi doesn't need a gun to defend herself.

But not everyone knows Karate either.

I have black belts in judo, akido and tae. I haven't practiced any of them in years. I wouldn't trust my skills to defend myself. I want the best advantage I can get.

 

[mudwhistle]

But not everyone knows Karate either.

I hold the rank of Master in Kung Fu San Soo. It took me 30 years to reach that level.

I can teach a person to be proficient with a firearm in a single day.

At 6 feet away, the person with the firearm and a single day of training can easily defeat me.

Martial Arts are great fun, great exercise, and full of great people. But for self-defense, get a gun.

Chinese boxing isn't as good as Mexican Kung Fu or Judon't know who you messin with Homes.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The figures released by Gallup were clear Abortion polls 2014: Do most Americans think most abortions should be illegal?

about 11% believe all abortions should be prohibited
about 14% only to save the life of the mother
about 28% only to save life of mother and in cases of rape and incest
about 20% legal for any reason and only within the first three months
about 10% legal for any reason and only within the first six months
about 12% legal for any reason and at any time during the pregnancy

so let's recap
11% believe in no abortion
12% believe in abortion on demand
78% believe in abortion with some sort of limitation

Far Left Obama Drone Propaganda

Uh, look at those numbers again, Sporky, 53% favor restrictions on abortion that preclude "I just feel like it."

Only 42% supported abortion on demand at any stage of the pregnancy.

Which is less important than "78% believe in abortion with some sort of limitation"

 

[TemplarKormac]

Far Left Obama Drone Propaganda

Uh, look at those numbers again, Sporky, 53% favor restrictions on abortion that preclude "I just feel like it."

Only 42% supported abortion on demand at any stage of the pregnancy.

Which is less important than "78% believe in abortion with some sort of limitation"

Your assertions, my friend, are less important than the facts. Willpower alone does not win arguments.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Noomi doesn't need a gun to defend herself.

But not everyone knows Karate either.

I have black belts in judo, akido and tae. I haven't practiced any of them in years. I wouldn't trust my skills to defend myself. I want the best advantage I can get.

Indeed.

Keep Calm and Carry On my friend!

 

[Uncensored2008]

I have black belts in judo, akido and tae. I haven't practiced any of them in years. I wouldn't trust my skills to defend myself. I want the best advantage I can get.

In the studio, we do an exercise with a cap gun where we try and disarm the person with the gun. IF the person is 6 or more feet away, it is virtually impossible to disarm them before they fire.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Chinese boxing isn't as good as Mexican Kung Fu or Judon't know who you messin with Homes.

Trivia for the day; "Kungfutsu" translates to "Confucius." Kung Fu simply means "master of." On can be "Kung Fu" at fishing.

San Soo is the art, but significantly different than Long Fist (Chinese Boxing.) It's a conglomerate of the five Shoalin forms.

 

[koshergrl]

I learned everything I know about kung fu from Kung Fu Panda:

"Mr. Ping: The secret ingredient is... nothing!
Po: Huh?
Mr. Ping: You heard me. Nothing! There is no secret ingredient.
Po: Wait, wait... it's just plain old noodle soup? You don't add some kind of special sauce or something?
Mr. Ping: Don't have to. To make something special you just have to believe it's special.
[Po looks at the scroll again, and sees his reflection in it]
Po: There is no secret ingredient... "

Kung Fu Panda (2008) - Quotes - IMDb

The pasty is history, the future a mystery...today is a gift, that's why it's called the PRESENT!
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