workplace mass shooting...convicted felon...did he pass a background check?

[2aguy]

Yep....as the research shows...most gun murderers have prior criminal records....and histories of violence.......and this guy is no exception....

so...as a multiple felon...how did he get those guns? did he go through a background check? since he is a felon he would not have to register his illegally owned guns according to Supreme Court decision.....Haynes v. United States......

does he have a carry permit for his illegal guns.....?


And the one question......is this place of business a gun free zone?

Excel Industries shooter identified as Cedric Ford

Multiple eyewitnesses and employees at Excel Industries identify the shooter as Cedric Ford, 38, an employee at the company in Hesston. Ford lived in Newton.

According to Florida court documents, he was charged with multiple crimes in his history, including burglary, grand theft, fleeing and eluding and other charges dating back to 1996. Ford was also booked in Sedgwick County in 2008. Eyewitness News has not confirmed the charges in the Sedgwick Coun

Most gun murders are committed by people with criminal records but most mass shootings are not.

Except for this one.....

And murder is committed by people who are not normal....so banning guns from normal people will do nothing to stop mass shootings or gun crime in general.

Taking all the guns away stops much of this, but that will never happen. That is why many feel forced to own and carry guns, yet most do not. I have never owned a gun but I do work in some shady places at times and I have thought about possibly carrying, but I likely will not.

sorry...that isn't a true statement.......in2013 there were over 11.1 million people with permits to carry guns....and the gun crime rate went down...including the gun murder rate.....

In 2014 there were over 13 million people carrying guns for self defense...and the gun crime and gun murder rate went down......


Can you explain why your post is wrong?

If "all" guns are removed, then no guns can be used against anyone. The point is that all guns must be removed, not just some of them. The reason gun control laws don't work is because banning guns in one jurisdiction does not get rid of guns when you can purchase them right across a state line or outside of a given city that may try to invoke gun restrictions.

So how do you remove them from the police and military...if you could completely disarm law abiding people who dont' use them to commit crimes?

France has all the gun control you anti gunners want....and their criminals get guns easily....and they prefer to use fully automatic rifles.......dittos around the world...even in Japan...their criminals get guns and grenades when they want them....

And do you realize that there was a period of time in human history when guns did not exist..at all......

Do you know what the world was like then...the strong raped, robbed and enslaved the weak...because all of the weapons required strength to use...so the strong conquered the weak.

It wasn't until guns arrived on the scene that the weak were able to free themselves......that is really why slavery ended....

And if you paid attention you would realize that the only way mass murder, genocide and ethnic cleansing work is when they are done to people who don't have guns to stop it.....

Europe got rid of guns for their civilians....and in the 1940s they marched 12 million people into gas chambers...unarmed people...men, women and children.........it took guns to stop it.

Mexico.....the Mexican government and the drug cartels are murdering thousands of unarmed Mexican citizens....so many that they have brought back ovens to dispose of the bodies....do you pay attention to what is going on down there.....

And the countries with absolute gun control....often have the highest gun murder rates....because the governemnt and crimnials have the guns and murder the innocent people who don't have guns.

Guns are not the problem........that you anti gunners focus on guns and not the people doing the killing is the problem.

 

[2aguy]

If "all" guns are removed, then no guns can be used against anyone. The point is that all guns must be removed, not just some of them

While I appreciate your sincere desire to stop the relentless number of shootings, guns are here to stay.

You must protect your loved ones the best way you can. And hope and pray that the next mass shooting doesn't involve you or yours.

Death by gun is just something you need to learn to accept. More importantly, you have to accept random death by gun as just part of living in America.

But if there were 400 million guns in America things would be so much better. According to guns nutters like 2nd A.

And you are still a twit.......

with 357 million guns in private hands there were less than 8,124 used to commit gun murder.....and of those murders almost all of them were done by violent career criminals...who cannot legally own or carry guns,....murdering other career criminals....

And with those guns Americans used them to stop violent criminal attack and save lives 1,500,000 times a year...according to bill clinton and barak obama........

And please, genius....explain how it is that in 2013, there were over 11.1 million people actually carrying guns for self defense....and the gun murder rate went down......

And in 2014, there were 13 million people actually carrying guns for self defense...and the gun murder rate went down.....

Please explain that since it shows you don't know what you are talking about?

 

[2aguy]

Yep....as the research shows...most gun murderers have prior criminal records....and histories of violence.......and this guy is no exception....

so...as a multiple felon...how did he get those guns? did he go through a background check? since he is a felon he would not have to register his illegally owned guns according to Supreme Court decision.....Haynes v. United States......

does he have a carry permit for his illegal guns.....?


And the one question......is this place of business a gun free zone?

Excel Industries shooter identified as Cedric Ford

Multiple eyewitnesses and employees at Excel Industries identify the shooter as Cedric Ford, 38, an employee at the company in Hesston. Ford lived in Newton.

According to Florida court documents, he was charged with multiple crimes in his history, including burglary, grand theft, fleeing and eluding and other charges dating back to 1996. Ford was also booked in Sedgwick County in 2008. Eyewitness News has not confirmed the charges in the Sedgwick Coun

Most gun murders are committed by people with criminal records but most mass shootings are not.

Except for this one.....

And murder is committed by people who are not normal....so banning guns from normal people will do nothing to stop mass shootings or gun crime in general.

Taking all the guns away stops much of this, but that will never happen. That is why many feel forced to own and carry guns, yet most do not. I have never owned a gun but I do work in some shady places at times and I have thought about possibly carrying, but I likely will not.

sorry...that isn't a true statement.......in2013 there were over 11.1 million people with permits to carry guns....and the gun crime rate went down...including the gun murder rate.....

In 2014 there were over 13 million people carrying guns for self defense...and the gun crime and gun murder rate went down......


Can you explain why your post is wrong?

If "all" guns are removed, then no guns can be used against anyone. The point is that all guns must be removed, not just some of them. The reason gun control laws don't work is because banning guns in one jurisdiction does not get rid of guns when you can purchase them right across a state line or outside of a given city that may try to invoke gun restrictions.

And then you should explain why cities with the strictest gun control laws...like Chicago...have higher gun murder rates than cities that actually allow gun stores in their jurisdictions......and have higher numbers of normal people actually carrying guns for self defense.....

You are focusing on the guns......you need to focus on the criminals and why they pull the trigger so often....

In Europe...their criminals get guns easily....they prefer fully automatic rifles......and grenades....but what makes them different? They don't murder each other as often as our criminals do......

Find out why our thugs shoot each other more often...and then you can start solving the gun murder issue here.

 

[1stRambo]

But we need more guns on the street, yessirree........... more guns on the street. Then we can have these things every day, instead of just twice a week.

It is the American Way.....now.

Yo, I agree with you, we can thank the ""Dictator Obama"" and his ""Crooked Administration"" for releasing thugs from jail!!!!!

"GTP"